#faceplant — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #faceplant, aggregated by home.social.
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🚀💥 Oh, look! Another tech bro thought he could play #politics and surprise, surprise—he faceplanted faster than a #Tesla on #autopilot. 🙈 Maybe try turning off God Mode next time, Dave? #EpicFail
https://www.theverge.com/column/925487/david-sacks-trump-administration-ai-model-review #EpicFail #TechBro #Faceplant #GodMode #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💥 Oh, look! Another tech bro thought he could play #politics and surprise, surprise—he faceplanted faster than a #Tesla on #autopilot. 🙈 Maybe try turning off God Mode next time, Dave? #EpicFail
https://www.theverge.com/column/925487/david-sacks-trump-administration-ai-model-review #EpicFail #TechBro #Faceplant #GodMode #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💥 Oh, look! Another tech bro thought he could play #politics and surprise, surprise—he faceplanted faster than a #Tesla on #autopilot. 🙈 Maybe try turning off God Mode next time, Dave? #EpicFail
https://www.theverge.com/column/925487/david-sacks-trump-administration-ai-model-review #EpicFail #TechBro #Faceplant #GodMode #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💥 Oh, look! Another tech bro thought he could play #politics and surprise, surprise—he faceplanted faster than a #Tesla on #autopilot. 🙈 Maybe try turning off God Mode next time, Dave? #EpicFail
https://www.theverge.com/column/925487/david-sacks-trump-administration-ai-model-review #EpicFail #TechBro #Faceplant #GodMode #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💥 Oh, look! Another tech bro thought he could play #politics and surprise, surprise—he faceplanted faster than a #Tesla on #autopilot. 🙈 Maybe try turning off God Mode next time, Dave? #EpicFail
https://www.theverge.com/column/925487/david-sacks-trump-administration-ai-model-review #EpicFail #TechBro #Faceplant #GodMode #HackerNews #ngated -
@analgesicsleep You put on that dress, and I'll go shave my tongue! #FacePlant #WrongMovie (Dad you already made that joke) Yeah but nobody heard it/laughed! #SymSat
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His nose definitely touched grass for that catch. 😆 👃 🌱
#bluejays #mlb #alcs #faceplant -
Wow, Zuck! 🎉💼 You single-handedly face-planted into the #antitrust abyss because of a desktop folder named "mens rea"? 🤦♂️ Maybe try renaming it to "Oops" next time! 😂
https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/18/chatty-zucky/ #Zuckerberg #Drama #Faceplant #Humor #TechNews #HackerNews #ngated -
@Jam123 … and spend the inbetween time building his own platform and profile, carefully pushing back at and away from Trudeau on policy without being an antagonizing jerk, and people would have listened. That window closed, and he was the one who closed it. #FacePlant
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Oh, look! Another epic quest for #knowledge that ends with a #faceplant 🤦: 400 reasons not to use Microsoft Azure! Because obviously, reading a novella of Azure gripes is exactly what every developer dreams of doing on a cozy weekend. Must be a slow news day 🙄.
https://azsh.it #epicquest #MicrosoftAzure #developergripes #slownewsday #HackerNews #ngated -
Oh, look! Another epic quest for #knowledge that ends with a #faceplant 🤦: 400 reasons not to use Microsoft Azure! Because obviously, reading a novella of Azure gripes is exactly what every developer dreams of doing on a cozy weekend. Must be a slow news day 🙄.
https://azsh.it #epicquest #MicrosoftAzure #developergripes #slownewsday #HackerNews #ngated -
Oh, look! Another epic quest for #knowledge that ends with a #faceplant 🤦: 400 reasons not to use Microsoft Azure! Because obviously, reading a novella of Azure gripes is exactly what every developer dreams of doing on a cozy weekend. Must be a slow news day 🙄.
https://azsh.it #epicquest #MicrosoftAzure #developergripes #slownewsday #HackerNews #ngated -
Oh, look! Another epic quest for #knowledge that ends with a #faceplant 🤦: 400 reasons not to use Microsoft Azure! Because obviously, reading a novella of Azure gripes is exactly what every developer dreams of doing on a cozy weekend. Must be a slow news day 🙄.
https://azsh.it #epicquest #MicrosoftAzure #developergripes #slownewsday #HackerNews #ngated -
I'm often inspired to share my thoughts, expound upon something I've read that sparks that inspiration, or pose a bit of socratric reasoning in discourse. Sometimes we actually edjumacate ourselves by asking the tough questions rhetorically. Sometimes it's even more effective if we share those quests with others. It can be a phrase, a paragraph, or a sentence that ignites that quest for understanding within me, and whether I'm simply working it through it myself for my own sake or a genuine desire to share some kind of enlightenment or wisdom with others, I usually feel better doing it in the public eye at the end of the day when all is said and done.
There's a bit of a stir in the Fediverse. Darnell offers us some valuable considerations and specifics in the link to his blog post below.
For me, I think the most interesting part when you read between the lines is, ...
> This latest move could be a way for Meta to use Threads to thwart any potential ActivityPub powered rivals in the Fediverse (like Pixelfed, Friendica & WordPress).
Note that nowhere is masto even listed there - it's insignificant. The #ActivityPub powered rivals in the #Fediverse cited are what have been considered for many years the direct corollaries to #InstaSPAM and #Faceplant, respectively, which of course are the exceedingly capable platforms #Pixelfed and #Friendica.
In all of that, considering that #WordPress is the big game changer here of most recent repute, enjoying a 42% market share of all websites worldwide certainly blows away anything Meta has to offer, but even though it is past the 4th of May, Faceplant and InstaSPAM still do comprise the #phantom_menace flavor of this week.
- Pixelfed has a very nice interface for browsing images. Unlike InstaSPAM however, there isn't this overwhelming nausea attending user accounts with duck-ass selfie-kisses blown into bacteria laden bathroom mirrors, or the overwhelming shitposting of memes scraped from other non-verbal teenage neanderthals. So yes, there's less traffic, typically, but actual photos of things that are actually important and relevant to the people posting them, and more so, liked and boosted by people who appreciate such sentimentalism or professional art. On the downside, is Pixelfed's relatively lackluster editor that fails to provide the poster with paragraph breaks in the WebUI with any reliability, it's mastocrap-like paltry 500 character limit per post, and a complete lack of formatting capabilities (i.e., Markdown or BBCode, Etc.). Having said that, the 500 character limit is easily remedied in a single entry of a config file, which is a blessing to many who have resorted to using the #A11Y alt-text fields to provide the descriptions and narratives for images uploaded, but the other sophomoric qualities of the editor leave massively huge run on paragraphs for the reader to endure - like this one, for example :p
Other awesome projects either spawned directly from, or inspired by the success of Pixelfed are the FediDB research database, which although pretty, leaves much to be desired with respect to completeness; Sup, a client/server federated chat app model; Loops, a closed beta service that aims to position itself as a replacement for, and similar to YouTube shorts; and PubKit, a tool service in closed beta at this time that attempts to service the same or similar tests that the production https://funfedi.dev/ resource does.
- Friendica was once a platform that closely mimicked the look and feel of Faceplant. And then it wasn't, as the Faceplant monoverse continued to evolve in look and feel, and Friendica lagged in what I typically refer to as "Prettiness". Those days are long past, Friendica looks better and better with each and every successive release, and there's an obvious effort on improving the UX for users, making it much more intuitive, and the UI, tending to the "Prettiness" that I do indeed place so much emphasis on.
Once the original darling of the Fediverse, Friendica is once again at the top of the heap with a few others. This does not include the increasingly marginalized masto brand, as more and more adoptees continue to turn their backs to that has-been flagship.
After increasingly pervasive betrayals of both the #FOSS and #DeSoc philosophies and advocates for the past couple of years, eventually revealing it's own EEE aspirations by actively conflating it's masto brand and registered trademarks with that of Fediverse. Even worse, overtly engaging in an onboarding scheme that actively funnels new #Fedizens to one masto machine in particular, in grand, deprecated silo fashion, the masto corporation has populated one of the largest monolithic vertical gardens in the Fediverse itself. The sad part is that, being just another twitter clone, it still has no sense of community and offers nearly a million users a single point of failure. Ouch!
This masto mega-silo problem becomes even less relevant when you visit the Friendica page above, and gloss over the phenomenal feature set and attention given to interoperability with a shopping list of other platforms, protocols, and clients, including:
RSS/Atom, StatusNet, GNU social, Diaspora, SMTP/IMAP, Bluesky, Tumblr, GNU Social, pump.io, Libertree, Blogger, WordPress, Twidere, AndStatus, Bitlbee, Choqok, Frentcl, Gwibber, Hotot, IdentiCurse, Pidgin/Purple, Mustard, Pino, TTYtter.
Now, you might note that Twitter/X has walled off its deprecated monolithic garden, but that doesn't mean that the client and other toolsets that work with those APIs don't still work just fine with Friendica. And we're not even stating the obvious here - ActivityPub clients like Husky, Fedilab, and Sengi work just fine with Friendica, including Friendiqa and Relatica - two fine examples among the numerous choices you have for native Friendica apps for Android and desktop.
For more of an in-depth read on Relatica, here's an article I published a while back
The second most interesting thing that Darnell mentions, I think, has to do with the verbiage in which he characterizes Existing and traditional Fediverse powered platforms. Rivals. He calls them, "...ActivityPub powered rivals". Hmmmm....
I do believe that's the first time I've actually heard it put quite like that. But it's true. to be certain, it wasn't, not by a longshot, just a little while ago, but now? Well, it's nothing that we've done here in the Fediverse, except for continue to just ignore what's going on with the #subjugated_chattel that have all but succumbed to the #Sunnyvale_Syndrome, and get on with the good work of building and #dogfooding FOSS. But, ...
It's got a lot to do with what you might call interlopers, carpetbaggers, snakeoil salesmen, infestation, or maybe just plain old encroachment of aged and abusive #dreadnoughts into the Fediverse that stubbornly adhere to their deprecated, monolithic silo model of privacy farming technologies.
Hitherto all of these ActivityPub refits and forays into a Privacy mindful and respecting network of social communications systems, people kept using terms like Alternatives, for ActivityPub powered platforms such as the three main platforms mentioned in Darnell's blog article.
Now, they're being elevated to the rank of Rivals? But we, we, didn't do anything!
Neither did the GPL'd Linux Kernel - it just continued to do what FOSS does. It doesn't care what thinks it may be in competition with, or what considers it a threat, or rival or yes, REPLACEMENT for things like Faceplant and InstaSPAM.
Yes, FOSS just lumbers and chugs right along, relatively oblivious to whatever the proprietary, closed source contemporaries think of it - with respect to Linux, It actually entered the jurisdiction of a market dominated by Microsoft, IBM, and a couple of others, was lampooned and ridiculed, until it was considered a Cancer, by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, but this wasn't Microsoft or others encroaching into a space where only Linux and the BSDs resided...
This time it is different, because it's the other way around, but the end result will be the same. In the meantime, the perceived hostile invader, at the moment, is Zuckerberg's Meta. This isn't an EEE in the works, it's a desperate attempt to reach and hold onto the the coping that lines the deep end of a swimming pool which InstaSPAM and Faceplant must learn to swim in, and yet cannot - in the meantime, until it is able to tread those waters, it is feebly dog-paddling toward the edge where a handhold can be made while it is fitted with water-wings.
Even though both Tom (everyone's friend) and Eugen are happily traveling around the world snapping photographs and flirting with photography as a hobby, #Mark_Zuckerberg really doesn't wanna be #Myspaced.
If you don't move, you atrophy.
But Friendica, WordPress, and Pixelfed? Well, they're just FOSS, and they're just doing what FOSS does - exist, improve, and evolve. independently and irrespective of commercial threats by would be competitors.
Existing Fediverse platforms continue to onboard new Fedizens hourly, that's not slowing down, and it isn't going to either. Some of these n00bs are straddling the fence until they get their sea legs, existing in both worlds, while others are just cutting ties with the deprecated monolithic silos and jumping into the pool head first.
This phenomena of adoption and the logarithmic increase in onboarding and the deployment of new Fediverse instances is only going to pick up pace as the masses of users on platforms like #Threads and #Bluesky continue to become aware of the Fediverse, and the freedoms they can enjoy in social communication through leveraging WordPress, Pixelfed, and Friendica (and it goes without saying, all the rest of the wonderful platforms too).
With a community facade that pretended to hold the reigns of masto having been dropped, leaving a new 501(c)(3) masto corporation in the US steered by the likes of Twitter founders themselves, the steam is running out on that brand, and although Meta, via Threads, is certainly welcome to participate in the #FEP process (they actually are), there's really no foothold with which they can insert a toe and dictate very much at all that the community itself isn't inclined to adopt already, independently and without concern of capture by well funded special interest groups - like the new US masto corp.
But in closing, let's get back to why all of this doesn't even really matter where existing traditional Fediverse platforms are concerned - or the millions of users actively engaged on those thousands of hubs and instances:
Because it's FOSS, it evolves organically, and just doesn't care about that kind of stuff, lolz.
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RE: https://one.darnell.one/users/darnell/statuses/112405069391666443
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I'm often inspired to share my thoughts, expound upon something I've read that sparks that inspiration, or pose a bit of socratric reasoning in discourse. Sometimes we actually edjumacate ourselves by asking the tough questions rhetorically. Sometimes it's even more effective if we share those quests with others. It can be a phrase, a paragraph, or a sentence that ignites that quest for understanding within me, and whether I'm simply working it through it myself for my own sake or a genuine desire to share some kind of enlightenment or wisdom with others, I usually feel better doing it in the public eye at the end of the day when all is said and done.
