#forums — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #forums, aggregated by home.social.
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The Evening Sun | Village Of New Berlin Budget Keeps Taxes Under Tax Cap
NEW BERLIN – The Village of New Berlin voted last week to approve a budget that would keep…
#Germany #DE #Europe #EU #Europa #Berlin #Budget #cap #ChenangoCounty #classifieds #community #currentevents #dailynewspaper #EveningSun #forums #keeps #New #newyork #News #newspaper #Norwich #obituaries #of #onlinenewspaper #Oxford #Sherburne #Tax #taxes #under #village
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https://www.europesays.com/dk/78004/ The Evening Sun | Village Of New Berlin Budget Keeps Taxes Under Tax Cap #berlin #Budget #cap #ChenangoCounty #classifieds #community #CurrentEvents #DailyNewspaper #EveningSun #forums #Germany #keeps #new #NewYork #news #newspaper #Norwich #obituaries #of #OnlineNewspaper #Oxford #Sherburne #Tax #Taxes #under #Village
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My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:
There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!
What do you think?
#privacy #alternative for #android #OS
https://grapheneos.org/install/
(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?
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My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:
There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!
What do you think?
#privacy #alternative for #android #OS
https://grapheneos.org/install/
(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?
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My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:
There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!
What do you think?
#privacy #alternative for #android #OS
https://grapheneos.org/install/
(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?
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My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:
There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!
What do you think?
#privacy #alternative for #android #OS
https://grapheneos.org/install/
(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?
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My problem with #GrapheneOS and switching to it:
There are no #links or #forums for #fans to say what they tested already and what works with LESS-supported devices! (the website could link to fan-tested crowd-tested models that works with #GrapheneOS!
What do you think?
#privacy #alternative for #android #OS
https://grapheneos.org/install/
(Pixel phones are mostly listed as "supported" but I'm sure I've seen other phones and people with "it works". Add this #suggestion ?
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The Classic Forum Experience
- OP asks a simple question
- "Expert" spends 3 paragraphs debating the semantics of the question
- gives a completely unrelated answer with confidence
- maybe links a Stack Overflow post from 2009 that's also wrong
- [THREAD LOCKED - marked as solved]
the "solved" is always the funniest part. solved by whom?? for who??
bonus points if they end with "hope this helps! 😊" after helping absolutely nobody
https://social.obulou.org/@kalvin0x8d0/statuses/01KPQG4WVDHS50YXN7KRCY6KB7
#forums #internet #tech #rant #relatable #online #help #support #questions #answers #frustration #digital #culture #stackoverflow #thread
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#Networking Within 🤝 #Chats, #forums and #groups allow #teams to work together across locations and share #knowledge in realtime.
#KnowledgeManagement 📚 #Information is centrally accessible, making #knowledgesharing much more efficient and transparent for all parties involved.
#Motivation and #Commitment 🚀 A #socialintranet strengthens the sense of #community and increases employee #motivation through meaningful direct #interaction.
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Was reading a forum about #oldtimer #FordEscort whilst tech issues with my instance was being fixed.
Someone in *2007* posted a funny story about old lady at the petrol garage who recognised the posters car, having driven one herself in her younger days.
The story was only 160 words and 754 characters (same as toot on here).
The car owner followed it with an apology for the "long" post, and that folk would have got bored of it.
It is *this* TL;DR culture that over the years led to both #forums supposedly "dying" (to be fair that one seems stil active) and corporate bullshit like #Meta and now #AI taking over so many communities..
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@cloudskater wrote:
Some instances are run by bad people. Hell, a few projects like Lemmy and Matrix are DEVELOPED by assholes, but the FLOSS and federated nature of these platforms allows us to bypass/fork them and create healthy spaces outside their reach.
Nope, that is actually what is killing the fediverse. I just explained here:
The issue is the divergence in semantic interpretation that emerges at the interpretation layer. ActivityPub standardizes message delivery and defines common activity types. However, it leaves extension semantics and application-layer policy decisions to individual implementations. Servers may introduce custom JSON-LD namespaces and enforce local behaviors, such as reply restrictions, while remaining protocol-compliant. But, the noise created by divergences are problematic, because it creates unexpected, unintended, and unpredictable behavior.
