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  1. Arthaw

    So nannte sich das hirnlose Gesäuge mit seiner IP-Adresse aus den USA und seinem nicht so gut programmierten Spamskript, das gestern abend um 18:54 Uhr den folgenden Kommentar auf Unser täglich Spam ablegen wollte, aber an seiner technischen Inkompetenz gescheitert ist: Hi there, blockchain friends! Wanted to share a detailed piece about market movements. It compares AI-based strategies in trading world. Really solid perspective. […]

    spam.tamagothi.de/2026/04/25/a

  2. Arthaw

    So nannte sich das hirnlose Gesäuge mit seiner IP-Adresse aus den USA und seinem nicht so gut programmierten Spamskript, das gestern abend um 18:54 Uhr den folgenden Kommentar auf Unser täglich Spam ablegen wollte, aber an seiner technischen Inkompetenz gescheitert ist: Hi there, blockchain friends! Wanted to share a detailed piece about market movements. It compares AI-based strategies in trading world. Really solid perspective. […]

    spam.tamagothi.de/2026/04/25/a

  3. Arthaw

    So nannte sich das hirnlose Gesäuge mit seiner IP-Adresse aus den USA und seinem nicht so gut programmierten Spamskript, das gestern abend um 18:54 Uhr den folgenden Kommentar auf Unser täglich Spam ablegen wollte, aber an seiner technischen Inkompetenz gescheitert ist: Hi there, blockchain friends! Wanted to share a detailed piece about market movements. It compares AI-based strategies in trading world. Really solid perspective. […]

    spam.tamagothi.de/2026/04/25/a

  4. Arthaw

    So nannte sich das hirnlose Gesäuge mit seiner IP-Adresse aus den USA und seinem nicht so gut programmierten Spamskript, das gestern abend um 18:54 Uhr den folgenden Kommentar auf Unser täglich Spam ablegen wollte, aber an seiner technischen Inkompetenz gescheitert ist: Hi there, blockchain friends! Wanted to share a detailed piece about market movements. It compares AI-based strategies in trading world. Really solid perspective. […]

    spam.tamagothi.de/2026/04/25/a

  5. Pure dystopia that people can't tell the difference between :

    1. « AI slop » : "Artificial Intelligence" generated text, or, more precisely, large language model based chatbots text ; and

    2. « AI slop » : "(neuro-)Atypical Intelligence" overshared text, or, more precisely, oversharing neurodivergent's largely overthought language's markdowned or BBCoded text.

    Post Scriptum.
    This post redaction time : 20 minutes.

    #AI #NoAI #Chatgpt #LLM #AIslop
    #Neurodivergent #NeuroAtypical #NeuroA #ActuallyAutistic #Autism #ADHD #Dystopia #MarkDown #BBCode #EnrichedText #TextEnriched #FormatedText #textformat

  6. Pure dystopia that people can't tell the difference between :

    1. « AI slop » : "Artificial Intelligence" generated text, or, more precisely, large language model based chatbots text ; and

    2. « AI slop » : "(neuro-)Atypical Intelligence" overshared text, or, more precisely, oversharing neurodivergent's largely overthought language's markdowned or BBCoded text.

    Post Scriptum.
    This post redaction time : 20 minutes.

    #AI #NoAI #Chatgpt #LLM #AIslop
    #Neurodivergent #NeuroAtypical #NeuroA #ActuallyAutistic #Autism #ADHD #Dystopia #MarkDown #BBCode #EnrichedText #TextEnriched #FormatedText #textformat

  7. Pure dystopia that people can't tell the difference between :

    1. « AI slop » : "Artificial Intelligence" generated text, or, more precisely, large language model based chatbots text ; and

    2. « AI slop » : "(neuro-)Atypical Intelligence" overshared text, or, more precisely, oversharing neurodivergent's largely overthought language's markdowned or BBCoded text.

    Post Scriptum.
    This post redaction time : 20 minutes.

    #AI #NoAI #Chatgpt #LLM #AIslop
    #Neurodivergent #NeuroAtypical #NeuroA #ActuallyAutistic #Autism #ADHD #Dystopia #MarkDown #BBCode #EnrichedText #TextEnriched #FormatedText #textformat

  8. Pure dystopia that people can't tell the difference between :

    1. « AI slop » : "Artificial Intelligence" generated text, or, more precisely, large language model based chatbots text ; and

    2. « AI slop » : "(neuro-)Atypical Intelligence" overshared text, or, more precisely, oversharing neurodivergent's largely overthought language's markdowned or BBCoded text.

    Post Scriptum.
    This post redaction time : 20 minutes.

    #AI #NoAI #Chatgpt #LLM #AIslop
    #Neurodivergent #NeuroAtypical #NeuroA #ActuallyAutistic #Autism #ADHD #Dystopia #MarkDown #BBCode #EnrichedText #TextEnriched #FormatedText #textformat

  9. Pure dystopia that people can't tell the difference between :

    1. « AI slop » : "Artificial Intelligence" generated text, or, more precisely, large language model based chatbots text ; and

    2. « AI slop » : "(neuro-)Atypical Intelligence" overshared text, or, more precisely, oversharing neurodivergent's largely overthought language's markdowned or BBCoded text.

    Post Scriptum.
    This post redaction time : 20 minutes.

    #AI #NoAI #Chatgpt #LLM #AIslop
    #Neurodivergent #NeuroAtypical #NeuroA #ActuallyAutistic #Autism #ADHD #Dystopia #MarkDown #BBCode #EnrichedText #TextEnriched #FormatedText #textformat

  10. #Markdown Is a Disaster: Why and What to Do Instead
    karl-voit.at/2025/08/17/Markdo

    Here's my article where I summarize the subtle and no so subtle downsides when you choose Markdown for your information instead of a different markup syntax that doesn't come with all the downsides of #MD.

    #publicvoit #orgdown #orgmode #LML #pandoc #rst #restructuredtext #asciidoc #Wikitext #BBCode #Creole #Crossmark #Djot #CommonMark #lockin

  11. 🆕 pandoc 3.8.3 🎉

    This release adds three new input formats (, , and ) and one new output format ( + variants).

    It also fixes a number of bugs (including some regressions in 3.8). See the changelog for full details.

    Thanks to all who contributed!

    github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases

  12. #terraPreta #permaCulture #permaCultura #permaKultur #fediTips

    Some additional notes and observations
    @HorcaDobleMango

    #carbonActivado tanslates in german into #AktivKohle, that's the stuff you find in high quality filters, including filters for #fishTank's, #aquarium's and filres for drinking water as they have the capabilty to filter out all kind of chemicals from air and water. That's the same effect that carbon creates by storing chemical elements in it's space and structure in the soil for #plants and #microorganisms.

