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Viewing the PDF version of an html file (sans images) in #Zathura, my favorite keyboard-friendly #PDF reader: 157.5 MiB RAM used
Viewing the same original html file (with images) in #dillo: 40.0 MiB RAM used
in #NetSurf: 74.6 MiB
in #GnomeWeb / #Epiphany: 397.0 MiB (wow, kinda lean!!)
in #Falkon: 541.1 MiB
The same file in #luakit: 623.1 MiB RAM
in #firefox / #LibreWolf: 1.31 GiB (YEP)

I can't believe it myself, but yes, I've made #Dillo my default browser on my personal laptops. It's never been my default, even though I've used it occasionally, off-and-on, for 25 years. XD

I still fire up #LibreWolf (#firefox fork) occasionally on those machines, but #DilloBrowser fits in this neat space between terminal browsers and "full-fat" browsers like Librewolf and #luakit.

I'm just wishing it had a "follow mode" for following links from the keyboard, and wondering if there was some way to make it use the clipboard by default, instead of primary selection. I don't quite understand why classic X11 programs use primary selection so much. XD

#SmolWeb

RAM usage to display the same single 59.5 KiB html file:

librewolf(firefox): 1,382   MiB
falkon:               891   MiB
luakit:               627   MiB
netsurf:               88.2 MiB
dillo:                 38.0 MiB

#firefox #librewolf #falkon #luakit #netsurf #dillo

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

Trying browser alternatives...

#Dillo: the GOAT. Very basic, but crazy fast. Lacks modern less/vi-style keyboard navigation
Update: Dillo's keybinds are pretty flexible, and the config files is pretty easy to understand. #TIL!!
#NetSurf: a bit more compatible with the modern web, pretty comfy to use, but also lacking the keyboard navigation features I'm really used to and loving in plugins like Vimium
#LuaKit: #WebKit-based. Capable and modern, yet fairly lightweight. The scrollbar is an abomination, though. What even is that? iOS?!? Also, turning off JS turns off a lot of features in the browser, last time I tried it
#XLinks: lacks CSS, but is very usable for basic sites. Keybinds are nonstandard, but usable
#chawan: probably the best terminal browser out there I've seen so far, but sometimes you really want a graphical browser with terminal-ish features, instead

P.S., Thanks to @evgandr, I have learned that you can customize #DilloBrowser's keybinds! Fantastic stuff!!

New #blog post: My Favorite GUI Programs, Part II

https://rldane.space/my-favorite-gui-programs-part-ii.html

554 words

cc: my wonderful #chorus: @joel @dm @sotolf @thedoctor @pixx @orbitalmartian @adamsdesk @krafter @roguefoam @clayton @giantspacesquid @Twizzay @stfn

(I will happily add/remove you from the chorus upon request! :)

#100DaysToOffload #47

#rlDaneWriting #blost #writing #GUI #Zathura #pwmt #nsxiv #sxiv (not actually) #suckless #luakit #qutebrowser

The PC is now running #Garuda #Linux, which means it's still running #ArchLinux. However, some oddities are annoying. #luakit doesn't want to learn other search engines, but what's particularly annoying is that abbreviations, or letter shortcuts, can no longer be defined with #autokey. When I click "OK" in the corresponding dialog window, nothing happens. Hotkeys, however, can be configured. I don't get it. #Arch

Der PC läuft nun mit #Garuda #Linux, also weiterhin mit #ArchLinux. Einige Merkwürdigkeiten nerven jedoch. #luakit will keine anderen Suchmaschinen lernen, aber besonders übel ist, dass sich bei #autokey keine Abbreviations, also Buchstabenkürzel, mehr definieren lassen. Beim Klick auf "OK" im zugehörigen Dialogfenster passiert einfach nichts. Hotkeys hingegen lassen sich einstellen. Kapiere ich nicht. #Arch

@alcinnz @lapisdecor @dillo

Yeah, it's a pity that there's no way to get to #WebKit through #Qt anymore. Somewhat ironic, since Webkit was forked from from #Konqueror, which was a #KDE project built on Qt.

There's also #Suckless Surf as an über-minimalistic browser (not too bad as an #SSB, honestly), but it's not a serious contender for daily driving. I don't even daily drive #LuaKit, and I love vim-style programs.

After a search in the NetBSD packages for lightweight web browsers, the winners are: vimb, dillo, luakit and netsurf.

Dillo's new release 3.1.0 still hasn't landed, so no HTTPS there. Luakit is very neat, extremely lightweight, minimal, has vim-like bindings and would be perfect if it weren't for the constant white flashing between each pageload when using a custom, darker CSS. NetSurf is also quite neat, with tab support for heavier sessions.

The winner for me is vimb, which although leaving tabs to the window manager, has vim-like bindings, is pretty minimal and does not cause flashing when switching between pages on a custom darker CSS setting.

Honor mention to Arctic Fox, a Pale Moon clone that hits peak nostalgia with the pre-omnibar Firefox look. No theming, not as lightweight, but going strong at 29.5k commits since 2018.

#netbsd #bsd #vimb #dillo #luakit #netsurf #arcticfox #firefox #browsers

The Luakit version in the Debian Bookworm repo seems a lot more usable than the one I used with Debian Bullseye? Very cool!

Would be even cooler if I could use vimb on Debian, but can't get it compiled.

#luakit #webbrowser #vimb

As much as I am loathe to enable the #Blink #hegemony of the #web, I gotta say that #qutebrowser is pretty dadgum fly.

I don't use it all the time, but when I want to do some tasks with the web and other purely keyboard-oriented things, it's just fantastic.

I like #luakit and #vimb as well, but typing something like fkhj is so much easer than f239 (to follow links / activate form fields).

I just wish there was a way to make it emulate a mouse hover.

Ich glaube ich werde mir im Laufe der nächsten Tage nochmal den Min Browser anschauen...

https://minbrowser.org/

Die ganzen Microbrowser, die ich vor paar Jahren noch kannte und gern genutzt habe (#luakit, #uzbl, #dwb,...) sind ja leider irgendwie schon abgehängt oder werden nicht mehr weiterentwickelt oder können keine Plugins (Werbeblocker!).

#minbrowser

Ich glaube ich werde mir im Laufe der nächsten Tage nochmal den Min Browser anschauen...

https://minbrowser.org/

Die ganzen Microbrowser, die ich vor paar Jahren noch kannte und gern genutzt habe (#luakit, #uzbl, #dwb,...) sind ja leider irgendwie schon abgehängt oder werden nicht mehr weiterentwickelt oder können keine Plugins (Werbeblocker!).

#minbrowser