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My last and most important tip:

This process will very, very quickly out people who are abusers and bullies at heart. Who love the hating part of being fash. They deep-down consider themselves superior, and wet their pantaloons over imagining the horrors that are happening and will continue to happen. You will have few, if any, values in common with such a person. And they cannot be changed.

My guess is (and some studies show) that about 1 in 10 people fall somewhere in this category. Asking questions is the best way to discover who they are.

And when they tell you who they are, listen.

Aside from your own scientific curiosity about what makes such people tick, there is absolutely no productive discussion that can come from continuing to speak with a person like this. You will only hurt yourself and whoever is in earshot.

So if you get to this point? Stop. Eat more stuffing and talk about sportsball.

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Remember, you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. These are not academic debates among people who have agreed on certain epistemological rules. This is the realm of rhetoric and persuasion, an area we on the scientific left have neglected because it's "irrational," and thus ceded entire territories because we're not willing to be humble and meet people on their own turf. This is some western white colonizer shite that I'm in the process of unpacking myself.

You're not committing a logical fallacy by talking about feelings. We are feeling creatures.

You're not being unreasonable by trying to understand what feels to you an unreasonable position. You are connecting to another human for the purpose of communication.

You aren't winning points on a scoreboard! Congratulations! In the contest of being the most correct and in alignment with reality, you won years ago! Now stop waving your prize in front of everyone and learn to humanize – not just them, but yourself and every marginalized person you are trying to protect.

But neither is this process about excusing fash behavior or prioritizing fragile privileged feelings above the realities of those marginalized! You're not letting anyone off the hook. In fact, you're putting the person on the hook in a way that allows them to confront their own internal world.

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Example Questions Part 3:

Could there be a good reason for that?

Do you know the context of why it was decided that way?

How does that work exactly? Walk me through it.

What would happen if....

How many [queer, PoC, those affected by a certain policy, etc] people do you know / have you talked to / have you heard out about this topic that affects them?

What do you really know about that worldview from the perspective of people who hold it?

Can you explain to me what you think that worldview is?

Can you explain to me the reasons people might believe that?

Why are you afraid of [n]?

Do you think [n] should be illegal?

What’s the difference between ____?

How do you reconcile [stated value] with [stated position that is apparently in conflict]?

Do you believe that everyone should have to earn or prove their right to exist? (If no, then explore how various practices and normal realities of this society require earning or proving a right to exist.)

Can all people be said to be free if some are not free?

Do you think your freedom should come at the cost of someone else's freedom?

Do you think your comfort should come at the cost of someone else's comfort?

Why do you think some people think that's racist?

Do you think that's fair?

Why do you think that's far?

What do you mean by that?

Can you expound?

What are your reasons for believing that?

What would you like to know about my worldview? (If they don't want to know anything, ask them, why not?)

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Example Questions Part 2:

What is truth?

How do you know what is true?

Why do you trust [n] information source?

Why do you distrust opposing information sources?

[Questions that get at the root of trust are great at destabilizing trust in bad actors. P.S. It is morally ok to mistrust someone!]

Do you think your sources might be keeping information away from you that would change your mind?

Why do you need that to be true?

How would you know if you are wrong?

What would happen if you are wrong? How would that feel? How would you cope with that?

What evidence would convince you that your conclusions are incorrect?

What do you think might convince me of your position?

If you were being manipulated, how would you know?

What makes you different from people who are being manipulated? Why would you know and they wouldn’t?

How do you define "manipulation"? How does it work?

Do you feel like you've worked hard and did everything right and now you're not getting what you were promised?

Where is the line for deciding [n – who deserves a safety net, what the optimal rate of taxation is, punishment for a specific crime, who gets to immigrate, what someone's gender is, etc]?

Who should decide [n] and why?

...for who? (Safe for who? Good for who? Profitable for who? Efficient for who?)

Who benefits the most from that?

How do you benefit from this situation/policy/value/talking point?

What's in it for them?

Who do you think is incentivized to be behind [n]?

What does that rule incentivize?

What outcome would you like to see?

By what standards will you measure the outcome?

When [historical law passed or action taken] happened, what did you think the outcome would be? Did that come to pass?

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Example Questions Part 1:

These questions are just a guide. In the discussion, you will adapt them or think of your own most appropriate to the direction of the conversation.

The biggest question for *yourself* is: What would make this person believe that?

That's you fostering YOUR OWN curiosity and you trying to solve YOUR dissonance over your loved one's difficult stance.

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When in doubt, channel your inner toddler and ask "Why?"

Ask for their definitions of basic concepts or values they’ve expressed.

What is your definition of:
Fairness?
Freedom?
Love?
Kindness?
Equality?
Rationality?
Justice?
Rights?
Power?
Good?
Evil?
Morality?
Responsibility?
etc.

What is the role or purpose of:
Taxes?
Laws?
Regulations?
Investment?
Property?
Infrastructure?
Conflict of interest?
Safety nets?
Police?
Public health?
etc.

What would you say your top 5 standards/values are for deciding your political positions?

What are the benefits of [thing they disagree with]?

What are some downsides of [thing they agree with]?

