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  1. @ohhthatsrich on Instagram

    With Trump’s far-right evangelical prayer marathon coming up Sunday, now is a good time to let you know how to respond when people say “America is a Christian nation!” #politics #trump #deconstructing #religion #Jesus #Christ #RepublicansAreTheProblem #RepublicansAreLiars

  2. I prefer an approach to spirituality that is based in both gnosis and high-level critical thinking and analogue insight—not fear-based superstition. You’ll find all that in Book 2 of THE GRAND ILLUSION (and some snippets on my Subst@ck).

    Leave a 📕 if you'd like to be first to know when it's available.
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    #RTS #religioustraumasyndrome #ReligiousTrauma #Deconstructing #Exvangelical #FaithDeconstruction #ReligiousHarm #SpiritualAbuse #ChurchHurt #DogmaFree #RecoveringFromReligion #salvationism

  3. #ErikDavis: "There is a reason that #esoteric things were esoteric throughout the history of #culture and #religion, and it is that they are not for everybody, at least at the stage most people are, trying to just make a living, trying to keep their families together... because a lot of these esoteric practices and experiences, have a kind of #deconstructing quality, they pull the rug out from under you, they show you a multiplicity world, sometimes god is everywhere, and it is pretty groovy, but it can be, in someways, #unsettling."

    @erik_davis & Douglas @Rushkoff on #Psychedelics in society

    youtube.com/watch?v=4N6jTxEeoh

  4. #ErikDavis: "There is a reason that #esoteric things were esoteric throughout the history of #culture and #religion, and it is that they are not for everybody, at least at the stage most people are, trying to just make a living, trying to keep their families together... because a lot of these esoteric practices and experiences, have a kind of #deconstructing quality, they pull the rug out from under you, they show you a multiplicity world, sometimes god is everywhere, and it is pretty groovy, but it can be, in someways, #unsettling."

    @erik_davis & Douglas @Rushkoff on #Psychedelics in society

    youtube.com/watch?v=4N6jTxEeoh

  5. Why #Deconstructing From #Evangelical #Christianity Is SO Important and SO Difficult

    youtube.com/watch?v=ltuEEsqgU0
    #deconstructingchristianity #exvangelical #exchristian

    This is a short clip from a full episode of The Kayse Melone Show. Here, I talk about why I think #Deconstruction from Evangelical #Fundamentalist Christianity is so important. Also, what happens after we go through Deconstruction?

  6. Why #Deconstructing From #Evangelical #Christianity Is SO Important and SO Difficult

    youtube.com/watch?v=ltuEEsqgU0
    #deconstructingchristianity #exvangelical #exchristian

    This is a short clip from a full episode of The Kayse Melone Show. Here, I talk about why I think #Deconstruction from Evangelical #Fundamentalist Christianity is so important. Also, what happens after we go through Deconstruction?

  7. CW: SA, DV, kink, religious context

    That's why I call it grooming. It has all the hallmarks. It normalizes creepy old men snooping into the sex lives of younger people. It normalizes sexual submission to authority and to men. It trivializes seeking approval with regard to sexual acts from men with power.

    I wouldn't have put up with any of my abusers and various random sexual assaults my whole life if the LDS Church had not groomed me.

    (It's also no mistake that many of us ended up kinky.)

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #AbuseCulture
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #deconstructing

  8. CW: SA, DV, kink, religious context

    That's why I call it grooming. It has all the hallmarks. It normalizes creepy old men snooping into the sex lives of younger people. It normalizes sexual submission to authority and to men. It trivializes seeking approval with regard to sexual acts from men with power.

    I wouldn't have put up with any of my abusers and various random sexual assaults my whole life if the LDS Church had not groomed me.

    (It's also no mistake that many of us ended up kinky.)

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #AbuseCulture
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #deconstructing

  9. CW: SA, DV, religious context

    And you know what else wasn't consensual when I was a young person in Mormonism?

    Going to a much older man and telling him my unauthorized sexual acts, a requirement for getting right with God.

