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  1. [Edit*]An older but ever-relevant of ICSA Today with articles on recovering from sexual abuse in cults, how to communicate with loved ones inside cults, the spread of conspiracy theories in France, and multi-generational cult survivors.

    library.internationalculticstu

    [The issue is from 2021, but they emailed around an article from it recently.]

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #ICSA

  2. [Edit*]An older but ever-relevant of ICSA Today with articles on recovering from sexual abuse in cults, how to communicate with loved ones inside cults, the spread of conspiracy theories in France, and multi-generational cult survivors.

    library.internationalculticstu

    [The issue is from 2021, but they emailed around an article from it recently.]

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #ICSA

  3. [Edit*]An older but ever-relevant of ICSA Today with articles on recovering from sexual abuse in cults, how to communicate with loved ones inside cults, the spread of conspiracy theories in France, and multi-generational cult survivors.

    library.internationalculticstu

    [The issue is from 2021, but they emailed around an article from it recently.]

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #ICSA

  4. [Edit*]An older but ever-relevant of ICSA Today with articles on recovering from sexual abuse in cults, how to communicate with loved ones inside cults, the spread of conspiracy theories in France, and multi-generational cult survivors.

    library.internationalculticstu

    [The issue is from 2021, but they emailed around an article from it recently.]

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #ICSA

  5. [Edit*]An older but ever-relevant of ICSA Today with articles on recovering from sexual abuse in cults, how to communicate with loved ones inside cults, the spread of conspiracy theories in France, and multi-generational cult survivors.

    library.internationalculticstu

    [The issue is from 2021, but they emailed around an article from it recently.]

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #ICSA

  6. The ICSA has a journal article about how career counseling can help protect vulnerable kids from trafficking and cults.

    Surprise! Poverty increases risk. Having a solid sense of identity helps prevent risk.

    Abstract: 'Human trafficking is a rapidly expanding global criminal industry that frequently targets children and adolescents by preying on their vulnerabilities. This article presents research identifying seven categories of susceptibility in Generation Z, with a specific focus on how poverty and low personal achievement increase the risk of being trafficked. The authors propose that career counseling can serve as a vital preventive measure by building self-sufficiency, motivation, and a long-term “career self-concept” that helps youth reject the immediate gratification offered by predators.'

    (Sorry, it's Substack.)

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/could

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  7. The ICSA has a journal article about how career counseling can help protect vulnerable kids from trafficking and cults.

    Surprise! Poverty increases risk. Having a solid sense of identity helps prevent risk.

    Abstract: 'Human trafficking is a rapidly expanding global criminal industry that frequently targets children and adolescents by preying on their vulnerabilities. This article presents research identifying seven categories of susceptibility in Generation Z, with a specific focus on how poverty and low personal achievement increase the risk of being trafficked. The authors propose that career counseling can serve as a vital preventive measure by building self-sufficiency, motivation, and a long-term “career self-concept” that helps youth reject the immediate gratification offered by predators.'

    (Sorry, it's Substack.)

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/could

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  8. The ICSA has a journal article about how career counseling can help protect vulnerable kids from trafficking and cults.

    Surprise! Poverty increases risk. Having a solid sense of identity helps prevent risk.

    Abstract: 'Human trafficking is a rapidly expanding global criminal industry that frequently targets children and adolescents by preying on their vulnerabilities. This article presents research identifying seven categories of susceptibility in Generation Z, with a specific focus on how poverty and low personal achievement increase the risk of being trafficked. The authors propose that career counseling can serve as a vital preventive measure by building self-sufficiency, motivation, and a long-term “career self-concept” that helps youth reject the immediate gratification offered by predators.'

    (Sorry, it's Substack.)

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/could

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  9. The ICSA has a journal article about how career counseling can help protect vulnerable kids from trafficking and cults.

    Surprise! Poverty increases risk. Having a solid sense of identity helps prevent risk.

    Abstract: 'Human trafficking is a rapidly expanding global criminal industry that frequently targets children and adolescents by preying on their vulnerabilities. This article presents research identifying seven categories of susceptibility in Generation Z, with a specific focus on how poverty and low personal achievement increase the risk of being trafficked. The authors propose that career counseling can serve as a vital preventive measure by building self-sufficiency, motivation, and a long-term “career self-concept” that helps youth reject the immediate gratification offered by predators.'

    (Sorry, it's Substack.)

