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Just installed #OpenBSD on my #Thinkpad #X60 - a very old #32bit laptop. Works fine, still usable for everything except web browsing. OpenBSD has no #firefox or #Chromium in the official repos. For modern web browsing #Dillo or #Netsurf just can't handle the job. I use #suckless #surf web browser but it crashes very often :blobugh:

Just installed #OpenBSD on my #Thinkpad #X60 - a very old #32bit laptop. Works fine, still usable for everything except web browsing. OpenBSD has no #firefox or #Chromium in the official repos. For modern web browsing #Dillo or #Netsurf just can't handle the job. I use #suckless #surf web browser but it crashes very often :blobugh:

Hello from smolfedi on #NetSurf!!

This is the lightest browser I could get working (had auth problems with every other #smol browser I tried).

It kinda lacks keyboard navigation badly (NetSurf, that is), but I'm still liking #SmolFedi a lot, and am looking forward to trying it on my sixteen-year-old #OpenBSD #Thinkpad. ;)

Maybe the excellent #Dillo browser dev can poke at it? ;) @dillo

Installed @adele ‘s #smolfedi in a local VM on #proxmox.

Seen here from #netsurf inside #RiscOS on a :rpi: Pi 3 and I have a fully funcional Fediverse client :-)

#NOJS #smolweb #RetroFutureComputing

@evgandr

Hey bud, IIRC, I couldn't get it working. :/

Looking at my past statuses with the #brutaldon hashtag, it looks like I got it working with #NetSurf and #w3m, but I don't see anything from (nor recall getting it working with) #Dillo. :/

Servo 2025 Stats
https://blogs.igalia.com/mrego/servo-2025-stats/

On this curve we clearly see the drop in contributions following the abandon by Mozilla and the incredible rise since.

2023 was already a better year than 2020, and it was x3 in 2025 compared to Mozilla's period. A beautiful square-root shaped curve : √

Ok it's not ready yet, but a lot of people are rushing toward this goal.

#Servo #webbrowser #browser #firefox #chrome #chromium #mozilla #GoodByMozilla #librewolf #zenbrowser #falkon #waterfox #TorBrowser #vanadium #thorium #vivaldi #helium #brave #edge #opera #safari #orion #ladybird #angelfish #netsurf #dillo #iridium #lynx #w3m

Importantes mejoras en el nuevo CaffeineOS 9317

Esta nueva versión del CaffeineOS (9317) se distribuye como imagen completa y requiere obligatoriamente una instalación desde cero grabando la ISO de nuevo, algo poco habitual y aunque pueda resultar una tocada de webs, sobretodo para quienes tienen su sistema muy configurado por propia cuenta, está totalmente justificado por la profundidad de los cambios introducidos y la reestructuración interna del sistema.

Una de las novedades más relevantes es la incorporación de soporte para FrameThrower, configurable directamente desde el archivo cmdline.txt de emu68, lo que abre la puerta a un manejo más fino del renderizado y el rendimiento gráfico. En paralelo, se introducen dos nuevos lanzadores, Start_Caffeine_OS39Edition.exe y Start_CaffeineOS_ButcherEdition.exe, pensados para facilitar la vida a quienes usan CaffeineOS bajo WinUAE. Estas herramientas se encargan de cerrar instancias activas del emulador si el usuario lo desea, lanzar WinUAE con la configuración correcta, gestionar automáticamente los permisos de administrador y garantizar que el arranque del sistema sea coherente y sin fricciones. Todo el funcionamiento queda documentado en un archivo ReadMe específico incluido en el propio sistema.

El apartado gráfico recibe una atención especial en esta versión. Se actualiza el control del kernel de VideoCore con VC4KernelToggle v1.1, basado en el trabajo original de Michal Schulz, permitiendo un escalado pixel-perfect en resoluciones bajas, accesible tanto desde línea de comandos como desde scripts de arranque. A esto se suma VC4KernelCX, una commodity que automatiza el cambio del escalado del kernel de VideoCore en sistemas emu68 y permite activarlo o desactivarlo incluso mediante una simple combinación de teclas, integrándose de forma elegante en el arranque de Workbench.

Otra incorporación importante es la nueva herramienta de descarga de CaffeineOS, diseñada para gestionar actualizaciones y archivos históricos del sistema. Es especialmente relevante porque la edición TheButcher pasará a distribuirse exclusivamente a través de esta herramienta, que se integra tanto en el sistema como en la barra superior. En la misma línea de facilitar la configuración, se añade un editor gráfico del archivo cmdline.txt de emu68, pensado específicamente para sistemas PiStorm, evitando errores manuales y simplificando ajustes avanzados.