    Very 100% sick and NOT CONSENT.

    "You are unworthy of God's love, guidance, approval if you do not go to a much older man in authority over you and tell him how you've acted sexually. You will not be able to go 'home' after you die unless you do this thing."

    THIS IS SEXUAL ABUSE.

    In Mormonism, though, it's totally normal, and righteous, and holy. They run kids as young as 12 through this.

    But it's sexual abuse even on adults.

    Even though the man I confessed to wasn't a sicko, and he treated me well, didn't want to know many details, it was still abusive because I did not consent. I was coerced.

    ... but many of them are sickos.

    A higher ranking guy I got later, when I wasn't repenting, just wanting access to the Temple, he DID want to know details even though I'd repented and was supposed to have been wiped clean!

    And my experience of ecclesiastical sexual abuse was light compared to some I've heard accounted.

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #AbuseCulture
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #deconstructing

  10. CW: SA, DV, religious context

    And you know what else wasn't consensual when I was a young person in Mormonism?

    Going to a much older man and telling him my unauthorized sexual acts, a requirement for getting right with God.

    Very 100% sick and NOT CONSENT.

    "You are unworthy of God's love, guidance, approval if you do not go to a much older man in authority over you and tell him how you've acted sexually. You will not be able to go 'home' after you die unless you do this thing."

    THIS IS SEXUAL ABUSE.

    In Mormonism, though, it's totally normal, and righteous, and holy. They run kids as young as 12 through this.

    But it's sexual abuse even on adults.

    Even though the man I confessed to wasn't a sicko, and he treated me well, didn't want to know many details, it was still abusive because I did not consent. I was coerced.

    ... but many of them are sickos.

    A higher ranking guy I got later, when I wasn't repenting, just wanting access to the Temple, he DID want to know details even though I'd repented and was supposed to have been wiped clean!

    And my experience of ecclesiastical sexual abuse was light compared to some I've heard accounted.

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma
    #AbuseCulture
    #exmo
    #exmormon
    #exvie
    #exvangelical
    #deconstructing

  11. CW: SA, DV

    The sexual grooming of ultra-conservative religions confuses consent by making you not want something you actually want.

    Did I want sex? Yes.

    Was I supposed to want sex? No.

    So when "lawfully" making out with another person but approaching the line, my internal concept of what I really wanted got all confused. Masturbation? Even worse! Of course I wanted it, but punished myself afterwards, trying to force myself to never do it again.

    That confusion lasted well beyond me dumping those beliefs and moving into highly sex-positive communities. It lasted into the relationship with my abuser, where he (also from a conservative religious background) took advantage of my confusion. I was very often confused about whether I wanted sex, or certain types of sex, or sex under certain contexts, at any given time in that relationship.

    Many of those occasions I've looked back and saw where I said yes when I meant no. Or where I said yes, and then he changed the circumstances, and I didn't feel "No" was an option.

    And more than a few times where I did say no but he pushed me in ways I did not actually want.

    And I'm sure he knew that. That was part of his game. Sometimes things happen out of miscommunication, which I thought at the time, but in his case? He knew.

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma #AbuseCulture #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #deconstructing

  12. CW: SA, DV

    The sexual grooming of ultra-conservative religions confuses consent by making you not want something you actually want.

    Did I want sex? Yes.

    Was I supposed to want sex? No.

    So when "lawfully" making out with another person but approaching the line, my internal concept of what I really wanted got all confused. Masturbation? Even worse! Of course I wanted it, but punished myself afterwards, trying to force myself to never do it again.

    That confusion lasted well beyond me dumping those beliefs and moving into highly sex-positive communities. It lasted into the relationship with my abuser, where he (also from a conservative religious background) took advantage of my confusion. I was very often confused about whether I wanted sex, or certain types of sex, or sex under certain contexts, at any given time in that relationship.

    Many of those occasions I've looked back and saw where I said yes when I meant no. Or where I said yes, and then he changed the circumstances, and I didn't feel "No" was an option.