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/could

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  10. The ICSA has a journal article about how career counseling can help protect vulnerable kids from trafficking and cults.

    Surprise! Poverty increases risk. Having a solid sense of identity helps prevent risk.

    Abstract: 'Human trafficking is a rapidly expanding global criminal industry that frequently targets children and adolescents by preying on their vulnerabilities. This article presents research identifying seven categories of susceptibility in Generation Z, with a specific focus on how poverty and low personal achievement increase the risk of being trafficked. The authors propose that career counseling can serve as a vital preventive measure by building self-sufficiency, motivation, and a long-term “career self-concept” that helps youth reject the immediate gratification offered by predators.'

    (Sorry, it's Substack.)

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/could

    #ReligiousTrauma #cult #cults #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  11. Christianity primed white people to feel guilty when certain Pavlovian bells ring.

    Accused? Wrongdoing even subtly implied? Guilt! Shame!

    Then, if it's a respected authority doing the implying (be it parent or priest), we're primed to submit.

    If we don't respect the authority of the "accuser," well, were primed to see them as the enemy in the all-or-nothing good vs evil war. "My authorities haven't called that a sin so who is this person anyway??" And we lash out. At women, POC, queers, disabled, and often, even ourselves.

    What, you're white but never were Christian? Sorry, but you were programmed this way, too. (If you feel mad at me, that's the programming.)

    Christianity's way out from guilt and shame is impossible. It doesn't work. It's designed to make you feel forever ashamed and in debt to Jesus — or rather, the religious authorities who represent him. That's how they get you.

    We aren't allowed to emotionally mature to know how to handle our own feelings when we've done wrong. We're forever dependent children on the religion. We go to confession, do the penitence, feel a few days of relief, then go back to feeling guilty. No matter how well-meaning any particular clergy, this is by design.

    Now suddenly here's these people I don't respect out of unexamined implicit bias dumping more crap on me.

    Aren't I bad enough? Haven't I submitted enough? What am I supposed to do about it?

    I'm hamstringed. My white brain has been lobotomized wrt how to handle this. But also, I've been told by trusted authorities that I'm not a racist, so I'm not!!! Out comes the Karen.

    Colonialism=Christianity=Corporatism

    It's all the same system.

    Freeing ourselves from this system means freeing those whose oppression we enable.

    Because it's all the same thing.

    #AbuseCulture #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #antiracism #antifa

  12. In Mormon news, BYU tried to make an indigenous student cut his braids. So fuck them.

    Thankfully, they responded to pushback and now will not make him do that, but I'm sure they will continue to get away with all of their other attempts to control the hairstyles and harmless behaviors of literally everyone else.

    (Which is why this issue is a "white" cause as much as it is anyone else's. My Celtic and Germanic ancestors wore long hair in all sorts of styles, and so did yours. Whiteness restricts all of our freedoms.)

    #exmo #exmormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical #antiracism #deconstruction #BYU #LDS #Mormon

  13. I'm watching a horror movie in a purity culture setting called Pure. It's fairly good, really liking how they're handling the themes. I feel like it's personal for the director, who's a woman.

    It's not a perfect movie. Feels like the director doesn't have much experience with the horror genre. But there's strong talent, just a little raw on the skills, small things that would have made it better.

    I still haven't seen the ending. There are some ways I want this to go, and some ways I really hope it doesn't go.

    (Previous twoot is not a direct quote, but sums up a speech the pastor is giving.)

    [edit: ok that ending was super powerful. We need what happened there to become a recurring motif.]

    [Director is Hannah McPherson. She didn't experience purity culture, but is real mad about it. deadline.com/2019/09/pure-dire ]

    #movieReview #horror #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #feminism

  14. CW: SA within cult contexts, Epstein, Rome

    Further, I recently watched bible scholar Dan McClellan talk about homosexuality in biblical times. It' a subject I have seen him and others talk about before, and I've read about it. (But I am not an expert on ancient history – I'm just repeating.)

    Fact: In Roman society and before, when Leviticus was being written, they didn't have any concept of "sexual orientation" the way we do today. They didn't have the concept of consent. They centered sexual mores around the hierarchy of power. Anyone up on the chain was expected to take the penetrative role; anyone below them was expected to take the receptive role. Anyone who violated these hierarchies was sexually immoral.

