#creationist — Public Fediverse posts

#SciFi #AlexisGililand 's #Rosinante series include an upheaval in the #NorthAmericanUnion (which did not extend so far as the island of #Venezuela ) including the #assassination of a #Latino #Hispanic #Texan politician using a #CruiseMissile during a #PressConference .
It was not held out as a clever act by the #Creationist #Christians in government

Press conferences may have got more dangerous.

When #Satire Exposes #AntiScience Arguments: #SachaBaronCohen vs #KentHovind

#AtheistHumor #ScienceSatire #EvolutionDebate

In this classic clip, Sacha Baron Cohen's character #AliG masterfully exposes the flaws in #creationist arguments through satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsTVdE69Q4

The Worst #Christian on #YouTube is... A #Puppet?

Today we're challenging a rude yet intellectually lacking #creationist Christian #contentcreator. He doesn't #respect the burden of proof, doesn't respect women and worst of all... he's hiding his horrible arguments behind a puppet. Oh, Hell no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNBe76rUV9M

#sundayschool #atheist #atheism #emathorne

#Kibitzing a bad #creationist #debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDUDWzOJCkM
PZ Myers

The Twin Cities #CreationScience Association sponsored a debate between #BrianLauer, creationist, and #MarkReid, sensible normal human being. Reid was fine, but Lauer's arguments, or lack thereof, compelled me to criticize him.

#science #creationism #ID #evolution #badscience

#Creationist Takes on #Scientific Legend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk40V_r4kAI
#carlsagan #kenthovind #science

#Missionary #Lizards!

How many ignorant claims can a #creationist pack into a short clip?

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2025/05/06/missionary-lizards/

Is this a Christian equivalent of "flatearthers from around the globe..."?

#MiniDinos #Christian #Bible #Creationist #Evolution

Genesis is historical... (!?!) It is!

The Bible explains how Adam's sin-nature is passed on to us. Sin corrupts our bodies and our world by dividing us from good and uniting us to evil. Scripture shows how we can overcome sin through unity with God and godly people.

The first thing that clued me in on the truth of Genesis, was Jesus' use of the text as literal facts. (Matthew 19:3-9) We inherit sin from Adam, because we are all part of him. We are also part of the classroom of life, in whatever condition it is handed down to us by our predecessors. (Exodus 20:5)

God was Adam's Father. The earth was Adam's mother. (Genesis 2:7, Isaiah 51:1-2, Romans 8:22) Eden was man's first classroom. The goal of this classroom was to teach us how to love. God's flawless, delightful love is what makes Him eternal.

From Adam, God made Eve. She was one with Adam and given back to Adam in a more helpful capacity. They were still one. This is the ultimate goal of our eternal lessons; they teach us how to remain one with God and one another.

The thing that destroys unity is sin. Sin doesn't cause God to abandon us, Sin is an act of abandoning unity with God and man in favor of oneself. Once sin was in the world, Adam and Eve began covering themselves from one another, and hiding from God. (Genesis 3:8-10) Division from God, who is love, results in death. (1 John 4:7-8, Romans 6:23, Jeremiah 3:19)

Sin added new lessons to our classroom. We were no longer fit for Eden. We learned about the problems we'd given God with our sin. Adam's lesson required more of his labor to make the earth produce good things. This gave humanity God's perspective. Our deviation from unity made it hard for God to make us produce good behavior. Eve's lesson required her to experience more pain to bear children. This reflects how we made God's work to deliver us from spiritual darkness more painful for Him. Our offenses against God and the earth change our environment to fit our need. Our lessons give us wisdom to see why sinful behavior cannot be part of eternity. Proverbs 30:17. Any logic we hold that does not promote eternal life is unsustainable, and therefore sin.

According to ancient Hebrew wisdom, you and I are living in the last age. We live in a world where our classroom has changed so much that Eden is hardly imaginable. A world without death is imaginable, but only for the elite. Even if we could live forever by the power of technology, without love, it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Thankfully, our heavenly Father is still teaching us. We still begin life helpless. This connects us to our parents through our conscience. This is how God implants in every person the value of compassion for the weak. We each know, deep down that we owe our lives to a helpful higher power. If we are thankful, we want to emulate our helpful higher power while we can. We can ask God for His Holy Spirit of truth and love. (Luke 11:9-13) Then we nurture His Spirit within us by a steady diet of His good logic in the Bible. (1Peter 2:2) This gives our heavenly Father influence in our lives, so He can empower us to help others. (Acts 10:44) In this way, we will overcome the lies of the enemy, and the world. (1John 4:4)

To overcome sin, we need only to reunite with God and one another. Compassionate love is the answer to our struggle against sin. We can ask for God's compassionate love to free us from temptation. We can also pay that love forward by helping the weak and needy. When we do these things, Eden is reborn in our hearts.

