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  1. Keuschheitswahn in Deutschland: „Wie benutzte Kaugummis“ – Wie evangelikale Pastoren Enthaltsamkeit predigen

    Die Stimmung ist wie bei einem Rockkonzert. Die Mädchen kreischen vor Begeisterung. Manche müssen sogar hinaus getragen werden.…
    #Stuttgart #Deutschland #Deutsch #DE #Schlagzeilen #Headlines #Nachrichten #News #Europe #Europa #EU #Baden-Württemberg #Buch #Enthaltsamkreit #Freikirchen #Germany #Lesung #NanaMyrrhe #PurityCulture #Purity-Ring
    europesays.com/de/972786/

  2. "I think it's creating safe places for pedophiles to operate and get away with sexually abusing children and normalizing grooming and the sexualization of children into these sort of like patriarchal fetish content."

    #Epstein #JamesDobson #evangelicals #PurityCulture #patriarchy #SexualAbuse #pedophiles
    /6

  3. "Purity culture is pedophile culture. ...

    We know purity culture is bad and there's lots of discussion about all the ways it impacts people's sexuality and self-esteem and all that. And I'm saying, and here's another part."

    ~ D.L. Mayfield

    #Epstein #JamesDobson #evangelicals #PurityCulture #patriarchy #SexualAbuse #pedophiles
    /5

    strongwilled.substack.com/p/po

  4. “'You say thx for advice but could have said … is there something i can do to express my appreciation?'

    Epstein was arrested a few months after sending that text and charged with sex trafficking girls as young as 14. ...

    D. L. Mayfield, a deconstructed evangelical author, argues Dobson and Focus on the Family created parenting materials that appealed to pedophiles."

    #Epstein #JamesDobson #evangelicals #PurityCulture #patriarchy #SexualAbuse #pedophiles
    /3

  5. "He included a link to an online column where the founder of Focus on the Family told someone to adjust expectations for a father who had caused his family great pain.

    Epstein followed up a few minutes later with a text chiding the woman he was talking to for not being grateful enough to offer him sexual favors.

    'I suggest you learn to give,' he wrote late at night on May 20."

    #Epstein #JamesDobson #evangelicals #PurityCulture #patriarchy #SexualAbuse #pedophiles
    /2

  6. "An article by Christian psychologist James Dobson caught the attention of millionaire financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. He sent it to someone seeking advice about her relationship with her father.

    'Ask yourself why you are so mad at him,' Epstein texted in 2019, according to a document the U.S. Department of Justice released on Jan. 30."

    ~ Daniel Silliman

    #Epstein #JamesDobson #evangelicals #PurityCulture #patriarchy #SexualAbuse #pedophiles
    /1

    julieroys.com/jeffrey-epstein-

  7. ☠️✝️☠️ Toxischer Glaube

    In christlich-fundamentalistischen #Freikirchen ist die Rolle von Mädchen und Frauen streng limitiert. #PurityCulture heißt diese Bewegung. Aussteigerinnen berichten von schweren Traumata
    #FCKPRT
    jungewelt.de/artikel/515882.re

  8. CW: Discussion of rape culture and sexual abuse

    "Women are thus seen as wholly in control of their sexuality, responsible for every lustful thought they excite in the men around them, but also fatally incapable of leading themselves or their household in serious matters like faith and finances. It’s a lose-lose proposition."

    #evangelicals #Trump #Epstein #pedophiles #RapeCulture #PurityCulture #SexualAbuse #misogyny
    /3

  9. CW: Discussion of rape culture and sexual abuse

    "The idea that men are powerless when it comes to sexual desire is a peculiar thing to set against all the other domains in which male leadership and control is considered a requirement."

    #evangelicals #Trump #Epstein #pedophiles #RapeCulture #PurityCulture #SexualAbuse #misogyny
    /2

  10. CW: Discussion of rape culture and sexual abuse

    Alan Elrod notes that "the very parts of American culture that claim to promote teen abstinence and sexual purity operate on a parallel logic to the rape culture that enables the darkest misogynistic violence against women."