    Creating carbon from wood by explosively cooling it down throwing it into water, transforming it into "active carbon" resolves the arduous task of creating carbon in an anaerobic setup, an interesting point because we could come up with some kind of #rocketStove with a continious feeding process, seperating glowing carbon from the rest, letting it somehow roll into a water recipient while using the heat created to warm up our houses in the winter. As of now not solved in this idea is what to do with the water steam that is produced, or even to think about some secondery use for that steam. These "ideas/considerations" are actually the result of:
    * There is no waste, only primary materials
    * Every element in a system has to fulfill at least two goals

    What we couldn't find out into deep till now is a the issue that apparently carbon can be #hydrophobe or #hydrophilic and which process makes it hydrophillic. We guess that this is in part an important detail as the carbon harbors not only chemical elements but also is a kind of apartment building for microorganisms and their are probably different apartments for aerobic and anaerobic microorganisms.
    Perhaps in the case of your soil some hydrophobic carbon could be even the better option.

    Our question about the kind of soil, in part depending of the region you are from, is due to the observations that carbon to create terra preta is very usefull for old leached soils like those of the #Amazon basin, #SouthAmerica and #Africa in particular, as well as probably for example the sandy soils of #Brandenburg and #Mecklenburg-Vorpommern or regions of Spain, while the benefits in soils like Hessen, Western Germany in general and most likely the whole of central europe aren't that extraordinary, even tho they are most likely always beneficial.

    With respect to the profile @permaculture, that is a friendica forum page for the fediVerse.
    "Our setup" includes the forum page server tupambae.org/ as well as the friendica server tupambae.com/ harboring also the forum page profiles @permaculture for english and french and @permakultur for german. If you subsribe to a #forumPage and mention that profile in a inicial post (toot) that post will be reshared by that profile page and send to all it's subscribers!

    The dot com server is for single profiles and harbors for example a friendica profile @[email protected]. That profile, besides being a standard account in the fediverse actually mirrors publicacions of this mastodon profile over here, in part examplifying the permaculture principal:
    * Every element in a system as to be covered at least by two elements/aspects.

    At the same time by using #friendica we have the benefits of all the extras that a fediVerse server software brings to the table for profiles and projects like:
    * #imageGallery
    * #calendar
    * #personalNotes and #privateMessage
    * #directory for to sort publications
    * no character limite
    * enhanced text editing tools like #bbCode and #markdown
    * #postPreview

    simultanios cross publications:
    * by email
    * to other platforms like #diaspora, #bluesky and #tumblr

    In other words, a friendica server for the fediVerse is not only a perfect choice for "Fachbereichsprofile" of a #university like
    @unikassel, something like social.uni-kassel.de, it's also extremely usefull for projects and larger articles.

    Please keep us updated in particular about this very interesting project of yours, actually the best would be as answers in this very thread, so we can save your content in our setup and spread it into the #fediVerse.
    👍

  13. @silverpill Who are the longformers anyway?

    They're those who either are commercial or looking for professional/commercial users or both. Flipboard. Automattic (WordPress). Ghost. These kinds.

    They know themselves. They know each other. And they know Mastodon. And that's it.

    None of them has ever heard of Pleroma or Akkoma.

    None of them has ever heard of Misskey or the Forkeys.

    None of them has ever heard of Mitra.

    None of them has ever heard of GoToSocial.

    None of them has ever heard of Hollo.

    None of them has ever heard of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte, even though Friendica and Hubzilla are both older than Mastodon. And apparently, neither has @Helge. But then again, Friendica and its nomadic, security-enhanced descendants are being overlooked by almost everyone. That's why there's always on-going work for features to be "introduced to the Fediverse" which Friendica has had for a decade and a half.

    Granted, the HTML support on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can be summarised with "yes". But elaborate tables that show what either of them supports how would be very useful.

    Also, granted, everything I've mentioned above (normally) uses something else than HTML for formatting in the frontend. For example, Misskey and all Forkeys use MFM ("Misskey-Flavoured Markdown"). Friendica uses extended BBcode with the option to use Markdown instead. Hubzilla uses even more extended BBcode. (streams) and Forte can use the same even more extended BBcode and Markdown and HTML at the same time within the same post, although not all markup languages support all features.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Mitra #GoToSocial #Hollo #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #LongFormContent #BBcode #Markdown #HTML #TextFormatting
  14. It is so nice, that the #godot output window is now a richtext label that allows #bbcode .

    This also means you can use the same code to show this in the output window or any UI richtext label in your game.

    docs.godotengine.org/en/stable

  15. Schade nur, daß es nicht nur nicht über Friendica hinaus föderiert, sondern Friendica statt dessen an Nicht-Friendica-Server oder zumindest an Hubzilla und dessen Nachfahren den rohen BBcode sendet. Aber das tut es kurioserweise auch bei z. B. [em][/em], [strong][/strong] und den Varianten von [abstract][/abstract].

    Vielleicht wird fälschlicherweise davon ausgegangen, daß Hubzilla & Nachf. auch BBcode parsen, der über ActivityPub oder diaspora* reinkommt. Nur rechnen die damit nicht, also tun sie es auch nicht.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #BBcode
  16. So you like as a blogging engine, but don't really warm up to ?

    @Fraenkiman has got you covered! Check out his Parsedown plugin that brings to FlatPress: wiki.flatpress.org/res:plugins

    M⬇️

  17. @ᴚ uɐᗡ It's called a quote. Standard feature on Friendica, Hubzilla (where I am), (streams), the now-deceased rest of the family, Misskey and all its forks etc., basically everywhere that isn't Mastodon.

    Within Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams), it's handled basically the same way as on good old bulletin-board forums: in BBcode.
    [quote]if the process is really that involved and if they can fix it[/quote]

    (streams) also has ways of doing that with Markdown or HTML.

    There are various different ways of getting that code, also depending on whether one replies to a post or a comment.

    ActivityPub uses Rich Text for formatting. So Friendica converts this into the corresponding formatting in Rich Text, and on Hubzilla and (streams), the optional ActivityPub bridge PubCrawl does that.

    Mastodon, in turn, has introduced some Rich Text displaying capabilities with version 4.0.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #TextFormatting #BBcode #RichText
  18. @jevko I've personally been quite fond of #BBCode. HTML is too unwieldy for things like forum posts, but Markdown is too simplistic and sometimes unintuitive (compare HTML and BBCode's vs. Markdown's handling of links) and can lead to situations where it uses elements that I've meant as plaintext and mis-parses them as formatting indicators.