Closing thoughts -

1 Corinthians 10:13

"No temptation has come upon you except what is common to humanity. But God is faithful; he will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able. With the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, so that you may be able to bear it."

"When I don't have an ounce of strength left in me to withstand a temptation, I remember this simple prayer; "Lord, Your word promises there is a way out of this, but I don't see it. Please show me the way." Our merciful Father has never failed to deliver on this promise. Our God is a God of miracle-working power.

John 17:21
"I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me."

It's so easy to accidentally give the world and the flesh more air-time than God and family. Setting aside time for God is the healthiest thing a person can do for their life. Reconnecting with our spiritual family is our second priority. So much of what we are tempted with, is only troubling us because we forget what's real and what matters. A spiritual diet that is high in truth and love will keep you satisfied. That way spiritual junk food doesn't have as much appeal.

May truth and love light our way!

#Christianity #Family #Homeschool #Jesus #JesusChrist #Creationist #Christian

"The Word" is a free Windows app I use on Linux through "Wine" to show me all the scripture references in real time. SELECT, then COPY, to activate the pop-up. https://www.theword.net

15/20 Alan Gratz: Amy und die geheime Bibliothek. Übersetzt aus dem Englischen von Meritxell Janina Piel

Alan Gratz: Ban this book

#Books #Libraries #ArtistsFreedom #Censorship #Culture #Emancipation #Creationist #Evangelical #Democracy #ReadingAsEntertainment #ReadingAsPoliticisingExperience #ComingOfAge #YoungReaders #10YearsOldPlus #PowerInSchool #Librarian #BookBan #BanThisBook #AlanGratz

Book Challenge: 20 books that have had an impact on who you are. One book a day for 20 days. No (or only very short) explanations, no reviews, just the title and the book covers. Don't forget the alt text.
#20books #20books20days #20Bücher #BooksThatInfluencedYou #Books #20booksMupan #BookChallengeMupan #MediaMupan
@lesekreis @[email protected] @[email protected] @buchstodon @democracy @books @biodiversity

📢New Publication Alert!

🔖'Reign of the Beast' by Adrian Desmond is out now!

🔎In the 1830s, decades before #Darwin published the 'Origin of Species', a museum of evolution flourished in #London. 'Reign of the Beast' pieces together the extraordinary story of this lost working-man's institution and its enigmatic owner, the wine merchant #WDSaull. Saull outraged polite #society by putting humanity’s #ape #ancestry on display.

He weaponized his #museum #fossils & empowered #artisans with knowledge of deep #geological time that undermined the #Creationist base of the #Anglican state. His geology museum called the biggest in Britain, housed over 20,000 fossils, including famous dinosaurs.

Now multi-award-winning author Adrian Desmond undertakes a thorough reading of #HomeOffice spy reports and subversive street prints to re-establish Saull's pivotal place at the intersection of the history of #geology, #atheism, #socialism, & #working-class #radicalism.

Access https://www.openbookpublishers.com/books/10.11647/obp.0393

Recently I wrote, and then copy-and-pasted to a variety of places, about how #creationist and other #antiscience #propaganda is often “horrible effective.” That was supposed to be “horribly effective,” of course. On #Facebook and #Quora I can edit it, but on #Mastodon I can’t.

So I think I’ll just leave it in place. It has the ring of a missing couplet from #Kipling’s #Tommy: “Ken ‘Am’s lies is bloomin’ everywhere / An’ ‘orrible effective too!” Seems like it fits my life.

@fatsam Thanks for the boost!

I’ve received a lot of comments on this post, in various locations, to the effect of “don’t bother, you’re never going to convince these people anyway.” So this is a copy-and-paste reply. My apologies for the impersonality, and please don’t take this as a lack of interest in discussing the finer points of the issue.

Absolutely, there are many people who will never be convinced. I think there are, more or less, three types of people who hold #antivax / #creationist / etc. positions, and two of them are hopeless cases. But the third is a different story.