A nivel de configuración interna, se introduce el parámetro avoid_warnings=2, que no solo elimina las superposiciones de advertencia, sino que además permite el uso del modo turbo incluso en situaciones de bajo voltaje, una mejora práctica para determinados montajes. También se han refactorizado numerosas utilidades del sistema: AskReboot se actualiza y añade localización polaca, About pasa a mostrar correctamente la versión de WinUAE y el icono del modelo de Amiga también en sistemas 3.x, Karma, ChangeWPA y SetDayLight reciben revisiones profundas en sus versiones MUI, y este último actualiza la base de datos mundial de zonas horarias y reglas de horario de verano.

El sistema viene además acompañado de nuevo contenido preinstalado que refuerza su carácter “listo para usar”. Se incluyen el mod TERRA de Quake, OutRun Amiga Edition AGA, el paquete AmigaE de Ferry, juegos como CAOS_Pong y CAOS_Breakout, así como nuevas librerías y utilidades como gic400.library y Emu68EDID. Todo ello convive con una larga lista de componentes actualizados: emu68 y emu68_32Lite, OpenURL, NetSurf, AmiSSL, MAME MiniMix, WHDLoad, Curl, HippoPlayer, TuneFinder_MUI y múltiples librerías y dispositivos clave del sistema.

Especial atención merece el trabajo realizado en la pila gráfica y de red. Se actualiza el driver videocore.card para Picasso96, se revisa LoadDB para evitar conflictos con comprobaciones de teclas durante el arranque, y CheckSystem ahora detecta automáticamente la versión de emulation.library para ajustar la configuración adecuada de Picasso96. TCPStackSelector amplía compatibilidad con MiamiDX y genet, reforzando la conectividad.

Por último, en los sistemas Butchered se revisa MCP, que deja de ejecutarse en entornos 3.2.x, y se aplica un parche específico a dopus5.library que modifica múltiples asignaciones de memoria de CHIP a ANY, permitiendo un uso mucho más eficiente de la FAST RAM en tareas como renderizado de iconos, manejo de sprites, buffers de imagen y fondos de escritorio.

Recuerda que para usar CagfeineOS, necesitas tus ROMs originales.

Puedes descargarlo y si quieres, donar una pequeña ayuda para que el gran Pedro Cotter pueda seguir con el proyecto adelante, en la web oficial.

#actualizaciónMayor #amiga #AmigaDevelopment #AmigaGames #amigaos #amissl #CaffeineOS9317 #caffeineos #cleanInstallation #CommodoreAmiga #demoscene #desarrolloAmiga #emu68 #escaladoPixelPerfect #Framethrower #gráficosRTG #herramientasDeLanzamiento #herramientasDelSistema #hippoplayer #imagenISO #instalaciónLimpia #ISOImage #juegosAmiga #launcher #MAMEAmiga #netsurf #networkStack #OutRunAmigaEdition #picasso96 #pilaDeRed #pistorm #pixelPerfectScaling #QuakeAmiga #retroComputing #retroinformática #RTGGraphics #sistemaOperativoAmiga #systemUtilities #VC4Kernel #VideoCore #whdload #winuae

Web browser: MUI version of NetSurf 3.11
Version 3.11 of the NetSurf web browser is available for AmigaOS 3.x in a ReAction variant by Chris Young and in an SDL-based variant by Artur Jarosik. The latter has now also started work on a MUI version, the first releases of which have already been made available in their current state of development.

https://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2025-11-00113-EN.html

#Amiga #AmigaOS3 #MUI #browser #NetSurf

Viewing the PDF version of an html file (sans images) in #Zathura, my favorite keyboard-friendly #PDF reader: 157.5 MiB RAM used
Viewing the same original html file (with images) in #dillo: 40.0 MiB RAM used
in #NetSurf: 74.6 MiB
in #GnomeWeb / #Epiphany: 397.0 MiB (wow, kinda lean!!)
in #Falkon: 541.1 MiB
The same file in #luakit: 623.1 MiB RAM
in #firefox / #LibreWolf: 1.31 GiB (YEP)

RAM usage to display the same single 59.5 KiB html file:

librewolf(firefox): 1,382   MiB
falkon:               891   MiB
luakit:               627   MiB
netsurf:               88.2 MiB
dillo:                 38.0 MiB

#firefox #librewolf #falkon #luakit #netsurf #dillo

Lilbits: A web browser for the reMarkable 2 E Ink tablet, a DIY keyboard phone made from a program Galaxy Z Flip, and more

Last year YouTuber Marcin Plaza built an ultrawide handheld computer with a clamshell design, a QWERTY keyboard, and SteamOS software and called it “a DIY Steam Deck Thingy.” And earlier this year Plaza upgraded that thingy by adding a desktop graphics card.