    #evangelicals #Trump #Epstein #pedophiles #RapeCulture #PurityCulture #SexualAbuse #misogyny
    /1

  11. Why Evangelicals Support #Authoritarianism

    Why are #evangelicals still supporting Trump’s #authoritarian takeover? The answer is unsettling: in #evangelical culture, #control is often framed as love.

    "In this video, I unpack how authoritarianism has been rebranded as “protection,” “discipline,” and even “#godly love.”

    #purityculture #politicalpower #obedience #devotion #strongman

    youtube.com/watch?v=YdYC9o-dG-

  12. Why Evangelicals Support #Authoritarianism

    Why are #evangelicals still supporting Trump’s #authoritarian takeover? The answer is unsettling: in #evangelical culture, #control is often framed as love.

    "In this video, I unpack how authoritarianism has been rebranded as “protection,” “discipline,” and even “#godly love.”

    #purityculture #politicalpower #obedience #devotion #strongman

    youtube.com/watch?v=YdYC9o-dG-

  13. Why Evangelicals Support #Authoritarianism

    Why are #evangelicals still supporting Trump’s #authoritarian takeover? The answer is unsettling: in #evangelical culture, #control is often framed as love.

    "In this video, I unpack how authoritarianism has been rebranded as “protection,” “discipline,” and even “#godly love.”

    #purityculture #politicalpower #obedience #devotion #strongman

    youtube.com/watch?v=YdYC9o-dG-

  14. Why Evangelicals Support #Authoritarianism

    Why are #evangelicals still supporting Trump’s #authoritarian takeover? The answer is unsettling: in #evangelical culture, #control is often framed as love.

    "In this video, I unpack how authoritarianism has been rebranded as “protection,” “discipline,” and even “#godly love.”

    #purityculture #politicalpower #obedience #devotion #strongman

    youtube.com/watch?v=YdYC9o-dG-

  15. Why Evangelicals Support #Authoritarianism

    Why are #evangelicals still supporting Trump’s #authoritarian takeover? The answer is unsettling: in #evangelical culture, #control is often framed as love.

    "In this video, I unpack how authoritarianism has been rebranded as “protection,” “discipline,” and even “#godly love.”

    #purityculture #politicalpower #obedience #devotion #strongman

    youtube.com/watch?v=YdYC9o-dG-

  16. Forewarning: I didn't proofread this. This is a stream of consciousness ramble and could be structured a lot better. I might come back and revise this essay in a couple of weeks when I have time to, but right now I'm just trying to get my thoughts written down even if they're not the most digestible yet.

    Also, this is a reply to a longer essay. Federation gets weird when I'm close to 10k characters, but it's an FYI in case it's invisible for you.

    ---

    I do want to address the dynamic when partners are involved in some fashion. There is a wealth of both good and bad things that can happen here.

    Masturbation can be done with a partner present, and in fact, it's often great to do so. It's one way to help your partner build/absorb a map of some pathways you take to pleasure town. It's different with a partner. It's even different simply sharing a summary of the experience after the fact. Typically masturbation and/or solo sex is only specific to the one person. It's not about the other person. Nobody has entitlements to your personal activities.

    @Azzura rightfully pointed out that toxic behaviors are not uncommon (see [post](lgbtqia.space/@Azzura/11540330)) and some people will have particular notions about what it means when you, a different person, engages in self-stimulation. Masturbation is often fulfilling a different need than partnered sex. They are _not_ equivalent, even if they would meet the same need. This is true for healthy relationships as well, by the way.

    #CW talking about some toxic viewpoints below

    First, let's address the "If you masturbate, then we won't be able to have sex after." There is _a lot_ to unpack there. This could imply several different things.

    1. Masturbation will make you "unclean" and therefore unable to have sex
    2. Masturbation is being done for orgasm and it's impossible to continue afterwards
    3. Masturbation is going to be too draining on energy or time and sex will be off the table

    Underlying all of these, there is an implied entitlement to sex, which raises my hackles. For the purposes of this exercise, let's assume that there is a mutual desire to have sex after, but one partner is concerned that you are not prioritizing correctly (and that the concern has a possibility of being reasonable).

