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  1. @YellowTurtle Suppose no thing, which is put together is nothing, is absolute, so implies being is not absolute. Why should an idea be synonymous with what being is; why are the values of the ideas’ concept not absolute? When absolute values are presupposed, as in merely affirmed according to beliefs e.g. the geocentric model of the cosmos is true, which is actually false, they do not transcend their actual values if science is objective. By that I mean its claims can be independently verified and are not dependent on the beliefs in them. Ideas, having not just a form but being the exposition of the concept, transcend being e.g. the cosmos is infinite in time and or space as opposed to the values of the reasons for its dimensions are. #Philosophy

    The dialectic is not linear in that its principle is constituted by the comprehension of contradictions, which are real, not transcendental e.g. as there are exceptions to speculative claims on modality that are spurious, as in without proof e.g. it is necessary that there are no absolutes, as nothing is absolute. #Dialectic #Hegel #TheAbsoluteIdea #TheScienceOfLogic

  2. I consider the divide between Continental and Analytical philosophy through my ontological lens after watching an IAI debate. I had already considered this as a use case, so the serendipity was convenient. What I used to call petulance, I now call ontological divide – and petulance. Thoughts?

    brywillis634737.substack.com/p

    #philosophy #continental #analytic #ontology #communication #divide #iykyk #semantics #thinking #power #perspective #dialgue #dialectic #video #iai #blog #substack

  3. I consider the divide between Continental and Analytical philosophy through my ontological lens after watching an IAI debate. I had already considered this as a use case, so the serendipity was convenient. What I used to call petulance, I now call ontological divide – and petulance. Thoughts?

    brywillis634737.substack.com/p

    #philosophy #continental #analytic #ontology #communication #divide #iykyk #semantics #thinking #power #perspective #dialgue #dialectic #video #iai #blog #substack

  4. I consider the divide between Continental and Analytical philosophy through my ontological lens after watching an IAI debate. I had already considered this as a use case, so the serendipity was convenient. What I used to call petulance, I now call ontological divide – and petulance. Thoughts?

    brywillis634737.substack.com/p

    #philosophy #continental #analytic #ontology #communication #divide #iykyk #semantics #thinking #power #perspective #dialgue #dialectic #video #iai #blog #substack

  5. I consider the divide between Continental and Analytical philosophy through my ontological lens after watching an IAI debate. I had already considered this as a use case, so the serendipity was convenient. What I used to call petulance, I now call ontological divide – and petulance. Thoughts?

    brywillis634737.substack.com/p

    #philosophy #continental #analytic #ontology #communication #divide #iykyk #semantics #thinking #power #perspective #dialgue #dialectic #video #iai #blog #substack

  6. I consider the divide between Continental and Analytical philosophy through my ontological lens after watching an IAI debate. I had already considered this as a use case, so the serendipity was convenient. What I used to call petulance, I now call ontological divide – and petulance. Thoughts?

    brywillis634737.substack.com/p

    #philosophy #continental #analytic #ontology #communication #divide #iykyk #semantics #thinking #power #perspective #dialgue #dialectic #video #iai #blog #substack

  7. One of my new superpowers in "debating" (I prefer a dialectic really) is just saying "I don't care." Or "Why is that important?"
    "No matter what society you imagine, people will always try to take advantage of it." => I don't care.
    "But I might miss something on my timeline." => Why is that important?
    Give it a try!
    #debate #discussion #politics #fediverse #leftism #communism #anarchism #anarchocommunism #dialectic #thinking #CriticalThought #utopia #utopias #conversation #NewWaysOfBeing

  8. One of my new superpowers in "debating" (I prefer a dialectic really) is just saying "I don't care." Or "Why is that important?"
    "No matter what society you imagine, people will always try to take advantage of it." => I don't care.
    "But I might miss something on my timeline." => Why is that important?
    Give it a try!
    #debate #discussion #politics #fediverse #leftism #communism #anarchism #anarchocommunism #dialectic #thinking #CriticalThought #utopia #utopias #conversation #NewWaysOfBeing

  9. A quotation from Edna St. Vincent Millay

    With him for a sire and her for a dam,
    What should I be but just what I am?

    Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950) American poet
    Poem (1920-11), “The Singing-Woman from the Wood’s Edge,” Vanity Fair, Vol. 14, No. 3

    More about this quote: wist.info/millay-edna-st-vince…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ednastvincentmillay #combination #dialectic #father #heritage #mother #parentage #parents #self #upbringing

  10. A quotation from Edna St. Vincent Millay

    With him for a sire and her for a dam,
    What should I be but just what I am?

    Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950) American poet
    Poem (1920-11), “The Singing-Woman from the Wood’s Edge,” Vanity Fair, Vol. 14, No. 3

    More about this quote: wist.info/millay-edna-st-vince…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ednastvincentmillay #combination #dialectic #father #heritage #mother #parentage #parents #self #upbringing

  11. A quotation from Edna St. Vincent Millay

    With him for a sire and her for a dam,
    What should I be but just what I am?

    Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950) American poet
    Poem (1920-11), “The Singing-Woman from the Wood’s Edge,” Vanity Fair, Vol. 14, No. 3

    More about this quote: wist.info/millay-edna-st-vince…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ednastvincentmillay #combination #dialectic #father #heritage #mother #parentage #parents #self #upbringing

  12. A quotation from Edna St. Vincent Millay

    With him for a sire and her for a dam,
    What should I be but just what I am?

    Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950) American poet
    Poem (1920-11), “The Singing-Woman from the Wood’s Edge,” Vanity Fair, Vol. 14, No. 3

    More about this quote: wist.info/millay-edna-st-vince…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ednastvincentmillay #combination #dialectic #father #heritage #mother #parentage #parents #self #upbringing

  13. @johncarlosbaez Your blog makes a reference to philosophy, but what has the combinatorics of ‘counting categories’ to do with those that constitute the foundation of their concept if those are reasons, relations, properties, dispositions and forms. I’m thinking of Plato’s principle and realms in relation to Aristotle’s modal oppositions….. #Philosophy #Knowledge #Dialectic #Forms #Categories

  14. @impactology Why not a door with reason and purpose? No matter how great the sense of fear, shame and guilt are, they are just being. The dialectic transcends that, and even it is nothing if not constituted by the foundation of its concept. Partial intelligibility is comprehensive. The Hashtag of the neglected keys: #SenseImpressions #SenseDelusions #feelings #Trauma #psychology #religion #science #HumanLimits #EmotionalIntelligence #being #philosophy #dialectic #knowledge #TheConcept #Uncensored

  15. In einer idealen Sprechsituation sind alle Beteiligten gleichberechtigt und argumentieren rational. Ein respektvoller Dialog oder Multilog fördert die Konsensfindung und führt zu einem fairen Interessenausgleich – ein essenzielles Element politischer Kommunikation.
    #democracy #humanrights #futur #courage #progessive #politics #equality #dialectic #education #bildung #gleichberechtigung #menschenrechte #freiheit #habermas #newhere

  16. Standhaftigkeit ist, wenn es weh tut!
    "Die Grundlage von Demokratie ist ein Selbstverständnis, und zwar: Ich bin hier nicht Besucher. Ich bin nicht Opfer meiner Gesellschaft, nicht Konsument, sondern ich bin Gestalter meiner Gesellschaft, und ich bin verantwortlich für mich und andere."
    Marina Weisband

    #democracy #humanrights #futur #courage #progessive #equality #dialectic #education #bildung #gleichberechtigung #menschenrechte #freiheit

  17. Are you the boss of babies... or are the babies, in fact, bossing you? #dialectic

  18. When I walked into the kitchen this morning, spouse said, "I saved the most expensive Valentine's present for this morning."

    And he handed me an egg.

    We laughed hard, but it was the morbid laughter of dark times, and though I know that "all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us," but I really wish none of this were happening.