Divergence appears when implementations rely on non-normative metadata and assume reciprocal handling to preserve a consistent user experience. Behavioral alignment then varies. Syntactic exchange succeeds, but behavioral consistency is not guaranteed. Though instances continue to federate at the transport level, policy semantics and processing logic differ across deployments. Those differences produce inconsistent experiences and results between implementations.
That leads to fragmentation, specifically semantic or behavioral fragmentation and an inconsistent user experiences. ActivityPub ensures syntactic interoperability, but semantic interoperability (everyone interprets and enforces rules the same way) varies. This creates a system that is federated at the transport level yet fragmented in behavior and expectations across implementations. It is funny how the thing that the fediverse touted has made the entire thing very brittle. ActivityPub technically federates correctly, but semantically falls apart once servers start adding their own behavioral rules.
https://neon-blue-demon-wyrm.x10.network/archives/16932
FYI, I’m not doing culture wars or political debates. I’m just saying this idea of “forking away” from them is literally breaking the fediverse’s distributed network and creating all kinds of issues with semantic interoperability. Yes, federation is still happening at the delivery level, but the semantic issues are out of fucking control. You are a federation by the very sheer skin of your teeth.
The reason why developers are leaving the fediverse is because you folks don’t take criticism. You respond to criticism with — I’m being so serious right now — political manifestos and harassing developers. ActivityPub developers and authors oversold you folks on the capabilities of ActivityStreams. They flat-out lied to y’all.
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ActivityPub Server’s Custom Reply‑Control Extensions Undermine Federation
It seems like Activitbypub developers are extending ActivityPub with optional metadata to fix a lot of its issues, but that is still problematic. Trying to add moderation tools and user control to threads seems to be the ongoing battle. I am fascinated by dumpster fires, so I’ve started looking at the ActivityPub protocol in detail. I tend to become fascinated with things that are going down in flames.
As a brief recap of the problem:
So, one of the very popular features on Bluesky—also popular on Twitter—is the ability to select who can reply to a post. A major issue in the Fediverse is the inability to decide who can reply, and once you block someone, their harassing reply is still there. I honestly thought it was simply a case of them choosing not to add or address it for cultural reasons. What is clear from that thread is that they were always aware that the ActivityPub protocol and most Fediverse implementations don’t provide a universal way to control reply visibility or enforce blocks across instances.
An ActivityPub server that has reply control is GoToSocial. ActivityPub, as defined by the W3C specification, standardizes how servers federate activities. It defines actors, inboxes, outboxes, and activity types (Create, Follow, Like, Announce, etc.) expressed using ActivityStreams 2.0. It also specifies delivery mechanics (including how a Create activity reaches another server’s inbox) and how collections behave.
The specification does not include interaction policy semantics such as “only followers may reply” or “replies require manual approval.” There is no field in the normative vocabulary requiring conforming servers to enforce reply permissions. That category of rule is outside the protocol’s defined contract.
GoToSocial implements reply controls through what it calls interaction policies. These appear as additional properties on ActivityStreams objects using a custom JSON-LD namespace controlled by the GoToSocial project.
JSON-LD permits additional namespaced terms. This means the document remains structurally valid ActivityStreams and federates normally. The meaning of those custom fields, however, comes from GoToSocial’s own documentation and implementation. Other servers can ignore them without violating ActivityPub because they are not part of the interoperable core vocabulary.
Enforcement occurs locally. When a remote server sends a reply—a Create activity whose object references another via inReplyTo—ActivityPub governs delivery, not acceptance criteria. Whether the receiving server checks a reply policy, rejects the activity, queues it, or displays it is determined in the server’s inbox-processing code. The decision to accept, display, or require approval happens after successful protocol-level delivery. This behavior belongs to the application layer.
These are server-side features layered on top of ActivityPub’s transport and data model that are not actually part of ActivityPub. The protocol ensures standardized delivery of activities; however, the server implementation defines additional constraints and user-facing behavior. Two GoToSocial instances may both recognize and act on the same extension fields. However, a different implementation, such as Mastodon, has no obligation under the specification to interpret or enforce GoToSocial’s interactionPolicy properties. These fields function as extension metadata rather than protocol requirements.
