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  1. @mythologyandhistory @mjj

    Yes I believe him, dressed up like a member of The Specials (maybe sax 🎷 player?), and those punk rock skateboarder Vans that he's sporting with the suit.

    Even the Sex Pistols were bankrolled merely to showcase their manager Malcolm McLaren's clothing boutique at 430 King's Road in London.

    One of my exes was a pre Goth death metal chick with relatively short pink hair and that pasty white corpse like makeup in a different, classy lingerie ensemble everyday of the week ( It helped that she worked at Frederick's on Hollywood Blvd).

    If what John Waters is quoted as saying has any weight (and I believe he's spot on) it's that the antisocial movement of the previous decade will be largely found to be insignificant and forgotten because they had no particular and unique fashion sense of their own to remember them by.👋💀

    #tallship #heavy_metal #punk_rock #new_wave #forgotten_Gen #music #fashion #lifestyle

    RE: https://mas.to/users/mythologyandhistory/statuses/117176052087304300

  2. @mythologyandhistory @mjj

    Yes I believe him, dressed up like a member of The Specials (maybe sax 🎷 player?), and those punk rock skateboarder Vans that he's sporting with the suit.

    Even the Sex Pistols were bankrolled merely to showcase their manager Malcolm McLaren's clothing boutique at 430 King's Road in London.

    One of my exes was a pre Goth death metal chick with relatively short pink hair and that pasty white corpse like makeup in a different, classy lingerie ensemble everyday of the week.

    If what John Waters is quoted as saying has any weight (and I believe he's spot on) it's that the antisocial movement of the previous decade will be largely found to be insignificant and forgotten because they had no particular and unique fashion sense of their own to remember them by.👋💀

    #tallship #heavy_metal #punk_rock #new_wave #forgotten_Gen #music #fashion #lifestyle

    RE: https://mas.to/users/mythologyandhistory/statuses/117176052087304300

  3. @tedu

    Yup. And some time ago too, I might add. The ability to take what works so well and complicate it to the point of absurdity never ceases to amaze.

    #Margaret_Hamilton put two men on the moon with 4K of memory. 8K if you're counting the additional RAM on the Columbia's #AGC.

    Well if you ever figure out how to lookup your NIC-HANDLE, as they're officially called (or rather, were), I'm BT-74 👋🤠

    Yeah, that goes back to the days of "Direct Assignment" when #SRI also operated under the auspices of NIC.DDN.MIL.

    Welcome to the club of unhappilly disenfranchised #NIC_handles 😥

    #tallship #Apollo #software_engineer #NIC #NetSol #WHOIS

  4. @adam @silverpill

    Hey Adam :)

    I haven't paid much attention lately (no need, really), but some time ago, specifically with respect to China, a couple of things were already facts of life, even in extremely rural areas, due to government mandate

    1. ) The Wechat app is used to buy candy and cigarettes at the store and access other banking functions (which can be confiscated or suspended) as well as turning in your elementary school homework assignments.
    2. ) Surveillance cameras were so ubiquitous that 95% plus of the population could be identified via facial recognition and located within 10 minutes anywhere in the entire country.

    "make it impossible to interact online without your every move being tied back to your IRL identity by law enforcement"

    Socialist dystopias count this goal among their basic tenants.

    Capitalist market societies highly desire this too, as such is the nature of any government run amok, but also because of commercial pressures.

    "make it impossible to circumvent DRM or ads"

    In the free market economies of the world, commercial interests (in the name of protecting digital rights of producers) apply extreme pressure for governmental regulation to guarantee their collection of monies and force delivery of programmatic consumerism.

    Authoritarian governments will also seek to quantify any consumption of tangible products (enforcing the collection of government revenue and control the freedom of personal movement) and the ability to deliver any messaging/notifications at anytime unabated.

    Desired results being arguably congruent, motivations are divergent in theory, although not necessarily in practice.

    Some company proposes a solution

    The government itself is the genesis for this in socialist authoritarian dystopias.

    In capitalist economies of (to whatever debatable extent) free societies, this is exactly how it works; the classic example being VHS vs Beta, Soundblaster 16 CD & audio vs competing coalitions and extending to Blu-ray, DVD, etc., first the highly coveted "MPC" certification of hardware, with manufacturers eventually coalescing around one market solution that appears to be the most viable regarding adoption by the consumer market.

