#epicyon — Public Fediverse posts

@duckerer Нужно быть более-менее на ты с #Linux-терминалом.

Нужен #сервер (домашний или на хостинге: виртуальный или железный). Если #хостинг (что обычно разумнее, чем домашний сервер) и именно #Mastodon, то будет не очень дёшево; AFAIK, #Мастодон требует не меньше 4 гигабайт оперативной памяти.

Помимо Мастодона, есть и другие варианты (обязательна поддержка #ActivityPub): #Pleroma, #Misskey и другие; а если без свободной регистрации, то #snac2 (только для себя) и #Epicyon (для себя и друзей).

Despite this (a limitation that should be relatively easy to fix/change; there are probably more), I'm now actually considering spinning up an experimental personal #Epicyon instance. I think this is the first piece of #Fediverse software that has made me think it might be time to set up my own plaything. It probably won't be “right now” though, but only because I have way too much stuff in my hands at the moment and the last thing I need is experimenting with a new server software.

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So I'm checking out #Epicyon https://libreserver.org/epicyon/ (which I discovered thanks to @atomicpoet), which might be just the kind of AP server I'm looking for. I delved into the code to check how it stores the data and it seems it's going with the “static files” approach over the DB used by basically anything else, and this is pretty much what I was hoping for (I'd be OK with something lightweight like sqlite to cache the metadata for speed, this one seems to use text for that too?)

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@leonieke @meneer why not do a trial run of #Hubzilla or its successor #Streams ? Available in Yunohost, I believe. Nowhere as complicated to admin, and compatible with many protocols, not just ActivityPub.

Or #Epicyon, which is said to be even less complicated.

@sass my usual not-based-on-experience thought is #Epicyon (no database server to run).

@sass Epicyon is a Fediverse server with a static webpage interface, no database in the backend, and additional non-micro-blogging features.
#Epicyon https://epicyon.net

Added support for federated blocks in #Epicyon. With admin or moderator role you can specify blocklist API endpoints containing a list of blocked domains or handles, and those will then be used in addition to the local instance level blocks. So if you had an instance running at each location of an organisation and wanted them to all follow the same blocklist without manual intervention then you could do that.

The blocklist endpoint only needs to be a json list of strings accessible via HTTP GET, so very simple to set up.

☇ Of course, this is a hazardous feature and so you need to have ultimate trust in whoever is maintaining the blocklist. If you fuck up then a malevolent blocklist maintainer could trash your instance, making it unusable.

Im Augenblick "eskaliere" ich voll im #fediverse ...

Eigene Firefish-Instanz aus Mangel an Hoffnung entfernt. Neben #misskey auch #sharkey installiert. Alles läuft da auch nicht perfekt... aber sehr gut.

Aber eine Fallback-Instanz hätte ich dann doch schon gerne. Was tun?

Und nun die "Eskalation":

2 x mit eigener #mastodon Instanz experimentiert. Neee! Bei beiden Installationsversuchen (jeweils auf frischer, "jungfräulicher" Subdomain) hat das meinen Plattenspeicher "aufgefressen". Plötzlich waren statt um die 30% von 150G knapp 80% verbraucht. Und das, obwohl ich im Bereich Caching etc. so ziemlich alles auf "speichersparend" konfiguriert habe.

Also gestern einfach mal #mastodon-glitch ausprobiert, den Mastodon-Fork. Und das hat den Plattenplatz nicht aufgefressen. Super! Nur... die Prozessorlast ging bei vier Kernen gegen 100%! Sidekiq-Prozesse ohne Ende... mit ordentlicher Prozessorlast.

Hmmm... was ist denn mit den einfachen, unbekannten und frischen Projekten?

#GoToSocial z.B. Probiert... echt zu "alpha" und wirklich noch zu unfertig.

Na dann mal was ganz "exotisches": #epicyon
Noch nie gehört? Kein Wunder.
Ist aber was besonderes. Kommt ohne Javascript aus, weshalb es sogar in Konsolenbrowsern nutzbar ist. Basis ist Python. Eigentlich keine schlechten Voraussetzungen. Lief auch recht gut. Aber auch noch sehr, sehr "alpha". Einige Sachen gingen einfach nicht. Hat aber Potential. Ich werde es beobachten.