Could those benefits be accomplished another way, without the downsides?

Do you think most people are [trait – smart, good or evil, responsible, etc]?

Why would someone do something like [a bad behavior they have described]?

What would you do in their situation?

Do you think nothing like that could happen to you? Why?

Do you think everyone in a bad situation deserves it? What percentage?

I assume most people are smart or act reasonably within their own experience. Why would a smart person make a stupid decision like that?

Why do you think you know more about how to solve their problems than the people who are in the situation?

Why do you think they're mad?

When did you first learn that? Who taught that to you? How old were you? Have you revisited those assumptions?

What is truth?

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Tips Part 2:

If they become defensive, you have stepped into their "psychological inoculation" or a conditioned reaction against that line of thinking. Defensiveness is a cognitive dissonance reaction, a sign to STOP that approach and try something new. If you find yourself "arguing" or feeling anxious or upset, it is time to change directions, take a break, or stop for now.

Follow up questions with more questions, like the question game. "What do you mean by...?" You can make statements or clarify your own position, but try to stick with questions and give them as much of the floor as possible.

It's counterintuitive, but questions put you in control of the flow of discussion, even though they will do most of the speaking. If they're answering, they're THINKING. This is 1000x better than preaching.

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Tips Part 1:

You have the right to consent to a conversation, and thus, to the direction of the conversation.

Questions let you direct the discussion. You do not need to follow their obvious line of argument or jump to the obvious rebuttal. Manipulators in society have control of the larger "conversation," so pick a different path than what is expected!

Foster a genuine sense of curiosity in yourself so that the questions feel (and are) sincere. Remember that you are on "their side" as a person rather than against them as an ideological opponent.

Avoid "gotchas" and the sweet consonance of "being right." Eventually, contradictions will arise, but do not gloat, and use questions (like "How do you reconcile [x] with [y]?" or "How does that fit with what you said earlier about [z]?") to get them to see it themselves rather than an epic mic-drop.

Be sure to express when you agree with part or all of their answers. This builds bonds, reduces antagonism (us vs them), helps pinpoint specifically where the disagreement is, and most importantly, gives them the emotional reward of cognitive consonance for finding common ground with you.

Dig beyond surface-level conclusions, and instead go deep, to the fundamentals that underlie their thinking. The process will help bypass their unquestioned assumptions, circumvent their defenses, and help them make new connections and explore aspects of their position they have never thought about before.

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Given the upcoming US holiday, I'm going to boost some of my old threads on the topic of political discussions with those you disagree.

Remember, stay curious, ask questions, and stick to core values!

And I'm going to create a new thread here with some unpublished tips and example questions! These will range through both political and religious [mostly political], but they will give you an idea of what provokes thought and productive discussion.

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Poking fun at "Perfectionism," as in "Loool those religious nuts are sure not perfect!" is not the easy win you think it is.

I've gotten this type of flippant comment a few times recently when I've been trying to address serious topics to help religiously conditioned folks unpack bigotry (which requires some level of safety).

First off, victims of mind control are abuse victims who have been traumatized. Fine to criticize the harmful ways cult victims act, but our programming runs deep and hurts us too.

Perfectionism is a long-standing school of religious philosophy embedded in American culture, even in secular and corporate American culture.

Outside of very specific situations (engineering, concert piano, competition), "perfection" cannot really be defined, so it is an insidiously high standard that can never be achieved. It is a high-demand religious (and corporate) manipulation tool, and also one used by domestic abusers, to justify punishment and to continually move the goalposts, creating a sense of "perpetual inadequacy" in its targets.

Very not fun.

There are studies on how toxic and damaging perfectionism, as a lifestyle, can be. For those of us recovering from toxic perfectionism, it has caused us serious emotional, mental, and physical health issues, and is incredibly difficult to overcome.

For those of us who were programmed with this pressure as guide to the very way of living life, for which the consequences of failure were rejection for eternity by our families and God, the "lol lol they sure aren't perfect" line is punching down. Honestly, in a triggering way.

Instead, punch up at the bastards who made us believe in this crap. They're the true benefactors, and the true cause of this kind of thinking on such a large and deep scale.

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This is going to be a very, very horrible and lethal timeline/reality to just be a mundane human without any occult or esoteric knowledge or psychic and magical abilities in. Considering the rate of survival for “normal” people, I do not envy them. My husband and I are very sensitive to magical and psychic energy. For my husband, it boosts his divinatory and precognitive abilities. He will suddenly start having visions and will develop an interest in refining his astrological skills. For me, it makes me very hungry as a vampire and dark. If you are a regular human, you are pretty much screwed. If there is a nuclear war, and you are a regular human, you will probably die.

I think that’s how magical skills and psychic abilities will probably spread. I think it will spread through natural selection following a nuclear war. That’s why I think magical organizations trying to make the world more magical through their magical operations being horrified that we are teetering on the collapse of civilization shows how asinine and short-sighted their goals were. Evolution works through survivorship.