    Free men with status? Top of the chain. Boys or men of low status? Below that. Women, at the very, very bottom, always. The sin was in penetrating someone who was supposed to, themselves, be in the penetrative role.

    The Sodom and Gomorrah story was about a people who had been taught to care for strangers who instead wanted to rape a (male) guest to death. Which violated two mores: Hospitality and the chain of status wrt to the penetrative role. That's why it was perfectly ok for Lot to offer his daughters, and why the gang didn't want *girls*. They wanted to demonstrate their power by taking on men of station.

    What does this mean in this context? It means that sexual domination has long been a part of how power works in human civilizations, at least in these cultures that descend from that place in those times.

    We, here today, with our consent norms and our idea of love and equality in relationships, we're the odd ones. We've bucked the norms. (A tremendous accomplishment that took thousands of years.) And those norms *still exist.* They exist within toxic masculinity, pro-patriarchy religions, and abusive relationships.

    It is hard for me to believe that the Epstein Class of today is somehow worse than the Fat Cats of the 1920s, or the aristocracy of the Renaissance, or the lords and monks of the Middle Ages.

    We're really not that far descended from Rome. The path to liberation has been carved against these longstanding traditions.

    We have only to look at the world billionaires are trying to create, to see what their values and expectations are.

    And why they admire Rome so much.

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #PTSD
    #cults
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #abuseCulture
    #SexualAssault

  15. CW: SA within cult contexts, Epstein

    I've recently commented on Epstein probably not being the first of his kind, that his market for sex victims already existed, and that the sexual abuse of minors and the marginalized as a recreational activity for the rich and powerful likely goes way, way back. And I got a little bit of pushback.

    But this is my world, this cult stuff. And if this has been going on in new sex cults like NXIVM, and secretly in old established religions like Catholicism, in Mormonism, in evangelicalism (it is), the why the hell wouldn't the richest, most powerful people in the world have done this going back across time?

    Why are we holding dead billionaires to an idealized image? Why are we defending them? Why are we *still* bending over backwards to suspend disbelief that the worst people in the world in every other regard are somehow pure when it comes to sexual abuse?

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #PTSD
    #cults
    #exvie
    #exvangelical #AbuseCulture #SexualAssault

  16. CW: SA within cult contexts, kink

    New paper on sexual conditioning within cults just dropped. This article sums up the paper for a lay audience.

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/domin

    I am so relieved that highly respected cult researchers are finally backing up conclusions I suspected early in my own research:

    - C-PTSD isn't just about trauma, it's about conditioned reactions and beliefs.

    - Oppressive high-demand religious institutions condition followers to accept sexual abuse, or be the one to dish it out.

    - Religious control of sexual bodies doesn't just prime one for abuse. It is itself a form of sexual abuse. It is at least as bad to manipulate a person into having children she doesn't want as it is to traditionally abuse her.

    - What I say next may be controversial, but this research implies it, and I've suspected this since I joined the kink scene of my own free will first thing after leaving Mormonism: Sexual submissiveness can be a result of being reared in a high-demand religious environment, even if as adults we joyously consent as bottoms outside of the original religious framework. (I also think Dom/sub alignment is partly biological.)

    Excerpts:

    "This article is foundational because it frames sexual exploitation as structurally embedded in coercive systems, not merely the misconduct of individual leaders."

    ...

    "Cult leaders quickly recognize that controlling the sexual and intimate lives of their followers provides a massive source of power. In Lalich’s analysis, sexual domination is not merely one abuse among many — it is the final stage of objectification within an authoritarian system.

    "This exploitation ranges from strict rules regarding marriage and procreation to more overt abuses like arranged marriages and forced sexual activity. By controlling the most intimate aspects of life, the leader ensures there is no private sphere beyond his reach."

    ...

    "One of Lalich’s most important contributions is her direct challenge to the notion of consent within cult environments. Because cults are structured around extreme power imbalances, genuine consent cannot exist. Members are conditioned through fear of expulsion, spiritual threats, peer pressure, and dependency on the leader for identity and belonging."

    ...“Because of the power imbalance between leader and followers, sexual contact is never truly consensual and is likely to have damaging consequences for the follower.”

    ...

    "Shame, guilt, and self-blame persist long after exit. The leader’s ideology continues to shape the survivor’s internal narrative. Recovery therefore requires dismantling both the sexual trauma and the ideological manipulation that sustained it."

    ...