Heute bin ich dann bei #pleroma gelandet. Bis jetzt bläht es sich weder im Plattenspeicher aus... und die Systemlast ist auch absolut moderat.
Mal schauen, ob das mein "Fallback-Dienst" bleibt. Ansonsten habe ich ja immer noch meine gute, alte Hubzilla-Instanz, die sauber und zuverlässig läuft.

Codename for the next #Epicyon version is "Bounding Bassett"

Prepping for the next release version of #Epicyon. I think it's in pretty good shape, and there have only been incremental changes over the last year.

This type of instance will not be to everyone's taste. It deliberately doesn't scale, has no database and supports only a few user accounts. There is no javascript, and the coding style is intended to be boring, with no trendy or advanced computer science concepts. The code is not clean, and uncle Bob would not approve. But it is maintsinable. The design decisions are for resilience, and continuing to support text mode browsers is quite useful.

@smallcircles
To be fair, we get a sense that many instances are operated by those who are invested in highly questionable endeavours, which make them function similarly to a large corporation.

One of the goals of Fediverse proponents like us is to make setting up secure instances fairly easy, and not too burdensome. We think #Mastodon isn't able to provide such, but with #BloatFE and no javascript, maybe it can.

We wonder how #GNUSocial and I2P-friendly #Epicyon (eg. #LibreServer) might help.

@boris_pohler Warum Mastodon?

Muss eh nicht. Kann ruhig auch #Firefish, #Pixelfed, #Peertube, #Hubzilla, #Misskey, #Foundkey, #Pleroma, #GoToSocial, #Bonfire, #Goldfish, #Friendica, #WriteFreely, #Lemmy, #Kbin, #Plume, #Akkoma, #Epicyon, #GNUSocial, #Hometown, #Smalltown, #Socialhome, #Streams, #Swanye, #Tahake, #Castopod, #Funkwhale, #Owncast, #Gancio, #Mobilizon, #NextCloudSocial, #Inventaire, #BookWyrm oder sonst was im #Fediverse sein.

@notesnook

Thank you for putting out that query - short answer is...

Yes. You definitely have a use case here, but first, being just a little familiar with your product I'd like to welcome you to the #Fediverse even though your arrival coincided with the November Rain phenomenon that was much todo about nothing, and in the end, most Twitugees simply returned there after creating accounts here - I'm glad you stuck around! You're product is FOSS, and this is a #FOSS world here in the Fediverse, so it makes sense, this being your natural home and where people can expect to find you :)

Ever since I decided to ditch the proprietary Evernote, I've been using a #Vim Plugin that uploads my buffer to a Gist in an easy peasy way - it would be really kewl if I had a way to send (encrypted or unencrypted) notes to myself as a Fediverse DM, or share some of them with a select group of others in such a manner - Maybe (if it's textual in nature) actual clips I've saved. The graphics, well, if they are uploaded as a graphic that will work too, and they can even be sent to #Pixelfed accounts (if there is a graphics or movie file).

So, you're concerned about having to setup a centralized server or something that your userbase can be recognized on or something? Perhaps like a relay of sorts? I don't think that's the way to go actually. It sounds like a lot of heartache that might not even surivive beyond the intial proof of concept is rolled out - Spam being just one reason that makes the likelihood of failure a distinct possibility.

Here's what I think you can try doing, and it will alleviate any grandiose plans you may have been kicking around - Keep it in the client. A feature mechanism that either lets you clip and post it as an #ActivityPub NOTE to a user's actual instance (server) where they already have an account - You can collect the user's Fediverse account credentials and use that to post to their own existing account - no additional infrastructure is required on your part.

Those posts can be a single post to oneself (a private Fediverse DM to themselves) or it can include a list of recipients - just like any other post you can make.

This will also afford you the absolute maximum in #Spam_control too! You don't have to accept any registrations obo your Fediverse features - you're merely allowing people with existing Fediverse accounts to enter their credentials into your client and then your users make the decision as to whether they want to use your existing store or their Fediverse account to publish the clips to their stores there.

