#epicyon — Public Fediverse posts

@duckerer Нужно быть более-менее на ты с #Linux-терминалом.

Нужен #сервер (домашний или на хостинге: виртуальный или железный). Если #хостинг (что обычно разумнее, чем домашний сервер) и именно #Mastodon, то будет не очень дёшево; AFAIK, #Мастодон требует не меньше 4 гигабайт оперативной памяти.

Помимо Мастодона, есть и другие варианты (обязательна поддержка #ActivityPub): #Pleroma, #Misskey и другие; а если без свободной регистрации, то #snac2 (только для себя) и #Epicyon (для себя и друзей).

Despite this (a limitation that should be relatively easy to fix/change; there are probably more), I'm now actually considering spinning up an experimental personal #Epicyon instance. I think this is the first piece of #Fediverse software that has made me think it might be time to set up my own plaything. It probably won't be “right now” though, but only because I have way too much stuff in my hands at the moment and the last thing I need is experimenting with a new server software.

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So I'm checking out #Epicyon https://libreserver.org/epicyon/ (which I discovered thanks to @atomicpoet), which might be just the kind of AP server I'm looking for. I delved into the code to check how it stores the data and it seems it's going with the “static files” approach over the DB used by basically anything else, and this is pretty much what I was hoping for (I'd be OK with something lightweight like sqlite to cache the metadata for speed, this one seems to use text for that too?)

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@leonieke @meneer why not do a trial run of #Hubzilla or its successor #Streams ? Available in Yunohost, I believe. Nowhere as complicated to admin, and compatible with many protocols, not just ActivityPub.

Or #Epicyon, which is said to be even less complicated.

@sass my usual not-based-on-experience thought is #Epicyon (no database server to run).

@sass Epicyon is a Fediverse server with a static webpage interface, no database in the backend, and additional non-micro-blogging features.
#Epicyon https://epicyon.net

Added support for federated blocks in #Epicyon. With admin or moderator role you can specify blocklist API endpoints containing a list of blocked domains or handles, and those will then be used in addition to the local instance level blocks. So if you had an instance running at each location of an organisation and wanted them to all follow the same blocklist without manual intervention then you could do that.

The blocklist endpoint only needs to be a json list of strings accessible via HTTP GET, so very simple to set up.

☇ Of course, this is a hazardous feature and so you need to have ultimate trust in whoever is maintaining the blocklist. If you fuck up then a malevolent blocklist maintainer could trash your instance, making it unusable.

Im Augenblick "eskaliere" ich voll im #fediverse ...

Eigene Firefish-Instanz aus Mangel an Hoffnung entfernt. Neben #misskey auch #sharkey installiert. Alles läuft da auch nicht perfekt... aber sehr gut.

Aber eine Fallback-Instanz hätte ich dann doch schon gerne. Was tun?

Und nun die "Eskalation":

2 x mit eigener #mastodon Instanz experimentiert. Neee! Bei beiden Installationsversuchen (jeweils auf frischer, "jungfräulicher" Subdomain) hat das meinen Plattenspeicher "aufgefressen". Plötzlich waren statt um die 30% von 150G knapp 80% verbraucht. Und das, obwohl ich im Bereich Caching etc. so ziemlich alles auf "speichersparend" konfiguriert habe.

Also gestern einfach mal #mastodon-glitch ausprobiert, den Mastodon-Fork. Und das hat den Plattenplatz nicht aufgefressen. Super! Nur... die Prozessorlast ging bei vier Kernen gegen 100%! Sidekiq-Prozesse ohne Ende... mit ordentlicher Prozessorlast.

Hmmm... was ist denn mit den einfachen, unbekannten und frischen Projekten?

#GoToSocial z.B. Probiert... echt zu "alpha" und wirklich noch zu unfertig.

Na dann mal was ganz "exotisches": #epicyon
Noch nie gehört? Kein Wunder.
Ist aber was besonderes. Kommt ohne Javascript aus, weshalb es sogar in Konsolenbrowsern nutzbar ist. Basis ist Python. Eigentlich keine schlechten Voraussetzungen. Lief auch recht gut. Aber auch noch sehr, sehr "alpha". Einige Sachen gingen einfach nicht. Hat aber Potential. Ich werde es beobachten.

Heute bin ich dann bei #pleroma gelandet. Bis jetzt bläht es sich weder im Plattenspeicher aus... und die Systemlast ist auch absolut moderat.
Mal schauen, ob das mein "Fallback-Dienst" bleibt. Ansonsten habe ich ja immer noch meine gute, alte Hubzilla-Instanz, die sauber und zuverlässig läuft.

Codename for the next #Epicyon version is "Bounding Bassett"

Prepping for the next release version of #Epicyon. I think it's in pretty good shape, and there have only been incremental changes over the last year.

This type of instance will not be to everyone's taste. It deliberately doesn't scale, has no database and supports only a few user accounts. There is no javascript, and the coding style is intended to be boring, with no trendy or advanced computer science concepts. The code is not clean, and uncle Bob would not approve. But it is maintsinable. The design decisions are for resilience, and continuing to support text mode browsers is quite useful.

@smallcircles
To be fair, we get a sense that many instances are operated by those who are invested in highly questionable endeavours, which make them function similarly to a large corporation.

One of the goals of Fediverse proponents like us is to make setting up secure instances fairly easy, and not too burdensome. We think #Mastodon isn't able to provide such, but with #BloatFE and no javascript, maybe it can.

We wonder how #GNUSocial and I2P-friendly #Epicyon (eg. #LibreServer) might help.

@boris_pohler Warum Mastodon?