    "At one post-cult recovery workshop, 40% of women present reported having been sexually abused in their cult (p. 7). Lalich suggests this number likely underestimates the true prevalence based on her own clinical observations. The silence surrounding sexual exploitation, she argues, is itself part of the problem."


    I believe this is true even in (especially in) sex-negative environments. We pointed this out in the book I just wrote. If sex is shrouded in secrecy and shame, victims are unable to understand what they are going through, and unable to report it.

    🧵 ?

    #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #PTSD #cults #exvie #exvangelical #abuseCulture #SexualAssault

  17. Christian apologists should be like, "Oh, yeah, we're really sorry about that. That isn't right. We're gonna fix that right away."

    #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvagelical

  18. There definitely seems to be a vibe shift. From powerlessness and helplessness to empowerment and determination

    I'm not the only one. And it's not just here on Mastodon.

    Nothing is forever. No trend continues ever upward. We're learning the skills and fortitude we need. We're self-organizing against the shape that collective trauma has forced us into.

    This too shall pass.

    Then imagine the world we'll be able to build with the momentum.

    #solarpunk

    #exmo #exmormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical #USPol #Antifa #resist #humanism #atheism

  19. And about a year, (I'll have to do some birthday math) I will have been out of the Mormon church for as long as I was in.

    #exmo #exmormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  20. I have finished my final draft of Sexcommunicated!

    This is, oddly, within two days of my 25th anniversary of deciding to be done with the LDS Church for good, on Jan 26th 2001.

    Natasha Helfer, my client, has lined up a publisher! Her and the publisher will do the final edits. It should be a printed book within a year or two. I will have co-byline.

    That's about all the details I'm authorized to release.

    Sexcommunicated tells the story of Natasha's life, her journey towards becoming a sex therapist, the splash she made in the Mormon world with her therapy blog in 2012, and the events that led to her excommunication in 2021.

    I will keep you updated on publishing news as the manuscript rolls through the process.

    #exmo #exmormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  21. The ICSA has been working hard to better support former cult members and those who have loved ones stuck in cults. Here's their newsletter recapping their updated website and revamped services.

    I've been an ICSA member for many years. It's a very small academic organization that also welcome lay people who have had life experiences with cults. They've been around (under various names) for many decades, originally the publishers of Cultic Studies Journal, which is now split across several publications under various names. I've spoken about Mormonism at their conferences and met people with all kinds of backgrounds.

    Their resources include: an academic journal, a magazine for lay people, conferences, a directory of helping professionals, and a back catalogue of all their past publications.

    I'm glad to see them becoming more active and increasing their outreach.

    simplyk-bucket-production.s3.c

    #cults #ReligiousTrauma #ICSA #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  22. The ICSA has been working hard to better support former cult members and those who have loved ones stuck in cults. Here's their newsletter recapping their updated website and revamped services.

    I've been an ICSA member for many years. It's a very small academic organization that also welcome lay people who have had life experiences with cults. They've been around (under various names) for many decades, originally the publishers of Cultic Studies Journal, which is now split across several publications under various names. I've spoken about Mormonism at their conferences and met people with all kinds of backgrounds.

    Their resources include: an academic journal, a magazine for lay people, conferences, a directory of helping professionals, and a back catalogue of all their past publications.

    I'm glad to see them becoming more active and increasing their outreach.

    simplyk-bucket-production.s3.c

    #cults #ReligiousTrauma #ICSA #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  23. The ICSA has been working hard to better support former cult members and those who have loved ones stuck in cults. Here's their newsletter recapping their updated website and revamped services.

    I've been an ICSA member for many years. It's a very small academic organization that also welcome lay people who have had life experiences with cults. They've been around (under various names) for many decades, originally the publishers of Cultic Studies Journal, which is now split across several publications under various names. I've spoken about Mormonism at their conferences and met people with all kinds of backgrounds.

    Their resources include: an academic journal, a magazine for lay people, conferences, a directory of helping professionals, and a back catalogue of all their past publications.

    I'm glad to see them becoming more active and increasing their outreach.

    simplyk-bucket-production.s3.c

    #cults #ReligiousTrauma #ICSA #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  24. The ICSA has been working hard to better support former cult members and those who have loved ones stuck in cults. Here's their newsletter recapping their updated website and revamped services.