It’s conventionally asserted and believed that magic shifts probabilities. Shifting probabilities, even on small scales, changes the stochastic aspects of radiation. The number and energy of radiation particles detected at a given location and time fluctuate randomly due to various environmental factors. In addition to that, when radiation interacts with matter, such as in scattering or absorption processes, the outcomes are probabilistic. That means that a magician who has a latent ability to shift probabilities and the implicit desire to live will shift probabilities so that high-energy radioactive particles are unlikely to hit and shred their genetic and cellular physiology. A really neat way to visualize this is to create a DIY cloud chamber and record it and have it in the vicinity whenever you do any magical operation. If your magic has a bit of power, it will interfere with the background radiation via changing the ionization energy of what you see in the cloud chamber. You will be able to see it.

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I try to keep the woo down and avoid using buzzwords as buzzwords. A field is a structured set. In mathematics, a set is a collection of distinct objects, considered as an entity. A field is a structured set. A structured set refers to a set equipped with additional elements or operations that give it a specific organization or arrangement. So, we can say that a psychic field is an organized collection of entities that possess subjective characteristics, i.e., qualia. The properties in the topology of that field would have values.

If we say that each property or cell of that field is at equilibrium, then a wave is when one cell is not at equilibrium and propagates a change. It spreads a change to the other adjacent cells that push them out of equilibrium. If you have a grid and all the values are 0, a wave would be a change in values from the first row and first column from left to right. It would wrap around each row and changes the values from 0 to a different value, too. That is a wave. The ability for one psychic entity to propagate a wave of change to another is the potential energy, i.e., dunamis, and the actual changing of those other things is energia. There are analogs to potential and kinetic energy on a psychic level.

While it may seem like I am some flavor of animist, I am on the fence about that. I frequently say that will is analogous to mass in that mass is a property that resists acceleration. Will is a phenomenological property that when you try to get someone to do something, their will intervenes and resists you. Consent is a property where a person’s will does not act to stop you. When someone explicitly violates a person’s consent, they are acting against the will of that person. Psychic phenomena imply a more fundamental, higher-dimensional phenomenological domain. From that perspective, a table has a psychic aspect to it where it can experience and observe itself. But, when I act on that table, the table cannot resist me. It has no will. Conscious entities have a will. An entity that is a body of experiences is not necessarily conscious and doesn’t necessarily have a will. It’s still energy to be ordered, where it begins to have a will when it interacts with my will. It would be analogous to massless energy — light. So, manipulating psychic energy that comes from the existence of tables and rocks would be like manipulating light. It has psychic energy that emerges from a subjective characteristic of experience where the rock reflexively perceives itself, yet it has no will. Mythologies, stories, and fictions are ways that we can organize this energy, where the seed of its emergence as a conscious entity comes from collective will.

Earth has an atmosphere of gas around our planet. Psychic fields are coherent and cohesive in the same way gas or liquid is. Similar to how there is a flow to liquids and air currents, there is a flow to our consciousness. In the same way this gas can heat up in such a way that it drives air currents and streams and creates storms and all sorts of other meteorological phenomena, energy added to the psychic atmosphere of our planet can do similar things. Because my husband and I are highly sensitive to this, we experience an increase in our abilities and an alignment of our personality traits in certain ways. There’s a huge psychic storm building up. I wonder if it is cyclical. Something similar happened a few years ago, so I wonder if the cyclical spiral society finds itself in beneath the heavens is being mirrored above in the heavens.

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We really need to stop calling obvious schizophrenia, manic delusions, and psychosis ‘unverified personal gnosis.’ A person whom I knew 15 years ago has persistent beliefs, regardless of facts, that they knew me in a past life and we made some pact to alter the future to save the world from Nazis. It’s insane, but everyone in the occult Discord is nodding their heads and validating it.

A delusion is a persistent belief regardless of facts. This person has dreams and hallucinations that they believe are gods, spirits, and telepathy. In these hallucinations and delusions, the spirits tell them who random strangers were in a past life. A lot of these delusions are obviously paranoid and inevitably roll into a conspiracy theory about Nazis. This is very terrifying. This means, based on a random occurrence with a person, they will create a parasocial narrative that manifests as them knowing this person.

Most schizophrenia delusions emerge from noise and thus have no actual information. You can uncover that it is a delusion by asking the person for details. For example, if they make a claim about remembering a past life in Egypt, you can do the equivalent of asking them who the President of the United States is now. I did that with this person. They were claiming to have known me and other people in a past life in Egypt 3000 years ago, so I looked up what was going on around that time. I asked them who the high priest was, who the pharaoh was, and what they remember happening around that time. All of it was wrong.

That caused most of that Discord to jump all over me and imply that it was fine because it was their personal gnosis. To be clear, this person is creating parasocial relationships and narratives based on delusional narratives that they are applying to random people they meet.

Phrasing things as they happened in a different reality or a past life is a way to avoid the falsification of and is a way to rationalize the delusion. Claiming that you knew a person in a past life is a way to justify the parasocial relationship. It is not unverified personal gnosis. It’s mental illness. There is nothing magical about mental illness. If I had a nickel for every time a schizophrenic occultist spun up a delusional narrative to justify an adversarial parasocial relationship with me, I’d be rich. This is a major problem.

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