There's a bit of a stir in the Fediverse. Darnell offers us some valuable considerations and specifics in the link to his blog post below.
For me, I think the most interesting part when you read between the lines is, ...
> This latest move could be a way for Meta to use Threads to thwart any potential ActivityPub powered rivals in the Fediverse (like Pixelfed, Friendica & WordPress).
Note that nowhere is masto even listed there - it's insignificant. The #ActivityPub powered rivals in the #Fediverse cited are what have been considered for many years the direct corollaries to #InstaSPAM and #Faceplant, respectively, which of course are the exceedingly capable platforms #Pixelfed and #Friendica.
In all of that, considering that #WordPress is the big game changer here of most recent repute, enjoying a 42% market share of all websites worldwide certainly blows away anything Meta has to offer, but even though it is past the 4th of May, Faceplant and InstaSPAM still do comprise the #phantom_menace flavor of this week.
- Pixelfed has a very nice interface for browsing images. Unlike InstaSPAM however, there isn't this overwhelming nausea attending user accounts with duck-ass selfie-kisses blown into bacteria laden bathroom mirrors, or the overwhelming shitposting of memes scraped from other non-verbal teenage neanderthals. So yes, there's less traffic, typically, but actual photos of things that are actually important and relevant to the people posting them, and more so, liked and boosted by people who appreciate such sentimentalism or professional art. On the downside, is Pixelfed's relatively lackluster editor that fails to provide the poster with paragraph breaks in the WebUI with any reliability, it's mastocrap-like paltry 500 character limit per post, and a complete lack of formatting capabilities (i.e., Markdown or BBCode, Etc.). Having said that, the 500 character limit is easily remedied in a single entry of a config file, which is a blessing to many who have resorted to using the #A11Y alt-text fields to provide the descriptions and narratives for images uploaded, but the other sophomoric qualities of the editor leave massively huge run on paragraphs for the reader to endure - like this one, for example :p
Other awesome projects either spawned directly from, or inspired by the success of Pixelfed are the FediDB research database, which although pretty, leaves much to be desired with respect to completeness; Sup, a client/server federated chat app model; Loops, a closed beta service that aims to position itself as a replacement for, and similar to YouTube shorts; and PubKit, a tool service in closed beta at this time that attempts to service the same or similar tests that the production https://funfedi.dev/ resource does.
- Friendica was once a platform that closely mimicked the look and feel of Faceplant. And then it wasn't, as the Faceplant monoverse continued to evolve in look and feel, and Friendica lagged in what I typically refer to as "Prettiness". Those days are long past, Friendica looks better and better with each and every successive release, and there's an obvious effort on improving the UX for users, making it much more intuitive, and the UI, tending to the "Prettiness" that I do indeed place so much emphasis on.
Once the original darling of the Fediverse, Friendica is once again at the top of the heap with a few others. This does not include the increasingly marginalized masto brand, as more and more adoptees continue to turn their backs to that has-been flagship.
After increasingly pervasive betrayals of both the #FOSS and #DeSoc philosophies and advocates for the past couple of years, eventually revealing it's own EEE aspirations by actively conflating it's masto brand and registered trademarks with that of Fediverse. Even worse, overtly engaging in an onboarding scheme that actively funnels new #Fedizens to one masto machine in particular, in grand, deprecated silo fashion, the masto corporation has populated one of the largest monolithic vertical gardens in the Fediverse itself. The sad part is that, being just another twitter clone, it still has no sense of community and offers nearly a million users a single point of failure. Ouch!
This masto mega-silo problem becomes even less relevant when you visit the Friendica page above, and gloss over the phenomenal feature set and attention given to interoperability with a shopping list of other platforms, protocols, and clients, including:
RSS/Atom, StatusNet, GNU social, Diaspora, SMTP/IMAP, Bluesky, Tumblr, GNU Social, pump.io, Libertree, Blogger, WordPress, Twidere, AndStatus, Bitlbee, Choqok, Frentcl, Gwibber, Hotot, IdentiCurse, Pidgin/Purple, Mustard, Pino, TTYtter.
Now, you might note that Twitter/X has walled off its deprecated monolithic garden, but that doesn't mean that the client and other toolsets that work with those APIs don't still work just fine with Friendica. And we're not even stating the obvious here - ActivityPub clients like Husky, Fedilab, and Sengi work just fine with Friendica, including Friendiqa and Relatica - two fine examples among the numerous choices you have for native Friendica apps for Android and desktop.
For more of an in-depth read on Relatica, here's an article I published a while back
The second most interesting thing that Darnell mentions, I think, has to do with the verbiage in which he characterizes Existing and traditional Fediverse powered platforms. Rivals. He calls them, "...ActivityPub powered rivals". Hmmmm....
I do believe that's the first time I've actually heard it put quite like that. But it's true. to be certain, it wasn't, not by a longshot, just a little while ago, but now? Well, it's nothing that we've done here in the Fediverse, except for continue to just ignore what's going on with the #subjugated_chattel that have all but succumbed to the #Sunnyvale_Syndrome, and get on with the good work of building and #dogfooding FOSS. But, ...
It's got a lot to do with what you might call interlopers, carpetbaggers, snakeoil salesmen, infestation, or maybe just plain old encroachment of aged and abusive #dreadnoughts into the Fediverse that stubbornly adhere to their deprecated, monolithic silo model of privacy farming technologies.
Hitherto all of these ActivityPub refits and forays into a Privacy mindful and respecting network of social communications systems, people kept using terms like Alternatives, for ActivityPub powered platforms such as the three main platforms mentioned in Darnell's blog article.
Now, they're being elevated to the rank of Rivals? But we, we, didn't do anything!
Neither did the GPL'd Linux Kernel - it just continued to do what FOSS does. It doesn't care what thinks it may be in competition with, or what considers it a threat, or rival or yes, REPLACEMENT for things like Faceplant and InstaSPAM.
Yes, FOSS just lumbers and chugs right along, relatively oblivious to whatever the proprietary, closed source contemporaries think of it - with respect to Linux, It actually entered the jurisdiction of a market dominated by Microsoft, IBM, and a couple of others, was lampooned and ridiculed, until it was considered a Cancer, by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, but this wasn't Microsoft or others encroaching into a space where only Linux and the BSDs resided...
This time it is different, because it's the other way around, but the end result will be the same. In the meantime, the perceived hostile invader, at the moment, is Zuckerberg's Meta. This isn't an EEE in the works, it's a desperate attempt to reach and hold onto the the coping that lines the deep end of a swimming pool which InstaSPAM and Faceplant must learn to swim in, and yet cannot - in the meantime, until it is able to tread those waters, it is feebly dog-paddling toward the edge where a handhold can be made while it is fitted with water-wings.
Even though both Tom (everyone's friend) and Eugen are happily traveling around the world snapping photographs and flirting with photography as a hobby, #Mark_Zuckerberg really doesn't wanna be #Myspaced.
If you don't move, you atrophy.
But Friendica, WordPress, and Pixelfed? Well, they're just FOSS, and they're just doing what FOSS does - exist, improve, and evolve. independently and irrespective of commercial threats by would be competitors.
Existing Fediverse platforms continue to onboard new Fedizens hourly, that's not slowing down, and it isn't going to either. Some of these n00bs are straddling the fence until they get their sea legs, existing in both worlds, while others are just cutting ties with the deprecated monolithic silos and jumping into the pool head first.
This phenomena of adoption and the logarithmic increase in onboarding and the deployment of new Fediverse instances is only going to pick up pace as the masses of users on platforms like #Threads and #Bluesky continue to become aware of the Fediverse, and the freedoms they can enjoy in social communication through leveraging WordPress, Pixelfed, and Friendica (and it goes without saying, all the rest of the wonderful platforms too).
With a community facade that pretended to hold the reigns of masto having been dropped, leaving a new 501(c)(3) masto corporation in the US steered by the likes of Twitter founders themselves, the steam is running out on that brand, and although Meta, via Threads, is certainly welcome to participate in the #FEP process (they actually are), there's really no foothold with which they can insert a toe and dictate very much at all that the community itself isn't inclined to adopt already, independently and without concern of capture by well funded special interest groups - like the new US masto corp.
But in closing, let's get back to why all of this doesn't even really matter where existing traditional Fediverse platforms are concerned - or the millions of users actively engaged on those thousands of hubs and instances:
Because it's FOSS, it evolves organically, and just doesn't care about that kind of stuff, lolz.
⛵
.
RE: https://one.darnell.one/users/darnell/statuses/112405069391666443
-
I'm often inspired to share my thoughts, expound upon something I've read that sparks that inspiration, or pose a bit of socratric reasoning in discourse. Sometimes we actually edjumacate ourselves by asking the tough questions rhetorically. Sometimes it's even more effective if we share those quests with others. It can be a phrase, a paragraph, or a sentence that ignites that quest for understanding within me, and whether I'm simply working it through it myself for my own sake or a genuine desire to share some kind of enlightenment or wisdom with others, I usually feel better doing it in the public eye at the end of the day when all is said and done.
There's a bit of a stir in the Fediverse. Darnell offers us some valuable considerations and specifics in the link to his blog post below.
For me, I think the most interesting part when you read between the lines is, ...
> This latest move could be a way for Meta to use Threads to thwart any potential ActivityPub powered rivals in the Fediverse (like Pixelfed, Friendica & WordPress).
Note that nowhere is masto even listed there - it's insignificant. The #ActivityPub powered rivals in the #Fediverse cited are what have been considered for many years the direct corollaries to #InstaSPAM and #Faceplant, respectively, which of course are the exceedingly capable platforms #Pixelfed and #Friendica.
In all of that, considering that #WordPress is the big game changer here of most recent repute, enjoying a 42% market share of all websites worldwide certainly blows away anything Meta has to offer, but even though it is past the 4th of May, Faceplant and InstaSPAM still do comprise the #phantom_menace flavor of this week.
- Pixelfed has a very nice interface for browsing images. Unlike InstaSPAM however, there isn't this overwhelming nausea attending user accounts with duck-ass selfie-kisses blown into bacteria laden bathroom mirrors, or the overwhelming shitposting of memes scraped from other non-verbal teenage neanderthals. So yes, there's less traffic, typically, but actual photos of things that are actually important and relevant to the people posting them, and more so, liked and boosted by people who appreciate such sentimentalism or professional art. On the downside, is Pixelfed's relatively lackluster editor that fails to provide the poster with paragraph breaks in the WebUI with any reliability, it's mastocrap-like paltry 500 character limit per post, and a complete lack of formatting capabilities (i.e., Markdown or BBCode, Etc.). Having said that, the 500 character limit is easily remedied in a single entry of a config file, which is a blessing to many who have resorted to using the #A11Y alt-text fields to provide the descriptions and narratives for images uploaded, but the other sophomoric qualities of the editor leave massively huge run on paragraphs for the reader to endure - like this one, for example :p
Other awesome projects either spawned directly from, or inspired by the success of Pixelfed are the FediDB research database, which although pretty, leaves much to be desired with respect to completeness; Sup, a client/server federated chat app model; Loops, a closed beta service that aims to position itself as a replacement for, and similar to YouTube shorts; and PubKit, a tool service in closed beta at this time that attempts to service the same or similar tests that the production https://funfedi.dev/ resource does.
- Friendica was once a platform that closely mimicked the look and feel of Faceplant. And then it wasn't, as the Faceplant monoverse continued to evolve in look and feel, and Friendica lagged in what I typically refer to as "Prettiness". Those days are long past, Friendica looks better and better with each and every successive release, and there's an obvious effort on improving the UX for users, making it much more intuitive, and the UI, tending to the "Prettiness" that I do indeed place so much emphasis on.
Once the original darling of the Fediverse, Friendica is once again at the top of the heap with a few others. This does not include the increasingly marginalized masto brand, as more and more adoptees continue to turn their backs to that has-been flagship.
After increasingly pervasive betrayals of both the #FOSS and #DeSoc philosophies and advocates for the past couple of years, eventually revealing it's own EEE aspirations by actively conflating it's masto brand and registered trademarks with that of Fediverse. Even worse, overtly engaging in an onboarding scheme that actively funnels new #Fedizens to one masto machine in particular, in grand, deprecated silo fashion, the masto corporation has populated one of the largest monolithic vertical gardens in the Fediverse itself. The sad part is that, being just another twitter clone, it still has no sense of community and offers nearly a million users a single point of failure. Ouch!
This masto mega-silo problem becomes even less relevant when you visit the Friendica page above, and gloss over the phenomenal feature set and attention given to interoperability with a shopping list of other platforms, protocols, and clients, including:
RSS/Atom, StatusNet, GNU social, Diaspora, SMTP/IMAP, Bluesky, Tumblr, GNU Social, pump.io, Libertree, Blogger, WordPress, Twidere, AndStatus, Bitlbee, Choqok, Frentcl, Gwibber, Hotot, IdentiCurse, Pidgin/Purple, Mustard, Pino, TTYtter.
Now, you might note that Twitter/X has walled off its deprecated monolithic garden, but that doesn't mean that the client and other toolsets that work with those APIs don't still work just fine with Friendica. And we're not even stating the obvious here - ActivityPub clients like Husky, Fedilab, and Sengi work just fine with Friendica, including Friendiqa and Relatica - two fine examples among the numerous choices you have for native Friendica apps for Android and desktop.
