#creationism — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #creationism, aggregated by home.social.
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#ShortBreak #shorts #DoomScrollBreak #CarlSagan #HawkPodcasts #duet #evolution #creationism
From the comments in YT: "Remember when… people just spoke eloquently in full and complete thought without being trampled by angry crows who don’t know what they’re talking about?"
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#ShortBreak #shorts #DoomScrollBreak #CarlSagan #HawkPodcasts #duet #evolution #creationism
From the comments in YT: "Remember when… people just spoke eloquently in full and complete thought without being trampled by angry crows who don’t know what they’re talking about?"
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#ShortBreak #shorts #DoomScrollBreak #CarlSagan #HawkPodcasts #duet #evolution #creationism
From the comments in YT: "Remember when… people just spoke eloquently in full and complete thought without being trampled by angry crows who don’t know what they’re talking about?"
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#ShortBreak #shorts #DoomScrollBreak #CarlSagan #HawkPodcasts #duet #evolution #creationism
From the comments in YT: "Remember when… people just spoke eloquently in full and complete thought without being trampled by angry crows who don’t know what they’re talking about?"
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#ShortBreak #shorts #DoomScrollBreak #CarlSagan #HawkPodcasts #duet #evolution #creationism
From the comments in YT: "Remember when… people just spoke eloquently in full and complete thought without being trampled by angry crows who don’t know what they’re talking about?"
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CW: Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.~The Guardian
This is 3 months old but I missed it.
“Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.”Hilarious but also terrifying.
“The conference featured a presentation by the Answers in Genesis’ director of research, Australian geologist Andrew Snelling.
“Those present say Snelling told them the radiometric dating techniques used by mainstream scientists to show fossils and rocks are millions of years old were flawed. He said the Himalayas were formed by the “great flood”, and that juvenile vegetarian dinosaurs had been on the ark.
#auspol #creationism #noahsArk #Dinosaurs #MiniatureAnimals #Christians #PrivateSchools #Queensland #Snelling #OpenBrethren
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CW: Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.~The Guardian
This is 3 months old but I missed it.
“Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.”Hilarious but also terrifying.
“The conference featured a presentation by the Answers in Genesis’ director of research, Australian geologist Andrew Snelling.
“Those present say Snelling told them the radiometric dating techniques used by mainstream scientists to show fossils and rocks are millions of years old were flawed. He said the Himalayas were formed by the “great flood”, and that juvenile vegetarian dinosaurs had been on the ark.
#auspol #creationism #noahsArk #Dinosaurs #MiniatureAnimals #Christians #PrivateSchools #Queensland #Snelling #OpenBrethren
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CW: Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.~The Guardian
This is 3 months old but I missed it.
“Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.”Hilarious but also terrifying.
“The conference featured a presentation by the Answers in Genesis’ director of research, Australian geologist Andrew Snelling.
“Those present say Snelling told them the radiometric dating techniques used by mainstream scientists to show fossils and rocks are millions of years old were flawed. He said the Himalayas were formed by the “great flood”, and that juvenile vegetarian dinosaurs had been on the ark.
#auspol #creationism #noahsArk #Dinosaurs #MiniatureAnimals #Christians #PrivateSchools #Queensland #Snelling #OpenBrethren
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CW: Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.~The Guardian
This is 3 months old but I missed it.
“Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.”Hilarious but also terrifying.
“The conference featured a presentation by the Answers in Genesis’ director of research, Australian geologist Andrew Snelling.
“Those present say Snelling told them the radiometric dating techniques used by mainstream scientists to show fossils and rocks are millions of years old were flawed. He said the Himalayas were formed by the “great flood”, and that juvenile vegetarian dinosaurs had been on the ark.
#auspol #creationism #noahsArk #Dinosaurs #MiniatureAnimals #Christians #PrivateSchools #Queensland #Snelling #OpenBrethren
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CW: Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark.~The Guardian
This is 3 months old but I missed it.
“Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.”Hilarious but also terrifying.
“The conference featured a presentation by the Answers in Genesis’ director of research, Australian geologist Andrew Snelling.
“Those present say Snelling told them the radiometric dating techniques used by mainstream scientists to show fossils and rocks are millions of years old were flawed. He said the Himalayas were formed by the “great flood”, and that juvenile vegetarian dinosaurs had been on the ark.