    I've been an ICSA member for many years. It's a very small academic organization that also welcome lay people who have had life experiences with cults. They've been around (under various names) for many decades, originally the publishers of Cultic Studies Journal, which is now split across several publications under various names. I've spoken about Mormonism at their conferences and met people with all kinds of backgrounds.

    Their resources include: an academic journal, a magazine for lay people, conferences, a directory of helping professionals, and a back catalogue of all their past publications.

    I'm glad to see them becoming more active and increasing their outreach.

    simplyk-bucket-production.s3.c

    #cults #ReligiousTrauma #ICSA #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  25. The ICSA has been working hard to better support former cult members and those who have loved ones stuck in cults. Here's their newsletter recapping their updated website and revamped services.

    I've been an ICSA member for many years. It's a very small academic organization that also welcome lay people who have had life experiences with cults. They've been around (under various names) for many decades, originally the publishers of Cultic Studies Journal, which is now split across several publications under various names. I've spoken about Mormonism at their conferences and met people with all kinds of backgrounds.

    Their resources include: an academic journal, a magazine for lay people, conferences, a directory of helping professionals, and a back catalogue of all their past publications.

    I'm glad to see them becoming more active and increasing their outreach.

    simplyk-bucket-production.s3.c

    #cults #ReligiousTrauma #ICSA #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  26. The International Cultic Studies Association has an article this week with tips to help those who have families in cults, or who are affected by religious trauma over the holidays.

    icsatoday.substack.com/p/a-mes

    #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical

  27. The international Cultic Studies Association has added a new service provider directory for helping professionals who work in fields related to cult recovery and religious trauma, worldwide.

    It doesn't seem like there are too many providers (that's how it was when I was seeking therapy for cult recovery in the 00s, which is one reason I wrote Recovering Agency), so if you are a helping professional specializing in cult recovery or religious trauma recovery, consider joining! The ICSA is a great resource all around.

    And if you're in need of recovery services, give it a search.

    internationalculticstudies.org

    #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #cult

  28. For more information, if you can stomach it, the book Breaking Their Will by Janet Heimlich gets into it. (I was unable to finish it.)

    Fuck James Dobson.

    #JamesDobson #AbuseCulture #ReligiousTrauma #exvangelical #exvie #exmo #exmormon

  29. Not hiding this because folks need to see this, but CW for child abuse and the evils of American Christfascism. And speaking ill of the dead, which I will gladly do. I can't speak ill enough of him.

    James Dobson is a major reason why *this*. Even his evangelical friends and radio cohosts thought he was too cruel. I'm glad he died before he could see his creation of Cristofascism come to fruition. He's one of the worst human beings to ever live.

    Not content to let trauma-informed culture break the cycle of domestic abuse, he perpetuated child abuse by teaching millions of parents *how*. He even sold a device for beating children called "The Rod." (As in "spare the rod, spoil the child.") He advocated for what was known as "blanket training," used to break the will of children starting in infancy. The goal was to create a mindless being who would not cry when beaten, who would jump to with a "Yes sir!" on *any* command.

    The core cruelties of white American evangelicalism in 2025 can be traced to many men, but this man was its face and kindly voice on the radio. When I speak of #AbuseCulture, this is what I mean. Dobson is the black hole which emitted its unholy light even as the revelations of science and open culture attempted to eliminate childhood trauma — Dobson raised its banner and pulled millions of Christians in, not just evangelicals, but anyone who trusted a figure promoting "Family Values," parents who would not on their own be able or even willing to enact such cruelties upon their own children, but under Dobson's manipulations, broke the will of their children...

    ...children who grew up and abused their own children, who are now pastors and sheriffs and senators and ICE thugs who want to make this reality for all of us.

    That is the legacy of this horrible, horrible man.

    I don't wish eternal hell on anyone, but I wouldn't mind if this particular creature experienced every pain he caused.

    #ReligiousTrauma #exvangelical #exvie #exmo #exmormon

  30. Tangent: LDS Makes "Mormon" a Bad Word

    Imagine the True Meritocracy and the power of Revelation in which a PR team for an organization with direct access to God and HUNDREDS of billions of dollars faces a massive loss of members and are struggling to get more.

    They look at the scene of American religion, where the not-religiously-affiliated demographic is growing more rapidly than in any of our lifetimes, and the Evangelicals have the minds of the remaining population sewn up in the largest and most powerful cult known to the USA, and these brilliant marketers with their high salaries and fancy degrees say:

    "You know what the problem is? People don't think we worship JESUS CHRIST. So let's ditch the Mormon label to make sure they know this is the church of JESUS CHRIST (of blah blah blah...doesn't matter). THAT will surely appeal to the youth of today!"