The semantics of GoToSocial are not part of the specification’s defined vocabulary and processing rules for ActivityPub. They no longer operate purely at the protocol layer; it has become an application-layer contract implemented by specific servers.
Let’s use the AT Protocol as an example. Bluesky’s direct messages (DMs) are not currently part of the AT Protocol (ATProto). The AT Protocol has nothing that specifies anything for DMs, so DMs are not part of the AT Protocol. The AT Protocol was designed to handle public social interactions, but it does not define private or encrypted messaging. Bluesky implemented DMs at the application level, outside of the core protocol. DMs are centralized and stored on Bluesky’s servers. What is happening with servers like GoToSocial is sort of like that. The difference is that the AT Protocol was designed for different app views; ActivityPub was not.
The issue is the divergence in semantic interpretation that emerges at the interpretation layer. ActivityPub standardizes message delivery and defines common activity types. However, it leaves extension semantics and application-layer policy decisions to individual implementations. Servers may introduce custom JSON-LD namespaces and enforce local behaviors, such as reply restrictions, while remaining protocol-compliant. But, the noise created by divergences are problematic, because it creates unexpected, unintended, and unpredictable behavior.
Divergence appears when implementations rely on non-normative metadata and assume reciprocal handling to preserve a consistent user experience. Behavioral alignment then varies. Syntactic exchange succeeds, but behavioral consistency is not guaranteed. Though instances continue to federate at the transport level, policy semantics and processing logic differ across deployments. Those differences produce inconsistent experiences and results between implementations.
That leads to fragmentation, specifically semantic or behavioral fragmentation and an inconsistent user experiences. ActivityPub ensures syntactic interoperability, but semantic interoperability (everyone interprets and enforces rules the same way) varies. This creates a system that is federated at the transport level yet fragmented in behavior and expectations across implementations. It is funny how the thing that the fediverse touted has made the entire thing very brittle. ActivityPub technically federates correctly, but semantically falls apart once servers start adding their own behavioral rules.
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BlueSky’s Solution To Moderating Is Moderating Without Moderating via Social Proximity
I have noticed a lot of people are confused about why some posts don’t show up on threads, though they are not labeled by the moderation layer. Bluesky has begun using what it calls social neighborhoods (or network proximity) as a ranking signal for replies in threads. Replies from people who are closer to you in the social graph, accounts you follow, interact with, or share mutual connections with, are prioritized and shown more prominently. Replies from accounts that are farther away in that network are down-ranked. They are pushed far down the thread or placed behind “hidden replies.”
Each person gets their own unique view of a thread based on their social graph. It creates the impression that replies from distant users simply don’t exist. This is true even though they’re still technically public and viewable if you expand the thread or adjust filters. Bluesky is explicitly using features of subgraphs to moderate without moderating. Their reasoning is that if you can’t see each other, you can’t harass each other. Ergo, there is nothing to moderate.
Bluesky mentions that here:
https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-31-2025-building-healthier-social-media-update
As a digression, I’m not going to lie: I really enjoyed working on software built on the AT protocol, but their fucking users are so goddamn weird. It’s sort of like enjoying building houses, but hating every single person who moves into them. But, you don’t have to deal with them because you’re just the contractor. That is how I feel about Bluesky. I hate the people. I really like the protocol and infrastructure.
I sort of am a sadist who does enjoy drama, so I do get schadenfreude from people with social media addictions and parasocial fixations who reply to random people on Bluesky, because they don’t realize their replies are disconnected from the author’s thread unless that person is within their network. They aren’t part of the conversation they think they are. They’re algorithmically isolated from everyone else. Their replies aren’t viewable from the author’s thread because of how Bluesky handles social neighborhoods.
Bluesky’s idea of social neighborhoods is about grouping users into overlapping clusters based on real interaction patterns rather than just the follow graph. Unlike Twitter, it does not treat the network as one big public square. Instead, it models networks of “social neighborhoods” made up of people you follow, people who follow you, people you frequently interact with, and people who are closely connected to those groups. They’re soft, probabilistic groupings rather than strict labels.
Everyone does not see the same replies. Bluesky is being a bit vague with “hidden.” Hidden means your reply is still anchored to the thread and can be expanded. There is another way Bluesky can handle this. Bluesky uses social neighborhoods to judge contextual relevance. Replies from people inside or near your social neighborhood are more likely to be shown inline with a thread, expanded by default, or served in feeds. Replies from outside your neighborhood are still public and still indexed, but they’re treated as lower-context contributions.