#auspol #creationism #noahsArk #Dinosaurs #MiniatureAnimals #Christians #PrivateSchools #Queensland #Snelling #OpenBrethren
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Ateismul și satanismul merg mână în mână Se transformă ateismul într-un nou cult idolatru? 👉 https://c.aparatorul.md/1gube 👈 #analize #Ateism #Creaţionism #cumaînceputviațapePământ #Dumnezeu #onouăreligiepseudoștiințifică #origineavieţiipePământ #Studiu #unnouobiectdecult
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Another zine completed: "flying creatures of the fifth day", based on a creationist textbook with the same title.
The most difficult part of making this one was narrowing down the material to include (sadly, the explanation of pterosaurs and how they went extinct after the great flood did not make it in. It'll have to go into a vol. 2).
The textbook really is child abuse. There are plenty of facts about wings and feathers and lift, and other facts about insect anatomy and things like that, but everything discussed in the book is "designed by God for its special purpose" in an "orderly creation" with the beauty of biology acting as evidence of God's great wisdom. Things aren't themselves, they are the means by which the reader is meant to see how wise and powerful God is.
Sadly, a little section of the part about feathers hadn't gotten glued properly across the center fold and I only noticed that it had folded over after making all the 11x17 color copies at $1.43 a piece 😭. I think it's still mostly readable (you can see it in pic 2).
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Spread the word! This is copy of a comment from latest GutsickGibbon livestream on YouTube.
If you’ve ever wanted to flush the “If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” argument down the evolutionary toilet once and for all, this is for you.
July 2nd is International Why Do British People Exist? Day
That’s right. We’re turning one of creationism’s most brainless gotchas into a full-blown satire holiday.
The basic idea:
“If white Americans came from British people, why are there still British people?”
It’s not just a joke (though it is a pretty good joke). it’s a meme-powered push to retire this specific brand of anti-intellectual nonsense from public discourse.What You Can Do:
* Post your own version on July 2nd to any social media platform, including YouTube
* Optional, use the hashtag #WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
* Bonus points for memes, screen caps, videos, or just sarcastic deadpan
We’re not mocking belief, we’re mocking lazy logic. If you’ve ever yelled “That’s not how evolution works!” at your screen, this is your day.
Let’s push this incoherent argument off the public stage, loudly, proudly, and PERMANENTLY.#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2ndExample: Today July 2nd, is INTERNATIONAL WHY DO BRITISH PEOPLE EXIST DAY. And on this day I am here to remind you that the "why do monkeys still exist" argument is dumb.
If Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, and British People all come from 17th century British People, then why are there still British people?
Evolution gave us thumbs. Let’s use them to type better arguments!
#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
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Spread the word! This is copy of a comment from latest GutsickGibbon livestream on YouTube.
If you’ve ever wanted to flush the “If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” argument down the evolutionary toilet once and for all, this is for you.
July 2nd is International Why Do British People Exist? Day
That’s right. We’re turning one of creationism’s most brainless gotchas into a full-blown satire holiday.
The basic idea:
“If white Americans came from British people, why are there still British people?”
It’s not just a joke (though it is a pretty good joke). it’s a meme-powered push to retire this specific brand of anti-intellectual nonsense from public discourse.What You Can Do:
* Post your own version on July 2nd to any social media platform, including YouTube
* Optional, use the hashtag #WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
* Bonus points for memes, screen caps, videos, or just sarcastic deadpan
We’re not mocking belief, we’re mocking lazy logic. If you’ve ever yelled “That’s not how evolution works!” at your screen, this is your day.
Let’s push this incoherent argument off the public stage, loudly, proudly, and PERMANENTLY.#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2ndExample: Today July 2nd, is INTERNATIONAL WHY DO BRITISH PEOPLE EXIST DAY. And on this day I am here to remind you that the "why do monkeys still exist" argument is dumb.
If Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, and British People all come from 17th century British People, then why are there still British people?
Evolution gave us thumbs. Let’s use them to type better arguments!
#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
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Spread the word! This is copy of a comment from latest GutsickGibbon livestream on YouTube.