    BBCode, like HTML, uses an uncommon character (the square bracket) as a formatting indicator, making formatting very clear, but unlike HTML's angle brackets, they can be typed without Shift on the keyboard, making BBCode quite convenient for typing.

  19. Question to the #Friendica crowd: is there any way to simplify post creation, probably with #addons ? I’d love to have a more #wysiwyg experience, in particular in regards to images and text formatting, for a little community of non-techie people I am thinking to set up. It is difficult to remember that you need to actually go to the image and edit it to enable public visibility (otherwise nobody will be able to see it in your post, and once it is federated you really can’t reliably change permissions retrospectively as those wont federate) and also the addition of alt text is cumbersome. If I could, I’d really love to get rid of visible #bbcode altogether in the composition window but I assume this is probably not possible. Is there any editor addon to do so? I am aware of the #markdown addon, but this doesn’t solve the issue with easier image embedding and handling. Happy for any hints in the right direction. BBCode and the handling of images and links etc. with bbcode tags are the two issues that stop me to use Friendica for this community as I really doubt people who have been using Facebook Groups and drag and drop functionality so far are easily getting their heads round this…
  20. @maegul @Jeff Sikes @Kainoa @Chris Trottier This would have to happen on the server side. And this, in turn, would work the best if it happened directly on the instance servers, and if it was part of the #Fediverse projects themselves.

    We've seen what happens when you rely on a third party. It tends to lean towards something centralised, either because someone deliberately only designs a centralised service for it, e.g. #Mastodon full-text search, or because nobody but the devs can be bothered to run an instance, e.g. #Guppe.

    Also, decentralised third-party services will have to be connected to Fediverse instances by the admins manually because the admins will have to decide which instance to connect. Many admins won't take that step at all because they've stopped reading the manual the very moment their instance started working reasonably well, and so they don't even know that they have to connect to such a service.

    That said, the Fediverse already speaks one common formatting language, and that's #RichText. #CalcKey translates the #Markdown in out-going messages to Rich Text. #Hubzilla translates the #BBcode in out-going messages to Rich Text. #Streams translates Markdown, BBcode and #HTML to Rich Text. And so forth.

    Also, translation between message formats will remain half-useless as long as certain projects show a severe lack of capabilities of displaying messages, and this won't change anytime soon, if ever.

    Like it or not, #Mastodon fans, but Mastodon is the worst offender. It can't have more than four images in one post, and it can't embed images within the text. All stuff that has been possible on projects older than Mastodon even before there was Mastodon.

    On #Hubzilla (and not only there, but just to take one example), I can design any regular message like a blog post:
    Text block 1
    Image 1
    Text block 2
    Image 2
    Text block 3
    Image 3
    Text block 4
    Image 4
    Text block 5
    Image 5
    Text block 6
    Image 6
    Text block 7
    Image 7
    Text block 8
    Image 8
    Text block 9

    This is perfectly normal. And this is perfectly legit. #Friendica, Hubzilla and #Streams were deliberately designed to make this possible. And while Hubzilla has an optional extra functionality for long-form articles, Friendica and (streams) only have this one way of long-form posting. So, again, this is normal and legit and intentional.

    On Mastodon, however, the very same post looks like this:
    Text block 1

    Text block 2

    Text block 3

    Text block 4

    Text block 5

    Text block 6

    Text block 7

    Text block 8

    Text block 9
    Image 8 | Image 7
    Image 6 | Image 5

    The images are ripped out of their context, reversed in their order, and only four even make it into what Mastodon displays.

    The only thing a "translator" could possibly do here is put the images in the correct order. Still, only four would make it onto Mastodon timelines due to Mastodon's limitations, only that it'll be the first four instead of the last four. And also due to Mastodon's limitations, they will still end up after the end of the post instead of embedded between text blocks where they belong.

    In the opposite direction, from Mastodon to Hubzilla, a "translator" could be a bit more useful. Currently, when a Mastodon toot with multiple images appears on Hubzilla, the images are put ahead of the text and in reverse order. What the "translator" could do (unless Hubzilla introduces that first) is embed the images at the end of the post in "reverse reverse" order. I'd suggest to also resize them (non-destructively; Hubzilla does that by default with its own images) so that four of them can be shown in a 2x2 arrangement just like on Mastodon, but on Hubzilla, that would cost them the alt-text.
  21. Does anyone know the best way for me to add #ALTtext to images on #Friendica? Do I have to use #BBcode as Google suggests? (wiki.friendi.ca/docs/image_des…)
  22. @LucyWildboots 🏳️‍🌈 @clacke post fosdem 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Chris Trottier @Kevin Davidson @Sarah Brown @IceCubesApp @Mona app I'm not sure if it's wise to give mobile apps for the #Fediverse direct access to all features of all Fediverse projects.

    At first glance, it sounds convenient. You install one app, and you can do everything with it on every project.

    But imagine some poor sap who has just migrated from Twitter to Mastodon, who loads a Fediverse app from the app store, and who ends up with an outright monster of an app with a UI cluttered with greyed-out options and menu items.

    Why is it so cluttered? Because the devs also included full #Hubzilla support. And I mean full support for all features of Hubzilla channels with all apps activated, including full access to all account and channel options and settings, including a post editor with buttons for the whole extent of Hubzilla's bored-up #BBcode implementation, including article, webpage and wiki page editors (which partly support #Markdown and #HTML on top of BBcode), including connecting your phone to the #WebDAV, #CalDAV and #CardDAV servers included in your channel, including even support for creating and managing nomadic clones.

    And Hubzilla is something that's even cumbersome to handle in a desktop browser. Now imagine all this packed into a mobile app.

    Such an all-in-one app would also confuse people to have access to multiple separate calendar systems through the app. One is a public calendar as available on #Friendica, Hubzilla and #Streams. The second one is a CalDAV-equipped engine for private calendars which Hubzilla has in addition to the public calendar, and which in itself supports multiple calendars, not to mention calendars on other channels which gave you write access. The third one is a collaborative calendar as offered by #Mobilizon.

    Oh, and it'd of course support #OwnCast as well as the live stream feature included in #PeerTube to the point of enabling you to live-stream through one of these projects how you use the self-same app to handle another Fediverse project.

    Last but not least, every update on every Fediverse project that comes with new or changed features will require an upgrade for the app.
  23. @gordoooo_z @PhenomX6 @futurebird @ink8 Whatever Eugen decides at this point it’s irrelevant. He’s pretty much lost his grip over holding the Fediverse brand as secondary to the notion of a fantasy “mastodon network” when he gave that Time Magazine interview two months ago in which the word “Fediverse” appeared not one single time - that caused enormous, untold damages including confusion that remains in the news media and disenfranchisement of large swaths of developers and users alike on not just other platforms, but mastodon instances themselves.