Since you've been around here for a while now, I'm sure you've realized how severely limited mastodon is when it comes to ways you can exploit the existing capabilities in the Fediverse - I've already mentioned Pixelfed, but there's a lot of other platforms that support HTTP signatures necessary for backfills and e2ee constructs; the support for BBCode and/or Markdown; post containing text with character counts greater than the paltry 500 characters that masto can muster, #LaTEX (actually, only Misskey and Firefish support that at this time AFAIK); local only posts (shared only with those who have accounts on the same instance), and a host of other unsupported features in masopub.

I appreciate that you made the effort to address this as an ActivityPub and Fediverse capability, and not simply, "yet another mastodon branded feature". Especially when mastodon won't be able to take advantage of many of the advanced features you already offer that other more capable Fediverse platforms can make use of :)

Platforms like #Friendica, #Firefish, #Mitra, #Hubzilla, #SocialHome, #Soapbox, #Peertube, Pleroma, #Epicyon, #Castopod, #WriteFreely, #Quanta, #Drupal and even #WordPress - those latter three have potentially, especially ambitious use cases with clips and notes being able to be actually published on platforms already built for long form or 'blobs' to be pushed to them. Hubzilla, #Streams, and Friendica have special features to accommodate your products notes too :)

If you focus on adding support for people to enter their Fediverse account credentials, or multiple accounts like #Takahe and #Fedilab and #Misskey support, Then those are the servers you need right there! The spam problem remains as it is with the particular instances, since they control the new account registrations.

There's also the rapid adoption of #smolweb and single-user focused Fediverse platforms too, such as:

- MicroBlogPub
- Tapir
- Bovine
- And of course, any platform, now matter how heavy or resource intensive can be deployed as a smolweb or single-user instance (even the klunky kludgey mastodon). And speaking of which, there are several popular forks that don't have these limitations that are very popular like #Hometown and #Glitch-soc, Etc.

There may even be some use cases for #Lemmy and #Kbin too, as link/discussion boards too - perhaps posting from a users vault/store to those platforms? There's a lot of different possibilities but ActivityPub can open up a huge market for you while at the same time Fediverse is exposed to large numbers of people who will discover that they too may have a good use case to adopt for themselves a Fediverse account :)

tl;dr: Basically, yes! there's a huge use case for your thoughts there - and if you're reading this on a Mitra, #Pleroma, Soapbox, #Akkoma, Firefish, Friendica, Hubzilla, or Misskey server, you'll see some very pretty formatting in Markdown - if you're reading this on a regular mastodon server (not one of the really good and popular forks), then... not so much - but at least mastodon does degrade Markdown and HTML somewhat gracefully :)

Well I hope that helps and do feel free to reach out to me via my contact methods listed in my profile or in the Fediverse-City Matrix room, and I'm sure that we can get a few of some of the more prominent Fediverse platform devs to round-table with you for some wire framing sessions.

I'm confident that you'll find a lot of support in your endeavor to achieve this initiative.

Well I hope that helps. Enjoy!

#tallship #Notesnook #Federation

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mastodon.van-de-weerd.net a #mastodon server from Germany
m.andadinosaur.com a #mastodon server from Singapore
sinophone.world a #mastodon server from Private
epicyon.d5o.eu a #epicyon server from Czechia
mastodon.schweren.dev a #mastodon server from Austria
bw.hainry.fr a #bookwyrm server from France
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soc.thatone.gay a #gotosocial server from Germany
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videos.2mg.club a #peertube server from Private
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These are essentially #baitAndSwitch attacks.

A few days ago we brainstormed how #I2P might be able to democratise #contentDelivery in #Fediverse, in ways that protect users.

See our #GlutPlug post.

We hope that #Mastodon, #Akkoma, #FireFish and #Epicyon are able to seriously consider how they might do this. App developers for #Tusky and #Fedilab also.

#i2pfs

These are essentially #baitAndSwitch attacks.

A few days ago we brainstormed how #I2P might be able to democratise #contentDelivery in #Fediverse, in ways that protect users.

See our #GlutPlug post.