    #laughter
    #tears
    #joy
    #despair
    #dialectic
    #dichotomy
    #CurrentEvents
    #eggs
    #FuckingEggs
    #HowDidItComeToThis
    #NeverGiveUp
    #RESIST

  19. I gave a lecture on Hegel's Master-Slave Dialectic to Intro To Philosophy students at Marist College using the "old-school" education at the Culinary Institute of America at the time as an example to illustrate the dynamic

    youtube.com/shorts/rzY_0319qVo
    #Short #Video #Hegel #Dialectic #Philosophy #Master #Slave #Culinary

  20. Here's another short video excerpt from an in-class lecture leading undergraduate non-majors through Hegel's master-slave dialectic in an Intro to Philosophy class.

    youtube.com/shorts/r49yn-WfdzY
    #Hegel #Video #Philosophy #Master #Slave #Dialectic #Work #Labor #Consciousness

  21. Here's a short excerpted from my lecture on Hegel's Master-Slave Dialectic in an Intro to Philosophy class. This one looks at how we get from recognition (Anerkennen) to a struggle to the death between two self-consciousnesses

    youtube.com/shorts/dUsZ6TvlWug
    #Video #Hegel #Recognition #Philosophy #Dialectic

  22. Here's another YouTube short excerpted from my Intro to Philosophy lecture on Hegel's Self-Consciousness section & the Master-Slave dialectic, explaining a bit about what Hegel means by "certainty of self"

    youtube.com/shorts/6igFpplZ9Aw
    #Short #Video #Hegel #Philosophy #Certainty #Self #Dialectic

  23. @6G @escarpment @rameshgupta @benroyce lifelong Democrat here, #Biden2024 , and I would've said that, generally, the left *includes* the views of the right. At least in a #dialectic sense.

    But I no longer have that view.

    If Trump has done one thing, he's upended what the GOP is and stands for. If anything at all.

    At this point, I'd say that my party is decidedly illeberal and that the GOP is totally lost and can only naysay.

  24. A discussion can be an argument/debate, in which one wins and another loses, or a dialectic, in which two or more cooperatively seek the truth of the matter.

    Anatol Rappaport offered a way to transform argument into dialectic:

    leisureguy.ca/2024/05/05/how-t

    #discussion #argument #debate #dialectic

  25. In the core concept video series on Kant's Prolegomena, we now move into the discussion of the "cosmological ideas" in part 3 of the work. We run into four antinomies within the dialectic of pure reason

    youtu.be/5Wz3xpPZlO0
    #Kant #Prolegomena #Video #Dialectic #Cosmological

  26. CW: Metacognitive & Philosophical Discussion about IDENTITY, with rhetorical questioning around a state of awareness similar to (but not restrictive or disconnecting as) DEREALIZATION, DEPERSONALIZATION, DISSOCIATION.

    @erincandescent I love a #nondual perspective to subsume a view which engages the construction of oppositions.

    There are means to transcend the divisions of #dualities of the mind that the humankind oft confuse for a fundamental #reality.

    The opposition of those complimentary parts of any pair appear illusorily within the #aesthetic #judgement(s) of the mind.

    To peer beyond the (dualistic) #constructs by which humankind passes down our relative knowledge is to loose one's bondage to dissonant aversions in the face of cognitive complexity.

    The #dialectic is helpful with this: neither does the sun set that Earth not revolve about it, nor does Earth revolve about the sun that the sun not set, but so sets the sun and also revolves Earth about it.

    When I engage my #metacognition, I understand "recognized reality" to be constructed by an internal #dialogue along an #Identity-#Environment axis that synthesizes a (re-)projection around pardox: awareness includes phenomena only unique to itself (awareness does not commute or permute except locally) whilst embedded within a a common substrate (the universe, not necessarily matter) _and_ the collective of which one is part is extensibly indefinite and conformally diffuse (I.e., at/to what extent is one separated from one's predecessors? From one's mother? From one's morning meal, the sweat [sic] on one's breath, or the roles played out in sleep with which one recalls no association?)