Plaza’s latest project is something different… although it still has a QWERTY keyboard. It’s a DIY smartphone made by repurposing the […]

#aaeon #ai #bananaPi #bananaPiBpiF5 #bpiB5 #devBoard #diyPhone #eInkTablet #gpd #gpdWin5 #lilbits #marcinPlaza #netsurf #remarkable2 #samsungGalaxyZFlip #sbc #upBoard

Read more: https://liliputing.com/lilbits-a-web-browser-for-the-remarkable-2-e-ink-tablet-a-diy-keyboard-phone-made-from-a-program-galaxy-z-flip-and-more/

Lilbits: A web browser for the reMarkable 2 E Ink tablet, a DIY keyboard phone made from a program Galaxy Z Flip, and more

Last year YouTuber Marcin Plaza built an ultrawide handheld computer with a clamshell design, a QWERTY keyboard, and SteamOS software and called it “a DIY Steam Deck Thingy.” And earlier this year Plaza upgraded that thingy by adding a desktop graphics card.

Plaza’s latest project is something different… although it still has a QWERTY keyboard. It’s a DIY smartphone made by repurposing the […]

#aaeon #ai #bananaPi #bananaPiBpiF5 #bpiB5 #devBoard #diyPhone #eInkTablet #gpd #gpdWin5 #lilbits #marcinPlaza #netsurf #remarkable2 #samsungGalaxyZFlip #sbc #upBoard

Read more: https://liliputing.com/lilbits-a-web-browser-for-the-remarkable-2-e-ink-tablet-a-diy-keyboard-phone-made-from-a-program-galaxy-z-flip-and-more/

Lilbits: A web browser for the reMarkable 2 E Ink tablet, a DIY keyboard phone made from a program Galaxy Z Flip, and more

Last year YouTuber Marcin Plaza built an ultrawide handheld computer with a clamshell design, a QWERTY keyboard, and SteamOS software and called it “a DIY Steam Deck Thingy.” And earlier this year Plaza upgraded that thingy by adding a desktop graphics card.

Plaza’s latest project is something different… although it still has a QWERTY keyboard. It’s a DIY smartphone made by repurposing the […]

#aaeon #ai #bananaPi #bananaPiBpiF5 #bpiB5 #devBoard #diyPhone #eInkTablet #gpd #gpdWin5 #lilbits #marcinPlaza #netsurf #remarkable2 #samsungGalaxyZFlip #sbc #upBoard

Read more: https://liliputing.com/lilbits-a-web-browser-for-the-remarkable-2-e-ink-tablet-a-diy-keyboard-phone-made-from-a-program-galaxy-z-flip-and-more/

Lilbits: A web browser for the reMarkable 2 E Ink tablet, a DIY keyboard phone made from a program Galaxy Z Flip, and more

Last year YouTuber Marcin Plaza built an ultrawide handheld computer with a clamshell design, a QWERTY keyboard, and SteamOS software and called it “a DIY Steam Deck Thingy.” And earlier this year Plaza upgraded that thingy by adding a desktop graphics card.

Plaza’s latest project is something different… although it still has a QWERTY keyboard. It’s a DIY smartphone made by repurposing the […]

#aaeon #ai #bananaPi #bananaPiBpiF5 #bpiB5 #devBoard #diyPhone #eInkTablet #gpd #gpdWin5 #lilbits #marcinPlaza #netsurf #remarkable2 #samsungGalaxyZFlip #sbc #upBoard

Read more: https://liliputing.com/lilbits-a-web-browser-for-the-remarkable-2-e-ink-tablet-a-diy-keyboard-phone-made-from-a-program-galaxy-z-flip-and-more/

The reMarkable 2 is a writing tablet with an E Ink display and a custom Linux-based operating system. It's not designed to run third-party apps like web browsers, but this guide explains how to load the lightweight Netsurf browser. https://akselmo.dev/posts/netsurf-on-remarkable-2/ #netsurf #remarkable2 #EInkTablet

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Big news in the #BashCore project: introducing #BashCoreLX — the same minimal, powerful BashCore, now with a lightweight #LXDE graphical interface!
Tested on my old machine: just 300MB RAM on boot.
Hoping to release a public ISO soon using live-build!