We hope that #Mastodon, #Akkoma, #FireFish and #Epicyon are able to seriously consider how they might do this. App developers for #Tusky and #Fedilab also.

#i2pfs

@LionsPhil @nicuveo
When we say #BotFarmTimeline we mean the #ExploreTimeline, of course, designed to favour entities with #botFarms backing them.

Mastodon should also restore their javascript-free interface that was recently dropped.

We really need to see other server types like #Epicyon (named after a type of big wild canine), #GNUSocial, and #FireFish gainmore developer interest.

#makeJavascriptOptional

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mastodon.pelica.net a #mastodon server from Private
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@sadiedoreen
Yes, we are happy to see a #fediverse instance embracing #I2P, its called #Epicyon and it doesn't require Javascript.

* All we need are more people running servers! More information is available at libreserver.org

* A mayor candidate in Adelaide ran last year and they use XMPP messaging over I2P!

* Need to #torrent files, #useI2P

* Need a #translation? Find one of I2P's translate sites.

I2P is #theInternet you dreamt of.

@fraying

Hi Derek!

And greetings from the remote mountain regions of #Humboldt where we export the genetics for those 🌺 flowers 🤘💀🤘

Anyway...

I'm trying to your post in which you both misconstrued and misinformed the reader with alarmist, and generally misunderstood narrative.

Specifically, and respectfully:

>***"I wonder if people using mastodon know that, without section 230, no one could legally afford to run a mastodon instance in the US. Section 230 protects what we do here every day. Politicians threatening 230 are threatening free speech on the internet."***

Although we'll go over both sentences, the part that I really take exception to is the first one:

- "I wonder if people using mastodon know that, without section 230, no one could legally afford to run a mastodon instance in the US."

I quoted you twice for emphasis, because what you said is simply NOT TRUE, at all Derek, but who would want to run a single user mastodon server instance anyway?

Okay a select few, but it's not economical to do so - here's why:

It's such #bloatware and a #resource_hog compared to other, more capable and featureful #Fediverse servers, like #Pleroma, #Takahē, #Epicyon, #Akkoma, #Calckey, #Soapbox, #Friendica, #Socialhome, #MicroblogPub, #Misskey, #Smithereen, and the list goes on and on for a while; a veritable laundry list of platforms endowed with more feature rich, more resource and energy conserving footprints.

You could call mastodon the white elephant in the room when it comes to kruft, waste of energy and resources, or lack of the most desired features by it's traditional userbase (although people are nowadays migrating their accounts to these other Fediverse platforms in ever increasing numbers).

Like you, I'm also a staunch proponent of Section 230, as it was originally intended and written - to protect publishers, NOT editors. But most of the conservative agendas to which you refer only seek to remove protections for sites that cross that line between that of #publisher to that of #editor anyway - so as long as you don't interfere with a user's #speech those deprecated silos would have nothing to worry about.

It's the Marxist/Leftist agendas in Congress that you need to worry about - they're proposing complete evisceration of section 230 - and yes, that would jeopardize, probably even put those monolithic deprecated silos out of business for good.

- I see very little that is bad about killing a rabid animal... Or a fox in the henhouse.

But... riddle me this Batman:

What would be so bad about that? It would destroy the surveillance plutocracy and data farming of individuals and their identities by those socalled, "Big-Tech" subjugation engines like #Faceplant, #InstaSPAM, #Reddit, #Twitter, and to a large degree, #Google too... (It won't do anything to stop the likes of Amazon or Apple though wrt their surveillance programs).

All if that, while at the same time encourage the migration of people to a fully decentralized and safer social media network where there are either no platforms (only censor proof protocols), as in #nostr; or #federated #SmallWeb and single user #ActivityPub platform instances; or those #Fediverse platforms that vow not to #molest_users who #publish on those platforms by imposing draconian #editorializing (censorship) upon their users.

Either way you can certainly look at this as a win-win situation for the #individual in #social_media networking. The question really is therefore, "How badly do you wish to punish the privacy disrespecting subjugation farms that comprise that deprecated, monolithic silo space?"

I hope that helps, Enjoy!