    There’s really no such thing as toots anymore, Eugen himself refers to “Posts” and “Quote Posts”, and the submit button in mastodon now says “publish”. The reason #Misskey calls them “notes” is because that’s what they are actually called in #ActivityPub - there are also other types, that other platforms use as well, including “article”, although, instances like #qoto have set the character count for notes at 65535 🙂

    It’s been covered in this thread already that Quote Posts are simply beyond the control of mastodon devs, Eugen’s edicts, or local mastodon users or admins, because most other platforms support it and there isn’t anything #mastopub can do about it. In Misskey, users can disallow it, but that only affects other local users, so it’s s moot point (except for silo instances).

    There are very few Fediverse platforms that aren’t taking advantage of most things that are possible, for example, #Soapbox now has federated events, and introduced custom emoji reactions like Misskey has, and live chat - Misskey’s traditionally led the way with these federating features with #Calckey going even further.

    Some platforms however, intentionally incorporate a leaner set of features; #Smithereen is one example, it doesn’t even sccomodate boosts, which harkens back to #Myspace, #VKontakte (aka, “VK” - not sure I spelled that right), and very early #Faceplant days. #Epicyon has anti-silo capabilities baked in.

    #Mitra has #Substack style subscriptions at it’s core. Anyone can subscribe remotely from any Fediverse server instance where the user can receive DMs - and in congruence with privacy concerns that are typically expected for Fediverse implementations, it’s based on #Monero (XMR).

    Most platforms also support #Markdown, with Cakckey being perhaps supporting the greatest superset IIRC, including #LaTEX, and #Friendica, being much older than msstodon, has continued to evolve over the past decade and still has support for #BBCode too, and direct links for uploading images for those who prefer to.

    I didn’t see any mention of Markdown support when I bothered to look at the mastopub roadmap, yet even on that platform, Quote Posts are all throughout the stream and people boost and reply to them as the time - and, as mentioned earlier, anyone can create a post, simply pasting the link from someone else’s post, and then boost that… Voila! Local #Quote_Post.

    mastodon was successful in its arrogance of leveraging some pretty graphics and welcoming verbiage into a brand that Eugen weaponized against virtually all other Fediverse platforms, and now, with all of the fine forks like #Hometown and several newcomers, we’ll soon be seeing hardforking as a result of that hostility.

    But not just forks, funding and ambitious development as evidenced by existing and emerging platforms like #Cloudflare’s #Wildebeest, Tumbler, and the very unique, #Django based Takahē Fediverse server that I wrote about here:

    https://tallship.writeas.com/takahe-a-new-fediverse-paradigm

    Average people are already migrating in larger numbers everyday away from the archaic mastodonian resource hog to other, more capable and promising (and friendlier) platforms elsewhere in the Fediverse that have integrated and fully support #masto_migration, and even ones that don’t (yet) haver that feature.

    Unlike other dinosaurs and the eponymous mammal for which Eugen chose the namesake of his #TootSuite product, we shouldn’t expect extinction for his platform, but the apathy and indifference levels are rising, as is the enmity in many sectors of the community for what others perceive as a betrayal (or sellout), and that kind of self-inflicted damage is often difficult to mitigate, with waves of disenchantment reverberating get into the future… Just look at what happened to #SourceForge - it still technically exists, but never recovered after the community betrayal it committed years ago.

    And finally, there’s a irony so obvious that’s it’s not even plausible to deny… Eugen subverted the very rudimentary principal that the Fediverse network is ideologically predicated upon - #DeSoc… There’s no question that his goals shifted to that if building a silo for himself, at least to some great degree. Very sad.

    An interesting thing about condescending others, you find yourself alone and isolated in an otherwise vibrant, busy world.

    #tallship #Takahe #ActivityPub #privacy #community_values #FOSS

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  24. @Ada @defcon42/Mirko @[email protected] To me, it sounds more like some #Mastodon users, especially those who came in through the #TwitterMigration, actually can't stand there being something else in the #Fediverse than their beloved Mastodon. When they caught their first glimpse of the Fediverse beyond Mastodon, they reacted much like the people of Krikkit when they caught their first glimpse of the universe beyond Krikkit: "It has to go!"

    They make themselves and each other believe that Mastodon is superior to any other Fediverse project in just about any regard imaginable while apparently completely refusing to learn about those other projects. They're supported in their belief by mass media only ever writing about Mastodon and the number of Mastodon users.

    However, mass media only write about Mastodon because they simply don't know a thing about the rest of the Fediverse, and they didn't know a thing about Mastodon until the #TwitterTakeover had actually happened, and the second wave of former #birbsite users had come flooding into Mastodon in such numbers that it was impossible to ignore even for those who act as if #FLOSS doesn't exist.

    As for the numbers of Mastodon users, they're so high because I guess more than 90% of all Mastodon users still don't know that the Fediverse is not only Mastodon, because they have never heard of anything else in the Fediverse. Mastodon was pretty much the only Fediverse project advertised on #BirbSocial when this was still possible.

    There are various reasons why Mastodon users don't spread across the Fediverse in masses. None of it is because Mastodon is superior to everything else because, truth be told, it isn't. I'll come to this later. One reason is, again, that the vast majority of them still don't know anything else. Another one is because it was hard enough to get used to Mastodon after years of using #Twitter, and they don't want to get used to yet another platform. And another one is that it's hard to move from Mastodon to something else and take your account or at least your connections with you.

    Another reason may be because people don't need anything beyond microblogging, and that's what Mastodon does. Now, sorry for all those of you who fight tooth and claw to defend Mastodon against the competition, but #Akkoma does microblogging, too. With extra features beyond Mastodon, some of which Mastodon users have been pestering Eugen Rochko to include in Mastodon for ages (e.g. "quote retweet"). All while being more lightweight and requiring fewer server resources than Mastodon. Oh, and it federates with Mastodon.

    Other Fediverse projects aren't even competition for Mastodon because they specialise in something else. @Pixelfed specialises in posting pictures, much like #Instagram. @PeerTube specialises in video upload and streaming, not too dissimilarly from #YouTube. #Plume and #WriteFreely specialise in distraction-free traditional blogging, much like #Medium. #Lemmy specialises in groups and posting and discussing news, much like #Reddit or #HackerNews. You can't claim that Mastodon is better at each of these things than these platforms.