    1 has its roots in purity culture, which gives me the ick, and I'd have a rant about it if someone said that to me. The best possible interpretation I can make would be if my masturbation sessions are messy and they expect I won't cleanup first. Hygiene is important. Plus, not all lube agrees with all skin, so easy, just rinse off or something. Again, this is the best possible interpretation.

    2 has a couple of assumptions baked in. Masturbation isn't necessarily done for the goal of an orgasm. Some folks are the type to be "one and done" in a legit "can't physically do anything to reciprocate and need a nap" way instead of a "too lazy to reciprocate" way. For these folks, I can't imagine they would masturbate to orgasm if they are planning to have sex right after. Know thyself, etc. The flip side is folks who are very much _not_ the "one and done" type. This side includes moi. I don't get revved up very often, and it's actually rather difficult for me to do so. But when I do get going, I'm _going_ for a while. In many cases, I need a solid warmup, and in cases where there is the elusive orgasm, it like, breaks the dam and then I can continue having more. If I engage with a partner right away, it might not happen and some folks take that as a hit to their self-esteem which I prefer to avoid.

    3 implies that you might not have considered the demands on your own body. Take some deep breaths and look for the best case interpretation. I forget that this is an exhausting endeavor or that it takes me forever, and how inconsiderate of me to not include my partners needs in my personal agenda for my body. (I can actually envision a scenario where this might be valid, but I got annoyed on the way there). This is something that is more of a conversation to negotiate boundaries and expectations. If exhaustion does happen, then the partner can masturbate, maybe even with an audience. The particular solution will depend on the precise situation happening.

    Next, let's unpack the "masturbation is cheating" angle. This could be a whole essay, but I don't want to spend that energy. I'm saving it for better activities.

    This is rooted in purity culture to an extent. And the incorrect assumption that any self-stimulation is fulfilling the same need as partnered stimulation. Often it's just physical too because you may not be required to be mentally or emotionally present. And it is framing things as "your partner can be the only valid way to meet this need." One can also interpret it with the "masturbation is a sexual relationship with oneself" interpretation and with how mono culture often seems to encourage forms of codependency, it is putting the responsibility of needs on the partner, and the partner alone.

    There's so many ways this irks me, I can't even list them all. And just an aside, I'm not trying to disparage all mono folks. Realistically, when this happens (masturbation is cheating is the accepted terms of the relationship) it's putting a lot of responsibility on the couple to engage with each other sexually and there's no recourse when one fails. There will eventually be a failure because it's not actually meeting the same need. It's also creating a knowledge silo, so taking on a different partner becomes more work, and feels like a barrier. It will usually lead to trying to stay in the relationship, and masturbating with a need for secrecy and shame, which is unhealthy. It's doomed to fail, and potentially have long lasting psychological consequences. Purity culture is a colonization tactic, and used as such in "The Traitor Baru Cormorant" by Seth Dickinson, in case anyone needs more reasons to go read that book.

    #Discussion #Masturbation #PartneredSex #PurityCulture #ScribblesOfAKat

  17. BUCHTIPP: Wer sich über #PurityCulture aus erster Hand informieren will, wird hier fündig. Wir durften bei der famosen Book-Release-Party von Nana Myrrhe dabei sein und sind immer noch begeistert - es war wild, lustig, einfach schön und emotional bis traurig...

  18. BUCHTIPP: Wer sich über #PurityCulture aus erster Hand informieren will, wird hier fündig. Wir durften bei der famosen Book-Release-Party von Nana Myrrhe dabei sein und sind immer noch begeistert - es war wild, lustig, einfach schön und emotional bis traurig... buff.ly/vzW02x3

  19. One song begs Jesus for forgiveness after jerking off. The other moans His name. This is what happens when shame becomes a kink and orgasms become a sacrament. Flyleaf’s “The Kind” and Demi Lovato’s “Heaven” aren’t companions—but they sure do make one hell of a confessional.
    #DemiLovato #Flyleaf #ChristianRock #PurityCulture #SexualityAndReligion #HolyFvck #EvangelicalGuilt #FeministPop #MusicCriticism #BlasphemyIsHot #ShameIsABore
    songreading.wordpress.com/2025

  20. Just saw a tiktok with a white lady chastising other "⚪ people" for using a certain audio in their videos and "sneering" their lips in sync with a typical boisterous vocalization calling it "digital blackface".