#tallship

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@gordoooo_z @PhenomX6 @futurebird @ink8 Whatever Eugen decides at this point it’s irrelevant. He’s pretty much lost his grip over holding the Fediverse brand as secondary to the notion of a fantasy “mastodon network” when he gave that Time Magazine interview two months ago in which the word “Fediverse” appeared not one single time - that caused enormous, untold damages including confusion that remains in the news media and disenfranchisement of large swaths of developers and users alike on not just other platforms, but mastodon instances themselves.

There’s really no such thing as toots anymore, Eugen himself refers to “Posts” and “Quote Posts”, and the submit button in mastodon now says “publish”. The reason #Misskey calls them “notes” is because that’s what they are actually called in #ActivityPub - there are also other types, that other platforms use as well, including “article”, although, instances like #qoto have set the character count for notes at 65535 🙂

It’s been covered in this thread already that Quote Posts are simply beyond the control of mastodon devs, Eugen’s edicts, or local mastodon users or admins, because most other platforms support it and there isn’t anything #mastopub can do about it. In Misskey, users can disallow it, but that only affects other local users, so it’s s moot point (except for silo instances).

There are very few Fediverse platforms that aren’t taking advantage of most things that are possible, for example, #Soapbox now has federated events, and introduced custom emoji reactions like Misskey has, and live chat - Misskey’s traditionally led the way with these federating features with #Calckey going even further.

Some platforms however, intentionally incorporate a leaner set of features; #Smithereen is one example, it doesn’t even sccomodate boosts, which harkens back to #Myspace, #VKontakte (aka, “VK” - not sure I spelled that right), and very early #Faceplant days. #Epicyon has anti-silo capabilities baked in.

#Mitra has #Substack style subscriptions at it’s core. Anyone can subscribe remotely from any Fediverse server instance where the user can receive DMs - and in congruence with privacy concerns that are typically expected for Fediverse implementations, it’s based on #Monero (XMR).

Most platforms also support #Markdown, with Cakckey being perhaps supporting the greatest superset IIRC, including #LaTEX, and #Friendica, being much older than msstodon, has continued to evolve over the past decade and still has support for #BBCode too, and direct links for uploading images for those who prefer to.

I didn’t see any mention of Markdown support when I bothered to look at the mastopub roadmap, yet even on that platform, Quote Posts are all throughout the stream and people boost and reply to them as the time - and, as mentioned earlier, anyone can create a post, simply pasting the link from someone else’s post, and then boost that… Voila! Local #Quote_Post.

mastodon was successful in its arrogance of leveraging some pretty graphics and welcoming verbiage into a brand that Eugen weaponized against virtually all other Fediverse platforms, and now, with all of the fine forks like #Hometown and several newcomers, we’ll soon be seeing hardforking as a result of that hostility.

But not just forks, funding and ambitious development as evidenced by existing and emerging platforms like #Cloudflare’s #Wildebeest, Tumbler, and the very unique, #Django based Takahē Fediverse server that I wrote about here:

https://tallship.writeas.com/takahe-a-new-fediverse-paradigm

Average people are already migrating in larger numbers everyday away from the archaic mastodonian resource hog to other, more capable and promising (and friendlier) platforms elsewhere in the Fediverse that have integrated and fully support #masto_migration, and even ones that don’t (yet) haver that feature.

Unlike other dinosaurs and the eponymous mammal for which Eugen chose the namesake of his #TootSuite product, we shouldn’t expect extinction for his platform, but the apathy and indifference levels are rising, as is the enmity in many sectors of the community for what others perceive as a betrayal (or sellout), and that kind of self-inflicted damage is often difficult to mitigate, with waves of disenchantment reverberating get into the future… Just look at what happened to #SourceForge - it still technically exists, but never recovered after the community betrayal it committed years ago.

And finally, there’s a irony so obvious that’s it’s not even plausible to deny… Eugen subverted the very rudimentary principal that the Fediverse network is ideologically predicated upon - #DeSoc… There’s no question that his goals shifted to that if building a silo for himself, at least to some great degree. Very sad.

An interesting thing about condescending others, you find yourself alone and isolated in an otherwise vibrant, busy world.