For more of an in-depth read on Relatica, here's an article I published a while back
The second most interesting thing that Darnell mentions, I think, has to do with the verbiage in which he characterizes Existing and traditional Fediverse powered platforms. Rivals. He calls them, "...ActivityPub powered rivals". Hmmmm....
I do believe that's the first time I've actually heard it put quite like that. But it's true. to be certain, it wasn't, not by a longshot, just a little while ago, but now? Well, it's nothing that we've done here in the Fediverse, except for continue to just ignore what's going on with the #subjugated_chattel that have all but succumbed to the #Sunnyvale_Syndrome, and get on with the good work of building and #dogfooding FOSS. But, ...
It's got a lot to do with what you might call interlopers, carpetbaggers, snakeoil salesmen, infestation, or maybe just plain old encroachment of aged and abusive #dreadnoughts into the Fediverse that stubbornly adhere to their deprecated, monolithic silo model of privacy farming technologies.
Hitherto all of these ActivityPub refits and forays into a Privacy mindful and respecting network of social communications systems, people kept using terms like Alternatives, for ActivityPub powered platforms such as the three main platforms mentioned in Darnell's blog article.
Now, they're being elevated to the rank of Rivals? But we, we, didn't do anything!
Neither did the GPL'd Linux Kernel - it just continued to do what FOSS does. It doesn't care what thinks it may be in competition with, or what considers it a threat, or rival or yes, REPLACEMENT for things like Faceplant and InstaSPAM.
Yes, FOSS just lumbers and chugs right along, relatively oblivious to whatever the proprietary, closed source contemporaries think of it - with respect to Linux, It actually entered the jurisdiction of a market dominated by Microsoft, IBM, and a couple of others, was lampooned and ridiculed, until it was considered a Cancer, by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, but this wasn't Microsoft or others encroaching into a space where only Linux and the BSDs resided...
This time it is different, because it's the other way around, but the end result will be the same. In the meantime, the perceived hostile invader, at the moment, is Zuckerberg's Meta. This isn't an EEE in the works, it's a desperate attempt to reach and hold onto the the coping that lines the deep end of a swimming pool which InstaSPAM and Faceplant must learn to swim in, and yet cannot - in the meantime, until it is able to tread those waters, it is feebly dog-paddling toward the edge where a handhold can be made while it is fitted with water-wings.
Even though both Tom (everyone's friend) and Eugen are happily traveling around the world snapping photographs and flirting with photography as a hobby, #Mark_Zuckerberg really doesn't wanna be #Myspaced.
If you don't move, you atrophy.
But Friendica, WordPress, and Pixelfed? Well, they're just FOSS, and they're just doing what FOSS does - exist, improve, and evolve. independently and irrespective of commercial threats by would be competitors.
Existing Fediverse platforms continue to onboard new Fedizens hourly, that's not slowing down, and it isn't going to either. Some of these n00bs are straddling the fence until they get their sea legs, existing in both worlds, while others are just cutting ties with the deprecated monolithic silos and jumping into the pool head first.
This phenomena of adoption and the logarithmic increase in onboarding and the deployment of new Fediverse instances is only going to pick up pace as the masses of users on platforms like #Threads and #Bluesky continue to become aware of the Fediverse, and the freedoms they can enjoy in social communication through leveraging WordPress, Pixelfed, and Friendica (and it goes without saying, all the rest of the wonderful platforms too).
With a community facade that pretended to hold the reigns of masto having been dropped, leaving a new 501(c)(3) masto corporation in the US steered by the likes of Twitter founders themselves, the steam is running out on that brand, and although Meta, via Threads, is certainly welcome to participate in the #FEP process (they actually are), there's really no foothold with which they can insert a toe and dictate very much at all that the community itself isn't inclined to adopt already, independently and without concern of capture by well funded special interest groups - like the new US masto corp.
But in closing, let's get back to why all of this doesn't even really matter where existing traditional Fediverse platforms are concerned - or the millions of users actively engaged on those thousands of hubs and instances:
Because it's FOSS, it evolves organically, and just doesn't care about that kind of stuff, lolz.
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@jupiter_rowland @danie10 @thenexusofprivacy @mikedev
Okay first I should state that I've never actually said that masto isn't a solid and capable platform. It is, but at a severe cost - the design of masto, notwithstanding the insistence on maintaining a historically lackluster feature set when compared with almost any other Fediverse software, is such that it really isn't built for #DeSoc - it really strives to be some sort of unachievable ideal for the monolithic silo model.
No one but me seems to site this nowadays, but masto doesn't even really shine with respect to cost in terms of system resources and stability until you approach the 20,000 user account mark. What? Why would you do that? Back when these stats were being bandied about, Pleroma was showcasing its new #Gopher protocol (browsing) support, and reminding people that it felt perfectly at home on an #rPi. No such claim was ever made for masto, lolz. That doesn't mean that the other platforms aren't just as capable of scaling vertically... but... why? Who's going to foot the bill? Who's going to manage all of those un-vetted people creating accounts on your machines? Why would someone bother with that in the first place?
Community? Nope - there's no sense of community on masto servers, and I'll get to that later. Because you want to create your own private Idaho? Probably.
mastodon.socialis one of, if not the, largest deprecated monolithic silos existing in the Fediverse today. Why? What possible benefit could be derived by driving a million people into a single funnel under the auspices of telling them that they're escaping that very same model? It's ludicrous.No matter what happens in the short term, Eugen is assured of his parachute and comfortable retirement fund, except for the part where he forgot to have his new significant other sign a pre-nup - that might dash his net worth later, but that's another consideration entirely. I hope his marriage is actually a long and fruitful one that lasts forever, he's not a bad guy, he's just been courted and corrupted by the "Ooh shiney" phenomenon of financial entrapments that come with relative success in the media and pop culture.
The reason masto needs to be hard forked (several times, IMO) is not to create a better masto that will lend itself to DeSoc, #smolweb, and self-hosting on people's home networks, but rather, to further dilute the trademark, and especially the brand, effectively killing it if possible, supplanting it with Fediverse instead. People like to bounce around that term inclusivity, well, this accomplishes that.
Forks of masto aren't going to create a better masto. No way. Sure, some improvements on this one, other features on that one, but dilution of the brand until it is only as significant as any other deserving Fediverse platform is and should be the ultimate goal. It's not well suited, architecturally for horizontal scaling anyway, unless you don't mind throwing all those system resources at it that could better serve you elsewhere with something like #GoToSocial or one of the #Misskey and #Pleroma family fork members.
True leaders in the Fediverse will initially be those platforms that have planned ahead and accommodate other DeSoc protocols, arguably Fediverse protocols, at this time, #Diaspora, #OStatus, #Nomad, #Zot, and even others that some #Fedizens turn their noses up at, like #nostr and #Bluesky's #ATP. #ActivityPub is NOT the end-all, be-all for the future. It is the golden calf of today, and just as others that have come before, it will morph and evolve or be obviated by others that will be plugged into the platforms currently running it - #Friendica, #Hubzilla, and Streams are prime examples of this, and Friendica especially, considering it's the only extant original member of the Fediverse for all intents and purposes. One could say that Friendica is the #Slackware of the Fediverse, lolz.
With respect to Friendica in particular, but also Hubzilla and others that have arrived at this obvious conclusion, ActivityPub is merely the major vehicle by which it communicates with other decentralized social communications systems on the Internet. I don't think it has ever lost sight of that, like another of its contemporaries, #GNU_Social did.
Hemming large masses of people onto a single (and at this time appearing to be) and open walled garden has the immediate effect of control over large swaths of population - you can say this, but not that. You can think this, but not that. You can be this, but not that. You can believe this, but not that - under penalty of excommunication.
In reality, we don't have strong friendships with our neighbors - that's why we have fences. We wave to them and say hi, call the cops when they're on vacation and see someone suspicious lurking about their property. That's about the extent of being a neighbor. We invite our friends and coworkers over for BBQ's and to swim in our pools, not so much our neighbors.
The current masto social architecture is the antithesis of that, and so is it's physical architecture - put all the lobsters in the same pot of boiling water. Turn on and off their ability to speak all at once. Force them en masse to endure advertising blitzes (Oh, mark my word that's coming) decided upon by the server admin. It's like Baba O'Reilly by The Who - "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss".
That's not the promise of Fediverse. it's the antonym.
masto also hinders innovation, attempting to define, dictate even, what should and should not be available - Nomadic identity is but one emerging facet of what is fracturing the masto monopolistic initiative - and that's a good thing, because with the help of FEPs, already, others are adopting various cooperative models for this as well, but discussing that now, and here, at this time, is more of a tangent so I'll get back to the point.
Jupiter:
> That's why people still fork Mastodon to add features that are available just about everywhere else.Indeed it is, and why it has managed to enjoy a reasonable level of notoriety. There's also the wholly undeserved notion of community that actually, in direct opposition to, masto has continually sought to break and in a very big way, break.
There are certainly platforms (mostly forumware) that curate a sense of community, but those days are largely past. Whether it was #gplus, #Myspace, #Faceplant, #InstaSPAM, or #Twitter; because just as it is in real life, #COMMUNITY is that which you define for yourself through your connections - your follows and those who choose to follow your account. The biggest failures in the Fediverse that I've personally observed are those that seek to localize, geographically or by shared interest, a monolithic ivory tower of sameness and similarity amongst people.
I felt so awful for one guy who, so enthusiastically upon discovering the Fediverse, started registering domain names corresponding to several states, thinking that he would be successful in launching a geographically oriented family of masto based servers tending to the shared interests of people by offering them a place to congregate. He quickly discovered the fatal flaw in his model, but was stuck with hefty data center bills to maintain all these masto servers that were largely uninhabited.
Trying to get rid of your masto subscribers when you figure out that you need to egress from it is not an easy task without disenfranchising your user base. I know, because a few years back, not long after
@Gledarchived his #mastodo fork and urged everyone to adopt Pleroma instead, I face the daunting task of trying to convince my user base to migrate elsewhere - it took more than a year to accomplish!Danie:
> thing is though there are also many existing alternatives to Mastodon already on the Fediverse, so why fork it?In a nutshell, because it serves to, at the very least, dilute the masto brand, and more likely kill it. It has served its purpose and now that it has been exposed as a vehicle antithetical to #DeSoc, it's time to deprecate it.
My introduction to the #Fediverse occurred when I stumbled upon an earlier incarnation of #Friendica, started looking at #Red_Matrix, and discovered that the monolithic model, if not having been shown the door, had at least been handed its hat.
The problem at that time, was the effect of Prettiness, and of course, UX. Friendica wasn't too bad in that latter sense, when compared to that of Faceplant, but it sure didn't even come close to being as pretty as Faceplant - or even Myspace, which had only recently fallen into the abyss. That's changed A LOT, even in just the past year, with respect to Friendica and Hubzilla - they're much more intuitive for a layperson parachuting to the ground after jumping from the cesspit over at Faceplant.
I think that more than anything, not being pretty enough for the subjugated chattel coming from Twitter and Faceplant, was the most difficult thing for onboarders to embrace. Mike placed all of his focus on functionality and forward thinking vision with respect to what these and later efforts could provide the masses, but the "prettification" was left to others who didn't step up for the challenge for many years. I'm all for features six-ways to Sunday, but I also feel that many things need to be hidden from the landing page a new user sees upon account creation - the very basics they expect should be there, akin to those available in the deprecated monolithic space; users expect this, but they don't yet know they not only want, but really need all of these other feature sets too, yet some things should left, IMO, to be discovered later by the user.
And in my conversations years ago with Mike, I gleaned as much from him [paraphrased, of course]: "Here's this really bitchen gift for the masses, it does all this kewl stuff, now I leave it up to others to make it pretty" (and with a sense of coherency that these former subjugated chattel can initially get their heads around). Putting all that stuff right in their face was awe inspiring, but foreboding at the same time for many.
Well, finally, people are making it pretty :) And they're also moving much of the overwhelming busy-ness elsewhere in the UI. As a result, there's been an explosion of adoption - not even primarily from former masto folks either.
I'd like to touch on the notion of community one more time in closing. It might be convenient for n00bie onboarders to glean a bit about how a particular platform functions, but just like in your own neighborhood where you live, you make friends elsewhere mostly - at work, at functions of the hobbies you engage in, with friends you meet at the grocery store or libraries, and the beaches or on hiking or 4x4 weekend excursions. It's the same way in the Fediverse, you make your friends through connections here and there through people you discover along the way, and 99% of them ARE NOT on your particular server instance.
They don't need to be either, because this is the Fediverse :)
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@jupiter_rowland @danie10 @thenexusofprivacy @mikedev
Okay first I should state that I've never actually said that masto isn't a solid and capable platform. It is, but at a severe cost - the design of masto, notwithstanding the insistence on maintaining a historically lackluster feature set when compared with almost any other Fediverse software, is such that it really isn't built for #DeSoc - it really strives to be some sort of unachievable ideal for the monolithic silo model.
No one but me seems to site this nowadays, but masto doesn't even really shine with respect to cost in terms of system resources and stability until you approach the 20,000 user account mark. What? Why would you do that? Back when these stats were being bandied about, Pleroma was showcasing its new #Gopher protocol (browsing) support, and reminding people that it felt perfectly at home on an #rPi. No such claim was ever made for masto, lolz. That doesn't mean that the other platforms aren't just as capable of scaling vertically... but... why? Who's going to foot the bill? Who's going to manage all of those un-vetted people creating accounts on your machines? Why would someone bother with that in the first place?