1. Hardcore believers. For #creationism, this usually boils down to “God said it, I believe it, that settles it.” The others are more complicated, although there’s often a religious element there too: e.g. “we’re made in the image of God so #vaccines are blasphemy” (they never seem to object to wearing glasses, though) or “the Earth is a divine creation and we mere humans could never change the #climate.” Once they make their beliefs clear, the best thing to do is walk away. No one in that debate is going to change anyone else’s mind.

2. Propagandists. They may or may not believe what they’re claiming, but they think they can gain some political advantage by doing so. “If you don’t want #woke #liberals telling your kids they come from #monkeys, elect me to the school board!” That kind of thing. You’re not going to change their minds either—especially since the #propaganda is often horrible effective—but it may be worth countering it to try to persuade the people they’re trying to recruit.

3. People who just don’t know any better. Members of the first two groups, particularly #2, are much more sophisticated than they used to be, and a lot of their propaganda is very slick and superficially convincing. So a lot of people with little #scientific #education (or bad science education: that’s a separate post or ten) fall for it. The longer they believe it, the more resistant they get to alternatives—they can slide into #1 very easily. But if you can catch them at a critical moment, you can sometimes bring them around.

I know this is possible, because I’ve done it. Not often, and less often lately, with the hardening of political identities and the ever-stronger association of profoundly anti-scientific views with one political identity in particular. But it still happens now and then.

Of course if you assume everyone is in group #3, you’ll waste a lot of time and energy on 1s and 2s. It’s really dispiriting to put effort into a clear, simple explanation presented with tolerance and good humor, only to be met with dismissal or mockery or baffled rage. Telling the difference is a survival skill, and a tough one to learn.

No one should feel obligated to tackle every case they encounter, or even most cases. That’s a game for the very young, and if you play too much of it you’ll get old before your time. (Trust me on this.) But when you can … well, sometimes you win. Those small victories feel pretty good. I have to believe they still matter.

I’ve received a lot of comments on this post, in various locations, to the effect of “don’t bother, you’re never going to convince these people anyway.” So this is a copy-and-paste reply. My apologies for the impersonality, and please don’t take this as a lack of interest in discussing the finer points of the issue.

Absolutely, there are many people who will never be convinced. I think there are, more or less, three types of people who hold #antivax / #creationist / etc. positions, and two of them are hopeless cases. But the third is a different story.

1. Hardcore believers. For #creationism, this usually boils down to “God said it, I believe it, that settles it.” The others are more complicated, although there’s often a religious element there too: e.g. “we’re made in the image of God so #vaccines are blasphemy” (they never seem to object to wearing glasses, though) or “the Earth is a divine creation and we mere humans could never change the #climate.” Once they make their beliefs clear, the best thing to do is walk away. No one in that debate is going to change anyone else’s mind.

2. Propagandists. They may or may not believe what they’re claiming, but they think they can gain some political advantage by doing so. “If you don’t want #woke #liberals telling your kids they come from #monkeys, elect me to the school board!” That kind of thing. You’re not going to change their minds either—especially since the #propaganda is often horrible effective—but it may be worth countering it to try to persuade the people they’re trying to recruit.

3. People who just don’t know any better. Members of the first two groups, particularly #2, are much more sophisticated than they used to be, and a lot of their propaganda is very slick and superficially convincing. So a lot of people with little #scientific #education (or bad science education: that’s a separate post or ten) fall for it. The longer they believe it, the more resistant they get to alternatives—they can slide into #1 very easily. But if you can catch them at a critical moment, you can sometimes bring them around.

I know this is possible, because I’ve done it. Not often, and less often lately, with the hardening of political identities and the ever-stronger association of profoundly anti-scientific views with one political identity in particular. But it still happens now and then.

Of course if you assume everyone is in group #3, you’ll waste a lot of time and energy on 1s and 2s. It’s really dispiriting to put effort into a clear, simple explanation presented with tolerance and good humor, only to be met with dismissal or mockery or baffled rage. Telling the difference is a survival skill, and a tough one to learn.

No one should feel obligated to tackle every case they encounter, or even most cases. That’s a game for the very young, and if you play too much of it you’ll get old before your time. (Trust me on this.) But when you can … well, sometimes you win. Those small victories feel pretty good. I have to believe they still matter.