    And then there are the jacks-of-all-trades which are usually filed under either "macroblogging" or "like #Facebook ". They weren't launched to have something that goes beyond Mastodon because their history reaches far back before Mastodon. Mastodon was launched in 2016 (and not 2022 like many believe). #Friendica was launched in early 2010, even before the crowdfunding campaign for the development of #Diaspora started. And in that early stage, Friendica, then still named #Mistpark, was vastly more powerful than Diaspora* ever got and also vastly more powerful than Mastodon 13 years later.

    #Hubzilla, created by the same man as Friendica, is the most extreme one of them all. For starters, it eliminates the need for multiple accounts by having multiple independent channels with separate identities on the same account. Each channel can have multiple profiles like on Friendica so you can present your channel differently to individual contacts or groups of them and differently again to the general public.

    It can do micro- and macroblogging with 50,000 or more characters and just about everything that can be done with #BBcode (italics, bold type, underline, lists with bullet points or numbers, quotes, code blocks), and you can embed as many pictures as you want in your posts where you want them instead of them automatically being attached to the end of the post.

    Group handling in Hubzilla is much easier than list handling in Mastodon. You never have to type the name of a contact to find them. You can edit contacts and add them to groups or remove them, and you can edit groups and add or remove contacts, all with a few mouse clicks. And while Mastodon shows a maximum of four lists on the main page, Hubzilla will give you easy access to all your groups.

    On top of that, you can have
    • very fine-grained access rights control with pre-definable contact roles
    • forums (just like Friendica, Hubzilla has #Guppe built in)
    • more elegant macroblogging with articles which, in addition to BBcode, support #Markdown
    • simple webpages (or not so simple if you're the admin of a hub, and you can expand it further)
    • wikis (I'm not even kidding)
    • a public calendar
    • a virtually unlimited number of private calendars with #CalDAV connection
    • a virtually unlimited number of address books with #CardDAV connection
    • a file server with #WebDAV connection with its own access rights management which also ties in with the Photos and optional Gallery app (Mastodon drops your pictures somewhere, Hubzilla lets you upload them to your personal cloud space where you can access them whenever you want)

    All with one run-of-the-mill Hubzilla account. And once per channel, separately.

    And as if that wasn't enough, Hubzilla introduced the #Zot protocol and with it a concept named #NomadicIdentity.

    Mastodon and Friendica let you have multiple accounts, even on separate instances. They also support migration from one account to another, and unlike Mastodon, Friendica lets you take all your content with you. Hubzilla (and #Streams, the successor of its slimmed-down successor, still created by the same guy) goes even further: Not only can you easily move from one hub to another, you can have channels on multiple hubs and automatically keep them fully in sync! If one hub goes down, it doesn't matter because you've got everything on all your other accounts.

    Last but not least, both Friendica and Hubzilla federate with almost everything that moves, even far beyond the #ActivityPub Fediverse. This could be Diaspora*, this could be #GNUsocial, this could be #Wordpress blogs with or without the ActivityPub add-on, this could be RSS feeds (and they both generate feeds themselves, so this is bidirectional, too), this could even be Twitter until the API is shuttered. Friendica even used to federate with Facebook until Facebook put rocks in the way; this is the only connector that Hubzilla didn't take over.

    The obvious downside is that for someone who just came in from the #birdcage, all this is utter overkill. In fact, people who are used to Mastodon may find Friendica borderline unusuable due to its many features. And Hubzilla is so infamous for its own clumsy UI capitulating before its sheer power that even Friendica users find it hard to use, fresh converts from Twitter to Mastodon even more so.

    Some design decisions may be hard to understand for outsiders. Converts from other Fediverse projects to Hubzilla regularly fail at something as seemingly similar as connecting to users on other ActivityPub-based projects until you tell them that ActivityPub is an optional app on Hubzilla that has to be activated first because Hubzilla concentrates on Zot with its Nomadic Identity.

    Also, just because these projects offer so much power, that doesn't mean that everyone needs it. If you do, it can be convenient to have it all under one login. But if all you're looking for is a bit of microblogging and online socialising, you don't need to drag a CMS and a full-blown cloud server with all bells and whistles along with you that just clutter up the UI. In that case, projects like Mastodon and Akkoma win because they're more approachable.

    And while Friendica, Hubzilla & Co. can do threaded discussions and even have something like forums, Lemmy can do this more elegantly because it specialises in it. While you can use Hubzilla's private calendar feature for event planning, it's easier to do the same with #Mobilizon which, again, specialises in it. Or you can host podcasts on Friendica, Hubzilla & Co, but you can host them better on #Funkwhale and even better on #Castopod.

    Wanting the Fediverse to be only Mastodon hinders development, namely the development of new projects within the Fediverse that may be able to do all-new things that we haven't seen in the Fediverse yet. Things that, sorry to say again, you'll never be able to do with Mastodon.

    P.S.: For extra kicks, don't just read this on Mastodon. Open my original post; there you can see what Hubzilla is capable of, and what Mastodon strips away.
  25. @saustrup

    Denne tråd gør mig nysgerrig på hvordan indlæg der er forfattet i #markdown (andre muligheder: #bbcode og #html — og ren tekst, selvfølgelig) og postet gennem #pleroma ser ud i #mastodon og om det evt. virker forstyrrende i en #skærmlæser 🤔

    Uordnet liste:

    • ren tekst
    • fed skrift
    • kursiv

    Ordnet liste:

    1. ren tekst
    2. fed skrft
    3. kursiv

    /cc [ @JackOttoKristensen ]

  26. Dan d'Auge wrote the following post Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:19:13 +0100

    Making summaries in a long article?


    #en
    In a wiki, it is possible to use the bbcode toc tag to create a summary in a page. Example: https://lstu.fr/yxT0wJjh
    I tried to use it in a long article: in this situation, it doesn't work. Too bad, unless it's a bug?

    #fr
    Dans un wiki, il est possible d'utiliser la balise #bbcode toc pour créer un sommaire dans une page. Exemple : https://lstu.fr/yxT0wJjh
    J'ai essayer de l'utiliser dans un article long : dans ce cas, cela ne fonctionnement pas. Dommage, à moins que ça soit un #bug ?
  27. With #BBCode not serving a security purpose today and, in fact, often being a security risk – why does anybody still use it for a new project? It has the usability of raw HTML but way more undocumented edge cases. If people write markup by hand, #Markdown is the way to go today…

  28. #terraPreta #permaCulture #permaCultura #permaKultur #fediTips

    Some additional notes and observations
    @HorcaDobleMango

    #carbonActivado tanslates in german into #AktivKohle, that's the stuff you find in high quality filters, including filters for #fishTank's, #aquarium's and filres for drinking water as they have the capabilty to filter out all kind of chemicals from air and water. That's the same effect that carbon creates by storing chemical elements in it's space and structure in the soil for #plants and #microorganisms.