    This usually, but not always, results in the superior candidates evolving into industry wide adoption - the evolution is slow, can be clumsy, and full of compromise (not unlike FOSS innovation and maturation).

    Authoritarian despotism is much more efficient in choosing, and deploying such technological solutions (but usually not as effective in developing), and can generally be introduced into the target market rather immediately (although it can also be prone to sucking really badly). Failures can be replaced by edict almost immediately, following the development of replacement alternatives, upgrades, or improvements, the decisions for which are much less dependant upon target consumer preference.

    and use this hardware to provide secure attestations of

    For whatever, actually :p

    I always called it the choke-chip, but IIRC the Clinton administration and manufacturer consortiums called it the V-Chip. Perhaps the first foray into what eventually spitballed into DRM, but for reasons stated as being different and a functionally differentiated market as well.

    the tech giants invent a new protocol (I'll call it EvilTP), which is proprietary and a trade secret. It is managed by a consortium which only provides documentation on the protocol to companies that pay a massive licensing fee and sign NDAs.

    Tangent: Okay till now I've interpreted your choke-chip (Evil TP) to be driven by mostly market based pressures. At least primarily so. One could also consider how authoritarian socialist economies might evolve toward your consideration of consumer control & surveillance - in both of these economic models, I would suggest that there are intensely incentivized tendencies to converge toward the same result, irrespective of any stated reasonings (all governments are at their cores, self-serving liars).

    Although the reasonings may differ, the end goal product remains quite similar - with or without admission, or perhaps not even by initial desire of design. It just ends up nearly the same.

    For example, on the following article I cover a bit of the specific chronologies of space exploration between these two distinctly different economic models, and humorously, my take on how effective this convergence ended up.

    https://public.mitra.social/post/018edf1c-91ce-41dd-942a-8ce33d9e28d8

    I'll see if I can't locate the post on the home server where it renders much more prettified as I intended, the images aren't inline in my current client as I would like them to be. I'll try and post that URL as a follow up to this thread. There's a bonus at the very end after I've finished ridiculing the Baran that I think you might appreciate (hint: she's one of my life's superhero inspirations).

    I mean, just look at all that bird guano, those puppies are ready to be rolled out onto the launch pad and fueled up for launch lolz. 👋🤪 🚀

    But I digress.

    You effectively suggest that to avoid antitrust quagmires, this consortium would themselves through strong NDAs, and commiserating with each other as well as throwing juicy bones to the governments of capitalist, market based economies - but no it doesn't have to be that way as I mentioned above with the Wechat App in China. The Industrial surveillance complex isn't tethered to capitalistic or Marxist/Maoist systems with any sort of exclusivity. It's a beast all its own that in one case, brings down the government to bear in fake acquiescence, and in the other, is harnessed from the outset as a weapon against individuals by the government itself, respectively.

    And I don't think that in the first case that you necessarily need to protect proprietary software and manufacturing by agreement (Microsoft shows no one their core code, ever). I think that Faceplant and InstaSpam are great examples of how one might compell the subjugated chattel to capitulate their privacy all too voluntarily. With zeal even! Ah those mighty endorphins that perpetuate and exploit that addictive personality!

    So I'm not discounting what you're cogitating over at all, but I do have a couple of questions.

    This secure attestation can't be sent over ordinary HTTP, or it could be reverse engineered and faked.

    - a.) What about browser based blockchain operations and transactions over non-custodial wallets? You raise some serious alarms over financial integrity in that one aspect alone, and online banking too.
    - b.) Are you suggesting that engaging via browser with one's Peergos account, which is hardened with post quantum encryption and audited, is as insecure as the suggestion of reverse engineering that you posed?

    In the larger scheme of things however, I want to share my apprehensions and concerns for the end point of the conversation itself. I'm happy in a kornshell via an SSH session on my old 3270 PC-AT box with a burnt amberchrome monitor and an 8 bit NE-1000 ISA NIC - as long as I've got my trusty old authentic IBM tactile click keyboard keeping the neighbors awake, but on any contemporary Intel based workstation, and thanks to the MIT cuck license, we're ALWAYS running Minix too. You can't touch it. You can't feel it. But it's there in the chipset happily doing whatever it's doing, operating under that NDA you brought up (you and I have discussed licensing philosophy before).