Basically, if you reply to a thread, you will see it anchored to the conversation, and everyone will see it in search results, as a hashtag, or from your profile, but it will not be accessible via the thread of the person you were replying to. It is like shadow-banning people from threads unless they are strongly networked.
Because people have not been working with the AT Protocol like I have, they assume they are shadow-banned across the entire Bluesky app view. No—everyone is automatically shadow-banned from everyone else unless they are within the same social neighborhood. In other words, you are not part of the conversation you think you are joining because you are not part of their social group.
Your replies will appear in profiles, hashtag feeds, or search results without being visually anchored to the full thread. Discovery impressions are neighborhood-agnostic: they serve content because it matches a query, tag, or activity stream. Once the reply is shown, the app then decides whether it’s worth pulling in the rest of the conversation for you. If the original author and most participants fall outside your neighborhood, Bluesky often chooses not to expand that context automatically.
Bluesky really is trying to avoid having to moderate, so this is their solution. Instead of banning or issuing takedown labels to DIDs, the system lets replies exist everywhere, but not in that particular instance of the thread.
I find this ironic because a large reason why many people are staying on Bluesky and not moving to the fediverse—thank God, because I do not want them there—is discoverability, virality, and engagement.
In case anyone is asking how I know so much about how these algorithms work: I was a consultant on a lot of these types of algorithms, so I certainly hope I’d know how they work, lol. No, you get no more details about the work I’ve done. I have no hand in the algorithm Bluesky is using, but I have proposed and implemented that type of algorithm before.
I have an interest in noetics and the noosphere. A large amount of my ontological work is an extension of my attempts to model domains that have no spatial or temporal coordinates. The question is how do you generalize a metric space that has no physically, spatial properties. I went to school to try to formalize those ideas. Turns out they’re rather useful for digital social networks, too. The ontological analog to spatial distance, when you have no space, is a graph of similarities.
This can be modeled by representing each item as a node in a weighted graph, where edges are weighted by dissimilarity rather than similarity. Highly similar items are connected by low-weight edges, while less similar items are connected by higher-weight edges. Distances in the graph, computed using standard shortest-path algorithms, then correspond to degrees of similarity. Closely related items are separated by short path lengths, while increasingly dissimilar items require longer paths through the graph. It turns out that attempts to generalize metric spaces for noetic domains—to model noetic/psychic spaces—are actually pretty useful for social media algorithms, lol.
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BlueSky’s Solution To Moderating Is Moderating Without Moderating via Social Proximity
I have noticed a lot of people are confused about why some posts don’t show up on threads, though they are not labeled by the moderation layer. Bluesky has begun using what it calls social neighborhoods (or network proximity) as a ranking signal for replies in threads. Replies from people who are closer to you in the social graph, accounts you follow, interact with, or share mutual connections with, are prioritized and shown more prominently. Replies from accounts that are farther away in that network are down-ranked. They are pushed far down the thread or placed behind “hidden replies.”
Each person gets their own unique view of a thread based on their social graph. It creates the impression that replies from distant users simply don’t exist. This is true even though they’re still technically public and viewable if you expand the thread or adjust filters. Bluesky is explicitly using features of subgraphs to moderate without moderating. Their reasoning is that if you can’t see each other, you can’t harass each other. Ergo, there is nothing to moderate.
Bluesky mentions that here:
https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-31-2025-building-healthier-social-media-update
As a digression, I’m not going to lie: I really enjoyed working on software built on the AT protocol, but their fucking users are so goddamn weird. It’s sort of like enjoying building houses, but hating every single person who moves into them. But, you don’t have to deal with them because you’re just the contractor. That is how I feel about Bluesky. I hate the people. I really like the protocol and infrastructure.
I sort of am a sadist who does enjoy drama, so I do get schadenfreude from people with social media addictions and parasocial fixations who reply to random people on Bluesky, because they don’t realize their replies are disconnected from the author’s thread unless that person is within their network. They aren’t part of the conversation they think they are. They’re algorithmically isolated from everyone else. Their replies aren’t viewable from the author’s thread because of how Bluesky handles social neighborhoods.