Revealed: House speaker did little to fight #toxic ‘#burnpit’ his father campaigned against
#MikeJohnson’s #creationist beliefs clash with #environmental realities in a district where many residents hold deep concerns about #pollution
A terse back and forth followed between #SpeakerJohnson and his father, his stepmother said. “He just wasn’t interested,” she said. “He had other things to do. He was never interested in environmental things.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/13/mike-johnson-creationist-beliefs-clash-with-climate-facts

Earlier in the sermon, #House #Speaker #MikeJohnson discussed the necessity of a #creationist view of life. “If [#evolution] is true, there really probably isn’t a God anyway, right? There really isn’t a *creator,” (*see his first speech as speaker yesterday) #Johnson said. “So remember when the founders said ‘God’s up here & he’s transcendent & all men are down here.’ Well [academics] just erased God from the equation entirely.”

#Dinosaur denier #AllieBethStuckey interviewed dinosaur liar #KenHam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTpi2bhP6s
#creationist #conservative #crazy

For some who's beliefs are truly #flatearth and #creationist - maybe they should re-think using tech that doesn't conform to their cosmology.

B/C the physics that makes iPhones "go" says that the #cosmos is very old.

I can't believe I answer this question every so often. (Post below.)

#exvangelical #orphangelical #church

https://exvangelical.substack.com/p/the-power-of-political-self-justification

#WND (originally an initialism for #WorldNetDaily, or as it was affectionately known to its fans as WingNutDaily or WhirledNutDaily) is a far-right webshite founded by the impressively mustachioed Joseph Farah in 1997 as a project of his "Western Center for Journalism". The site espouses a #fundamentalist, #Christian, #creationist worldview with a healthy dose of #jingoism, and its coverage provides multiple sides of issues: the very #conservative viewpoint and the ultra-conservative viewpoint. Basically, it makes Fox News look positively moonbatty in comparison.

While they present themselves as news, WND is basically a tabloid for radical right-wingers. Their publishing standards are rock-bottom, and they have run stories from extremely questionable sources on many, many occasions. It's also one of the earliest and longest-running publishers of Ann Coulter's insipid columns…

#RationalWiki #josephfarah
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

Watching my son come up with all these elaborate theories about how the tooth fairy can walk through walls but isn't a ghost, but also how garden fairies aren't real but the tooth fairy is... really puts me in mind of myself when I was a young earth #creationist.

I admit it, I'm a #creationist. Or maybe that's reverse creationist. I believe that man created #god.

I met a #creationist who claimed to be a medical doctor. He said cancer was caused by chemicals and nuclear power plants made by humans, and when I asked him if there was cancer before modern technology, he answered "I don't know, I wasn't there to see it".

“If evolution is true, the church is false” Joseph Fielding Smith, Mormon Church Historian and Prophet and Church President

Find the full article and more quotes at: https://wasmormon.org/if-evolution-is-true-the-church-is-false/ #exmormon
#mormon #lds #ldschurch #josephfieldingsmith #wasmormon #evolution #church #creationist #faithcrisis #ldsprophet

Kent E. Hovind (or, to use his full former academic title Kent E. Hovind, inmate #06452-017) (1953–) is a young Earth #creationist, promoter of imminent millennialism, con man, professional liar, and convicted felon.

Hovind promotes Young Earth creationist and #Christian #dominionist views in lectures and videos sold or publicized through his Creation Science Evangelism organization (despite having no legitimate degree).

Hovind created The Hovind "Theory" to explain how the global flood got all the water — namely, a comet did it. Hovind then proceeded to ignore all scientific evidence on dinosaurs gathered this side of 1960. Not satisfied with this record of failure, in 2001, Hovind started Dinosaur Adventure Land, an amusement park in his backyard.

#RationalWiki #kenthovind #youngearth #taxfraud #SovereignCitizen #dinosauradventureland
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind #mailfraud #DomesticViolence #IndependentBaptist

@UnlikelyWorlds
Ah, I wish I were still in contact with my old original #creationist interlocutor (back circa 1999) so he could comment. Is the ICR still going?

There is claim that repeatedly pops up in #creationist writing about how the “French Academy of Science” in 1861 published a list of 51 scientific facts that disproved the Bible. The claim continues that all 51 of those facts have now been debunked. This claim never includes any citation or list of what those 51 facts supposedly were.

The most recent creationist to make this claim is Paul Batura at #FocusOnTheFamily, as reported by the Sensuous Curmudgeon (https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2022/12/28/the-james-webb-space-telescope-proves-the-bible/).

(Con'd…)