    In furtherance of your concerns over blocking free Internet commerce, here's how one socialist dystopian solution was implemented in Merry Olde England...

    I'm hoping this markdown quoting code works here (copypasta from a previous chat discussion where I consulted Grok for clarifications):

    ### Is Radio Garden Blocked in the UK?
    
    Yes, **Radio Garden** is currently restricted for UK users, limiting access to UK-based radio stations only. This restriction prevents UK listeners from accessing international radio stations through the platform, a change that began in **late September/early October 2022** and has been extended indefinitely.
    
    ### Nature of the Restrictions
    
    The restrictions on Radio Garden in the UK are **geoblocking measures** that prevent users with UK IP addresses from streaming non-UK radio stations. When attempting to access international stations, users see a message stating, **"Stations outside the UK temporarily unavailable"** (noted as early as October 2022). Additionally, most **BBC Radio stations** were removed from the platform, except for the **BBC World Service**. In January 2023, Radio Garden updated its announcement to clarify that these restrictions, initially described as temporary, would continue **indefinitely due to copyright and neighboring rights issues** requiring clarification.
    
    The geoblocking is enforced through the platform’s **API**, specifically via the `https://radio.garden/api/geo` URL, which detects a user’s location and restricts access accordingly. Users have reported workarounds, such as using browser extensions like **uBlock Origin** to block this API or employing **VPNs** to mask their IP address and access international stations.
    

    That's an example of instilling fear into companies to a degree of uncertainty where they express fealty to their Lord and Master. Whether the threat is real or perceived, the net effect is the disenfranchisement of presumably an entire nation of people.

    Hang on, I'mma fro up in my mouf a little bit here 🤮

    Okay better now. I don't need to go into the myriad ways in which a government, or rather, peering points at the behest and direction of government, can choke off any targeted packet flow, but I will mention that patent law is extremely powerful - the type of fear you would want to instill could merely be akin to that of cross-pollination of GMO based corn 🌽 planted in your neighbors field the previous year, the genetics 🧬 of which show up in samples of your harvest this year - oopsies!

    You could literally go to jail in that scenario, although Monsanto would prefer you just breakout your checkbook.

    So I'll sum up a bit coz this wasn't supposed to become a diatribe (apologies)...

    With #FOSS, there is freedom, and I'm not going to suggest that those who exercise their inalienable rights and freedoms won't end up in prison like the Falun Gong in live organ transplant harvesting farms; or Jimmy Lai, who to my knowledge, is still in solitary confinement; or a little old gray haired Londoner lady who some Bobby observed on a sidewalk and invoked England's thought police laws because the cop claims she was praying to her God.

    There will always be those of us who insist upon the personal preference of using almost exclusively FOSS based software, and those of us (the subjugated chattel) that will gladly acquiesce to selling their souls for that tickle of dopamine. The entire problem to be solved, if it can be, is to educate enough people to become the critical mass that categorically rejects being subsumed by the diabolical progenitors of #EvilTP...

    If your corn polin flies into my cornfield it's my fucking polin, bitches!

    Okay hey I went ahead and dug up that article at the source HERE it is

    Enjoy :)

    #tallship #stuffs #DRM #technological_convergence

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  5. I'm often inspired to share my thoughts, expound upon something I've read that sparks that inspiration, or pose a bit of socratric reasoning in discourse. Sometimes we actually edjumacate ourselves by asking the tough questions rhetorically. Sometimes it's even more effective if we share those quests with others. It can be a phrase, a paragraph, or a sentence that ignites that quest for understanding within me, and whether I'm simply working it through it myself for my own sake or a genuine desire to share some kind of enlightenment or wisdom with others, I usually feel better doing it in the public eye at the end of the day when all is said and done.

    There's a bit of a stir in the Fediverse. Darnell offers us some valuable considerations and specifics in the link to his blog post below.

    For me, I think the most interesting part when you read between the lines is, ...

    > This latest move could be a way for Meta to use Threads to thwart any potential ActivityPub powered rivals in the Fediverse (like Pixelfed, Friendica & WordPress).

    Note that nowhere is masto even listed there - it's insignificant. The #ActivityPub powered rivals in the #Fediverse cited are what have been considered for many years the direct corollaries to #InstaSPAM and #Faceplant, respectively, which of course are the exceedingly capable platforms #Pixelfed and #Friendica.