Bluesky’s idea of social neighborhoods is about grouping users into overlapping clusters based on real interaction patterns rather than just the follow graph. Unlike Twitter, it does not treat the network as one big public square. Instead, it models networks of “social neighborhoods” made up of people you follow, people who follow you, people you frequently interact with, and people who are closely connected to those groups. They’re soft, probabilistic groupings rather than strict labels.
Everyone does not see the same replies. Bluesky is being a bit vague with “hidden.” Hidden means your reply is still anchored to the thread and can be expanded. There is another way Bluesky can handle this. Bluesky uses social neighborhoods to judge contextual relevance. Replies from people inside or near your social neighborhood are more likely to be shown inline with a thread, expanded by default, or served in feeds. Replies from outside your neighborhood are still public and still indexed, but they’re treated as lower-context contributions.
Basically, if you reply to a thread, you will see it anchored to the conversation, and everyone will see it in search results, as a hashtag, or from your profile, but it will not be accessible via the thread of the person you were replying to. It is like shadow-banning people from threads unless they are strongly networked.
Because people have not been working with the AT Protocol like I have, they assume they are shadow-banned across the entire Bluesky app view. No—everyone is automatically shadow-banned from everyone else unless they are within the same social neighborhood. In other words, you are not part of the conversation you think you are joining because you are not part of their social group.
Your replies will appear in profiles, hashtag feeds, or search results without being visually anchored to the full thread. Discovery impressions are neighborhood-agnostic: they serve content because it matches a query, tag, or activity stream. Once the reply is shown, the app then decides whether it’s worth pulling in the rest of the conversation for you. If the original author and most participants fall outside your neighborhood, Bluesky often chooses not to expand that context automatically.
Bluesky really is trying to avoid having to moderate, so this is their solution. Instead of banning or issuing takedown labels to DIDs, the system lets replies exist everywhere, but not in that particular instance of the thread.
I find this ironic because a large reason why many people are staying on Bluesky and not moving to the fediverse—thank God, because I do not want them there—is discoverability, virality, and engagement.
In case anyone is asking how I know so much about how these algorithms work: I was a consultant on a lot of these types of algorithms, so I certainly hope I’d know how they work, lol. No, you get no more details about the work I’ve done. I have no hand in the algorithm Bluesky is using, but I have proposed and implemented that type of algorithm before.
I have an interest in noetics and the noosphere. A large amount of my ontological work is an extension of my attempts to model domains that have no spatial or temporal coordinates. The question is how do you generalize a metric space that has no physically, spatial properties. I went to school to try to formalize those ideas. Turns out they’re rather useful for digital social networks, too. The ontological analog to spatial distance, when you have no space, is a graph of similarities.
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BlueSky’s Solution To Moderating Is Moderating Without Moderating via Social Proximity
I have noticed a lot of people are confused about why some posts don’t show up on threads, though they are not labeled by the moderation layer. Bluesky has begun using what it calls social neighborhoods (or network proximity) as a ranking signal for replies in threads. Replies from people who are closer to you in the social graph, accounts you follow, interact with, or share mutual connections with, are prioritized and shown more prominently. Replies from accounts that are farther away in that network are down-ranked. They are pushed far down the thread or placed behind “hidden replies.”
Each person gets their own unique view of a thread based on their social graph. It creates the impression that replies from distant users simply don’t exist. This is true even though they’re still technically public and viewable if you expand the thread or adjust filters. Bluesky is explicitly using features of subgraphs to moderate without moderating. Their reasoning is that if you can’t see each other, you can’t harass each other. Ergo, there is nothing to moderate.
Bluesky mentions that here:
https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-31-2025-building-healthier-social-media-update
As a digression, I’m not going to lie: I really enjoyed working on software built on the AT protocol, but their fucking users are so goddamn weird. It’s sort of like enjoying building houses, but hating every single person who moves into them. But, you don’t have to deal with them because you’re just the contractor. That is how I feel about Bluesky. I hate the people. I really like the protocol and infrastructure.