    And more than a few times where I did say no but he pushed me in ways I did not actually want.

    And I'm sure he knew that. That was part of his game. Sometimes things happen out of miscommunication, which I thought at the time, but in his case? He knew.

    🧵

    #ReligiousTrauma #AbuseCulture #exmo #exmormon #exvie #exvangelical #deconstructing

  13. Whiteness IS a culture. It's just inauthentic to our deeper erased traditions, constructed to serve the needs of the powerful. We can do better and find liberation from those who manipulate us to serve as their weapons against people of color.

    #AbuseCulture #Decolonize #Deconstructing #Deconditioning

  14. Whiteness IS a culture. It's just inauthentic to our deeper erased traditions, constructed to serve the needs of the powerful. We can do better and find liberation from those who manipulate us to serve as their weapons against people of color.

    #AbuseCulture #Decolonize #Deconstructing #Deconditioning

  15. Thomas Scott co-founded the Church Missionary Society. Britain exceled at adultery, luxury, and debauchery, and shed innocent blood around the world for greed.

    He wrote a widely used bible commentary. Today, would we find it untoward for a preacher to bring up national sins (involving guns or $)?

    How can you refrain from adultery, luxury, and debauchery, especially as drives demands that harm people in other countries?

    #christian #deconstructing #christlikeliving #empathize #fightpoverty

  16. And now I have a sturdy place to go.
    A place to watch the forest grow.
    Sit long enough, and quiet enough, and you will wonder so:
    Who is watching who grow?
    #construction #poetry #deconstructing

  17. And now I have a sturdy place to go.
    A place to watch the forest grow.
    Sit long enough, and quiet enough, and you will wonder so:
    Who is watching who grow?
    #construction #poetry #deconstructing

  18. William Jay, English Congregationalist, writes on Jesus’ ascension. Jesus feels for us, and Jesus displays his gentleness through the relief of wants through His followers.

    Some don’t preach a gentle Jesus. Others might see the harshness of Christians and view this as an indication of Christ’s character. Again, Jay says the gentle nature of Christ shown in gentleness of us.

    How can you be more gentle to those in need?

    #christian #beablessingtoday #fightpoverty #deconstructing #inequality

  19. Many of us understand that there is one side of the US political spectrum that has turned truly awful, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is how that got that way and why they are so adament about their beliefs. Of course there are pragmatic reasons (people who are wealthy and in charge of things want to stay that way) but still it is truly astounding that so many people who are not among the category of "rich white men" will still cling to those who probably despise them, or if not them then people they know and maybe even love. There is a person I know who is employed at a public agency and his direct boss is probably the biggest Trump supporter in the building - oh, and she also happens to be a lesbian. How does that make any sense at all, given what Trump and his followers have said they want to do to #lbgtq people?

    Well, a big part of it is religion, and in particular the Christian religion. So many of those people have somehow been convinced that to oppose Trump would be to oppose "God's annointed" even though it is obvious to most of us on the outside of their bubble that Trump is not a God-fearing man, and would probably be among the first to have Jesus shot to death if he ever came back.

    But step back a bit - where did this idea of just unconditionally obeying a "man of god" come from in the first place? Well, that is certainly nothing new, after all the early church required its followers to obey the Pope and all the bishops and cardinals and priests and so on. But where did that ever come from? After all, Jesus for the most part condemned organized religion, especially the scribes and the Pharisees of his day, according to the Bible.