If you’ve ever wanted to flush the “If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” argument down the evolutionary toilet once and for all, this is for you.
July 2nd is International Why Do British People Exist? Day
That’s right. We’re turning one of creationism’s most brainless gotchas into a full-blown satire holiday.
The basic idea:
“If white Americans came from British people, why are there still British people?”
It’s not just a joke (though it is a pretty good joke). it’s a meme-powered push to retire this specific brand of anti-intellectual nonsense from public discourse.What You Can Do:
* Post your own version on July 2nd to any social media platform, including YouTube
* Optional, use the hashtag #WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
* Bonus points for memes, screen caps, videos, or just sarcastic deadpan
We’re not mocking belief, we’re mocking lazy logic. If you’ve ever yelled “That’s not how evolution works!” at your screen, this is your day.
Let’s push this incoherent argument off the public stage, loudly, proudly, and PERMANENTLY.#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2ndExample: Today July 2nd, is INTERNATIONAL WHY DO BRITISH PEOPLE EXIST DAY. And on this day I am here to remind you that the "why do monkeys still exist" argument is dumb.
If Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, and British People all come from 17th century British People, then why are there still British people?
Evolution gave us thumbs. Let’s use them to type better arguments!
#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2nd -
Spread the word! This is copy of a comment from latest GutsickGibbon livestream on YouTube.
If you’ve ever wanted to flush the “If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” argument down the evolutionary toilet once and for all, this is for you.
July 2nd is International Why Do British People Exist? Day
That’s right. We’re turning one of creationism’s most brainless gotchas into a full-blown satire holiday.
The basic idea:
“If white Americans came from British people, why are there still British people?”
It’s not just a joke (though it is a pretty good joke). it’s a meme-powered push to retire this specific brand of anti-intellectual nonsense from public discourse.What You Can Do:
* Post your own version on July 2nd to any social media platform, including YouTube
* Optional, use the hashtag #WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
* Bonus points for memes, screen caps, videos, or just sarcastic deadpan
We’re not mocking belief, we’re mocking lazy logic. If you’ve ever yelled “That’s not how evolution works!” at your screen, this is your day.
Let’s push this incoherent argument off the public stage, loudly, proudly, and PERMANENTLY.#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2ndExample: Today July 2nd, is INTERNATIONAL WHY DO BRITISH PEOPLE EXIST DAY. And on this day I am here to remind you that the "why do monkeys still exist" argument is dumb.
If Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, and British People all come from 17th century British People, then why are there still British people?
Evolution gave us thumbs. Let’s use them to type better arguments!
#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2nd -
Spread the word! This is copy of a comment from latest GutsickGibbon livestream on YouTube.
If you’ve ever wanted to flush the “If we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” argument down the evolutionary toilet once and for all, this is for you.
July 2nd is International Why Do British People Exist? Day
That’s right. We’re turning one of creationism’s most brainless gotchas into a full-blown satire holiday.
The basic idea:
“If white Americans came from British people, why are there still British people?”
It’s not just a joke (though it is a pretty good joke). it’s a meme-powered push to retire this specific brand of anti-intellectual nonsense from public discourse.What You Can Do:
* Post your own version on July 2nd to any social media platform, including YouTube
* Optional, use the hashtag #WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
* Bonus points for memes, screen caps, videos, or just sarcastic deadpan
We’re not mocking belief, we’re mocking lazy logic. If you’ve ever yelled “That’s not how evolution works!” at your screen, this is your day.
Let’s push this incoherent argument off the public stage, loudly, proudly, and PERMANENTLY.#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
#July2ndExample: Today July 2nd, is INTERNATIONAL WHY DO BRITISH PEOPLE EXIST DAY. And on this day I am here to remind you that the "why do monkeys still exist" argument is dumb.
If Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, and British People all come from 17th century British People, then why are there still British people?
Evolution gave us thumbs. Let’s use them to type better arguments!
#WhyDoBritishPeopleExistDay
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#religion #schools #creationism #Australia
"Science teachers from Queensland Open Brethren schools told to teach students about vegetarian dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark
Teachers who attended ‘compulsory’ creationist conference run by US-based fundamentalist group told radiometric dating techniques were flawed.