    Creating carbon from wood by explosively cooling it down throwing it into water, transforming it into "active carbon" resolves the arduous task of creating carbon in an anaerobic setup, an interesting point because we could come up with some kind of #rocketStove with a continious feeding process, seperating glowing carbon from the rest, letting it somehow roll into a water recipient while using the heat created to warm up our houses in the winter. As of now not solved in this idea is what to do with the water steam that is produced, or even to think about some secondery use for that steam. These "ideas/considerations" are actually the result of:
    * There is no waste, only primary materials
    * Every element in a system has to fulfill at least two goals

    What we couldn't find out into deep till now is a the issue that apparently carbon can be #hydrophobe or #hydrophilic and which process makes it hydrophillic. We guess that this is in part an important detail as the carbon harbors not only chemical elements but also is a kind of apartment building for microorganisms and their are probably different apartments for aerobic and anaerobic microorganisms.
    Perhaps in the case of your soil some hydrophobic carbon could be even the better option.

    Our question about the kind of soil, in part depending of the region you are from, is due to the observations that carbon to create terra preta is very usefull for old leached soils like those of the #Amazon basin, #SouthAmerica and #Africa in particular, as well as probably for example the sandy soils of #Brandenburg and #Mecklenburg-Vorpommern or regions of Spain, while the benefits in soils like Hessen, Western Germany in general and most likely the whole of central europe aren't that extraordinary, even tho they are most likely always beneficial.

    With respect to the profile @permaculture, that is a friendica forum page for the fediVerse.
    "Our setup" includes the forum page server tupambae.org/ as well as the friendica server tupambae.com/ harboring also the forum page profiles @permaculture for english and french and @permakultur for german. If you subsribe to a #forumPage and mention that profile in a inicial post (toot) that post will be reshared by that profile page and send to all it's subscribers!

    The dot com server is for single profiles and harbors for example a friendica profile @[email protected]. That profile, besides being a standard account in the fediverse actually mirrors publicacions of this mastodon profile over here, in part examplifying the permaculture principal:
    * Every element in a system as to be covered at least by two elements/aspects.

    At the same time by using #friendica we have the benefits of all the extras that a fediVerse server software brings to the table for profiles and projects like:
    * #imageGallery
    * #calendar
    * #personalNotes and #privateMessage
    * #directory for to sort publications
    * no character limite
    * enhanced text editing tools like #bbCode and #markdown
    * #postPreview

    simultanios cross publications:
    * by email
    * to other platforms like #diaspora, #bluesky and #tumblr

    In other words, a friendica server for the fediVerse is not only a perfect choice for "Fachbereichsprofile" of a #university like
    @unikassel, something like social.uni-kassel.de, it's also extremely usefull for projects and larger articles.

    Please keep us updated in particular about this very interesting project of yours, actually the best would be as answers in this very thread, so we can save your content in our setup and spread it into the #fediVerse.
    👍

  29. #terraPreta #permaCulture #permaCultura #permaKultur #fediTips

    Some additional notes and observations
    @HorcaDobleMango

    #carbonActivado tanslates in german into #AktivKohle, that's the stuff you find in high quality filters, including filters for #fishTank's, #aquarium's and filres for drinking water as they have the capabilty to filter out all kind of chemicals from air and water. That's the same effect that carbon creates by storing chemical elements in it's space and structure in the soil for #plants and #microorganisms.

    Creating carbon from wood by explosively cooling it down throwing it into water, transforming it into "active carbon" resolves the arduous task of creating carbon in an anaerobic setup, an interesting point because we could come up with some kind of #rocketStove with a continious feeding process, seperating glowing carbon from the rest, letting it somehow roll into a water recipient while using the heat created to warm up our houses in the winter. As of now not solved in this idea is what to do with the water steam that is produced, or even to think about some secondery use for that steam. These "ideas/considerations" are actually the result of:
    * There is no waste, only primary materials
    * Every element in a system has to fulfill at least two goals

    What we couldn't find out into deep till now is a the issue that apparently carbon can be #hydrophobe or #hydrophilic and which process makes it hydrophillic. We guess that this is in part an important detail as the carbon harbors not only chemical elements but also is a kind of apartment building for microorganisms and their are probably different apartments for aerobic and anaerobic microorganisms.
    Perhaps in the case of your soil some hydrophobic carbon could be even the better option.

    Our question about the kind of soil, in part depending of the region you are from, is due to the observations that carbon to create terra preta is very usefull for old leached soils like those of the #Amazon basin, #SouthAmerica and #Africa in particular, as well as probably for example the sandy soils of #Brandenburg and #Mecklenburg-Vorpommern or regions of Spain, while the benefits in soils like Hessen, Western Germany in general and most likely the whole of central europe aren't that extraordinary, even tho they are most likely always beneficial.

    With respect to the profile @permaculture, that is a friendica forum page for the fediVerse.
    "Our setup" includes the forum page server tupambae.org/ as well as the friendica server tupambae.com/ harboring also the forum page profiles @permaculture for english and french and @permakultur for german. If you subsribe to a #forumPage and mention that profile in a inicial post (toot) that post will be reshared by that profile page and send to all it's subscribers!

    The dot com server is for single profiles and harbors for example a friendica profile @[email protected]. That profile, besides being a standard account in the fediverse actually mirrors publicacions of this mastodon profile over here, in part examplifying the permaculture principal:
    * Every element in a system as to be covered at least by two elements/aspects.

    At the same time by using #friendica we have the benefits of all the extras that a fediVerse server software brings to the table for profiles and projects like:
    * #imageGallery
    * #calendar
    * #personalNotes and #privateMessage
    * #directory for to sort publications
    * no character limite
    * enhanced text editing tools like #bbCode and #markdown
    * #postPreview

    simultanios cross publications:
    * by email
    * to other platforms like #diaspora, #bluesky and #tumblr

    In other words, a friendica server for the fediVerse is not only a perfect choice for "Fachbereichsprofile" of a #university like
    @unikassel, something like social.uni-kassel.de, it's also extremely usefull for projects and larger articles.

    Please keep us updated in particular about this very interesting project of yours, actually the best would be as answers in this very thread, so we can save your content in our setup and spread it into the #fediVerse.
    👍

  30. #terraPreta #permaCulture #permaCultura #permaKultur #fediTips

    Some additional notes and observations
    @HorcaDobleMango

    #carbonActivado tanslates in german into #AktivKohle, that's the stuff you find in high quality filters, including filters for #fishTank's, #aquarium's and filres for drinking water as they have the capabilty to filter out all kind of chemicals from air and water. That's the same effect that carbon creates by storing chemical elements in it's space and structure in the soil for #plants and #microorganisms.