It’ll include all BashCore tools +
#Wireshark #OWASPZAP #BurpSuite #FernWiFiCracker #FirefoxESR #Netsurf

#Linux #Pentesting #CyberSecurity #LightweightLinux #InfoSec #LiveISO

Big news in the #BashCore project: introducing #BashCoreLX — the same minimal, powerful BashCore, now with a lightweight #LXDE graphical interface!
Tested on my old machine: just 300MB RAM on boot.
Hoping to release a public ISO soon using live-build!

It’ll include all BashCore tools +
#Wireshark #OWASPZAP #BurpSuite #FernWiFiCracker #FirefoxESR #Netsurf

#Linux #Pentesting #CyberSecurity #LightweightLinux #InfoSec #LiveISO

@4bz i liked #ploum's essay about the two webs:
https://ploum.net/2023-08-01-splitting-the-web.html

i think it makes sense to resort tl a shitty web browser for the shitty JS-powered capitalist web; and whenever possible use #ytdlp or #tubular for hostile sites like #youtube;

and then use other web browsers (or rss readers, or ...) for the enjoyable web. those web browsers might not even need JS. these include #offpunk, #lynx, #netsurf, #dillo, #links, #edbrowse, #librera, #eww.

@dillo What do you think of adding an optional #QuickJS engine like #Netsurf?

Gosh I needed such a random unimportant wild bug chase today! Finding a painless workaround to the preferences bug made my day. Some people play games, some dig memes. I get my fix via not understanding the basics; being hopeless endless noob. For a second decade now too 🙃😁😂
Cheers #freebsd #netsurf #twm #xorg #gtk

@tux0r Do you have JS enabled in #NetSurf? It uses #Duktape engine, so it's experimental. Almost all web apps need JS to run, in contrast to web pages.

After a search in the NetBSD packages for lightweight web browsers, the winners are: vimb, dillo, luakit and netsurf.

Dillo's new release 3.1.0 still hasn't landed, so no HTTPS there. Luakit is very neat, extremely lightweight, minimal, has vim-like bindings and would be perfect if it weren't for the constant white flashing between each pageload when using a custom, darker CSS. NetSurf is also quite neat, with tab support for heavier sessions.

The winner for me is vimb, which although leaving tabs to the window manager, has vim-like bindings, is pretty minimal and does not cause flashing when switching between pages on a custom darker CSS setting.

Honor mention to Arctic Fox, a Pale Moon clone that hits peak nostalgia with the pre-omnibar Firefox look. No theming, not as lightweight, but going strong at 29.5k commits since 2018.

#netbsd #bsd #vimb #dillo #luakit #netsurf #arcticfox #firefox #browsers

Replaced old #ThinkPad T41 broken hinge. With 2GB of RAM and a 1.6Gz Pentium M, realistic software options are... limited

Installed the latest #NetBSD 10_BETA, then used #pkgin to see about basic web browsers

#netsurf - fastest way for basic webpages

#ArcticFox - hits the sweet spot for older/constrained machines

#Firefox - 92 is almost usable in 2G, 102... not so much. I stopped there :)

For its time (2003) the T41 is an amazing laptop. Plus that screen ratio #chefskiss

#retrocomputing

@dnsprincess: #Chromium (i.e. not Chrome but its #FLOSS base) as my 1st browser and #qutebrowser by @the_compiler as my 2nd. And #TorBrowser.

Before #Mozilla killed a whole FLOSS ecosystem when they removed #XULRunner from Firefox, I mostly used #Conkeror.

On a text terminal I use #Links2 and #Lynx, sometimes even #w3m or #ELinks.

On low-end devices I use #Dillo and #Netsurf.

(On a side note: I also wrote an article about low-end web browsers — in German, though: https://www.linux-community.de/ausgaben/linuxuser/2016/02/abgespeckt/)

@b847c1960 Tried #NetSurf yesterday – just “make” worked OOTB, very fast start-up, and very lean on RAM (~30MB vs ~300MB for #Firefox). 👌🏽

It needed a patch for GTK first though, the UI is still broken at places, rendering of ligatures faulty, and many web-sites seem broken. 🙁

So… #Elinks still seems to be better for quick look-ups. 😐

The latest #GIMP stable release seemed to work quite well for my little use-cases. 🤷🏽‍♂️

(I compile and tweak almost everything for my system.)

@Blort #visurf is based on #netsurf, which has its own layout engine. #Qutebrowser is based on #QtWebEngine (from Chromium); I'm not sure how separate the QtWebEngine and Chromium are at this point (the "spawn" question is maybe interesting to consider more).

Neither meets the requirements you listed yet, but both have a plausible claim to doing so in the future. Maybe worth using them and contributing to them, I'd say. (I'm not affiliated with either project in any way).