Teachers employed by a large group of Queensland Christian schools were told to teach creationism in science classes, including that vegetarian baby dinosaurs would have been taken aboard Noah’s Ark.
Last year, the Open Brethren organisation Christian Community Ministries (CCM) hosted a Christian science conference by the US-based fundamentalist group Answers in Genesis, which once built a replica of Noah’s Ark – with model dinosaurs included.
Some Queensland science and humanities teachers working at CCM – which operates 15 schools around Australia – were told it was compulsory to attend the event."
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"Guest Recommends I Watch His #Propaganda"
- #Planet Petersonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYfrltTCpY
#evolution #creationism #darwin #life #atronomy #biology #bible #science -
The hammer entombed in rockOriginally published June 7, 2017
A tenet of geology is that rocks are old. Therefore, objects of human origin embedded in rock suggest that the rock formed after the object was created. However, there are several examples of these anomalies, which, upon first appearance, seem to set the geological timescale and assumptions topsy-turvy. One of these items is the London Hammer.
The story of its discovery goes as follows: Mr. and Mrs. Max Hahn found a nodule with the wood handle sticking out near Red Creek in London, Texas in either 1934 or 1936. Later retelling of the story by others say it was lying loose on a rock ledge when found. The nodule was broken open several years later to reveal the entire embedded iron head.
These type of anomalies are known colloquially as OOPARTs (out-of-place artifacts). Such items also include similar embedded objects like iron nails and gold chains but also alleged human footprints in prehistoric rock. Other OOPARTs assumed by some to be ancient objects created by some mysterious culture are actually natural phenomena that resemble cultural products. I hope to include some more interesting OOPARTs descriptions in future posts.
But let’s take this London hammer artifact and try to determine just how strange it is.
The matrix around the hammer head included modern shells.The hammer is of 19th-century origin. We know this because we can find matching hammers used by miners of that time and not before. The wooden handle of the hammer would not preserve much longer intact. Wood would either decompose or mineralize, depending on the conditions. How did it get encased in rock? The clue to this seems to lie in the description of the rock type – “limey”. Calcite precipitates from saturated solutions quickly under the right conditions, weeks to years. Shell beds also accumulate and cement together in a short time. In this case, we can surmise that a miner might have dropped the hammer or it fell into a spot where he was unable to retrieve it, perhaps into some limey clay that eventually hardened around the hammerhead. However, there are some suspicious details about the hammer.
First, it was not found in situ. We have no documentation of exactly where it was found or under what conditions. We just have a story from the Hahns. The strata in this location are Cretaceous in age but do not match the concreted substance. The nodule matrix cannot reliably be associated with a host rock.
But the primary problem is where the artifact is now kept and for what purpose. The item resides in a Creationist museum in Texas and is exhibited as “proof” that a worldwide flood occurred and wiped out most of the earth’s inhabitants, as related in the Biblical tale of Noah. Carl Baugh, the current owner of the artifact, will not allow testing of the wooden handle or the concretion matrix to definitively characterize its origin, though there is an undetailed, uncorroborated report from a supporter of Baugh who claims the handle was dated “from present to 700 years ago”.
Researcher Glen Kuban has an excellent chronology and details of the history of the artifact and its problematic provenance here. He supports the explanation that the hammer is a typical 19th-century miner’s tool that was encased in the limey concretion by natural means. This plausible explanation does not overturn any geological ideas about the age of the earth or of humans’ place in it. The London Hammer is simply the result of unique circumstances that produced a fascinating object.
Unfortunately, those who possess the item now (Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, TX) have no reason to have it analyzed further to help determine how this anomaly formed because of their use of it to support their anti-science narrative of Biblical creation.
Update 25-June-2024
Here is another example of rapid cementation of a recent item – an engine block left in an intertidal zone became incorporated into the rock along with shells and rock.
Young-earth creationists will shift position on these artifacts depending upon what might gain them traction in an argument. As noted above, they will claim that the rock indicates that humans were around long ago at the same time as extinct animals, so evolution must somehow be false or that fossils can form very quickly so the earth does not have to be old. Both arguments have mistaken assumptions and are flawed. Some rock does form quickly. But some types of rock are demonstrably ancient – perhaps even a billion years old for some continental bedrock – as are the creatures whose remains were preserved in them. There are multiple lines of evidence that establishes that the earth is over 4 billion years old and that there are billions of animal species that evolved and lineages that went extinct over time. It wasn’t just a few thousand years and a flood that constitutes the history of earth.