    Creating carbon from wood by explosively cooling it down throwing it into water, transforming it into "active carbon" resolves the arduous task of creating carbon in an anaerobic setup, an interesting point because we could come up with some kind of #rocketStove with a continious feeding process, seperating glowing carbon from the rest, letting it somehow roll into a water recipient while using the heat created to warm up our houses in the winter. As of now not solved in this idea is what to do with the water steam that is produced, or even to think about some secondery use for that steam. These "ideas/considerations" are actually the result of:
    * There is no waste, only primary materials
    * Every element in a system has to fulfill at least two goals

    What we couldn't find out into deep till now is a the issue that apparently carbon can be #hydrophobe or #hydrophilic and which process makes it hydrophillic. We guess that this is in part an important detail as the carbon harbors not only chemical elements but also is a kind of apartment building for microorganisms and their are probably different apartments for aerobic and anaerobic microorganisms.
    Perhaps in the case of your soil some hydrophobic carbon could be even the better option.

    Our question about the kind of soil, in part depending of the region you are from, is due to the observations that carbon to create terra preta is very usefull for old leached soils like those of the #Amazon basin, #SouthAmerica and #Africa in particular, as well as probably for example the sandy soils of #Brandenburg and #Mecklenburg-Vorpommern or regions of Spain, while the benefits in soils like Hessen, Western Germany in general and most likely the whole of central europe aren't that extraordinary, even tho they are most likely always beneficial.

    With respect to the profile @permaculture, that is a friendica forum page for the fediVerse.
    "Our setup" includes the forum page server tupambae.org/ as well as the friendica server tupambae.com/ harboring also the forum page profiles @permaculture for english and french and @permakultur for german. If you subsribe to a #forumPage and mention that profile in a inicial post (toot) that post will be reshared by that profile page and send to all it's subscribers!

    The dot com server is for single profiles and harbors for example a friendica profile @[email protected]. That profile, besides being a standard account in the fediverse actually mirrors publicacions of this mastodon profile over here, in part examplifying the permaculture principal:
    * Every element in a system as to be covered at least by two elements/aspects.

    At the same time by using #friendica we have the benefits of all the extras that a fediVerse server software brings to the table for profiles and projects like:
    * #imageGallery
    * #calendar
    * #personalNotes and #privateMessage
    * #directory for to sort publications
    * no character limite
    * enhanced text editing tools like #bbCode and #markdown
    * #postPreview

    simultanios cross publications:
    * by email
    * to other platforms like #diaspora, #bluesky and #tumblr

    In other words, a friendica server for the fediVerse is not only a perfect choice for "Fachbereichsprofile" of a #university like
    @unikassel, something like social.uni-kassel.de, it's also extremely usefull for projects and larger articles.

    Please keep us updated in particular about this very interesting project of yours, actually the best would be as answers in this very thread, so we can save your content in our setup and spread it into the #fediVerse.
    👍

  31. #Markdown Is a Disaster: Why and What to Do Instead
    karl-voit.at/2025/08/17/Markdo

    Here's my article where I summarize the subtle and no so subtle downsides when you choose Markdown for your information instead of a different markup syntax that doesn't come with all the downsides of #MD.

    #publicvoit #orgdown #orgmode #LML #pandoc #rst #restructuredtext #asciidoc #Wikitext #BBCode #Creole #Crossmark #Djot #CommonMark #lockin

  32. #Markdown Is a Disaster: Why and What to Do Instead
    karl-voit.at/2025/08/17/Markdo

    Here's my article where I summarize the subtle and no so subtle downsides when you choose Markdown for your information instead of a different markup syntax that doesn't come with all the downsides of #MD.

    #publicvoit #orgdown #orgmode #LML #pandoc #rst #restructuredtext #asciidoc #Wikitext #BBCode #Creole #Crossmark #Djot #CommonMark #lockin

  33. #Markdown Is a Disaster: Why and What to Do Instead
    karl-voit.at/2025/08/17/Markdo

    Here's my article where I summarize the subtle and no so subtle downsides when you choose Markdown for your information instead of a different markup syntax that doesn't come with all the downsides of #MD.

    #publicvoit #orgdown #orgmode #LML #pandoc #rst #restructuredtext #asciidoc #Wikitext #BBCode #Creole #Crossmark #Djot #CommonMark #lockin

  34. 我設計的 smiles #markdown 用法是 ```smiles 開頭的代碼塊,但實際上也需要在行間使用結構式,所以應該再設計一種內聯語法。

    `[smiles]cco[/smiles]` 這種風格怎麼樣呀?我也不知道這是什麼風格。啊!gemini 說它是 bbcode 風格。

    #bbcode#xml 誰更好呀?但我覺得這兩種都有些麻煩...但短的又擔心和其他語法衝突,例如 latex 的`$`或者內聯代碼。

    最好還得支援自定義高亮結構?比如使用者可能會想高亮一部分,而 chemistry api 支援,但如果社交媒體裡卻不支援就很奇怪。

    雖然 bbcode 寫起來麻煩,可我覺得它實現這個功能確實是最簡單、最優雅的誒...

    ```
    [smiles highlight="結構"]分子式[/smiles]
    ```

    雖然只打一個單獨的 smiles 很難,但如果一旦需要擴展元信息就會立刻變得很簡單:

    • 可以很方便地加屬性,這樣就可以把精心設計的 chemist…

    —— Little Gecko Fuyeor, Ф fuyeor.com/t/382

  35. 🆕 pandoc 3.8.3 🎉

    This release adds three new input formats (#Asciidoc, #PPTX, and #XLSX) and one new output format (#BBCode + variants).

    It also fixes a number of bugs (including some regressions in 3.8). See the changelog for full details.

    Thanks to all who contributed!

    github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases

    #pandoc #release

  36. 🆕 pandoc 3.8.3 🎉

    This release adds three new input formats (#Asciidoc, #PPTX, and #XLSX) and one new output format (#BBCode + variants).

    It also fixes a number of bugs (including some regressions in 3.8). See the changelog for full details.

    Thanks to all who contributed!

    github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases

    #pandoc #release

  37. 🆕 pandoc 3.8.3 🎉

    This release adds three new input formats (#Asciidoc, #PPTX, and #XLSX) and one new output format (#BBCode + variants).

    It also fixes a number of bugs (including some regressions in 3.8). See the changelog for full details.