Community? Nope - there's no sense of community on masto servers, and I'll get to that later. Because you want to create your own private Idaho? Probably.
mastodon.socialis one of, if not the, largest deprecated monolithic silos existing in the Fediverse today. Why? What possible benefit could be derived by driving a million people into a single funnel under the auspices of telling them that they're escaping that very same model? It's ludicrous.No matter what happens in the short term, Eugen is assured of his parachute and comfortable retirement fund, except for the part where he forgot to have his new significant other sign a pre-nup - that might dash his net worth later, but that's another consideration entirely. I hope his marriage is actually a long and fruitful one that lasts forever, he's not a bad guy, he's just been courted and corrupted by the "Ooh shiney" phenomenon of financial entrapments that come with relative success in the media and pop culture.
The reason masto needs to be hard forked (several times, IMO) is not to create a better masto that will lend itself to DeSoc, #smolweb, and self-hosting on people's home networks, but rather, to further dilute the trademark, and especially the brand, effectively killing it if possible, supplanting it with Fediverse instead. People like to bounce around that term inclusivity, well, this accomplishes that.
Forks of masto aren't going to create a better masto. No way. Sure, some improvements on this one, other features on that one, but dilution of the brand until it is only as significant as any other deserving Fediverse platform is and should be the ultimate goal. It's not well suited, architecturally for horizontal scaling anyway, unless you don't mind throwing all those system resources at it that could better serve you elsewhere with something like #GoToSocial or one of the #Misskey and #Pleroma family fork members.
True leaders in the Fediverse will initially be those platforms that have planned ahead and accommodate other DeSoc protocols, arguably Fediverse protocols, at this time, #Diaspora, #OStatus, #Nomad, #Zot, and even others that some #Fedizens turn their noses up at, like #nostr and #Bluesky's #ATP. #ActivityPub is NOT the end-all, be-all for the future. It is the golden calf of today, and just as others that have come before, it will morph and evolve or be obviated by others that will be plugged into the platforms currently running it - #Friendica, #Hubzilla, and Streams are prime examples of this, and Friendica especially, considering it's the only extant original member of the Fediverse for all intents and purposes. One could say that Friendica is the #Slackware of the Fediverse, lolz.
With respect to Friendica in particular, but also Hubzilla and others that have arrived at this obvious conclusion, ActivityPub is merely the major vehicle by which it communicates with other decentralized social communications systems on the Internet. I don't think it has ever lost sight of that, like another of its contemporaries, #GNU_Social did.
Hemming large masses of people onto a single (and at this time appearing to be) and open walled garden has the immediate effect of control over large swaths of population - you can say this, but not that. You can think this, but not that. You can be this, but not that. You can believe this, but not that - under penalty of excommunication.
In reality, we don't have strong friendships with our neighbors - that's why we have fences. We wave to them and say hi, call the cops when they're on vacation and see someone suspicious lurking about their property. That's about the extent of being a neighbor. We invite our friends and coworkers over for BBQ's and to swim in our pools, not so much our neighbors.
The current masto social architecture is the antithesis of that, and so is it's physical architecture - put all the lobsters in the same pot of boiling water. Turn on and off their ability to speak all at once. Force them en masse to endure advertising blitzes (Oh, mark my word that's coming) decided upon by the server admin. It's like Baba O'Reilly by The Who - "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss".
That's not the promise of Fediverse. it's the antonym.
masto also hinders innovation, attempting to define, dictate even, what should and should not be available - Nomadic identity is but one emerging facet of what is fracturing the masto monopolistic initiative - and that's a good thing, because with the help of FEPs, already, others are adopting various cooperative models for this as well, but discussing that now, and here, at this time, is more of a tangent so I'll get back to the point.
Jupiter:
> That's why people still fork Mastodon to add features that are available just about everywhere else.Indeed it is, and why it has managed to enjoy a reasonable level of notoriety. There's also the wholly undeserved notion of community that actually, in direct opposition to, masto has continually sought to break and in a very big way, break.
There are certainly platforms (mostly forumware) that curate a sense of community, but those days are largely past. Whether it was #gplus, #Myspace, #Faceplant, #InstaSPAM, or #Twitter; because just as it is in real life, #COMMUNITY is that which you define for yourself through your connections - your follows and those who choose to follow your account. The biggest failures in the Fediverse that I've personally observed are those that seek to localize, geographically or by shared interest, a monolithic ivory tower of sameness and similarity amongst people.
I felt so awful for one guy who, so enthusiastically upon discovering the Fediverse, started registering domain names corresponding to several states, thinking that he would be successful in launching a geographically oriented family of masto based servers tending to the shared interests of people by offering them a place to congregate. He quickly discovered the fatal flaw in his model, but was stuck with hefty data center bills to maintain all these masto servers that were largely uninhabited.
Trying to get rid of your masto subscribers when you figure out that you need to egress from it is not an easy task without disenfranchising your user base. I know, because a few years back, not long after
@Gledarchived his #mastodo fork and urged everyone to adopt Pleroma instead, I face the daunting task of trying to convince my user base to migrate elsewhere - it took more than a year to accomplish!Danie:
> thing is though there are also many existing alternatives to Mastodon already on the Fediverse, so why fork it?In a nutshell, because it serves to, at the very least, dilute the masto brand, and more likely kill it. It has served its purpose and now that it has been exposed as a vehicle antithetical to #DeSoc, it's time to deprecate it.
My introduction to the #Fediverse occurred when I stumbled upon an earlier incarnation of #Friendica, started looking at #Red_Matrix, and discovered that the monolithic model, if not having been shown the door, had at least been handed its hat.
The problem at that time, was the effect of Prettiness, and of course, UX. Friendica wasn't too bad in that latter sense, when compared to that of Faceplant, but it sure didn't even come close to being as pretty as Faceplant - or even Myspace, which had only recently fallen into the abyss. That's changed A LOT, even in just the past year, with respect to Friendica and Hubzilla - they're much more intuitive for a layperson parachuting to the ground after jumping from the cesspit over at Faceplant.
I think that more than anything, not being pretty enough for the subjugated chattel coming from Twitter and Faceplant, was the most difficult thing for onboarders to embrace. Mike placed all of his focus on functionality and forward thinking vision with respect to what these and later efforts could provide the masses, but the "prettification" was left to others who didn't step up for the challenge for many years. I'm all for features six-ways to Sunday, but I also feel that many things need to be hidden from the landing page a new user sees upon account creation - the very basics they expect should be there, akin to those available in the deprecated monolithic space; users expect this, but they don't yet know they not only want, but really need all of these other feature sets too, yet some things should left, IMO, to be discovered later by the user.
And in my conversations years ago with Mike, I gleaned as much from him [paraphrased, of course]: "Here's this really bitchen gift for the masses, it does all this kewl stuff, now I leave it up to others to make it pretty" (and with a sense of coherency that these former subjugated chattel can initially get their heads around). Putting all that stuff right in their face was awe inspiring, but foreboding at the same time for many.
Well, finally, people are making it pretty :) And they're also moving much of the overwhelming busy-ness elsewhere in the UI. As a result, there's been an explosion of adoption - not even primarily from former masto folks either.
I'd like to touch on the notion of community one more time in closing. It might be convenient for n00bie onboarders to glean a bit about how a particular platform functions, but just like in your own neighborhood where you live, you make friends elsewhere mostly - at work, at functions of the hobbies you engage in, with friends you meet at the grocery store or libraries, and the beaches or on hiking or 4x4 weekend excursions. It's the same way in the Fediverse, you make your friends through connections here and there through people you discover along the way, and 99% of them ARE NOT on your particular server instance.
They don't need to be either, because this is the Fediverse :)
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@jupiter_rowland @danie10 @thenexusofprivacy @mikedev
Okay first I should state that I've never actually said that masto isn't a solid and capable platform. It is, but at a severe cost - the design of masto, notwithstanding the insistence on maintaining a historically lackluster feature set when compared with almost any other Fediverse software, is such that it really isn't built for #DeSoc - it really strives to be some sort of unachievable ideal for the monolithic silo model.
No one but me seems to site this nowadays, but masto doesn't even really shine with respect to cost in terms of system resources and stability until you approach the 20,000 user account mark. What? Why would you do that? Back when these stats were being bandied about, Pleroma was showcasing its new #Gopher protocol (browsing) support, and reminding people that it felt perfectly at home on an #rPi. No such claim was ever made for masto, lolz. That doesn't mean that the other platforms aren't just as capable of scaling vertically... but... why? Who's going to foot the bill? Who's going to manage all of those un-vetted people creating accounts on your machines? Why would someone bother with that in the first place?
Community? Nope - there's no sense of community on masto servers, and I'll get to that later. Because you want to create your own private Idaho? Probably.
mastodon.socialis one of, if not the, largest deprecated monolithic silos existing in the Fediverse today. Why? What possible benefit could be derived by driving a million people into a single funnel under the auspices of telling them that they're escaping that very same model? It's ludicrous.No matter what happens in the short term, Eugen is assured of his parachute and comfortable retirement fund, except for the part where he forgot to have his new significant other sign a pre-nup - that might dash his net worth later, but that's another consideration entirely. I hope his marriage is actually a long and fruitful one that lasts forever, he's not a bad guy, he's just been courted and corrupted by the "Ooh shiney" phenomenon of financial entrapments that come with relative success in the media and pop culture.
The reason masto needs to be hard forked (several times, IMO) is not to create a better masto that will lend itself to DeSoc, #smolweb, and self-hosting on people's home networks, but rather, to further dilute the trademark, and especially the brand, effectively killing it if possible, supplanting it with Fediverse instead. People like to bounce around that term inclusivity, well, this accomplishes that.
Forks of masto aren't going to create a better masto. No way. Sure, some improvements on this one, other features on that one, but dilution of the brand until it is only as significant as any other deserving Fediverse platform is and should be the ultimate goal. It's not well suited, architecturally for horizontal scaling anyway, unless you don't mind throwing all those system resources at it that could better serve you elsewhere with something like #GoToSocial or one of the #Misskey and #Pleroma family fork members.
True leaders in the Fediverse will initially be those platforms that have planned ahead and accommodate other DeSoc protocols, arguably Fediverse protocols, at this time, #Diaspora, #OStatus, #Nomad, #Zot, and even others that some #Fedizens turn their noses up at, like #nostr and #Bluesky's #ATP. #ActivityPub is NOT the end-all, be-all for the future. It is the golden calf of today, and just as others that have come before, it will morph and evolve or be obviated by others that will be plugged into the platforms currently running it - #Friendica, #Hubzilla, and Streams are prime examples of this, and Friendica especially, considering it's the only extant original member of the Fediverse for all intents and purposes. One could say that Friendica is the #Slackware of the Fediverse, lolz.
With respect to Friendica in particular, but also Hubzilla and others that have arrived at this obvious conclusion, ActivityPub is merely the major vehicle by which it communicates with other decentralized social communications systems on the Internet. I don't think it has ever lost sight of that, like another of its contemporaries, #GNU_Social did.
Hemming large masses of people onto a single (and at this time appearing to be) and open walled garden has the immediate effect of control over large swaths of population - you can say this, but not that. You can think this, but not that. You can be this, but not that. You can believe this, but not that - under penalty of excommunication.
In reality, we don't have strong friendships with our neighbors - that's why we have fences. We wave to them and say hi, call the cops when they're on vacation and see someone suspicious lurking about their property. That's about the extent of being a neighbor. We invite our friends and coworkers over for BBQ's and to swim in our pools, not so much our neighbors.
The current masto social architecture is the antithesis of that, and so is it's physical architecture - put all the lobsters in the same pot of boiling water. Turn on and off their ability to speak all at once. Force them en masse to endure advertising blitzes (Oh, mark my word that's coming) decided upon by the server admin. It's like Baba O'Reilly by The Who - "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss".
That's not the promise of Fediverse. it's the antonym.
masto also hinders innovation, attempting to define, dictate even, what should and should not be available - Nomadic identity is but one emerging facet of what is fracturing the masto monopolistic initiative - and that's a good thing, because with the help of FEPs, already, others are adopting various cooperative models for this as well, but discussing that now, and here, at this time, is more of a tangent so I'll get back to the point.
Jupiter:
> That's why people still fork Mastodon to add features that are available just about everywhere else.Indeed it is, and why it has managed to enjoy a reasonable level of notoriety. There's also the wholly undeserved notion of community that actually, in direct opposition to, masto has continually sought to break and in a very big way, break.
There are certainly platforms (mostly forumware) that curate a sense of community, but those days are largely past. Whether it was #gplus, #Myspace, #Faceplant, #InstaSPAM, or #Twitter; because just as it is in real life, #COMMUNITY is that which you define for yourself through your connections - your follows and those who choose to follow your account. The biggest failures in the Fediverse that I've personally observed are those that seek to localize, geographically or by shared interest, a monolithic ivory tower of sameness and similarity amongst people.
I felt so awful for one guy who, so enthusiastically upon discovering the Fediverse, started registering domain names corresponding to several states, thinking that he would be successful in launching a geographically oriented family of masto based servers tending to the shared interests of people by offering them a place to congregate. He quickly discovered the fatal flaw in his model, but was stuck with hefty data center bills to maintain all these masto servers that were largely uninhabited.
Trying to get rid of your masto subscribers when you figure out that you need to egress from it is not an easy task without disenfranchising your user base. I know, because a few years back, not long after
@Gledarchived his #mastodo fork and urged everyone to adopt Pleroma instead, I face the daunting task of trying to convince my user base to migrate elsewhere - it took more than a year to accomplish!Danie:
> thing is though there are also many existing alternatives to Mastodon already on the Fediverse, so why fork it?In a nutshell, because it serves to, at the very least, dilute the masto brand, and more likely kill it. It has served its purpose and now that it has been exposed as a vehicle antithetical to #DeSoc, it's time to deprecate it.