UPDATE 5-Jan-2026 (Revised) So a version of this artifact was sold for $330 at auction in January 2026. It was part of a lot of mineral specimens, fossils, casts, and related items owned by Melvin Weaver. While it seemed really strange to some of us who knew what it was that 1. it was being sold and, 2. that it went for such a low price. Jason Colavito contacted the Creationist museum where it was supposedly housed and found that it’s still there. So this version was a replica. I did not imagine there were replicas made, and there was no accessible info on the auction site that showed that. Sorry for the misinformation.
#Anomalies #artifact #concretion #creationism #creationist #LondonHammer #NoahSFlood #OOPARTs https://sharonahill.com/?p=435 -
The hammer entombed in rockOriginally published June 7, 2017
A tenet of geology is that rocks are old. Therefore, objects of human origin embedded in rock suggest that the rock formed after the object was created. However, there are several examples of these anomalies, which, upon first appearance, seem to set the geological timescale and assumptions topsy-turvy. One of these items is the London Hammer.
The story of its discovery goes as follows: Mr. and Mrs. Max Hahn found a nodule with the wood handle sticking out near Red Creek in London, Texas in either 1934 or 1936. Later retelling of the story by others say it was lying loose on a rock ledge when found. The nodule was broken open several years later to reveal the entire embedded iron head.
These type of anomalies are known colloquially as OOPARTs (out-of-place artifacts). Such items also include similar embedded objects like iron nails and gold chains but also alleged human footprints in prehistoric rock. Other OOPARTs assumed by some to be ancient objects created by some mysterious culture are actually natural phenomena that resemble cultural products. I hope to include some more interesting OOPARTs descriptions in future posts.
But let’s take this London hammer artifact and try to determine just how strange it is.
The matrix around the hammer head included modern shells.The hammer is of 19th-century origin. We know this because we can find matching hammers used by miners of that time and not before. The wooden handle of the hammer would not preserve much longer intact. Wood would either decompose or mineralize, depending on the conditions. How did it get encased in rock? The clue to this seems to lie in the description of the rock type – “limey”. Calcite precipitates from saturated solutions quickly under the right conditions, weeks to years. Shell beds also accumulate and cement together in a short time. In this case, we can surmise that a miner might have dropped the hammer or it fell into a spot where he was unable to retrieve it, perhaps into some limey clay that eventually hardened around the hammerhead. However, there are some suspicious details about the hammer.
First, it was not found in situ. We have no documentation of exactly where it was found or under what conditions. We just have a story from the Hahns. The strata in this location are Cretaceous in age but do not match the concreted substance. The nodule matrix cannot reliably be associated with a host rock.
But the primary problem is where the artifact is now kept and for what purpose. The item resides in a Creationist museum in Texas and is exhibited as “proof” that a worldwide flood occurred and wiped out most of the earth’s inhabitants, as related in the Biblical tale of Noah. Carl Baugh, the current owner of the artifact, will not allow testing of the wooden handle or the concretion matrix to definitively characterize its origin, though there is an undetailed, uncorroborated report from a supporter of Baugh who claims the handle was dated “from present to 700 years ago”.
Researcher Glen Kuban has an excellent chronology and details of the history of the artifact and its problematic provenance here. He supports the explanation that the hammer is a typical 19th-century miner’s tool that was encased in the limey concretion by natural means. This plausible explanation does not overturn any geological ideas about the age of the earth or of humans’ place in it. The London Hammer is simply the result of unique circumstances that produced a fascinating object.
Unfortunately, those who possess the item now (Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, TX) have no reason to have it analyzed further to help determine how this anomaly formed because of their use of it to support their anti-science narrative of Biblical creation.
Update 25-June-2024
Here is another example of rapid cementation of a recent item – an engine block left in an intertidal zone became incorporated into the rock along with shells and rock.