    Things aren't looking good for 2028, y'all.

    #leftistinfighting #purityculture #digitalblackface

  21. Thinking about when the dorm supervisor at my conservative Christian university told me I needed to "remove the poster of the naked man" from my wall.

    It was a poster of Michelangelo's "The Creation of Adam" that I'd picked up in Vatican City the previous summer. 🙄

    me: he's not even sexy! 😫 😆

    That was another life, for sure.

    #exvangelical
    #ConservativeChristianity
    #ChurchOfChrist
    #PurityCulture
    #ArtAppreciation
    #NudityIsNotPorn

  22. Das schöne an der Nutzung der Bahn ist, dass man nebenher Podcasts hören kann. Eben hörte ich von "Secta" das Gespräch mit #Nana #Myrrhe über die sogenannte #PurityCulture - echt krass, was sie erlebt hat. #Fundamentalismus #evangelikal #fckprty

  23. Das schöne an der Nutzung der Bahn ist, dass man nebenher Podcasts hören kann. Eben hörte ich von "Secta" das Gespräch mit #Nana #Myrrhe über die sogenannte #PurityCulture - echt krass, was sie erlebt hat. #Fundamentalismus #evangelikal #fckprty

  24. Das schöne an der Nutzung der Bahn ist, dass man nebenher Podcasts hören kann. Eben hörte ich von "Secta" das Gespräch mit #Nana #Myrrhe über die sogenannte #PurityCulture - echt krass, was sie erlebt hat. #Fundamentalismus #evangelikal #fckprty

  25. Das schöne an der Nutzung der Bahn ist, dass man nebenher Podcasts hören kann. Eben hörte ich von "Secta" das Gespräch mit #Nana #Myrrhe über die sogenannte #PurityCulture - echt krass, was sie erlebt hat. #Fundamentalismus #evangelikal #fckprty

  26. CW: Conservative Christianity, masturbation, sex, marriage, gender norms, sexual coercion (mention)

    I grew up Very Religious. And I was in a Very Religious marriage for several years. This particular Very Religion was absolutely NOT OK with masturbation. So much anti-masturbation content. So much thought policing. So much guilt and shame as social control of young men (yes, lots heaped on girls and women, too, and I'm never going to minimize that, but this post is about male #masturbation

    A few things about living in this kind of abstinence-focused #religion

    - Boys & men are still (very) horny (note: no wanking)
    - Teenagers and young adults are strongly encouraged to date
    - But no touching
    - No orgasms

    All truly[1] sexual possibilities are kicked down the road to the pie-in-the-sky #marriage someday. Your spouse's body (and will and consent) will be your only sexual outlet. Forever.

    OK, so you do that. You don't have sex. You don't masturbate. You meet That Special Someone.

    Some stuff about that:

    - You've been sexually unsatisfied for about two decades[2]. Your #marriage decision cannot possibly be unaffected by that.

    - #PostNutClarity won't (can't) help you make a more thoughtful marriage #decision

    - You and your new spouse will probably[3] fuck like happy bunnies for a while

    But something will go wrong. There are guaranteed to be #problems in any marriage and this one had some very sketchy starting parameters, so there will absolutely be problems. Some will involve sex. All will affect #sex

    And you still won't masturbate (or not without huge shame) because it's still a Big Rule from God.

    No sexual soothing, no post-nut clarity, and constant sexual frustration to make each #conflict worse.

    In addition, husbands commonly[4] want more sex than their wives (note: #GenderEssentialism is the water all of this swims in). Even w/ small imbalance: husband's wife "never" wants sex, wife's husband seems "obsessed".

    No masturbation pressure relief valve.

    Girls and women have had sexual shame hammered in even more deeply. The virgin/whore thing can happen.

    Result: resentment, fighting, fear, even coercion[5].