    Thanks to all who contributed!

    github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases

    #pandoc #release

  38. 🆕 pandoc 3.8.3 🎉

    This release adds three new input formats (#Asciidoc, #PPTX, and #XLSX) and one new output format (#BBCode + variants).

    It also fixes a number of bugs (including some regressions in 3.8). See the changelog for full details.

    Thanks to all who contributed!

    github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases

    #pandoc #release

  39. Encontrei isso aqui numa pesquisa.

    O pior do #BBCode não é nem a mudança, as é que os signos de indicação são muuuito longos se comparados com MD.

  40. #Markdown Is a Disaster: Why and What to Do Instead
    karl-voit.at/2025/08/17/Markdo

    Here's my article where I summarize the subtle and no so subtle downsides when you choose Markdown for your information instead of a different markup syntax that doesn't come with all the downsides of #MD.

    #publicvoit #orgdown #orgmode #LML #pandoc #rst #restructuredtext #asciidoc #Wikitext #BBCode #Creole #Crossmark #Djot #CommonMark #lockin

  41. @silverpill Who are the longformers anyway?

    They're those who either are commercial or looking for professional/commercial users or both. Flipboard. Automattic (WordPress). Ghost. These kinds.

    They know themselves. They know each other. And they know Mastodon. And that's it.

    None of them has ever heard of Pleroma or Akkoma.

    None of them has ever heard of Misskey or the Forkeys.

    None of them has ever heard of Mitra.

    None of them has ever heard of GoToSocial.

    None of them has ever heard of Hollo.

    None of them has ever heard of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte, even though Friendica and Hubzilla are both older than Mastodon. And apparently, neither has @Helge. But then again, Friendica and its nomadic, security-enhanced descendants are being overlooked by almost everyone. That's why there's always on-going work for features to be "introduced to the Fediverse" which Friendica has had for a decade and a half.

    Granted, the HTML support on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can be summarised with "yes". But elaborate tables that show what either of them supports how would be very useful.

    Also, granted, everything I've mentioned above (normally) uses something else than HTML for formatting in the frontend. For example, Misskey and all Forkeys use MFM ("Misskey-Flavoured Markdown"). Friendica uses extended BBcode with the option to use Markdown instead. Hubzilla uses even more extended BBcode. (streams) and Forte can use the same even more extended BBcode and Markdown and HTML at the same time within the same post, although not all markup languages support all features.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Mitra #GoToSocial #Hollo #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #LongFormContent #BBcode #Markdown #HTML #TextFormatting
  42. @silverpill Who are the longformers anyway?

    They're those who either are commercial or looking for professional/commercial users or both. Flipboard. Automattic (WordPress). Ghost. These kinds.

    They know themselves. They know each other. And they know Mastodon. And that's it.

    None of them has ever heard of Pleroma or Akkoma.

    None of them has ever heard of Misskey or the Forkeys.

    None of them has ever heard of Mitra.

    None of them has ever heard of GoToSocial.

    None of them has ever heard of Hollo.

    None of them has ever heard of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte, even though Friendica and Hubzilla are both older than Mastodon. And apparently, neither has @Helge. But then again, Friendica and its nomadic, security-enhanced descendants are being overlooked by almost everyone. That's why there's always on-going work for features to be "introduced to the Fediverse" which Friendica has had for a decade and a half.

    Granted, the HTML support on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can be summarised with "yes". But elaborate tables that show what either of them supports how would be very useful.

    Also, granted, everything I've mentioned above (normally) uses something else than HTML for formatting in the frontend. For example, Misskey and all Forkeys use MFM ("Misskey-Flavoured Markdown"). Friendica uses extended BBcode with the option to use Markdown instead. Hubzilla uses even more extended BBcode. (streams) and Forte can use the same even more extended BBcode and Markdown and HTML at the same time within the same post, although not all markup languages support all features.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Mitra #GoToSocial #Hollo #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #LongFormContent #BBcode #Markdown #HTML #TextFormatting
  43. @silverpill Who are the longformers anyway?

    They're those who either are commercial or looking for professional/commercial users or both. Flipboard. Automattic (WordPress). Ghost. These kinds.

    They know themselves. They know each other. And they know Mastodon. And that's it.

    None of them has ever heard of Pleroma or Akkoma.

    None of them has ever heard of Misskey or the Forkeys.

    None of them has ever heard of Mitra.

    None of them has ever heard of GoToSocial.

    None of them has ever heard of Hollo.

    None of them has ever heard of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte, even though Friendica and Hubzilla are both older than Mastodon. And apparently, neither has @Helge. But then again, Friendica and its nomadic, security-enhanced descendants are being overlooked by almost everyone. That's why there's always on-going work for features to be "introduced to the Fediverse" which Friendica has had for a decade and a half.

    Granted, the HTML support on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can be summarised with "yes". But elaborate tables that show what either of them supports how would be very useful.

    Also, granted, everything I've mentioned above (normally) uses something else than HTML for formatting in the frontend. For example, Misskey and all Forkeys use MFM ("Misskey-Flavoured Markdown"). Friendica uses extended BBcode with the option to use Markdown instead. Hubzilla uses even more extended BBcode. (streams) and Forte can use the same even more extended BBcode and Markdown and HTML at the same time within the same post, although not all markup languages support all features.

    #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Mitra #GoToSocial #Hollo #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #LongFormContent #BBcode #Markdown #HTML #TextFormatting
  44. @silverpill Who are the longformers anyway?

    They're those who either are commercial or looking for professional/commercial users or both. Flipboard. Automattic (WordPress). Ghost. These kinds.

    They know themselves. They know each other. And they know Mastodon. And that's it.

    None of them has ever heard of Pleroma or Akkoma.

    None of them has ever heard of Misskey or the Forkeys.

    None of them has ever heard of Mitra.

    None of them has ever heard of GoToSocial.

    None of them has ever heard of Hollo.

    None of them has ever heard of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte, even though Friendica and Hubzilla are both older than Mastodon. And apparently, neither has @Helge. But then again, Friendica and its nomadic, security-enhanced descendants are being overlooked by almost everyone. That's why there's always on-going work for features to be "introduced to the Fediverse" which Friendica has had for a decade and a half.

    Granted, the HTML support on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can be summarised with "yes". But elaborate tables that show what either of them supports how would be very useful.

    Also, granted, everything I've mentioned above (normally) uses something else than HTML for formatting in the frontend. For example, Misskey and all Forkeys use MFM ("Misskey-Flavoured Markdown"). Friendica uses extended BBcode with the option to use Markdown instead. Hubzilla uses even more extended BBcode. (streams) and Forte can use the same even more extended BBcode and Markdown and HTML at the same time within the same post, although not all markup languages support all features.

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