My introduction to the #Fediverse occurred when I stumbled upon an earlier incarnation of #Friendica, started looking at #Red_Matrix, and discovered that the monolithic model, if not having been shown the door, had at least been handed its hat.
The problem at that time, was the effect of Prettiness, and of course, UX. Friendica wasn't too bad in that latter sense, when compared to that of Faceplant, but it sure didn't even come close to being as pretty as Faceplant - or even Myspace, which had only recently fallen into the abyss. That's changed A LOT, even in just the past year, with respect to Friendica and Hubzilla - they're much more intuitive for a layperson parachuting to the ground after jumping from the cesspit over at Faceplant.
I think that more than anything, not being pretty enough for the subjugated chattel coming from Twitter and Faceplant, was the most difficult thing for onboarders to embrace. Mike placed all of his focus on functionality and forward thinking vision with respect to what these and later efforts could provide the masses, but the "prettification" was left to others who didn't step up for the challenge for many years. I'm all for features six-ways to Sunday, but I also feel that many things need to be hidden from the landing page a new user sees upon account creation - the very basics they expect should be there, akin to those available in the deprecated monolithic space; users expect this, but they don't yet know they not only want, but really need all of these other feature sets too, yet some things should left, IMO, to be discovered later by the user.
And in my conversations years ago with Mike, I gleaned as much from him [paraphrased, of course]: "Here's this really bitchen gift for the masses, it does all this kewl stuff, now I leave it up to others to make it pretty" (and with a sense of coherency that these former subjugated chattel can initially get their heads around). Putting all that stuff right in their face was awe inspiring, but foreboding at the same time for many.
Well, finally, people are making it pretty :) And they're also moving much of the overwhelming busy-ness elsewhere in the UI. As a result, there's been an explosion of adoption - not even primarily from former masto folks either.
I'd like to touch on the notion of community one more time in closing. It might be convenient for n00bie onboarders to glean a bit about how a particular platform functions, but just like in your own neighborhood where you live, you make friends elsewhere mostly - at work, at functions of the hobbies you engage in, with friends you meet at the grocery store or libraries, and the beaches or on hiking or 4x4 weekend excursions. It's the same way in the Fediverse, you make your friends through connections here and there through people you discover along the way, and 99% of them ARE NOT on your particular server instance.
They don't need to be either, because this is the Fediverse :)
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Thank you for the optimistic PoV on the entrance of others to the #DeSoc of the Fediverse. It is an optimism that I share - especially with Matthias' announcement just an hour ago that his team behind the development of the #WordPress ActivityPub plugin has just released version 2.0.0 - considering the enormous footprint of WordPress installations across the entire Internet belonging to both common, everyday individuals and companies alike, of every shape and size, this is HUGE news.
It instantly, overnight, positions common folks and businesses to leap into the freedoms afforded them by the existing, privacy respecting, #FOSS based Fediverse that hitherto was... well, a bit of a leap for them psychologically. But now they have a familiar platform with which to begin a journey through the minefields of the deprecated, privacy mining, monolithic silos; its proprietors programming their masses of #subjugated_chattel into livestock holding pens, where they are weighed, measured, packaged, placed into inventory, and sold.
That does raise the issue of an error in your assertions however. You mentioned,
"instances in Meta's fediverses and on Bluesky".The truth however, the reality, is that each are merely a single instance - One big monolithic silo, as described above, with the same incentives of monetization through privacy mining techniques that have made them the dreadnoughts that they are; at least in the case of #Meta (Threads).
Bluesky is of that vertically scaling market as well, but much smaller than the #Faceplant and #InstaSPAM engines operated by Meta, and now their new spearhead into the DeSoc space occupied by ActivityPub and other decentralized or federated protocol based, horizontally scaling instances.
#Bluesky hasn't actually shown their hand yet to the general public, but already, they've disenfranchised (fired) much of their talent; some, actually principal architects of their monolith who were frustrated and disillusioned with the direction Jay has been taking the company - moving further and further away from the disowned public community they spawned, organized, and abandoned following the initial trials and tests of the open source preview version of what became #ATP protocol (ATX).
Even Jack has moved on and embraced yet another horizontally scaling protocol in the DeSoc space, #nostr, and it's already bridged and interoperating flawlessly with the ActivityPub powered portion of the Fediverse, which in turn interoperates with instances running other protocols such as #Nomad, #OStatus, #Streams, #Diaspora, and #ZOT... all of them part of the Fediverse.
Many of the extant #ActivityPub powered instances in the Fediverse merely need to install these capabilities with a couple of clicks to enable this interoperability, while others bridge the divide through infrastructure developed and deployed over the past year or so.
What will be Meta's use case here for their business product?
That's the main question I think folks need to address - not punish the good people on the so-called evil side of the divide, the hitherto subjugated chattel that populate Marks so-called Metaverse or whatever he thinks he can compel people to adopt and endure. The point is, childish, domain level blocking by juvenile minds operating ActivityPub powered #Fediverse server instances only serves to paint themselves (and the users who have to date trusted those admins with being told what they can and cannot see and do) into a corner where they effectively cancel themselves, and find that their users have migrated to other spaces... maybe WordPress, where they truly control their own destiny in the DeSoc space and can now fully participate and engage with others - but on their own terms, not someone else's.
And that, I believe, is what the whole thing has always been about, going back as far as #AngelFire and #GeoCities :)
I do agree with you that we should indeed embrace these common, everyday individuals who, through their programmed ignorance, are mostly clueless as to exactly what the Fediverse is, and more importantly, has always promised for them. This is an opportunity, like Steve Austin, (the Six Million Dollar Man): "We can rebuild them, we have the technology, we can make them better, stronger, faster..."
One more thing I should correct you on, the Fediverse is an internetwork of networks, on the Internet - there are no fediverses, Fediverse is itself a plurality, but your intent wasn't lost on me.
Great article, I enjoyed the read and most of all, your optimistically tempered intent. Thanks for sharing and I hope to see much more from you in the future!
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We've been discussing these issues, amongst others lately in the Fediverse-City room on Matrix, what with the relative demise of
Meetup.comfollowing its acquisition by WeWork, and the rise of *events over at Faceplant further obviating them having much to do with a plethora of event management projects exploding onto the scene for the past couple of years.It's been a while since I've visited #Faceplant, so long in fact, I only recently became aware a couple of years ago that they had a marketplace that has largely supplanted craigslist, and finding out just today that they in fact have some sort of events system - that speaks volumes, I think, toward my dedication to dogfooding my #FOSS and simply ignoring, for the most part, there are still some privacy disrespecting operators in the deprecated monolithic silo space of social networking.
#Mobilizon, #Hubzilla, #Rebased, and #Friendica have their own take on how these event management systems should #Federate through the rest of the #Fediverse, while others mentioned in the article below, including #WordPress try to fit into that niche in a cooperative, interoperable way... and it's paying off. Bigtime.
It's a good read, events are powerful for hobbyists, technologists, sports enthusiasts, and just about any kind of IRL or remote attendance awareness and organizing; so it only stands to reason that #DeSoc, and social networking in general include the capabilities to seamlessly propagate events as globally possible.
At the very least, events are heralded as one of the best ways to get free pizza 🍕 and beer 🍺 with others that have common interests. After a veritable shitload of funding from many sources, including NGI0 and even larger corporate sponsors, we're approaching a place where anyone with a Fediverse account, even on the smolweb or most obscure platforms like Threads, will be privy to things like announcements, RSVP, alerts, Etc., of upcoming events, regardless of whether your Fediverse platform of choice directly supports event management.
And it is perhaps a little ironic, that #Threads users themselves will likely have at their disposal, an event notification and management capability in direct conflict with the one that Meta wants them to use - I dunno how that's going to work out, but I think it's pretty kewl that nobody else does either at this time.
#tallship #Fediverse_City #NGI0 h/t to @silverpill for the heads up on the following article, he just always seems to know where that rabbit is hiding in the tophat and pulls it right out when it's most needed, lolz.
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I've seen this on four social networks in the #Fediverse now in just over a week - #ActivityPub, #ZOT, #nostr, and #Movim/XMPP. These memes are going around, but what about those privacy disrespecting, deprecated legacy silos like #Faceplant, #Twitter, and #InstaSPAM or #Reddit - Why is it that we're preaching to the choir instead of to the sinners of the #SunnyVale_Syndrome?
Go forth, save those poor souls over on the silos, Tell them that they're pork bellies. Muahahaha!
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Amen!
Death to all of the deprecated, privacy disrespecting legacy silos of the surveillance state!
We lost another maverick Independant service this week after 23 years of community service - Gigablast.
#tallship #Twatter #Faceplant #InstaSPAM #Reddit #Medium #YouTube #Quora #Google #Apple
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Exactly how I feel about #social_media in general - I have more than enough to do throughout the #Fediverse (every aspect of the things in life occur here)... So why would I waste my otherwise free time on things like Twitter or #Faceplant or #InstaSPAM?
Thank you so much for your input and valuable insight! 👍
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Hi Derek!
And greetings from the remote mountain regions of #Humboldt where we export the genetics for those 🌺 flowers 🤘💀🤘
Anyway...
I'm trying to your post in which you both misconstrued and misinformed the reader with alarmist, and generally misunderstood narrative.
Specifically, and respectfully:
>***"I wonder if people using mastodon know that, without section 230, no one could legally afford to run a mastodon instance in the US. Section 230 protects what we do here every day. Politicians threatening 230 are threatening free speech on the internet."***
Although we'll go over both sentences, the part that I really take exception to is the first one:
- "I wonder if people using mastodon know that, without section 230, no one could legally afford to run a mastodon instance in the US."
I quoted you twice for emphasis, because what you said is simply NOT TRUE, at all Derek, but who would want to run a single user mastodon server instance anyway?
Okay a select few, but it's not economical to do so - here's why:
It's such #bloatware and a #resource_hog compared to other, more capable and featureful #Fediverse servers, like #Pleroma, #Takahē, #Epicyon, #Akkoma, #Calckey, #Soapbox, #Friendica, #Socialhome, #MicroblogPub, #Misskey, #Smithereen, and the list goes on and on for a while; a veritable laundry list of platforms endowed with more feature rich, more resource and energy conserving footprints.
You could call mastodon the white elephant in the room when it comes to kruft, waste of energy and resources, or lack of the most desired features by it's traditional userbase (although people are nowadays migrating their accounts to these other Fediverse platforms in ever increasing numbers).
Like you, I'm also a staunch proponent of Section 230, as it was originally intended and written - to protect publishers, NOT editors. But most of the conservative agendas to which you refer only seek to remove protections for sites that cross that line between that of #publisher to that of #editor anyway - so as long as you don't interfere with a user's #speech those deprecated silos would have nothing to worry about.
It's the Marxist/Leftist agendas in Congress that you need to worry about - they're proposing complete evisceration of section 230 - and yes, that would jeopardize, probably even put those monolithic deprecated silos out of business for good.
- I see very little that is bad about killing a rabid animal... Or a fox in the henhouse.
But... riddle me this Batman:
What would be so bad about that? It would destroy the surveillance plutocracy and data farming of individuals and their identities by those socalled, "Big-Tech" subjugation engines like #Faceplant, #InstaSPAM, #Reddit, #Twitter, and to a large degree, #Google too... (It won't do anything to stop the likes of Amazon or Apple though wrt their surveillance programs).
All if that, while at the same time encourage the migration of people to a fully decentralized and safer social media network where there are either no platforms (only censor proof protocols), as in #nostr; or #federated #SmallWeb and single user #ActivityPub platform instances; or those #Fediverse platforms that vow not to #molest_users who #publish on those platforms by imposing draconian #editorializing (censorship) upon their users.
Either way you can certainly look at this as a win-win situation for the #individual in #social_media networking. The question really is therefore, "How badly do you wish to punish the privacy disrespecting subjugation farms that comprise that deprecated, monolithic silo space?"
I hope that helps, Enjoy!
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@DaemonFC What?
oic...
You're apparently referring to people who don't self-host where it's patently obvious that's not a bright idea.
Okay, but, why would you expect it to be any other way - because you trust a big corporation (Automatic) that publishes #FOSS?
Remember that this is a moot point for those who self-host and #WordPress is by far the most ubiquitous one-click solution across the spectrum of independent hosting providers 😎
WordPress.com isn't any different than any other privacy disrespecting, deprecated, monolithic silo.
#tallship #silos #privacy #dystopia #despotism #censorship #Automatic #Faceplant #InstaSPAM
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@gordoooo_z @PhenomX6 @futurebird @ink8 Whatever Eugen decides at this point it’s irrelevant. He’s pretty much lost his grip over holding the Fediverse brand as secondary to the notion of a fantasy “mastodon network” when he gave that Time Magazine interview two months ago in which the word “Fediverse” appeared not one single time - that caused enormous, untold damages including confusion that remains in the news media and disenfranchisement of large swaths of developers and users alike on not just other platforms, but mastodon instances themselves.
There’s really no such thing as toots anymore, Eugen himself refers to “Posts” and “Quote Posts”, and the submit button in mastodon now says “publish”. The reason #Misskey calls them “notes” is because that’s what they are actually called in #ActivityPub - there are also other types, that other platforms use as well, including “article”, although, instances like #qoto have set the character count for notes at 65535 🙂
It’s been covered in this thread already that Quote Posts are simply beyond the control of mastodon devs, Eugen’s edicts, or local mastodon users or admins, because most other platforms support it and there isn’t anything #mastopub can do about it. In Misskey, users can disallow it, but that only affects other local users, so it’s s moot point (except for silo instances).