    In all of that, considering that #WordPress is the big game changer here of most recent repute, enjoying a 42% market share of all websites worldwide certainly blows away anything Meta has to offer, but even though it is past the 4th of May, Faceplant and InstaSPAM still do comprise the #phantom_menace flavor of this week.

    - Pixelfed has a very nice interface for browsing images. Unlike InstaSPAM however, there isn't this overwhelming nausea attending user accounts with duck-ass selfie-kisses blown into bacteria laden bathroom mirrors, or the overwhelming shitposting of memes scraped from other non-verbal teenage neanderthals. So yes, there's less traffic, typically, but actual photos of things that are actually important and relevant to the people posting them, and more so, liked and boosted by people who appreciate such sentimentalism or professional art. On the downside, is Pixelfed's relatively lackluster editor that fails to provide the poster with paragraph breaks in the WebUI with any reliability, it's mastocrap-like paltry 500 character limit per post, and a complete lack of formatting capabilities (i.e., Markdown or BBCode, Etc.). Having said that, the 500 character limit is easily remedied in a single entry of a config file, which is a blessing to many who have resorted to using the #A11Y alt-text fields to provide the descriptions and narratives for images uploaded, but the other sophomoric qualities of the editor leave massively huge run on paragraphs for the reader to endure - like this one, for example :p

    Other awesome projects either spawned directly from, or inspired by the success of Pixelfed are the FediDB research database, which although pretty, leaves much to be desired with respect to completeness; Sup, a client/server federated chat app model; Loops, a closed beta service that aims to position itself as a replacement for, and similar to YouTube shorts; and PubKit, a tool service in closed beta at this time that attempts to service the same or similar tests that the production https://funfedi.dev/ resource does.

    - Friendica was once a platform that closely mimicked the look and feel of Faceplant. And then it wasn't, as the Faceplant monoverse continued to evolve in look and feel, and Friendica lagged in what I typically refer to as "Prettiness". Those days are long past, Friendica looks better and better with each and every successive release, and there's an obvious effort on improving the UX for users, making it much more intuitive, and the UI, tending to the "Prettiness" that I do indeed place so much emphasis on.

    Once the original darling of the Fediverse, Friendica is once again at the top of the heap with a few others. This does not include the increasingly marginalized masto brand, as more and more adoptees continue to turn their backs to that has-been flagship.

    After increasingly pervasive betrayals of both the #FOSS and #DeSoc philosophies and advocates for the past couple of years, eventually revealing it's own EEE aspirations by actively conflating it's masto brand and registered trademarks with that of Fediverse. Even worse, overtly engaging in an onboarding scheme that actively funnels new #Fedizens to one masto machine in particular, in grand, deprecated silo fashion, the masto corporation has populated one of the largest monolithic vertical gardens in the Fediverse itself. The sad part is that, being just another twitter clone, it still has no sense of community and offers nearly a million users a single point of failure. Ouch!

    This masto mega-silo problem becomes even less relevant when you visit the Friendica page above, and gloss over the phenomenal feature set and attention given to interoperability with a shopping list of other platforms, protocols, and clients, including:

    RSS/Atom, StatusNet, GNU social, Diaspora, SMTP/IMAP, Bluesky, Tumblr, GNU Social, pump.io, Libertree, Blogger, WordPress, Twidere, AndStatus, Bitlbee, Choqok, Frentcl, Gwibber, Hotot, IdentiCurse, Pidgin/Purple, Mustard, Pino, TTYtter.

    Now, you might note that Twitter/X has walled off its deprecated monolithic garden, but that doesn't mean that the client and other toolsets that work with those APIs don't still work just fine with Friendica. And we're not even stating the obvious here - ActivityPub clients like Husky, Fedilab, and Sengi work just fine with Friendica, including Friendiqa and Relatica - two fine examples among the numerous choices you have for native Friendica apps for Android and desktop.

    For more of an in-depth read on Relatica, here's an article I published a while back

    The second most interesting thing that Darnell mentions, I think, has to do with the verbiage in which he characterizes Existing and traditional Fediverse powered platforms. Rivals. He calls them, "...ActivityPub powered rivals". Hmmmm....