Young-earth creationists will shift position on these artifacts depending upon what might gain them traction in an argument. As noted above, they will claim that the rock indicates that humans were around long ago at the same time as extinct animals, so evolution must somehow be false or that fossils can form very quickly so the earth does not have to be old. Both arguments have mistaken assumptions and are flawed. Some rock does form quickly. But some types of rock are demonstrably ancient – perhaps even a billion years old for some continental bedrock – as are the creatures whose remains were preserved in them. There are multiple lines of evidence that establishes that the earth is over 4 billion years old and that there are billions of animal species that evolved and lineages that went extinct over time. It wasn’t just a few thousand years and a flood that constitutes the history of earth.
UPDATE 5-Jan-2026 (Revised) So a version of this artifact was sold for $330 at auction in January 2026. It was part of a lot of mineral specimens, fossils, casts, and related items owned by Melvin Weaver. While it seemed really strange to some of us who knew what it was that 1. it was being sold and, 2. that it went for such a low price. Jason Colavito contacted the Creationist museum where it was supposedly housed and found that it’s still there. So this version was a replica. I did not imagine there were replicas made, and there was no accessible info on the auction site that showed that. Sorry for the misinformation.
#Anomalies #artifact #concretion #creationism #creationist #LondonHammer #NoahSFlood #OOPARTs https://sharonahill.com/?p=435 -
The hammer entombed in rockOriginally published June 7, 2017
A tenet of geology is that rocks are old. Therefore, objects of human origin embedded in rock suggest that the rock formed after the object was created. However, there are several examples of these anomalies, which, upon first appearance, seem to set the geological timescale and assumptions topsy-turvy. One of these items is the London Hammer.
The story of its discovery goes as follows: Mr. and Mrs. Max Hahn found a nodule with the wood handle sticking out near Red Creek in London, Texas in either 1934 or 1936. Later retelling of the story by others say it was lying loose on a rock ledge when found. The nodule was broken open several years later to reveal the entire embedded iron head.
These type of anomalies are known colloquially as OOPARTs (out-of-place artifacts). Such items also include similar embedded objects like iron nails and gold chains but also alleged human footprints in prehistoric rock. Other OOPARTs assumed by some to be ancient objects created by some mysterious culture are actually natural phenomena that resemble cultural products. I hope to include some more interesting OOPARTs descriptions in future posts.
But let’s take this London hammer artifact and try to determine just how strange it is.
The matrix around the hammer head included modern shells.The hammer is of 19th-century origin. We know this because we can find matching hammers used by miners of that time and not before. The wooden handle of the hammer would not preserve much longer intact. Wood would either decompose or mineralize, depending on the conditions. How did it get encased in rock? The clue to this seems to lie in the description of the rock type – “limey”. Calcite precipitates from saturated solutions quickly under the right conditions, weeks to years. Shell beds also accumulate and cement together in a short time. In this case, we can surmise that a miner might have dropped the hammer or it fell into a spot where he was unable to retrieve it, perhaps into some limey clay that eventually hardened around the hammerhead. However, there are some suspicious details about the hammer.
First, it was not found in situ. We have no documentation of exactly where it was found or under what conditions. We just have a story from the Hahns. The strata in this location are Cretaceous in age but do not match the concreted substance. The nodule matrix cannot reliably be associated with a host rock.
But the primary problem is where the artifact is now kept and for what purpose. The item resides in a Creationist museum in Texas and is exhibited as “proof” that a worldwide flood occurred and wiped out most of the earth’s inhabitants, as related in the Biblical tale of Noah. Carl Baugh, the current owner of the artifact, will not allow testing of the wooden handle or the concretion matrix to definitively characterize its origin, though there is an undetailed, uncorroborated report from a supporter of Baugh who claims the handle was dated “from present to 700 years ago”.
Researcher Glen Kuban has an excellent chronology and details of the history of the artifact and its problematic provenance here. He supports the explanation that the hammer is a typical 19th-century miner’s tool that was encased in the limey concretion by natural means. This plausible explanation does not overturn any geological ideas about the age of the earth or of humans’ place in it. The London Hammer is simply the result of unique circumstances that produced a fascinating object.
Unfortunately, those who possess the item now (Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, TX) have no reason to have it analyzed further to help determine how this anomaly formed because of their use of it to support their anti-science narrative of Biblical creation.