    I grew up seeing this in spouses: coded conflict language around friends, ubiquitous marital unhappiness. Many ppl (IMO) invested their feelings in kids or religion bc it was less fucked-up than what they felt toward their spouses.

    The #divorce rate in my church was lower than average, but I suspect so was average marital satisfaction.

    I now believe this whole system is Very Bad, though it has some positives[6].

    Moral anti-masturbation arguments can't (really) be about consequences for others (like premarital sex, #adultery, theft, gossiping, etc.). They rely on "personal purity." This has big consequences (i.e., #PurityCulture), including the discussion of "sexual sins" - Prohibited Touching[7] - focusing nearly 100% on how it affects YOU--your righteousness, your salvation, your filthiness, your future marriage prospects...

    Boys get nearly constant anti-sex, anti-masturbation pressure & messaging. Laudably, it's about the boy's actions. Unfortunately, bc purity culture, it's mostly about how the boy's actions affect *him*.

    In 1000s of lessons & talks to boys about avoiding Prohibited Touching with Girls it is /very/ rare to find any discussion of possible coercion.

    What if she didn't want the #touching? Let's focus on your #soul, son.

    Anyway, I'm many years out from that environment/system. My own Uniquely Fucked-Up Marriage (TM) is now in post-religion, one-of-us-was-gay-all-along, maybe-kinda-poly territory. The big conflict phases are (I hope) past. We spend a lot of time supporting each other in finding healthier relationship patterns, moving toward a #divorce that will be good for both of us and our kid.

    I should have planned a nice wrap-up but I guess this is it.

    ---- Footnotes ---
    [1] "truly sexual" - Repressed religious kids can do an awful lot that is sexual but not Prohibited touching

    [2] Some people end up sexually unsatisfied for more than 2 decades. Some break the rules. Some get married at 17.

    [3] Some newlyweds don't fuck like rabbits because of other problems: medical issues, consequences of 20 years of sex shame, actually gay, etc.

    [4] Sometimes women want more sex.

    [5] There is an awful lot of coercion at peer, family, & larger system levels (as in all social systems but I don't like this kind)

    [6] Of course even Fundie Christianity has positives; cultures don't persist if they don't do anything for their members

    [7] Technically, it's not just touching that's prohibited; you can also sin by thinking sexual thoughts.

  27. What's worse is I'm seeing #PurityCulture posts of "Biden is disappointing, so I'm not going to vote, and let Trump win."

    If they're saying that, they should follow it up with "IDGAF if people less fortunate than me die, are beaten by the police and anti-woke groups, sent further into poverty."

    Because their purity is more important.

  28. CW: Salon article about women-focused raunch comedies and the failures of the sexual revolution

    From the Salon article:
    "The rise of the label Slut (non-practicing) captures this ethos. The new iteration of the word slut is not about your body count, but a lifestyle and aesthetic. It's about wearing micro mini-skirts, being sexy, confident and empowered and yet . . . not having sex. As Tom George for i-D notes, [it's] 'an ownership of a sexuality that is completely our own, expressed through the way we dress, the way we strut down the street whilst listening to Doja Cat, our horny bookstyling and thotty digital footprint.' Sorry boys, we actually don't need you for us to be sexual."

    Yay! I finally get to be a slut! It's all I ever wanted to be! I'm not even joking about this--I'm dead serious. *Cries in teen years spent stuck in #ChristoFascist #PurityCulture*

    More at salon.com/2023/09/05/women-hor

    #Sex #SexualLiberation #SexualRevolution #Feminism #Feminist #SexPositivity #SexPositive

  29. Such a great zoom call last night! We talked about parenting, Calvinism/reformed theology, purity culture and promise rings. If you missed it, you can catch the recording here: patreon.com/posts/parenting-pu #deconstruction #exvangelical #purityculture #churchtoo

  30. Ask Arline Anything 2022 episode

    "The farther away religious people get from fundamentalism the better their religion will be and the world in general.
    Fundamentalism just harms."

    #SecularCommunity #SecularGrace #Deconstruction #PurityCulture #Autonomy
    gracefulatheist.com/2022/12/11