    I do believe that's the first time I've actually heard it put quite like that. But it's true. to be certain, it wasn't, not by a longshot, just a little while ago, but now? Well, it's nothing that we've done here in the Fediverse, except for continue to just ignore what's going on with the #subjugated_chattel that have all but succumbed to the #Sunnyvale_Syndrome, and get on with the good work of building and #dogfooding FOSS. But, ...

    It's got a lot to do with what you might call interlopers, carpetbaggers, snakeoil salesmen, infestation, or maybe just plain old encroachment of aged and abusive #dreadnoughts into the Fediverse that stubbornly adhere to their deprecated, monolithic silo model of privacy farming technologies.

    Hitherto all of these ActivityPub refits and forays into a Privacy mindful and respecting network of social communications systems, people kept using terms like Alternatives, for ActivityPub powered platforms such as the three main platforms mentioned in Darnell's blog article.

    Now, they're being elevated to the rank of Rivals? But we, we, didn't do anything!

    Neither did the GPL'd Linux Kernel - it just continued to do what FOSS does. It doesn't care what thinks it may be in competition with, or what considers it a threat, or rival or yes, REPLACEMENT for things like Faceplant and InstaSPAM.

    Yes, FOSS just lumbers and chugs right along, relatively oblivious to whatever the proprietary, closed source contemporaries think of it - with respect to Linux, It actually entered the jurisdiction of a market dominated by Microsoft, IBM, and a couple of others, was lampooned and ridiculed, until it was considered a Cancer, by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, but this wasn't Microsoft or others encroaching into a space where only Linux and the BSDs resided...

    This time it is different, because it's the other way around, but the end result will be the same. In the meantime, the perceived hostile invader, at the moment, is Zuckerberg's Meta. This isn't an EEE in the works, it's a desperate attempt to reach and hold onto the the coping that lines the deep end of a swimming pool which InstaSPAM and Faceplant must learn to swim in, and yet cannot - in the meantime, until it is able to tread those waters, it is feebly dog-paddling toward the edge where a handhold can be made while it is fitted with water-wings.

    Even though both Tom (everyone's friend) and Eugen are happily traveling around the world snapping photographs and flirting with photography as a hobby, #Mark_Zuckerberg really doesn't wanna be #Myspaced.

    If you don't move, you atrophy.

    But Friendica, WordPress, and Pixelfed? Well, they're just FOSS, and they're just doing what FOSS does - exist, improve, and evolve. independently and irrespective of commercial threats by would be competitors.

    Existing Fediverse platforms continue to onboard new Fedizens hourly, that's not slowing down, and it isn't going to either. Some of these n00bs are straddling the fence until they get their sea legs, existing in both worlds, while others are just cutting ties with the deprecated monolithic silos and jumping into the pool head first.

    This phenomena of adoption and the logarithmic increase in onboarding and the deployment of new Fediverse instances is only going to pick up pace as the masses of users on platforms like #Threads and #Bluesky continue to become aware of the Fediverse, and the freedoms they can enjoy in social communication through leveraging WordPress, Pixelfed, and Friendica (and it goes without saying, all the rest of the wonderful platforms too).

    With a community facade that pretended to hold the reigns of masto having been dropped, leaving a new 501(c)(3) masto corporation in the US steered by the likes of Twitter founders themselves, the steam is running out on that brand, and although Meta, via Threads, is certainly welcome to participate in the #FEP process (they actually are), there's really no foothold with which they can insert a toe and dictate very much at all that the community itself isn't inclined to adopt already, independently and without concern of capture by well funded special interest groups - like the new US masto corp.

    But in closing, let's get back to why all of this doesn't even really matter where existing traditional Fediverse platforms are concerned - or the millions of users actively engaged on those thousands of hubs and instances:

    Because it's FOSS, it evolves organically, and just doesn't care about that kind of stuff, lolz.

    #tallship

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    RE: https://one.darnell.one/users/darnell/statuses/112405069391666443

    @darnell

  6. Don't trust those "little buddy heaters" and their cousins of having CO2 sensors and low #Oxygen cutoffs that their marketing indicates you can bank your life on.

    You can fucking die.

    I used a few of these for several years, when I lived completely off-grid, in the mountain wilderness far from the nearest humans.