There are very few Fediverse platforms that aren’t taking advantage of most things that are possible, for example, #Soapbox now has federated events, and introduced custom emoji reactions like Misskey has, and live chat - Misskey’s traditionally led the way with these federating features with #Calckey going even further.
Some platforms however, intentionally incorporate a leaner set of features; #Smithereen is one example, it doesn’t even sccomodate boosts, which harkens back to #Myspace, #VKontakte (aka, “VK” - not sure I spelled that right), and very early #Faceplant days. #Epicyon has anti-silo capabilities baked in.
#Mitra has #Substack style subscriptions at it’s core. Anyone can subscribe remotely from any Fediverse server instance where the user can receive DMs - and in congruence with privacy concerns that are typically expected for Fediverse implementations, it’s based on #Monero (XMR).
Most platforms also support #Markdown, with Cakckey being perhaps supporting the greatest superset IIRC, including #LaTEX, and #Friendica, being much older than msstodon, has continued to evolve over the past decade and still has support for #BBCode too, and direct links for uploading images for those who prefer to.
I didn’t see any mention of Markdown support when I bothered to look at the mastopub roadmap, yet even on that platform, Quote Posts are all throughout the stream and people boost and reply to them as the time - and, as mentioned earlier, anyone can create a post, simply pasting the link from someone else’s post, and then boost that… Voila! Local #Quote_Post.
mastodon was successful in its arrogance of leveraging some pretty graphics and welcoming verbiage into a brand that Eugen weaponized against virtually all other Fediverse platforms, and now, with all of the fine forks like #Hometown and several newcomers, we’ll soon be seeing hardforking as a result of that hostility.
But not just forks, funding and ambitious development as evidenced by existing and emerging platforms like #Cloudflare’s #Wildebeest, Tumbler, and the very unique, #Django based Takahē Fediverse server that I wrote about here:
https://tallship.writeas.com/takahe-a-new-fediverse-paradigm
Average people are already migrating in larger numbers everyday away from the archaic mastodonian resource hog to other, more capable and promising (and friendlier) platforms elsewhere in the Fediverse that have integrated and fully support #masto_migration, and even ones that don’t (yet) haver that feature.
Unlike other dinosaurs and the eponymous mammal for which Eugen chose the namesake of his #TootSuite product, we shouldn’t expect extinction for his platform, but the apathy and indifference levels are rising, as is the enmity in many sectors of the community for what others perceive as a betrayal (or sellout), and that kind of self-inflicted damage is often difficult to mitigate, with waves of disenchantment reverberating get into the future… Just look at what happened to #SourceForge - it still technically exists, but never recovered after the community betrayal it committed years ago.
And finally, there’s a irony so obvious that’s it’s not even plausible to deny… Eugen subverted the very rudimentary principal that the Fediverse network is ideologically predicated upon - #DeSoc… There’s no question that his goals shifted to that if building a silo for himself, at least to some great degree. Very sad.
An interesting thing about condescending others, you find yourself alone and isolated in an otherwise vibrant, busy world.
#tallship #Takahe #ActivityPub #privacy #community_values #FOSS
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Hi Daniel, that's a few questions, which begs that question, "Why the heck would I use a mastodon account?"
One reason, certainly isn't because I can currently ask or answer questions, including tags and addresses I'm CC 'ing in less than 500 characters - because we can't, generally.
So you're really asking if you can carry the feature sets already supported by most #Fediverse platforms to a resource hog that turns out to be good for little more than short bursts of text and pasting links to 3rd party resources located somewhere else, here's what might help...
In mastodon, there are some links that will imbed images and some that won't. It's willy nilly, and depends how you do it. Every platform handles this a little differently, so settling on one that meets your needs on a platform by platform comparison is prudent.
Those such as #Soapbox, #Calckey, #Friendica, and others actually do support much of what you're asking.
Currently, yes you have to do what others already do in the #silo_space when it comes to linking different types of media platforms. i.e., #Faceplant, #Twatter, #InstaSPAM, #YouTube, #Reddit...
Analogs are those #Fediverse platforms already mentioned above and others such as #Pixelfed, #FunkWhale, #PeerTube, #Lemmy, #OwnCast, #Castopod, etc.
There are currently a few ways that people are achieving what you're pondering.
#ZOT has nomadic profiles and in #Hubzilla you can enable the #ActivityPub addon. But your nomadic profile doesn't include anything related to your other #ActivityPub based Fediverse accounts.
Since you inferred merely adding additional hosts for each of those Fediverse platform analogs under your gultsch.social domain, you might want to consider adding #OIDC support to your Fediverse servers. This can provide you with #SSO capabilities. Some organizations currently do that.
And there's also what #Minds is doing, although they still haven't managed to finish integrating ActivityPub into their platform. They've layered #Nostr into Minds. A few Fediverse platforms are experimenting with doing that very same thing too.
The "ActivityPub"way is, of course, what you mentioned - find the video and and comment or boost it from another account, but many platforms like SoapBox and Friendica will generally render the image or video linked. Calckey will render previews of at least 3 links per post.
So it's not really that much different, when posting links, to how the deprecated, privacy disrespecting, legacy monolithic silo platforms do it, but you also have the opportunities to follow, comment, boost, and #Quote_Post other people's (and your own) content from across the Fediverse.
Kinda kewl, but in most cases, unless you layer something like Nostr or OIDC on top of your infrastructure, there really isn't a way currently to use a single user identity enabling you traverse all of your accounts across the platforms and share, boost, etc.
I hope that helps!
#tallship #FOSS #internetworking #DeSoc
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takahē - A new Fediverse paradigm
Fresh out of the oven is #Takahē, introducing a very interesting basic functional motive for development and delivering a beautiful #UX. It also derives inspiration in the form of its #mascott from a species once thought extinct for about a century.
That is, until a single man obsessed with the saga of this large, flightness bird since his early childhood, endlessly sought out and eventually rediscovered it was actually extant 75 years ago through his tireless efforts.
In recent years, and not without some particularly problematic attempts in the management of this #endangered species, the population of these magnificent birds has more or less stabilized at around 100 members living in the wild, thanks to the committed efforts of a government sponsored #refoliation, hatching, and rearing program; in conjunction with a comprehensive scientific tagging, tracking, and monitoring effort of those members released into the wild alongside the wild-born members of the #population.
The software project itself has struck me as rather special too, and not just for its two functionally unique characteristics amongst other #Fediverse platforms - first, and similar to name based #SSL hosting on #HTTP servers with #SNI, Takahē provides multi-domain virtual hosting capabilities to #ActivityPub - **this is huge**, and opens the door for for even the casusl home self-hoster to provide #turnkey #SaaS offerings to their friends and family members in the form of small and #single user "virtual Fediverse server instances", in consumer based home #LAN environments - let alone the potential for commercial hosting endeavors.
To my knowledge, ***this is the very first time* this novel approach to Fediverse networking over ActivityPub has been broached**.
jointakahe.org/
***If you hurry***, you might still be able to secure for yourself an account in their limited beta program.
Go ahead, you can do that now, I'll still be here when you get back 😎
And as if that alone were not enough to revolutionize the paradigm and dynamic of the Fediverse, **Takahē also introduces multiple account (alt) identities for each user user account on the server**. This can only be described as freaking groundbreaking!
A single user account for a person might be the base for say, both @[email protected] *AND* @userone@SLD02 .TLD02 *AND* @usertwo@SLD02 .TLD02 - that, at least to me, can only be described as, **"The Bees Knees"**.
I'm sure that many will cite, and of course it is not only possible but quite likely, that this will lower the bar for abusive actors to engage in shenanigans. However true as that may be, such potential (and existing practice) exists already within the Fediverse so the ease with which bad actors will avail themselves of such toolings only is only trivially simplified, not introduced; besides, complaining about such a thing is irrelevant - *the cat is already out of the bag*.
Indeed, there are already other Fediverse server platforms (such as the Hubzilla (ZOT) and Misskey families of forks and variants that already support the creation and management of multiple identities under a single account anyway - but Bringing the SNI shared hosting experience into production with a single Fediverse server instance is truly unprecedented in Fediverse space.
There's a lot more. **Did I mention the beautiful, and exceedingly intuitive UI?** Of course I did!
There's another corollary that I alluded to. Did you miss it? It was right there, *before your eyes*.
Yes, there's a metaphor, craftily scripted between the lines of everything you just read (that is, if you didn't tl;dr).
The impetus for much of #decentralization (DeSoc) and the #Genesis of the Fediverse is arguably the notion of what was indeed a #decentralized #World Wide Web over the fully decentralized #Internet, having falling victim to capture by special interests - the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy disrespecting and #legacy #monolithic silos - owned, spawned, and managed by mega surveillance-capitalism #data mining corporations.... IOW, the so-called, **Sunnyvale Syndrome**.
This effectively killed of much of the notion that there even still existed an independant, #distributed network of services and sites truly belonging to the #individual participants, i.e., average #schmoes like you and me.
For sometime now, many have even claimed and argued that the kinder, friendlier #web of days gone by, where small #communities of #people and #websites belonging to #individuals and small businesses were actually #extinct in reality - with only those well heeled analytically correct, SEO optimized, #subjugated websites and #chattel in the form of people that had sworn #fealty to their lords and masters remaining. #Apple, #Amazon, the #Google and #Faceplant having long since taken #possession of their souls and #identities.
It's dark, so *incredibly dark*. And you have awakened to find yourself at the bottom of a well that you *apparently* have fallen into. There's plenty of water, you're knee deep in it, and a voice from above booms aloud that food will be delivered so long as, ***"It puts the lotion on its skin!"***
And in a manner of speaking, following an *"Internet century"* (think, 'dog years') of a #dystopian #feudal Institution where _Homo sapien_ drones existing in #Lords and Vassals lockstep, told what to think, how to believe, where to shit, and when to wake up and punch the time clock, had completely replaced the actually extinct human race... Well?...
***Fast forwarding to the scene where...***
Some awkward little child in a dimly candlelit bedroom, many children, truth be told, consumed with the dreams of, and empowered with an obsessive belief that, a world where real, unique and independently diverse human beings actually existed, grew up and many years later *rediscovered that they really did still walk the earth*.
Kinda like the true story of the **Takahē**. And we too, *are beautiful*.
I'm leaving the rest for you to discover for yourselves, and look forward to many discussions on this invigorating topic. In the meantime, you can follow:
@takahe
I can be reached on Matrix at:
`@tallship:matrix.org`
via XMPP at:
`[email protected]`
and in the Fediverse at:
`@[email protected]`
I hope that helps! Enjoy!
#tallship #FOSS #virtual hosting #multiple identity #DeSoc #Sunnyvale Syndrome #AOL Effect
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Fresh out of the oven is #Takahē, introducing a very interesting basic functional motive for development and delivering a beautiful #UX. It also derives inspiration in the form of its #mascott from a species once thought extinct for about a century.
That is, until a single man obsessed with the saga of this large, flightness bird since his early childhood, endlessly sought out and eventually rediscovered it was actually extant 75 years ago through his tireless efforts.
In recent years, and not without some particularly problematic attempts in the management of this #endangered_species, the population of these magnificent birds has more or less stabilized at around 100 members living in the wild, thanks to the committed efforts of a government sponsored #refoliation, hatching, and rearing program; in conjunction with a comprehensive scientific tagging, tracking, and monitoring effort of those members released into the wild alongside the wild-born members of the #population.
The software project itself has struck me as rather special too, and not just for its two functionally unique characteristics amongst other #Fediverse platforms - first, and similar to name based #SSL hosting on #HTTP servers with #SNI, Takahē provides multi-domain virtual hosting capabilities to #ActivityPub - this is huge, and opens the door for for even the casusl home self-hoster to provide #turnkey #SaaS offerings to their friends and family members in the form of small and #single_user "virtual Fediverse server instances", in consumer based home #LAN environments - let alone the potential for commercial hosting endeavors.
To my knowledge, this is the very first time this novel approach to Fediverse networking over ActivityPub has been broached.
If you hurry, you might still be able to secure for yourself an account in their limited beta program.
Go ahead, you can do that now, I'll still be here when you get back 😎
And as if that alone were not enough to revolutionize the paradigm and dynamic of the Fediverse, Takahē also introduces multiple account (alt) identities for each user user account on the server. This can only be described as freaking groundbreaking!
A single user account for a person might be the base for say, both @[email protected] AND @userone@SLD02 .TLD02 AND @usertwo@SLD02 .TLD02 - that, at least to me, can only be described as, "The Bees Knees".
I'm sure that many will cite, and of course it is not only possible but quite likely, that this will lower the bar for abusive actors to engage in shenanigans. However true as that may be, such potential (and existing practice) exists already within the Fediverse so the ease with which bad actors will avail themselves of such toolings only is only trivially simplified, not introduced; besides, complaining about such a thing is irrelevant - the cat is already out of the bag.
Indeed, there are already other Fediverse server platforms (such as the Hubzilla (ZOT) and Misskey families of forks and variants that already support the creation and management of multiple identities under a single account anyway - but Bringing the SNI shared hosting experience into production with a single Fediverse server instance is truly unprecedented in Fediverse space.
There's a lot more. Did I mention the beautiful, and exceedingly intuitive UI? Of course I did!