    So where did #Christianity go off the rails? Well, for years I have been saying that it's because Christians, and especially modern #evangelicals, stopped following the teachings of Jesus a long time ago. Sure, they pay lip service to him and pray to him, but for the most part they follow the instructions found in the writings of the "apostle" Paul. And that is a real problem, because Paul was probably just as deluded ans any guy who's ever started his own cult or sect that is loosely based on Christianity. There are many cults that use the Bible AND other writings (but mostly the "other" writings) as the basis of their religion, the only difference is that the extra writings of Paul (and possibly others who used his name) got included in Biblical canon by the early church. But that doesn't mean they are writings that Jesus would have in any way approved of. In fact, there are cases where Paul's writings directly contradict the teachings of Jesus. Here's a good video on the topic:

    7 Times Paul Contradicted Jesus
    youtube.com/watch?v=iNDsaPoeuz

    Why is this important? Because most of the hate you see coming from the so-called "religious right" is not a part of their religion if you leave out Paul (and also the old testament, but that's another discussion). I have said before, they seem to love conspiracy theories, and you could make a great conspiracy theory that the early church included Paul's writings in the Bible even though they knew he was a "false christ" because if you wanted to control the masses and make them subserviant to the church hierarchy, teaching only the words of Jesus simply would not do. But if you wanted to replace the Christian religion with something that was in many ways the polar opposite of what Jesus taught, then Paul was your guy. And that is as true today as it was hundreds of years ago, and it is the reason so many Christians are deluded about who God has chosen to lead them (and yes, I realize they are to some degree deluded because they want to be, because the delusion reinforces their prejudices and their hatred of those who are not like them). But when they try to stand on their religion as justification for what they believe or do, maybe it is worth asking which religion they are talking about, the one taught by Jesus or the probably totally fabricated version made up by Paul?

    EDIT: Here's one more (this reminds me of some dishonest preachers):

    The Dishonest Apostle | Was Paul Caught in a Lie?
    youtube.com/watch?v=9wGNsRCiTT

    #biblecontradictions #deconstructionism #exvangelical #counterapologetics #USpol #ReligiousTrauma #ptsd #ChristianNationalism #Christofascism #deconstructing #evangelicalism #postchristian #postchristianity #exchristian #EmptyThePews #exvie #AbuseCulture #politics #mysogyny #homophobia #racism

  20. Many of us understand that there is one side of the US political spectrum that has turned truly awful, but what a lot of people don't seem to understand is how that got that way and why they are so adament about their beliefs. Of course there are pragmatic reasons (people who are wealthy and in charge of things want to stay that way) but still it is truly astounding that so many people who are not among the category of "rich white men" will still cling to those who probably despise them, or if not them then people they know and maybe even love. There is a person I know who is employed at a public agency and his direct boss is probably the biggest Trump supporter in the building - oh, and she also happens to be a lesbian. How does that make any sense at all, given what Trump and his followers have said they want to do to #lbgtq people?

    Well, a big part of it is religion, and in particular the Christian religion. So many of those people have somehow been convinced that to oppose Trump would be to oppose "God's annointed" even though it is obvious to most of us on the outside of their bubble that Trump is not a God-fearing man, and would probably be among the first to have Jesus shot to death if he ever came back.

    But step back a bit - where did this idea of just unconditionally obeying a "man of god" come from in the first place? Well, that is certainly nothing new, after all the early church required its followers to obey the Pope and all the bishops and cardinals and priests and so on. But where did that ever come from? After all, Jesus for the most part condemned organized religion, especially the scribes and the Pharisees of his day, according to the Bible.

    So where did #Christianity go off the rails? Well, for years I have been saying that it's because Christians, and especially modern #evangelicals, stopped following the teachings of Jesus a long time ago. Sure, they pay lip service to him and pray to him, but for the most part they follow the instructions found in the writings of the "apostle" Paul. And that is a real problem, because Paul was probably just as deluded ans any guy who's ever started his own cult or sect that is loosely based on Christianity. There are many cults that use the Bible AND other writings (but mostly the "other" writings) as the basis of their religion, the only difference is that the extra writings of Paul (and possibly others who used his name) got included in Biblical canon by the early church. But that doesn't mean they are writings that Jesus would have in any way approved of. In fact, there are cases where Paul's writings directly contradict the teachings of Jesus. Here's a good video on the topic:

    7 Times Paul Contradicted Jesus
    youtube.com/watch?v=iNDsaPoeuz

    Why is this important? Because most of the hate you see coming from the so-called "religious right" is not a part of their religion if you leave out Paul (and also the old testament, but that's another discussion). I have said before, they seem to love conspiracy theories, and you could make a great conspiracy theory that the early church included Paul's writings in the Bible even though they knew he was a "false christ" because if you wanted to control the masses and make them subserviant to the church hierarchy, teaching only the words of Jesus simply would not do. But if you wanted to replace the Christian religion with something that was in many ways the polar opposite of what Jesus taught, then Paul was your guy. And that is as true today as it was hundreds of years ago, and it is the reason so many Christians are deluded about who God has chosen to lead them (and yes, I realize they are to some degree deluded because they want to be, because the delusion reinforces their prejudices and their hatred of those who are not like them). But when they try to stand on their religion as justification for what they believe or do, maybe it is worth asking which religion they are talking about, the one taught by Jesus or the probably totally fabricated version made up by Paul?

    EDIT: Here's one more (this reminds me of some dishonest preachers):

    The Dishonest Apostle | Was Paul Caught in a Lie?
    youtube.com/watch?v=9wGNsRCiTT

    #biblecontradictions #deconstructionism #exvangelical #counterapologetics #USpol #ReligiousTrauma #ptsd #ChristianNationalism #Christofascism #deconstructing #evangelicalism #postchristian #postchristianity #exchristian #EmptyThePews #exvie #AbuseCulture #politics #mysogyny #homophobia #racism

  21. "That’s why the campaign itself is destined to stop short of reaching the audiences it’s trying to target. Its targets on the left are wary of the sort of hollow proselytizing that claims to love the sinner while casting their intrinsic identity as something sinful. And its targets on the right are too busy viewing those on the left as something sinful to truly consider what it might mean to love them."

    #exmo #ExMormon #lgbtq #exvie #exvangelical #deconstructing #ReligiousTrauma #Christianity #USpol #HeGetsUs

    apple.news/A0C7IbUmCS0KKbZXpgK

  22. "That’s why the campaign itself is destined to stop short of reaching the audiences it’s trying to target. Its targets on the left are wary of the sort of hollow proselytizing that claims to love the sinner while casting their intrinsic identity as something sinful. And its targets on the right are too busy viewing those on the left as something sinful to truly consider what it might mean to love them."

    #exmo #ExMormon #lgbtq #exvie #exvangelical #deconstructing #ReligiousTrauma #Christianity #USpol #HeGetsUs

    apple.news/A0C7IbUmCS0KKbZXpgK

  23. Leaving #evangelicalism affects people differently, & I suspect one key variable is whether someone grew up in an #evangelical home or converted later. I've seen many people #deconstructing who experience much increased curiosity, moving out of the enforced limits of their childhood. But for an adult convert, whose radical postmodernism found a ground of epistemology in Christian faith, "deconstructing" (an unfortunate word) enervates curiosity. How can we know anything at all? #exvangelical

  24. Leaving #evangelicalism affects people differently, & I suspect one key variable is whether someone grew up in an #evangelical home or converted later. I've seen many people #deconstructing who experience much increased curiosity, moving out of the enforced limits of their childhood. But for an adult convert, whose radical postmodernism found a ground of epistemology in Christian faith, "deconstructing" (an unfortunate word) enervates curiosity. How can we know anything at all? #exvangelical

  25. @awgonnerman I created an entry in Evernote on 12/4/2013 titled “A Reluctant Atheist” but didn’t add any content. It appears we were #deconstructing around the same time.

  26. @awgonnerman I created an entry in Evernote on 12/4/2013 titled “A Reluctant Atheist” but didn’t add any content. It appears we were #deconstructing around the same time.

  27. This week I wanted to share with you a piece that I originally published on Harbor Online Community's blog. Back in June, we had our first annual in-person retreat in Stony Point, NY.

    I did not expect to make a connection to one of many times I taught an adult "Sunday School" class during my time in the evangelical world.

    open.substack.com/pub/contempl

    #deconstruction #deconstructingfaith #deconstructing #faith #mysticism #contemplativechristianity