    They're really convenient and quick to heat a small area, or anything close to them, in just a few minutes, and you can pick them up at any Target, Walmart, Big 5, Tractor Supply, Etc., for $40 - $50.

    Basically, you warm your environment, sitting on your cot and warming up your feet and toes before turning it off and burrowing into your subarctic bedding. You can leave the pilot going all night so all you need to do is twist and click it on on the morning, but seriously, why bother?

    Sharp (and more importantly, observant) girl in the video - although there's no way to be sure, she just may have saved the lives of everyone in that fricken' tent.

    https://invidious.fdn.fr/shorts/kaSwF2jru3A?si=u8a0HRKlqPxb_A8T&local=true

    #tallship #asphyxiation #camping_safety #CO #Carbon_dioxide

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  7. @andrew

    Just outside of #Rawlins? Would that be #Wamsutter? It's been years since I've been there, even though I've owned the town of #Barrel_Springs since just after high school.

    So, you use a #Fediverse account on a masto server instead of Takahē as your primary? Why?

    Since I wrote that comprehensive article about the project I've checked back a few times, but after the Webapp UI was removed and the development seemed to grind down I've been unsure of it's future or potential. I looked but couldn't find a #Matrix or #XMPP support room or other #FOSS based news channel. Is there a discussion channel other than, or bridged, to your Discord community that is active?

    I'm still thinking of publishing another showcase for #Takahē since it's passed the 0.9.0 milestone, in preparation of the general release (in conjunction with a video and presentation perhaps, on the multi-tenant integration), but a few months ago you were promoting Bluesky and I'd like to get a feel towards where things are headed before a another deep dive.

    All the best and looking forward to hearing back at your convenience :)

    #tallship

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  8. @andrew

    Just outside of #Rawlins? Would that be #Wamsutter? It's been years since I've been there, even though I've owned the town of #Barrel_Springs since just after high school.

    So, you use a #Fediverse account on a masto server instead of Takahē as your primary? Why?

    Since I wrote that comprehensive article about the project I've checked back a few times, but after the Webapp UI was removed and the development seemed to grind down I've been unsure of it's future or potential. I looked but couldn't find a #Matrix or #XMPP support room or other #FOSS based news channel. Is there a discussion channel other than, or bridged, to your Discord community that is active?

    I'm still thinking of publishing another showcase for #Takahē since it's passed the 0.9.0 milestone, in preparation of the general release (in conjunction with a video and presentation perhaps, on the multi-tenant integration), but a few months ago you were promoting Bluesky and I'd like to get a feel towards where things are headed before a another deep dive.

    All the best and looking forward to hearing back at your convenience :)

    #tallship

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  9. @youronlyone @gowin @pinoy @takam

    Wow.

    That had been on my mind for a couple of days, and I finally found it - there's a lot of meanings for it, an etymologically diverse and robust word.

    In the context given, it was pretty much precisely what I thought it meant 👍

    #tallship #Tagalog #rancid #turned #rank #spoiled #panis

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  10. I've been publishing this shit, literally for twenty fricken' years about the #Falun_Gong, and how #Meg_Whitman (when eBay owned Skype) turned over all the Skype communications to the Chinese government so they could hunt them down, kill them, send then to #industrial_rape_farms, and even use the healthy prisoners for forced organ transplant inventory until they're dead.

    As of about 10 years ago, even conservative estimates were that around 80,000 of those Falun Gong had died from being used as live #organ_transplant_stock.

    About 90% of the "sustainable" solar panels sold in the United States are manufactured by #Uighurs in #concentration_camps numbering over a million people - #slaves.

    #China is a #mortal_enemy of the world.

    That is one sick fucking society to allow they're government to engage in those practices.

    https://invidious.fdn.fr/shorts/g6gisNN5FH4&local=true?feature=share

    #tallship #genocide #rape #rape_farms #concentration_camps #industrial_rape_farms



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  11. This is a travesty.

    I'm particularly saddened, and deeply affected, when these types of events occur. #Marine_Mammals, coastal species of birds and #invertebrates are close to my heart, and a big part of the sustainability of life on this planet.

    abcn.ws/2IlxSom

    @starwall_e @chucknorrisfacts

    #whales #dolphins #porpoises #toothed_whales #baleen_whales #oceanography #marine_biology #ecology #extinction #Mammalia #Porifera #Echinodermata #Cnidaria

    #tallship