Update 25-June-2024
Here is another example of rapid cementation of a recent item – an engine block left in an intertidal zone became incorporated into the rock along with shells and rock.
Young-earth creationists will shift position on these artifacts depending upon what might gain them traction in an argument. As noted above, they will claim that the rock indicates that humans were around long ago at the same time as extinct animals, so evolution must somehow be false or that fossils can form very quickly so the earth does not have to be old. Both arguments have mistaken assumptions and are flawed. Some rock does form quickly. But some types of rock are demonstrably ancient – perhaps even a billion years old for some continental bedrock – as are the creatures whose remains were preserved in them. There are multiple lines of evidence that establishes that the earth is over 4 billion years old and that there are billions of animal species that evolved and lineages that went extinct over time. It wasn’t just a few thousand years and a flood that constitutes the history of earth.
UPDATE 5-Jan-2026 (Revised) So a version of this artifact was sold for $330 at auction in January 2026. It was part of a lot of mineral specimens, fossils, casts, and related items owned by Melvin Weaver. While it seemed really strange to some of us who knew what it was that 1. it was being sold and, 2. that it went for such a low price. Jason Colavito contacted the Creationist museum where it was supposedly housed and found that it’s still there. So this version was a replica. I did not imagine there were replicas made, and there was no accessible info on the auction site that showed that. Sorry for the misinformation.
#Anomalies #artifact #concretion #creationism #creationist #LondonHammer #NoahSFlood #OOPARTs https://sharonahill.com/?p=435 -
#Creationism in the #classroom: does it matter? #Kitzmiller 20 years on
What we now call #ChristianNationalism has its roots in #RonaldReagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, when #creationists such as #TimLaHaye fused together #political #conservatism, the newly adopted #abortion issue, literalist #Bible-based #religion, and the rejection of #evolution #science as #Humanist, #unAmerican, and as we would now say #Woke.
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#Creationism in the #classroom: does it matter? #Kitzmiller 20 years on
What we now call #ChristianNationalism has its roots in #RonaldReagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, when #creationists such as #TimLaHaye fused together #political #conservatism, the newly adopted #abortion issue, literalist #Bible-based #religion, and the rejection of #evolution #science as #Humanist, #unAmerican, and as we would now say #Woke.
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#Creationism in the #classroom: does it matter? #Kitzmiller 20 years on
What we now call #ChristianNationalism has its roots in #RonaldReagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, when #creationists such as #TimLaHaye fused together #political #conservatism, the newly adopted #abortion issue, literalist #Bible-based #religion, and the rejection of #evolution #science as #Humanist, #unAmerican, and as we would now say #Woke.
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#Creationism in the #classroom: does it matter? #Kitzmiller 20 years on
What we now call #ChristianNationalism has its roots in #RonaldReagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, when #creationists such as #TimLaHaye fused together #political #conservatism, the newly adopted #abortion issue, literalist #Bible-based #religion, and the rejection of #evolution #science as #Humanist, #unAmerican, and as we would now say #Woke.
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#Creationism in the #classroom: does it matter? #Kitzmiller 20 years on
What we now call #ChristianNationalism has its roots in #RonaldReagan’s 1980 presidential campaign, when #creationists such as #TimLaHaye fused together #political #conservatism, the newly adopted #abortion issue, literalist #Bible-based #religion, and the rejection of #evolution #science as #Humanist, #unAmerican, and as we would now say #Woke.
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I was raised by an anthropologist to be an anthropologist*, with all that entails.
She also raised me to be christian, I suppose, though never with much enthusiasm. And though she tried, disability and intermittent poverty meant that what science education she was able to provide was spotty.
I never told her I was an atheist. I think it's possible she was one, too.
When I was a young college student in the 1990s, I encountered postmodernism. I flirted with it. It was seductive. A professor I respected warned me to be careful with it. I was.
When I was a young mother in the 1990s and into the new millennium, I scoured every children's book purporting to be about science before I brought it home. Creationism was seeping into the world my children inhabited.
The resurgence of creationism in education in the 2000s—and the resistance to it—became one of the defining cultural battles to play out during my young adulthood.
