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@bob So I now understand the problem better. It's all due to "authenticated media", which appears to have been added last year. In Conduit it was added in August. In ElementWeb the authentication depends on something which Tor browser doesn't support for security reasons.

Authenticating media isn't a bad idea, because it prevents spoofing. This also means that reverting to an older version of #ElementWeb has no effect on the problem, because all homeservers now enforce authentication. So effective as of now, #Matrix is unusable with #Tor - that is unless you want text only chat. It might be that I could wangle FluffyChat to run through Tor, but that might not be easy.

So I think what I'll do is leave #ElementWeb in #LibreServer, but on an onion address it will be a text only chat system, like IRC.

@bob So I now understand the problem better. It's all due to "authenticated media", which appears to have been added last year. In Conduit it was added in August. In ElementWeb the authentication depends on something which Tor browser doesn't support for security reasons.

Authenticating media isn't a bad idea, because it prevents spoofing. This also means that reverting to an older version of #ElementWeb has no effect on the problem, because all homeservers now enforce authentication. So effective as of now, #Matrix is unusable with #Tor - that is unless you want text only chat. It might be that I could wangle FluffyChat to run through Tor, but that might not be easy.

So I think what I'll do is leave #ElementWeb in #LibreServer, but on an onion address it will be a text only chat system, like IRC.

Testing #ElementWeb for the next version of #LibreServer, and it looks like the enshitification is beginning to hit.

"Element does not support this browser" (latest Tor browser) "...update your browser to continue".

I kinda always knew that a day would come when this would be too enshitified.

Testing #ElementWeb for the next version of #LibreServer, and it looks like the enshitification is beginning to hit.

"Element does not support this browser" (latest Tor browser) "...update your browser to continue".

I kinda always knew that a day would come when this would be too enshitified.

Updated #ElementWeb version to 1.11.100 in #LibreServer and also added a better media retention policy to Conduit.

Having a web interface is nice, but I am aware that official Matrix projects are venture capital driven and so may be enshitified at some point in future. Most of the time I use FluffyChat as the client, and Conduit is also afaik not an official matrix homeserver so not subject to the same monetization pressures.

@smallcircles
To be fair, we get a sense that many instances are operated by those who are invested in highly questionable endeavours, which make them function similarly to a large corporation.

One of the goals of Fediverse proponents like us is to make setting up secure instances fairly easy, and not too burdensome. We think #Mastodon isn't able to provide such, but with #BloatFE and no javascript, maybe it can.

We wonder how #GNUSocial and I2P-friendly #Epicyon (eg. #LibreServer) might help.

@humanetech
@tbot
@librecomms
@info_activism

a #collaboration for #digitalfreedom?

@bob
@hamishcampbell
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#omn #betheflow #libreserver