    Absolutely fumbled it.

    #exmo #exmormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  31. This other couple. They looked a bit more alty, some piercings, pink hair, but not too alty.

    At one point the guy starts looking around the room. She pauses and she's like, What? He's like, "I'm looking for a bone." (I guess they have some bones around the house — like I said, alty.) Then he reaches under the camera and produces a wooden stick with some decorations. Turns out it's an African pipe. Unsure if it's for smoking or playing, but he tries to play it. As she starts the video again, he sort of just...... cradles it in his arms.

    I'm serious y'all, Heilung is a mirror that just shows you all this stuff working in the deeply repressed collective unconscious of white people. These forbidden roots in us that are screaming to be heard, they just have no voice.

    #Heilung #Music #rewilding #Decolonize #decolonization #AbuseCulture #paganism #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #genealogy

  32. I'm serious you could do a whole study on "white people first time reacting to Heilung on YouTube" that would completely expose everything about how whiteness works... and use these lessons to find the secret antidote.

    A couple of notable moments today.

    Two incredibly stereotypical middle class liberal white women watched Krigsgaldr, and the first words out of her mouth was: "Can you imagine if they work in an office during the day? Like 'hey Helga, what are you doing after work?' 'Oh I'm in a band, want to come see us?'"

    She went immediately to the most familiar thing she knew and how harshly it contrasted with what she saw on screen. She had no other symbols or language to describe what she experienced. (Whereas I'd at least had some Wicca and Celtic lore under my belt for my first watching.)

    Notably also is how they talked about the ancestral music of the "people of Norway and Europe," and I'm like THEY'RE YOUR ANCESTRAL PEOPLE TOO!!! (I left a comment to that effect, with fewer caps.)

    It's like white Americans, we just sprung from nothing. No sense of connection to anything prior to 1776. That's part of the myth of whiteness. Yet still they *felt* their connection, even if they couldn't own it yet.

    🧵

    #Heilung #Music #rewilding #Decolonize #decolonization #AbuseCulture #paganism #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #genealogy

  33. One category I haven't searched for in all the reaction videos I've watched is "White Evangelicals React to Heilung."

    I doubt I'd find any? But if I did...🍿

    #Heilung #Music #rewilding #Decolonize #decolonization #AbuseCulture #paganism #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #genealogy

  34. Want to hear my voice?? Just a reminder that I did a podcast recently with @mattsheffield

    plus.flux.community/p/as-evang

    As Evangelicalism grows increasingly unhinged, where is Mormonism going?

    #exmo #exomormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  35. Want to hear my voice?? Just a reminder that I did a podcast recently with @mattsheffield

    plus.flux.community/p/as-evang

    As Evangelicalism grows increasingly unhinged, where is Mormonism going?

    #exmo #exomormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  36. Want to hear my voice?? Just a reminder that I did a podcast recently with @mattsheffield

    plus.flux.community/p/as-evang

    As Evangelicalism grows increasingly unhinged, where is Mormonism going?

    #exmo #exomormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  37. Want to hear my voice?? Just a reminder that I did a podcast recently with @mattsheffield

    plus.flux.community/p/as-evang

    As Evangelicalism grows increasingly unhinged, where is Mormonism going?

    #exmo #exomormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  38. Want to hear my voice?? Just a reminder that I did a podcast recently with @mattsheffield

    plus.flux.community/p/as-evang

    As Evangelicalism grows increasingly unhinged, where is Mormonism going?

    #exmo #exomormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical

  39. Hey, I did a thing with @mattsheffield! He and I discuss Mormonism in the current political climate, for your ears.

    Topics:
    - Challenges of free will and information control
    - Mormonism created new doctrinal controversies while solving for classical Christian dilemmas
    - Centralization and doctrinal evolution in Mormonism
    - Intellectual Mormonism’s conflicted epistemology
    - Sweeping embarrassing doctrines under the rug doesn’t make them disappear
    - Scientific claims and the Book of Mormon
    - Spiritual polygamy remains an actual practice in today’s Mormonism
    - Former Mormons and active progressive Mormons are reconciling
    - Reclaiming self-worth and autonomy

    #exmo #ExMormon #ReligiousTrauma #exvie #exvangelical #podcast
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  40. I wish I could show you inside my head, the maps of cultures, societies, timelines, history, organizations, themes and metaphors, collective symbols, worldviews, human psychology, all of it intersecting across each other like multidimensional cells in a Petri dish.