I thought I understood where the resurgence came from. I had, to my horror, brushed up against reactionary christianity as a teenager. I had seen these people in their own environment. So I thought I could see the bulk of the iceberg under the wedge at the surface.
But what I was able to see didn't quite explain the anti-vaxxers.
That particular branch of anti-science sentiment was as likely to be embraced by "progressive" hippy homesteaders as reactionary christian natalists. Where did the anti-vaxxers come from?
What lead to denial of reality across the political spectra?
I did not know about the science wars in the 1990s. I did not know the role postmodernism played in driving anti-science sentiment on the right. I want to understand.
I'm reading Did the Science Wars Take Place? by William Gillis @rechelon . There are pieces missing in my understanding, and I want to slot them in. I want to understand the whole. Reading this book is part of that.
I'm going to share quotes and thoughts as I make my way through the book. You're welcome to join me. Scroll down in the linked thread. Let's try to work this one out.
Here's the thread: https://kolektiva.social/@calendsofapril/115169983053251178
*I am not an anthropologist. By the standards of the academy, I am not anything. I am an anarchist.
#realism #postmodernism #creationism #anthropology #anarchism #theory #amReading #reflections
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“God is in control”: A field report from the Ark Encounter’s “Astronaut Encounter”
https://thespacereview.com/article/5037/1
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#Kibitzing a bad #creationist #debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDUDWzOJCkM
PZ MyersThe Twin Cities #CreationScience Association sponsored a debate between #BrianLauer, creationist, and #MarkReid, sensible normal human being. Reid was fine, but Lauer's arguments, or lack thereof, compelled me to criticize him.
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‘What should be taught in schools?’: the infamous ‘Scopes monkey trial’ turns 100 https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/jul/10/scopes-monkey-trial-100 #CharlesDarwin #Creationism #Tennessee #Festivals #Evolution #Religion #Culture #Science #USnews #Stage
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In case you didn't know, it's the 100th Anniversary of the Scopes Trial. #science #evolution #religion #biology #creationism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DQUAuNUvw
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It's that time again folks- time to give our best answers to some of the absolutely unhinged #questions on Quora. From #Darwin vs #Creationism through "What would happen if I injected myself with wolf DNA?", it's sure to be a wild ride.
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#Christians Think #Dinosaurs Aren’t Real and that their #Bones Were Put Here By the #Devil to Deceive Us
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@sixtus Man sieht ja in den #USA, wohin es führt, wenn streng religiöse Kräfte wieder das Sagen haben. #fundamentalismus #creationism #evangelikale
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With a massive ark and museum, a U.S. man spreads creationism a century after the historic Scopes Monkey Trial, which took place 100 years ago this July in Dayton, Tennessee. He’s not alone.
@AssociatedPress reports on the continuing appeal of creationism: https://flip.it/c9.mLC
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Debunking #Creationism with #Science ft. Dave Farina (Professor Dave Explains) | #FFRF’s Ask An #Atheist
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The #Elephant Kind?
"This is a selected clip from one of my debates with the convicted fraud and #religious #apologist, #KentHovind years ago. I uploaded this clip from that just for the fun of it."
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#Evolution teaches that we came from a Rock?!
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TIL the details of how my grandson got kicked out of his first year 3 religious education class.
He had no idea why he was there, and got bored. He zoned out, laying his head on the desk, joking with his friend etc. The volunteer happy clapper confronted him, and talked about creationism. My grandson snapped back about the Big Bang and the Theory of Evolution. That really set the instructor off and she kicked him out.
The school called my son-in-law and he asked what Emilio did. He laughed and said "one: I am really proud of him, and two: why was he in that class in the first place? We never ticked the box giving permission for him to attend the class!"I asked him to explain the story himself to me. High Five from grandpa.
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The Definitive Guide to #Debunking #Creationists
Part 1: #Cosmology/#Planetary #Science
Part 2: #Abiogenesis
Part 3: #Evolutionary #Biology/#Paleontology
Part 4: #Genetics/#Molecular Biology
Part 5: #Philosophy/#Theologyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7_HOZHOi1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2JjHDZDdRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQOCybcSnug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfm9q4UoQBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU8H_Fh-TAE