#tallship #Takahe #ActivityPub #privacy #community_values #FOSS

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## Making Better Use of Space

### Moving that old white elephant in the room.

There's been a lot of talk lately, and speculation, about the #Fediverse. Yet for the most part, only with respect to a single brand of server platform.

What I find particularly odd about that, is it's a rather lackluster server platform (especially considering the hefty system requirements) with an extremely limited feature list. Mastodon servers have a hard coded default character count limit per post of only 500 characters - more than Twitter, but not often enough to get a complete thought out with a link to somewhere else, or engage in a conversational thread, and certainly nowhere near what you need to post a news article, holiday recipe, tutorial, HowTo, or movie review.

As if a paltry 500 character limit isn't bad enough for this resource hog, virtually every other Fediverse platform provides for sensible , and configurable message lengths with common defaults of 2000, 5000, or more; most support #Markdown, and other ubiquitous text formats like #LaTex or #HTML, and some even have built in #WYSIWYG editors - like #WordPress, #Hubzilla, and #Drupal, with big players like #Imgur and #Tumblr already looking forward to their official Fediverse launches soon.

When those latter two giants arrive on the scene, the world of social networking will truly be interconnected, having achieved critical mass. It will be a revolution, a juggernaut toppling the deprecated, legacy monolithic silos that have so insidiously subverted and subjugated the masses like chattel. But I digress.

Other Fediverse platforms have offered the ability for people to edit their own posts for a long time, some for years, yet mastodon enabled this capability less than a month ago. It lags behind most other Fediverse platforms in several other ways too - groups, marketplaces, federated chat, and several other often requested functions are all but ignored by that platforms' developer while other Fediverse servers enjoy active and ambitious development cycles with new feature releases.

So considering it is so lacking in basic functionality compared to the other more prominent contemporaries, I've assembled a curated list below where you can evaluate and testdrive others for yourself. I've included links to some of the most darling up and coming projects like #Foundkey and #Quanta, that scale to thousands of users, and if you truly want an even smaller, minimalist Fediverse platform I've included #MicroBlogPub too. There's a couple of web tools including databases so you can search for even more platforms, instances, and compare statistics.

Choosing from the list below, you can join existing instances, self-host your own, or even have a professional #hosting_provider do it for you - simply pick a #turnkey provider where in just a couple of clicks your new fully managed Fediverse server will be online in only a minute or two!

There are literally free and privacy respecting Fediverse platforms to replace everything from #Faceplant, #Twatter, #Reddit, #YouTube, #twitch, #InstaSPAM, #Spotify, #Quora and so very much more!

And most are so light on system resources that you can run then on an old laptop or #Raspberry_Pi in your home.

Without further adieu, here's a list of [some of] the most prominent Fediverse server platforms in operation.

https://JoinTheFedi.com

https://Soapbox.Pub

https://Btrf.ly

https://JoinPeerTube.org

https://Mitra.Social

https://Epicyon.net

https://join.misskey.page/en-US/instances

https://akkoma.dev/FoundKeyGang/FoundKey

https://Pixelfed.org

https://Friendi.ca

https://Quanta.Wiki

https://FediDB.org/software

https://WriteFreely.org

https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/apps

https://microblog.pub

https://socialhome.network

https://hubzilla.org

https://owncast.online

https://join-lemmy.org

#tallship #FOSS #Soapbox #Rebased #PeerTube #Mitra #Quanta #Pixelfed #Epicyon #Friendica #WriteFreely #Plume #FunkWhale #MicroBlogPub #Socialhome #GotoSocial #Owncast #LoTide #Lemmy #ActivityPub #Privacy #DeSoc #Federating #Decentralize

I hope that helps! Enjoy!

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@downey

Mastodon IS NOT the #Fediverse!

The #BDFL of that project saying it's is "vital" illustrates the branding philosophy and corporate, ego driven mindset behind so many PRs and requests that have repeatedly been rejected by an overwhelming amount of Fediverse users and developers - just look at how many 👎 "thumbs down" 👎 reactions his post received (that is rarely seen on GitHub).