Muss eh nicht. Kann ruhig auch #Firefish, #Pixelfed, #Peertube, #Hubzilla, #Misskey, #Foundkey, #Pleroma, #GoToSocial, #Bonfire, #Goldfish, #Friendica, #WriteFreely, #Lemmy, #Kbin, #Plume, #Akkoma, #Epicyon, #GNUSocial, #Hometown, #Smalltown, #Socialhome, #Streams, #Swanye, #Tahake, #Castopod, #Funkwhale, #Owncast, #Gancio, #Mobilizon, #NextCloudSocial, #Inventaire, #BookWyrm oder sonst was im #Fediverse sein.

@notesnook

Thank you for putting out that query - short answer is...

Yes. You definitely have a use case here, but first, being just a little familiar with your product I'd like to welcome you to the #Fediverse even though your arrival coincided with the November Rain phenomenon that was much todo about nothing, and in the end, most Twitugees simply returned there after creating accounts here - I'm glad you stuck around! You're product is FOSS, and this is a #FOSS world here in the Fediverse, so it makes sense, this being your natural home and where people can expect to find you :)

Ever since I decided to ditch the proprietary Evernote, I've been using a #Vim Plugin that uploads my buffer to a Gist in an easy peasy way - it would be really kewl if I had a way to send (encrypted or unencrypted) notes to myself as a Fediverse DM, or share some of them with a select group of others in such a manner - Maybe (if it's textual in nature) actual clips I've saved. The graphics, well, if they are uploaded as a graphic that will work too, and they can even be sent to #Pixelfed accounts (if there is a graphics or movie file).

So, you're concerned about having to setup a centralized server or something that your userbase can be recognized on or something? Perhaps like a relay of sorts? I don't think that's the way to go actually. It sounds like a lot of heartache that might not even surivive beyond the intial proof of concept is rolled out - Spam being just one reason that makes the likelihood of failure a distinct possibility.

Here's what I think you can try doing, and it will alleviate any grandiose plans you may have been kicking around - Keep it in the client. A feature mechanism that either lets you clip and post it as an #ActivityPub NOTE to a user's actual instance (server) where they already have an account - You can collect the user's Fediverse account credentials and use that to post to their own existing account - no additional infrastructure is required on your part.

Those posts can be a single post to oneself (a private Fediverse DM to themselves) or it can include a list of recipients - just like any other post you can make.

This will also afford you the absolute maximum in #Spam_control too! You don't have to accept any registrations obo your Fediverse features - you're merely allowing people with existing Fediverse accounts to enter their credentials into your client and then your users make the decision as to whether they want to use your existing store or their Fediverse account to publish the clips to their stores there.

Since you've been around here for a while now, I'm sure you've realized how severely limited mastodon is when it comes to ways you can exploit the existing capabilities in the Fediverse - I've already mentioned Pixelfed, but there's a lot of other platforms that support HTTP signatures necessary for backfills and e2ee constructs; the support for BBCode and/or Markdown; post containing text with character counts greater than the paltry 500 characters that masto can muster, #LaTEX (actually, only Misskey and Firefish support that at this time AFAIK); local only posts (shared only with those who have accounts on the same instance), and a host of other unsupported features in masopub.

I appreciate that you made the effort to address this as an ActivityPub and Fediverse capability, and not simply, "yet another mastodon branded feature". Especially when mastodon won't be able to take advantage of many of the advanced features you already offer that other more capable Fediverse platforms can make use of :)

Platforms like #Friendica, #Firefish, #Mitra, #Hubzilla, #SocialHome, #Soapbox, #Peertube, Pleroma, #Epicyon, #Castopod, #WriteFreely, #Quanta, #Drupal and even #WordPress - those latter three have potentially, especially ambitious use cases with clips and notes being able to be actually published on platforms already built for long form or 'blobs' to be pushed to them. Hubzilla, #Streams, and Friendica have special features to accommodate your products notes too :)

If you focus on adding support for people to enter their Fediverse account credentials, or multiple accounts like #Takahe and #Fedilab and #Misskey support, Then those are the servers you need right there! The spam problem remains as it is with the particular instances, since they control the new account registrations.

There's also the rapid adoption of #smolweb and single-user focused Fediverse platforms too, such as:

- MicroBlogPub
- Tapir
- Bovine
- And of course, any platform, now matter how heavy or resource intensive can be deployed as a smolweb or single-user instance (even the klunky kludgey mastodon). And speaking of which, there are several popular forks that don't have these limitations that are very popular like #Hometown and #Glitch-soc, Etc.

There may even be some use cases for #Lemmy and #Kbin too, as link/discussion boards too - perhaps posting from a users vault/store to those platforms? There's a lot of different possibilities but ActivityPub can open up a huge market for you while at the same time Fediverse is exposed to large numbers of people who will discover that they too may have a good use case to adopt for themselves a Fediverse account :)

tl;dr: Basically, yes! there's a huge use case for your thoughts there - and if you're reading this on a Mitra, #Pleroma, Soapbox, #Akkoma, Firefish, Friendica, Hubzilla, or Misskey server, you'll see some very pretty formatting in Markdown - if you're reading this on a regular mastodon server (not one of the really good and popular forks), then... not so much - but at least mastodon does degrade Markdown and HTML somewhat gracefully :)

Well I hope that helps and do feel free to reach out to me via my contact methods listed in my profile or in the Fediverse-City Matrix room, and I'm sure that we can get a few of some of the more prominent Fediverse platform devs to round-table with you for some wire framing sessions.

I'm confident that you'll find a lot of support in your endeavor to achieve this initiative.

Well I hope that helps. Enjoy!

#tallship #Notesnook #Federation

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soc.thatone.gay a #gotosocial server from Germany
pub.myrkvi.no a #microblogpub server from Norway
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