I sort of am a sadist who does enjoy drama, so I do get schadenfreude from people with social media addictions and parasocial fixations who reply to random people on Bluesky, because they don’t realize their replies are disconnected from the author’s thread unless that person is within their network. They aren’t part of the conversation they think they are. They’re algorithmically isolated from everyone else. Their replies aren’t viewable from the author’s thread because of how Bluesky handles social neighborhoods.
Bluesky’s idea of social neighborhoods is about grouping users into overlapping clusters based on real interaction patterns rather than just the follow graph. Unlike Twitter, it does not treat the network as one big public square. Instead, it models networks of “social neighborhoods” made up of people you follow, people who follow you, people you frequently interact with, and people who are closely connected to those groups. They’re soft, probabilistic groupings rather than strict labels.
Everyone does not see the same replies. Bluesky is being a bit vague with “hidden.” Hidden means your reply is still anchored to the thread and can be expanded. There is another way Bluesky can handle this. Bluesky uses social neighborhoods to judge contextual relevance. Replies from people inside or near your social neighborhood are more likely to be shown inline with a thread, expanded by default, or served in feeds. Replies from outside your neighborhood are still public and still indexed, but they’re treated as lower-context contributions.
Basically, if you reply to a thread, you will see it anchored to the conversation, and everyone will see it in search results, as a hashtag, or from your profile, but it will not be accessible via the thread of the person you were replying to. It is like shadow-banning people from threads unless they are strongly networked.
Because people have not been working with the AT Protocol like I have, they assume they are shadow-banned across the entire Bluesky app view. No—everyone is automatically shadow-banned from everyone else unless they are within the same social neighborhood. In other words, you are not part of the conversation you think you are joining because you are not part of their social group.
Your replies will appear in profiles, hashtag feeds, or search results without being visually anchored to the full thread. Discovery impressions are neighborhood-agnostic: they serve content because it matches a query, tag, or activity stream. Once the reply is shown, the app then decides whether it’s worth pulling in the rest of the conversation for you. If the original author and most participants fall outside your neighborhood, Bluesky often chooses not to expand that context automatically.
Bluesky really is trying to avoid having to moderate, so this is their solution. Instead of banning or issuing takedown labels to DIDs, the system lets replies exist everywhere, but not in that particular instance of the thread.
I find this ironic because a large reason why many people are staying on Bluesky and not moving to the fediverse—thank God, because I do not want them there—is discoverability, virality, and engagement.
In case anyone is asking how I know so much about how these algorithms work: I was a consultant on a lot of these types of algorithms, so I certainly hope I’d know how they work, lol. No, you get no more details about the work I’ve done. I have no hand in the algorithm Bluesky is using, but I have proposed and implemented that type of algorithm before.
I have an interest in noetics and the noosphere. A large amount of my ontological work is an extension of my attempts to model domains that have no spatial or temporal coordinates. The question is how do you generalize a metric space that has no physically, spatial properties. I went to school to try to formalize those ideas. Turns out they’re rather useful for digital social networks, too. The ontological analog to spatial distance, when you have no space, is a graph of similarities.
This can be modeled by representing each item as a node in a weighted graph, where edges are weighted by dissimilarity rather than similarity. Highly similar items are connected by low-weight edges, while less similar items are connected by higher-weight edges. Distances in the graph, computed using standard shortest-path algorithms, then correspond to degrees of similarity. Closely related items are separated by short path lengths, while increasingly dissimilar items require longer paths through the graph. It turns out that attempts to generalize metric spaces for noetic domains—to model noetic/psychic spaces—are actually pretty useful for social media algorithms, lol.
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BlueSky’s Solution To Moderating Is Moderating Without Moderating via Social Proximity
I have noticed a lot of people are confused about why some posts don’t show up on threads, though they are not labeled by the moderation layer. Bluesky has begun using what it calls social neighborhoods (or network proximity) as a ranking signal for replies in threads. Replies from people who are closer to you in the social graph, accounts you follow, interact with, or share mutual connections with, are prioritized and shown more prominently. Replies from accounts that are farther away in that network are down-ranked. They are pushed far down the thread or placed behind “hidden replies.”
Each person gets their own unique view of a thread based on their social graph. It creates the impression that replies from distant users simply don’t exist. This is true even though they’re still technically public and viewable if you expand the thread or adjust filters. Bluesky is explicitly using features of subgraphs to moderate without moderating. Their reasoning is that if you can’t see each other, you can’t harass each other. Ergo, there is nothing to moderate.