There's another corollary that I alluded to. Did you miss it? It was right there, before your eyes.
Yes, there's a metaphor, craftily scripted between the lines of everything you just read (that is, if you didn't tl;dr).
The impetus for much of #decentralization (DeSoc) and the #Genesis of the Fediverse is arguably the notion of what was indeed a #decentralized #World_Wide_Web over the fully decentralized #Internet, having falling victim to capture by special interests - the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy_disrespecting and #legacy #monolithic_silos - owned, spawned, and managed by mega surveillance-capitalism #data_mining corporations.... IOW, the so-called, Sunnyvale Syndrome.
This effectively killed of much of the notion that there even still existed an independant, #distributed_network of services and sites truly belonging to the #individual_participants, i.e., average #schmoes like you and me.
For sometime now, many have even claimed and argued that the kinder, friendlier #web of days gone by, where small #communities of #people and #websites belonging to #individuals and small businesses were actually #extinct in reality - with only those well heeled analytically correct, SEO optimized, #subjugated websites and #chattel in the form of people that had sworn #fealty to their lords and masters remaining. #Apple, #Amazon, the #Google and #Faceplant having long since taken #possession of their souls and #identities.
It's dark, so incredibly dark. And you have awakened to find yourself at the bottom of a well that you apparently have fallen into. There's plenty of water, you're knee deep in it, and a voice from above booms aloud that food will be delivered so long as, "It puts the lotion on its skin!"
And in a manner of speaking, following an "Internet century" (think, 'dog years') of a #dystopian #feudal Institution where Homo sapien drones existing in #Lords_and_Vassals lockstep, told what to think, how to believe, where to shit, and when to wake up and punch the time clock, had completely replaced the actually extinct human race... Well?...
Fast forwarding to the scene where...
Some awkward little child in a dimly candlelit bedroom, many children, truth be told, consumed with the dreams of, and empowered with an obsessive belief that, a world where real, unique and independently diverse human beings actually existed, grew up and many years later rediscovered that they really did still walk the earth.
Kinda like the true story of the Takahē. And we too, are beautiful.
I'm leaving the rest for you to discover for yourselves, and look forward to many discussions on this invigorating topic. In the meantime, you can follow:
I can be reached on Matrix at:
@tallship:matrix.orgvia XMPP at:
and in the Fediverse at:
@[email protected]I hope that helps! Enjoy!
#tallship #FOSS #virtual_hosting #multiple_identity #DeSoc #Sunnyvale_Syndrome #AOL_Effect
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@colinsmatt11 @shaman @Hyolobrika @gabriel
I recently saw a request from someone describing themselves as a prolific photographer in the #Fedilab #Matrix support room, asking if the devs could add a feature to use the EXIF data for the alt tags - they cited extremely non-trivial effort to do that manually.
It obviously issn't for everyone, with most folks preferring to fill out the alt data for the images they upload themselves, but it made a lot of sense for a #prolific_uploader of images in #Fediverse posts.
I'm glad you brought this up, because it's exactly what I was thinking when I became aware that stripping the EXIF data was the default on #Friendica, and disabling that feature is an "opt-out" option.
I don't even know if there's still such a site as #Foursquare, but about ten years ago it was a popular "check-in" site that integrated with #Faceplant.
You would basically do a check-in wherever you were and people could track you via lat/lon or physical address or the business name IIRC, and you could include pics too I think - that's one use case.
Another very good one, snapping a pic and then later uploading it as a Fediverse post in #Friendica (there's an OSM geolocation plugin), which I gather could generate a map based on the EXIF data in their photo.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen pics and wondered where the photos were taken. #Pixelfed should have such an option (does it?) w/OSM mapping toggle on upload.
I don't think any other Fediverse server platforms have that.
Extrapolating that EXIF data for the alt tags in photos uploaded as part of posts (with corresponding maps even) sounds like a great idea - but preferably not as a default setting lolz.
On another note, there's a shitload of really stupid dope farmers here in Humboldt county posting pics of their weed fields on #InstaSPAM, and then wondering why they're getting helicopter flyovers and "Abatement Letters" from the county, followed by the caravans that roll up the mountain, raid, and destroy their crops lolz.
That's what apps like #ImagePipe are for (stripping EXIF data before posting publicly). ImagePipe is available at F-Droid, BTW. 😜
@Laurien (pls pass on to Sir Spencer - he'll get a kick out of that!)
#tallship #FOSS #privacy #geolocation #EXIF #check_in
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@TheBapa Hey Aral,
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been meaning to ask you what you think about mastodon's hashtag following feature?
The way I see it, since it's designed to work with a local stream it's either...
1. ) Fantastic! Because you can filter in all convos to a custom feed whereby you drill down on your local server whose administrator embraces the ethos of the deprecated, legacy silo systems, or...
2. ) Virtually worthless, because it adds little to no relevance for small web, single user instances or small community instances that eschew the unethical premises that the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy disrespecting #legacy #silos built their #surveillance #empires upon... Because there's little to nothing in their #local feed anyway.
Somewhere in the twixt of those two, perhaps?
Serious question, that goes and speaks to the core nature of just what the #joinmastodon brand is really all about.
Two decades ago #Faceplant quite prominently touted and published their immutable commitment to the vehement and zealous protection of #privacy for their userbase in the extreme.
Could we be headed for a #facetodon or #mastobook phenomenon?
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@TheBapa Hey Aral,
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been meaning to ask you what you think about mastodon's hashtag following feature?
The way I see it, since it's designed to work with a local stream it's either...
1. ) Fantastic! Because you can filter in all convos to a custom feed whereby you drill down on your local server whose administrator embraces the ethos of the deprecated, legacy silo systems, or...
2. ) Virtually worthless, because it adds little to no relevance for small web, single user instances or small community instances that eschew the unethical premises that the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy disrespecting #legacy #silos built their #surveillance #empires upon... Because there's little to nothing in their #local feed anyway.
Somewhere in the twixt of those two, perhaps?
Serious question, that goes and speaks to the core nature of just what the #joinmastodon brand is really all about.
Two decades ago #Faceplant quite prominently touted and published their immutable commitment to the vehement and zealous protection of #privacy for their userbase in the extreme.
Could we be headed for a #facetodon or #mastobook phenomenon?
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@TheBapa Hey Aral,
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been meaning to ask you what you think about mastodon's hashtag following feature?
The way I see it, since it's designed to work with a local stream it's either...
1. ) Fantastic! Because you can filter in all convos to a custom feed whereby you drill down on your local server whose administrator embraces the ethos of the deprecated, legacy silo systems, or...
2. ) Virtually worthless, because it adds little to no relevance for small web, single user instances or small community instances that eschew the unethical premises that the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy disrespecting #legacy #silos built their #surveillance #empires upon... Because there's little to nothing in their #local feed anyway.
Somewhere in the twixt of those two, perhaps?
Serious question, that goes and speaks to the core nature of just what the #joinmastodon brand is really all about.
Two decades ago #Faceplant quite prominently touted and published their immutable commitment to the vehement and zealous protection of #privacy for their userbase in the extreme.
Could we be headed for a #facetodon or #mastobook phenomenon?
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@TheBapa Hey Aral,
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been meaning to ask you what you think about mastodon's hashtag following feature?
The way I see it, since it's designed to work with a local stream it's either...
1. ) Fantastic! Because you can filter in all convos to a custom feed whereby you drill down on your local server whose administrator embraces the ethos of the deprecated, legacy silo systems, or...
2. ) Virtually worthless, because it adds little to no relevance for small web, single user instances or small community instances that eschew the unethical premises that the #deprecated, #proprietary, #privacy disrespecting #legacy #silos built their #surveillance #empires upon... Because there's little to nothing in their #local feed anyway.
Somewhere in the twixt of those two, perhaps?
Serious question, that goes and speaks to the core nature of just what the #joinmastodon brand is really all about.
Two decades ago #Faceplant quite prominently touted and published their immutable commitment to the vehement and zealous protection of #privacy for their userbase in the extreme.
Could we be headed for a #facetodon or #mastobook phenomenon?
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@grishka That notion of IRL my have varying connotations - in the #Myspace days it was often the pseudonymous people you met through that social networking site.
In the #Faceplant era it was supposed to be people you already knew, many you hadn't met in touch with for years.
#Twitter and #InstaSPAM... Isn't that kind of a hybrid of those two paradigms? -
I am a bit disappointed when I witness this type of bullying, and it's not just people that have nothing to offer in the way of a #free_market or lacking a brand for themselves that engage in such #dogpiling.
Trying to define what the Fediverse is in terms of social acceptability is an exercise in futility at best, and in the extreme, it is hate stemming from #envy or projection by those afflicted with self-loathing.
The Fediverse is a #censorship_resistant communications network - go forth in #commerce, go forth in hate, go forth in sharing your backyard barbeques with the family and friends, or promoting your creativity - sharing your printings, photography, electronic project gizmos; these are all #brands, things that define what you care about, and what you are about. It's not a bad thing. It's s good thing, usually.
It is a place where so-called #Big_Tech and #mega_corporations can #participate - but they cannot dominate - it is antithetical to their desire and ambitions of #dominion over the #marketplace.
When your #brand is about capability, personality, product or services that you derive an income or admirer stream from, that is #positivity.
When you pile upon others for having a #dream or #vocation, and denegrate those with s vision for themselves and their talents, that too, is part of your brand - if this is you, then your brand is that of a hater.
It can be frustrating for people entering a social space to feel free enough to #share aspects of themselves with strangers, especially when you're just trying to find your bearings and #navigate that space, and coming face to face with negative personalities that enjoy belittling others. But those people really are quite the vocal minority.
There have always been list bullies, #trolls, and general malcontents in every corner of the online world. That's not going to change. Certain types of mediums seem to exacerbate the extent of their influence, like mediums where only short, hit and run messaging is the constraint.
Short messaging platforms can be ideal for pushing out a quick synopsis of your thoughts and ideas, but there's no reason why you should seek to be constrained by the lack of a platform ability to enable more comprehensive coverage of anything you have to share, market, sell, or produce, because in the #Fediverse, there are many platforms to choose from, and almost all of them afford you with the same ability to communicate your messages, creations, and ideas across the entirety of this space.
In the article below, written by a student endowed with a wealth of said positivity, I suggest reading it while replacing nouns like #Faceplant, #Twatter, #YouTube, and #InstaSPAM with nouns such as, #Friendica, #Pleroma (or mastodon), #PeerTube, and #Pixelfed, respectively; since those are some of the close corollaries we currently enjoy here in the Fediverse, remembering that anything you publish on any of those platforms can be shared and propagated natively across the entire Fediverse - and of course, far beyond.
For the creative types of you out here, say, your thing is selling personalized Converse All-stars with custom paint jobs, it's important to realize that your actual reach when you post far exceeds that which any deprecated, legacy silo systems have the potential for, because that post with the photo of your latest set of "Chucks" crosses the boundaries of one type of social networking platform - it's like if you publish a short video at YouTube and it automatically shows up on InstaSPAM and Twatter, without ever having to make a separate post, or posting a product of your latest commissioned painting (part of your brand) on InstaSPAM and suddenly, everyone following you on #Soapbox, mastodon, #Misskey, and Friendica servers sees it too.
Such is the breadth and reach of publishing anything about you, yourself in the Fediverse - worldwide, in the global feeds of everyone else's Fediverse accounts... And we're only growing, as we continue to retire those old deprecated, legacy silo systems.
Ah, but what about all those #meanies, lambasting you for "breaking the rules" and marketing your image and product brands?
News flash! There are no such fucking rules - only imaginary restrictions envisioned by some people with small-minded, defeatest, insecurity issues, and misery loves company. Those haters and self-loathing unfortunates would like nothing more than to instill such negativity in you, perhaps for personal, or even political reasons.
If you let those worthless, insignificant, but very loud and vocal sorts dictate your happiness and success in any endeavor you choose, whether to simply make friends around the world or marketing whatever it is that you do best and are passionate about, then it might be best if you just unplug your computer, trade in your #Android for a flip-phone, and get a job at the local smelting plant (no offense to steel workers), never again dreaming or aspiring to harness the infinite power of your imagination.
So what to do about these curmudgeon-like trolls and list #bullies that have always been a part of the online, let alone everyday life landscape? The same thing you do in every other situation in your life - ignore, mute, and block them - unceremoniously, without acknowledgement or response. These sad excuses for people have no power whatsoever except that which you grant them, and the Fediverse arms you with the #tools to #filter out their voices entirely.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily disappear from their timelines and feeds. You probably won't, but just as it is when you go to your local ☕ coffee house or grocery store, workplace, or enter your classroom, you filter them out of "your" existence, and suddenly... They cease to exist.
I recently published an article in response to one such dogpiling and so-called, "cancelling" event. Those self-hating projectionists actually believed that by propagating a campaign of negative publicity against another creative newcomer's brand - in this case, Raspberry Pi, they could achieve 'cancellation' of that company and its product line here in the Fediverse. Fat chance.
These semi-organized malcontents actually even published a blog article (linked to in my aforementioned article), documenting their success in destroying that brand, along with it's employees and product line.
The reality however, is much different, in fact quite the opposite affect was evidenced, sort of a #Newtonian "equal and opposite reaction" #physics principle.
These children went so far as to demand from Fediverse server administrators what you may occasionally see hashtagged as #Fediblock - a block of other users and instances at the server level by any Fediverse server admin that will listen, or can be brow beaten into submission... But rarely does anyone pay that sort of nonsense any mind at all. Such measures are reserved for people and instances that most average, everyday folks find offensive - like militant leftist sites, personalities, or kiddie pr0n pedophiles and others cut from the same cloth.