His language and marketing have been largely successful, confusing newcomers during this Twitter egress (including media coverage) and conflating just what the Fediverse and mastodon are...

People are saying, "I just joined mastodon!" - NO, you did not. You just joined the "Fediverse", by creating an account on a mastodon server. Even newcomers creating accounts on #Friendica and #Pleroma servers are often seen saying this, and it needs to "STOP".

The Fediverse is the network they are joining, and mastodon is just one of a dozen or so viable platforms that people can use to do so.

Truth be told, mastodon is one of the least feature complete Fediverse server platforms, lacking in many of the most basic social networking tools and features that most other popular server platforms introduced ages ago.

It doesn't even render Markdown, have have quotable boosting, only introduced editing of posts a couple of weeks back, and has a hard coded limit of a paltry 500 characters for each post, forcing users to create those confusingly chronologically backward hellthreads that are interspersed and broken up in everyone's feeds, and there's many more deficiencies to list here.

This is why there are so many different forks.

When you create a #PeerTube account, you haven't joined the PeerTube network - you've joined the Fediverse!

When you create a #Pixelfed account, you haven't joined the Pixelfed network - you've joined the Fediverse!

If you create a mastodon account, you haven't joined "mastodon" - you've joined three Fediverse!

There is no such thing as a mastodon network!

It's just one type of Fediverse server platform, among many, like:

#Akkama, Pleroma, Friendica, #Lemmy, #Soapbox, #Misskey, PeerTube, #Mitra, Pixelfed, #MicroPub, #Epicyon, #Quanta, #GoToSicial, #Socialhome, #FunkWhale, and many many other platforms that open up the entire Fediverse to people, allowing them to share and seamlessly communicate with one another.

There are analogs for #Faceplant, #Twitter, #InstaSPAM, #Reddit, and pretty much any type of social networking experience you can find in the deprecated, centralized, legacy silo systems that cannot, and do not wish to interact with each other - which the Fediverse breaks the paradigm of, and empowers everyone engage with each other globally.

Mastodon's marketing has very deliberately been designed to subvert that narrative and replace this reality with its own, self serving commercial interests to the detriment of Fediverse itself.

A wake up call us coming very soon when the #non_FOSS based platforms like #Tumblr and #Imgur join their (millions) substantial user bases to the Fediverse at which time, mastodon itself may find itself drowned out and largely irrelevant due to its very lacking feature set, and ask if the other existing Fediverse platforms providing so much more if what is possible for us all.

This is typically what happens when your development is driven by egocentric, ulterior motives (whether he actually realizes this about himself or not) to benefit yourself personally - just look at how his donations have jumped, even though newcomers are creating accounts on other Fediverse and mastodon servers begging for donations that for the most part are going directly to him.

#tallship #FOSS #ActivityPub #introductions #newcomers

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Looking at #Epicyon website and noticed one of the screenshots contains toots from @Gina. #Fosstodon #SmallFediverse

@graf
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Are you able to access #Epicyon hashtagged posts?

Epicyon is a Pleroma-fork that specialises in being lean, free of Javascript and friendly to the #onionMaximalist out-of-the-box.

#onionRouting #privacy #makeJavaScriptOptional
@Royper

@1iceloops123 @sim
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This time last year we produced a #fediFlyer, for letterboxing or only giving to ppl fed up with the online algorithms dictating what they can see and say online (just ask them, they'll tell you).

Find flyer in our pinned toots or via hashtag, it explains part of why Fedi offers better experiences than dotcons.

We'll be updating it in coming weeks (largely cosmetic, changing #Pleroma mentions to #Epicyon [#TorBrowser/#I2P-friendly etc]) so any feedback will be welcomed.

What do people think of a #tagline for #Fediverse, being:

The real social network.

Good, bad ugly indifferent?

The 'h' in 'the' is the #Epicyon canine.
The 'e' in same = #funkWhale icon.
'E' in real = #mastodon icon.
'A' in same = #peertube (reversed).
'O' in social = #Lemmy mouse.
T in network = improvised #pleroma
W in same = #WriteFreely
O in same = #pixelfed icon

Any better ideas.

#theRealSocialNetwork #streetArt #billboard #carSticker #signage