Bluesky mentions that here:
https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-31-2025-building-healthier-social-media-update
As a digression, I’m not going to lie: I really enjoyed working on software built on the AT protocol, but their fucking users are so goddamn weird. It’s sort of like enjoying building houses, but hating every single person who moves into them. But, you don’t have to deal with them because you’re just the contractor. That is how I feel about Bluesky. I hate the people. I really like the protocol and infrastructure.
I sort of am a sadist who does enjoy drama, so I do get schadenfreude from people with social media addictions and parasocial fixations who reply to random people on Bluesky, because they don’t realize their replies are disconnected from the author’s thread unless that person is within their network. They aren’t part of the conversation they think they are. They’re algorithmically isolated from everyone else. Their replies aren’t viewable from the author’s thread because of how Bluesky handles social neighborhoods.
Bluesky’s idea of social neighborhoods is about grouping users into overlapping clusters based on real interaction patterns rather than just the follow graph. Unlike Twitter, it does not treat the network as one big public square. Instead, it models networks of “social neighborhoods” made up of people you follow, people who follow you, people you frequently interact with, and people who are closely connected to those groups. They’re soft, probabilistic groupings rather than strict labels.
Everyone does not see the same replies. Bluesky is being a bit vague with “hidden.” Hidden means your reply is still anchored to the thread and can be expanded. There is another way Bluesky can handle this. Bluesky uses social neighborhoods to judge contextual relevance. Replies from people inside or near your social neighborhood are more likely to be shown inline with a thread, expanded by default, or served in feeds. Replies from outside your neighborhood are still public and still indexed, but they’re treated as lower-context contributions.
Basically, if you reply to a thread, you will see it anchored to the conversation, and everyone will see it in search results, as a hashtag, or from your profile, but it will not be accessible via the thread of the person you were replying to. It is like shadow-banning people from threads unless they are strongly networked.
Because people have not been working with the AT Protocol like I have, they assume they are shadow-banned across the entire Bluesky app view. No—everyone is automatically shadow-banned from everyone else unless they are within the same social neighborhood. In other words, you are not part of the conversation you think you are joining because you are not part of their social group.
Your replies will appear in profiles, hashtag feeds, or search results without being visually anchored to the full thread. Discovery impressions are neighborhood-agnostic: they serve content because it matches a query, tag, or activity stream. Once the reply is shown, the app then decides whether it’s worth pulling in the rest of the conversation for you. If the original author and most participants fall outside your neighborhood, Bluesky often chooses not to expand that context automatically.
Bluesky really is trying to avoid having to moderate, so this is their solution. Instead of banning or issuing takedown labels to DIDs, the system lets replies exist everywhere, but not in that particular instance of the thread.
I find this ironic because a large reason why many people are staying on Bluesky and not moving to the fediverse—thank God, because I do not want them there—is discoverability, virality, and engagement.
In case anyone is asking how I know so much about how these algorithms work: I was a consultant on a lot of these types of algorithms, so I certainly hope I’d know how they work, lol. No, you get no more details about the work I’ve done. I have no hand in the algorithm Bluesky is using, but I have proposed and implemented that type of algorithm before.
I have an interest in noetics and the noosphere. A large amount of my ontological work is an extension of my attempts to model domains that have no spatial or temporal coordinates. The question is how do you generalize a metric space that has no physically, spatial properties. I went to school to try to formalize those ideas. Turns out they’re rather useful for digital social networks, too. The ontological analog to spatial distance, when you have no space, is a graph of similarities.
This can be modeled by representing each item as a node in a weighted graph, where edges are weighted by dissimilarity rather than similarity. Highly similar items are connected by low-weight edges, while less similar items are connected by higher-weight edges. Distances in the graph, computed using standard shortest-path algorithms, then correspond to degrees of similarity. Closely related items are separated by short path lengths, while increasingly dissimilar items require longer paths through the graph. It turns out that attempts to generalize metric spaces for noetic domains—to model noetic/psychic spaces—are actually pretty useful for social media algorithms, lol.
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Los Nodos (suscriptores) ya tienen acceso al Ágora, el nuevo espacio de foros dentro de Plétora.