    I *can* put this stuff into words, like in this thread, but there's so much I just don't have energy to go into. Or, sometimes that particular view that I'm looking at it isn't quite yet formed.

    Stuff enough useless knowledge in there for 50 years and some patterns do start to emerge.

    🧵

    #FolkHorror #Heilung #Music #rewilding #Decolonize #decolonization #AbuseCulture #paganism #ReligiousTrauma #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #genealogy

  41. A lot of typos and errors in this thread. I was fighting with my phone's autocarrot for just about every word the entire thread.

    It's readable though.

    🧵

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  42. I'm also recalling that I explore these themes, in my novel Emerald City Dreamer and its unpublished sequels, before I had much of this language or these models to describe it.

    It's about faeries and faerie hunters, based on Celtic and Scandinavian faerie lore. Fae lore is one remaining piece of pre-Christian animistic religion that managed to "survive", though barely intact.

    I explore those themes via the hunters' perspective and the fae, trying to capture the spirit of actual lore rather than a rationalized version of fairies. These are capricious beings with alternative kinds of reason and morality than humans can understand. Just like nature, the Fae are neither "good" or "bad," they just are. I also explore themes of fae eradication by the advent of iron, Christianity, and later science.

    In later books, I explore how colonization affected indigenous spirits in the Seattle region, in that the presence of European humans changed them against their will. And that's why all the fae in Seattle are somehow Celtic and Scandinavian.

    I guess I've been thinking about this stuff for long time. And I've been pissed about the loss of Celtic culture for a long time. Because I've gone looking and it's more question marks than periods.

    🧵

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  43. Yes, in addition to the news, today I'm editing my client's chapter about that time she was expelled from BYU without a tuition refund for voluntarily confessing sexual "sin".

    #Sexcommunicated
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #ReligiousTrauma
    #LDS
    #Mormon
    #exvie
    #Exvangelical

  44. This is a long way to say: If you don't understand the effects of cognitive dissonance, and don't unpack your own internal contradictions, you can be more easily manipulated into behaviors and beliefs you would not *consciously* agree with.

    If you like free agency and are a big fan of free will, this is the sort of thing you need to work on.

    #philosophy
    #atheism
    #theism
    #exvangelical
    #exvie
    #exmormon
    #exmo
    #ReligiousTrauma
    #AbuseCulture

  45. Theological concepts like "The Problem of Evil" aren't just atheist gotchas. The contradictions within certain theologies can exist unawares within the minds of believers, causing dissonance that comes out in ways that perpetuate and allow harms to continue.

    For instance, even if a Christian believer has not consciously considered the Problem of Evil, they will still feel this contradiction whenever it is encountered:

    1. God is good.
    2. God is omnipotent.
    3. God allows evil to exist.

    They will have many sideways methods of resolving this discomfort, which will vary from person to person and from situation to situation.

    They may, for instance, lean on Just World views (the feeling that the world is automatically fair and so if someone is disadvantaged they must have done something to deserve it) when it comes to LGBTQ issues. God is good, and omnipotent, so if a queer person is suffering, it isn't because their church community has stigmatized them or because church doctrines about God's will are wrong (or further, that God might not exist or might not be good), no it must be proof that being queer is sinful and they deserve their suffering.

    This same formula applies in many other areas, including towards abuse victims.

    The contradictions within many popular forms of theism are not harmless. They get resolved, usually unconsciously, by organizations and individuals. When they are resolved without mindful consideration of the consequences, people get hurt.

    For abusers and powertrippers? This is by design, to their benefit, and more likely to be conscious.

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  46. CW: SA, DV, kink, religious context

    That's why I call it grooming. It has all the hallmarks. It normalizes creepy old men snooping into the sex lives of younger people. It normalizes sexual submission to authority and to men. It trivializes seeking approval with regard to sexual acts from men with power.

    I wouldn't have put up with any of my abusers and various random sexual assaults my whole life if the LDS Church had not groomed me.

    (It's also no mistake that many of us ended up kinky.)

    🧵

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    #AbuseCulture
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #deconstructing