At best, when haters like them folk claim to wage battles against those regular people and #communities that they despise, issuing calls for the ominous sounding "defederate them!", the only thing they actually achieve is "self-cancellation", by virtue of painting themselves into a corner when they "defederate" themselves, and that is usually followed by many of their registered users leaving that instance - in this case, everybody loves Raspberry Pi computers, which you can buy for under fifty bucks.
What did the good folks at Rasberry Pi do to deserve such ineffectual wrath from these hateful sad sacks? Only two things:
First, the company rep, responding to one of these agitators stated the obvious, more or less saying, 'If you don't like us then feel free to unfollow us', and when that resulted in a rather ascerbic retort from the professional hater, the Rasberry Pi spokesperson committed the cardinal sin of simply #blocking the troll.
That's it. No biggy, poof! You're gone. Nothing is worse to these maladjusted losers than being unceremoniously ignored with the forever button. It is comical, but it is also sad. One's mission in life should not be to make others as sad as they themselves are.
Don't let anyone belittle or condescend you. The worst (best) they can do is remove themselves and others like them from your timeline feeds, where you don't actually care to see them anyway - so it's win-win 👍
So just know, your going to hear from your fair share of bullies, trolls, and other types that derive a sick and twisted pleasure from harming others - but this is about you, your products, services, brand, and your happy life in the real 🌎 world.
It is a simple matter to ignore, dismiss, disappear them, and move on - millions of good people, other brands, and customers or new friends want to meet and greet to know you!
https://ylai.state.gov/get-social/
I hope that helps! And have a wonderful time in the Fediverse!
#tallship #brand #bbq #creator #artist #trade #commerce #market #marketing #social
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## Making Better Use of Space
### Moving that old white elephant in the room.
There's been a lot of talk lately, and speculation, about the #Fediverse. Yet for the most part, only with respect to a single brand of server platform.
What I find particularly odd about that, is it's a rather lackluster server platform (especially considering the hefty system requirements) with an extremely limited feature list. Mastodon servers have a hard coded default character count limit per post of only 500 characters - more than Twitter, but not often enough to get a complete thought out with a link to somewhere else, or engage in a conversational thread, and certainly nowhere near what you need to post a news article, holiday recipe, tutorial, HowTo, or movie review.
As if a paltry 500 character limit isn't bad enough for this resource hog, virtually every other Fediverse platform provides for sensible , and configurable message lengths with common defaults of 2000, 5000, or more; most support #Markdown, and other ubiquitous text formats like #LaTex or #HTML, and some even have built in #WYSIWYG editors - like #WordPress, #Hubzilla, and #Drupal, with big players like #Imgur and #Tumblr already looking forward to their official Fediverse launches soon.
When those latter two giants arrive on the scene, the world of social networking will truly be interconnected, having achieved critical mass. It will be a revolution, a juggernaut toppling the deprecated, legacy monolithic silos that have so insidiously subverted and subjugated the masses like chattel. But I digress.
Other Fediverse platforms have offered the ability for people to edit their own posts for a long time, some for years, yet mastodon enabled this capability less than a month ago. It lags behind most other Fediverse platforms in several other ways too - groups, marketplaces, federated chat, and several other often requested functions are all but ignored by that platforms' developer while other Fediverse servers enjoy active and ambitious development cycles with new feature releases.
So considering it is so lacking in basic functionality compared to the other more prominent contemporaries, I've assembled a curated list below where you can evaluate and testdrive others for yourself. I've included links to some of the most darling up and coming projects like #Foundkey and #Quanta, that scale to thousands of users, and if you truly want an even smaller, minimalist Fediverse platform I've included #MicroBlogPub too. There's a couple of web tools including databases so you can search for even more platforms, instances, and compare statistics.
Choosing from the list below, you can join existing instances, self-host your own, or even have a professional #hosting_provider do it for you - simply pick a #turnkey provider where in just a couple of clicks your new fully managed Fediverse server will be online in only a minute or two!
There are literally free and privacy respecting Fediverse platforms to replace everything from #Faceplant, #Twatter, #Reddit, #YouTube, #twitch, #InstaSPAM, #Spotify, #Quora and so very much more!
And most are so light on system resources that you can run then on an old laptop or #Raspberry_Pi in your home.
Without further adieu, here's a list of [some of] the most prominent Fediverse server platforms in operation.
https://join.misskey.page/en-US/instances
https://akkoma.dev/FoundKeyGang/FoundKey
https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/apps
#tallship #FOSS #Soapbox #Rebased #PeerTube #Mitra #Quanta #Pixelfed #Epicyon #Friendica #WriteFreely #Plume #FunkWhale #MicroBlogPub #Socialhome #GotoSocial #Owncast #LoTide #Lemmy #ActivityPub #Privacy #DeSoc #Federating #Decentralize
I hope that helps! Enjoy!
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Mastodon IS NOT the #Fediverse!
The #BDFL of that project saying it's is "vital" illustrates the branding philosophy and corporate, ego driven mindset behind so many PRs and requests that have repeatedly been rejected by an overwhelming amount of Fediverse users and developers - just look at how many 👎 "thumbs down" 👎 reactions his post received (that is rarely seen on GitHub).
His language and marketing have been largely successful, confusing newcomers during this Twitter egress (including media coverage) and conflating just what the Fediverse and mastodon are...
People are saying, "I just joined mastodon!" - NO, you did not. You just joined the "Fediverse", by creating an account on a mastodon server. Even newcomers creating accounts on #Friendica and #Pleroma servers are often seen saying this, and it needs to "STOP".
The Fediverse is the network they are joining, and mastodon is just one of a dozen or so viable platforms that people can use to do so.
Truth be told, mastodon is one of the least feature complete Fediverse server platforms, lacking in many of the most basic social networking tools and features that most other popular server platforms introduced ages ago.
It doesn't even render Markdown, have have quotable boosting, only introduced editing of posts a couple of weeks back, and has a hard coded limit of a paltry 500 characters for each post, forcing users to create those confusingly chronologically backward hellthreads that are interspersed and broken up in everyone's feeds, and there's many more deficiencies to list here.
This is why there are so many different forks.
When you create a #PeerTube account, you haven't joined the PeerTube network - you've joined the Fediverse!
When you create a #Pixelfed account, you haven't joined the Pixelfed network - you've joined the Fediverse!
If you create a mastodon account, you haven't joined "mastodon" - you've joined three Fediverse!
There is no such thing as a mastodon network!
It's just one type of Fediverse server platform, among many, like:
#Akkama, Pleroma, Friendica, #Lemmy, #Soapbox, #Misskey, PeerTube, #Mitra, Pixelfed, #MicroPub, #Epicyon, #Quanta, #GoToSicial, #Socialhome, #FunkWhale, and many many other platforms that open up the entire Fediverse to people, allowing them to share and seamlessly communicate with one another.
There are analogs for #Faceplant, #Twitter, #InstaSPAM, #Reddit, and pretty much any type of social networking experience you can find in the deprecated, centralized, legacy silo systems that cannot, and do not wish to interact with each other - which the Fediverse breaks the paradigm of, and empowers everyone engage with each other globally.
Mastodon's marketing has very deliberately been designed to subvert that narrative and replace this reality with its own, self serving commercial interests to the detriment of Fediverse itself.
A wake up call us coming very soon when the #non_FOSS based platforms like #Tumblr and #Imgur join their (millions) substantial user bases to the Fediverse at which time, mastodon itself may find itself drowned out and largely irrelevant due to its very lacking feature set, and ask if the other existing Fediverse platforms providing so much more if what is possible for us all.
This is typically what happens when your development is driven by egocentric, ulterior motives (whether he actually realizes this about himself or not) to benefit yourself personally - just look at how his donations have jumped, even though newcomers are creating accounts on other Fediverse and mastodon servers begging for donations that for the most part are going directly to him.
#tallship #FOSS #ActivityPub #introductions #newcomers
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@ruario @tallship @Vivaldi I think it's great that you decided to self-host, we should all dogfood our #FOSS when we can, and I think it's great that you chose to select a Mastodon server as the type of Fediverse platform that works for you 🙂
Lately, however, the media coverage, especially the #Time_Magazine interview last month where the word #Fediverse wasn't mentioned a single time, and the mastodon brand was made to sound as if it was the entire network itself?
While I can certainly appreciate that the #BDFL of that product wants to dominate with his brand, that's just ego i suppose, but one of the most significant contributions you can make with the sidebar, IMO, is to place the Fediverse or #ActivityPub logo there.
Seriously. And you can download one from Wikipedia under CC-BY.
I love #Vivaldi, and put up with a lot of jankiness while you were going through growing pains because i knew it would grow into the stellar platform it is today. I constantly update git repos, adding #Vivaldi as an, "also tested to work with" browser in several softwsre projects, because I believe it's important to recognize and acknowledge great symbols of freedom - like #FOSS, like Vivaldi, and like the well deserved recognition that the Fediverse has earned when someone clicks on that button in Vivaldi's sidebar 👍
It's becoming rather alarming, considering that, as FOSS and Privacy Advocates we're facing a difficult endeavor educating folks that Mastodon is NOT the Fediverse - because new adoptees are confused on this critical distinction.
Mastodon can't do #Faceplant, it can't do #InstaSPAM, it can't do #Reddit and it can't do #YouTube functions either... And it is notably lacking in much of what #Twitter does, although it has other merits.
But #Friendica, #Pixelfed, #Lemmy, and #PeerTube do actually directly address those particular niche roles as the Fediverse analogs for those deprecated, legacy silo platforms, respectively.
It would be wonderful if that informative task wasn't made more complicated by what many will consider as careless (and confusing) branding of a feature in what is arguably the best chromium based browser in the contemporary market.
BTW. I typed out this reply in Vivaldi on my #Android 😎
I hope that helps, and kindest regards,
#tallship
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Almost forgot to mention Darius, #Keyoxide is perhaps the best method for verification in today's #DeSoc world of the #Fediverse and even the deprecated legacy monolithic silos like #Faceplant, #Twatter, #InstaSPAM, etc.
https://fosstodon.org/@keyoxide
I hope that helps! Enjoy 🙂
#tallship #FOSS #identity #cryptographic_proofs
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Without further ado, here's a list of all the most prominent #Fediverse server platforms in operation.
Choosing from the list below, you can join existing instances, self-host your own, and when have a professional #hosting_provider do it for your - just pick a #turnkey provider where in just a couple of clicks your new fully managed Fediverse server will be online in only a minute or two!
There's literally free and privacy respecting Fediverse platforms to replace everything from #Faceplant, #Twatter, #Reddit, #YouTube, #twitch, #InstaSPAM, #Spotify, and so very much more!
https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/apps/
#tallship #FOSS #Soapbox #Rebased #PeerTube #Mitra #Quanta #Pixelfed #Friendica #WriteFreely #Plume #FunkWhale #MicroBlogPub #Socialhome #GotoSocial #Owncast #LoTide #Lemmy #ActivityPub #Privacy #DeSoc #Federating #Decentralize
I hope that helps! Enjoy!
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Without further ado, here's a list of all the most prominent #Fediverse server platforms in operation.
Choosing from the list below, you can join existing instances, self-host your own, and when have a professional #hosting_provider do it for your - just pick a #turnkey provider where in just a couple of clicks your new fully managed Fediverse server will be online in only a minute or two!
There's literally free and privacy respecting Fediverse platforms to replace everything from #Faceplant, #Twatter, #Reddit, #YouTube, #twitch, #InstaSPAM, #Spotify, and so very much more!
https://JoinTheFedi.com
https://Soapbox.Pub
https://Btrf.ly
https://JoinPeerTube.org
https://Mitra.Social
https://Pixelfed.org
https://Friendi.ca
https://Quanta.Wiki
https://FediDB.org/software
https://WriteFreely.org
https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/apps/
https://microblog.pub/
https://socialhome.network/
https://owncast.online/
https://join-lemmy.org/
#tallship #FOSS #Soapbox #Rebased #PeerTube #Mitra #Quanta #Pixelfed #Friendica #WriteFreely #Plume #FunkWhale #MicroBlogPub #Socialhome #GotoSocial #Owncast #LoTide #Lemmy #ActivityPub #Privacy #DeSoc #Federating #Decentralize
I hope that helps! Enjoy!
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He's just taking out the trash right now. A lot like Castro did in the 70's.
That will all eventually settle down, with the majority of those participating in the knee-jerk reaction of the #mob_mentality eventually returning...
They've been subjugated as the downtrodden and insignificant chattel of those deprecated, privacy disrespecting, legacy monolithic silos. The #addiction is strong within them and they've been #assimilated by the prettiness of the #Darkside, lolz.
Many will however, choose to stay, enjoying the unbroken promises of #freedom and safety from being weighed, measured, butchered, packaged, and placed into inventory on the shelves of #Faceplant, #Twatter, #InstaSPAM, and other #deprecated_legacy_silos.
Many more will remain here while at the same time cave to the sinister beckonings of those evil mistresses, but at least they'll have one foot 🦶 here in the pasture of green 💚
For those of us that have been in this free space for the past 5 or 6 years, all we can do is welcome them back from the #Borg Collective and try to support their best inclinations as best we can.
The ultimate test of their commitment to protect the ownership of their #intellectual_property, privacy, and #identity is a matter they will ultimately have to decide the importance of for themselves.
Ask the best!
#tallship #FOSS #Fediverse #ActivityPub
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