Ante nuevas prácticas de #Discord estamos moviendo la conversación a un espacio propio, más ético y cuidado.
Gracias por sostener la comunidad Pletórica 💛 https://pletnet.io/Agora
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Los Nodos (suscriptores) ya tienen acceso al Ágora, el nuevo espacio de foros dentro de Plétora.
Ante nuevas prácticas de #Discord estamos moviendo la conversación a un espacio propio, más ético y cuidado.
Gracias por sostener la comunidad Pletórica 💛 https://pletnet.io/Agora
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These are the DC criminals the authorities should be looking for 24/7. They use helicopters & drones & eavesdropping devices, imsi catchers & rogue access points & stollen IP & smart TVs & ... for their criminal intents.
#VAA #NTBS #Army #cyber criminals
#darkweb #forums #chat to be #exposed
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These are the DC criminals the authorities should be looking for 24/7. They use helicopters & drones & eavesdropping devices, imsi catchers & rogue access points & stollen IP & smart TVs & ... for their criminal intents.
#VAA #NTBS #Army #cyber criminals
#darkweb #forums #chat to be #exposed
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These are the DC criminals the authorities should be looking for 24/7. They use helicopters & drones & eavesdropping devices, imsi catchers & rogue access points & stollen IP & smart TVs & ... for their criminal intents.
#VAA #NTBS #Army #cyber criminals
#darkweb #forums #chat to be #exposed
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The Evening Sun | Norwich Garden Club And Town & Country Garden Club Announce ‘Home For The Holidays’ Decorating Contest Winners https://www.allforgardening.com/1548720/the-evening-sun-norwich-garden-club-and-town-country-garden-club-announce-home-for-the-holidays-decorating-contest-winners/ #and #announce #ChenangoCounty #classifieds #club #community #contest #country #CurrentEvents #DailyNewspaper #Decorating #EveningSun #for #forums #garden #holidays #home #Marimo. #NewYork #news #newspaper #Norwich #obituaries #OnlineNewspaper #oxford #Sherburne #the #town #winner's
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🚀 AI's #love affair with the #emdash is so intense even #Emily #Dickinson is blushing. 🤦♂️ Apparently, these models can't resist the urge to dash through text with such flair that mere mortals are abandoning it out of sheer embarrassment. 🤷♀️ Meanwhile, #OpenAI users are left scratching their heads in #forums, trying to teach their bots to lay off the #drama. 🤔
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 15th #GreaterBayArea #International #NewEnergyVehicle #Technology and #SupplyChain #Expo (#NEAS #GBA 2025) from October 22–24, 2025, at the #Guangzhou Airport Expo #Center, #China. Covering the entire new #energy #vehicle #industry #chain through #forums, supply chain #docking #events, and year-round #business #matchmaking, it aims to provide a #global #communication and #cooperation #platform driving the #development of the #NewEnergy #auto industry. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/15th-greater-bay-area-international-new-energy-vehicle-technology-and-supply-chain-expo-neas-gba-2025/
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I've been working on implementing XEP-0496 (Pubsub Node Relationships) and XEP-0499 (Pubsub Extended Discovery) in Libervia to allow a tree-like hierarchy in pubsub nodes.
This is a big deal for many reasons, from better organisation to features which become possible (think about file sharing, forums, etc).
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The Evening Sun | Bandera Family Alliance Serving Free Christmas Meals In Chenango County https://www.diningandcooking.com/2126793/the-evening-sun-bandera-family-alliance-serving-free-christmas-meals-in-chenango-county-2/ #alliance #Bandera #Chenango #ChenangoCounty #christmas #ChristmasAppetizes #ChristmasDesserts #ChristmasDinner #ChristmasDinnerRecipes #ChristmasFood #ChristmasRecipes #ChristmasSides #classifieds #community #county #CurrentEvents #DailyNewspaper #EveningSun #family #forums #free #in #meals #NewYork #news #newspaper #Norwich #obituaries #OnlineNewspaper #oxford #serving #Sherburne
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Thanks to the great people on #XDA #Forums my old and pretty much unusable #SamsungTablet #SMT295 is now running Android 14(with #noGAPPS of course) and it's usable again!
Clearly it is not lighting fast, but compared to the slow and blown stock software it looks like so.