    I used to #joke that "I am g-d, and you are too!" in a trans-solipsistic way, because I see the embedding of our Beings in a cross- and self-referential reality as the #divinity of what #mundaneity might else lead to hopelessness in #nihilism, though that joke usually left my audiences scratching their heads or scoffing at me in #misunderstanding (for surely I am not a primagenitor of all the squiggliness in life, but some of it for those after me and, by internalized self-projection, "All [Most of]" the squiggliness within my 1st Person PoV).

  27. CW: Metacognitive & Philosophical Discussion about IDENTITY, with rhetorical questioning around a state of awareness similar to (but not restrictive or disconnecting as) DEREALIZATION, DEPERSONALIZATION, DISSOCIATION.

    @erincandescent I love a #nondual perspective to subsume a view which engages the construction of oppositions.

    There are means to transcend the divisions of #dualities of the mind that the humankind oft confuse for a fundamental #reality.

    The opposition of those complimentary parts of any pair appear illusorily within the #aesthetic #judgement(s) of the mind.

    To peer beyond the (dualistic) #constructs by which humankind passes down our relative knowledge is to loose one's bondage to dissonant aversions in the face of cognitive complexity.

    The #dialectic is helpful with this: neither does the sun set that Earth not revolve about it, nor does Earth revolve about the sun that the sun not set, but so sets the sun and also revolves Earth about it.

    When I engage my #metacognition, I understand "recognized reality" to be constructed by an internal #dialogue along an #Identity-#Environment axis that synthesizes a (re-)projection around pardox: awareness includes phenomena only unique to itself (awareness does not commute or permute except locally) whilst embedded within a a common substrate (the universe, not necessarily matter) _and_ the collective of which one is part is extensibly indefinite and conformally diffuse (I.e., at/to what extent is one separated from one's predecessors? From one's mother? From one's morning meal, the sweat [sic] on one's breath, or the roles played out in sleep with which one recalls no association?)

    I used to #joke that "I am g-d, and you are too!" in a trans-solipsistic way, because I see the embedding of our Beings in a cross- and self-referential reality as the #divinity of what #mundaneity might else lead to hopelessness in #nihilism, though that joke usually left my audiences scratching their heads or scoffing at me in #misunderstanding (for surely I am not a primagenitor of all the squiggliness in life, but some of it for those after me and, by internalized self-projection, "All [Most of]" the squiggliness within my 1st Person PoV).

  28. CW: Metacognitive & Philosophical Discussion about IDENTITY, with rhetorical questioning around a state of awareness similar to (but not restrictive or disconnecting as) DEREALIZATION, DEPERSONALIZATION, DISSOCIATION.

    @erincandescent I love a #nondual perspective to subsume a view which engages the construction of oppositions.

    There are means to transcend the divisions of #dualities of the mind that the humankind oft confuse for a fundamental #reality.

    The opposition of those complimentary parts of any pair appear illusorily within the #aesthetic #judgement(s) of the mind.

    To peer beyond the (dualistic) #constructs by which humankind passes down our relative knowledge is to loose one's bondage to dissonant aversions in the face of cognitive complexity.

    The #dialectic is helpful with this: neither does the sun set that Earth not revolve about it, nor does Earth revolve about the sun that the sun not set, but so sets the sun and also revolves Earth about it.

    When I engage my #metacognition, I understand "recognized reality" to be constructed by an internal #dialogue along an #Identity-#Environment axis that synthesizes a (re-)projection around pardox: awareness includes phenomena only unique to itself (awareness does not commute or permute except locally) whilst embedded within a a common substrate (the universe, not necessarily matter) _and_ the collective of which one is part is extensibly indefinite and conformally diffuse (I.e., at/to what extent is one separated from one's predecessors? From one's mother? From one's morning meal, the sweat [sic] on one's breath, or the roles played out in sleep with which one recalls no association?)

    I used to #joke that "I am g-d, and you are too!" in a trans-solipsistic way, because I see the embedding of our Beings in a cross- and self-referential reality as the #divinity of what #mundaneity might else lead to hopelessness in #nihilism, though that joke usually left my audiences scratching their heads or scoffing at me in #misunderstanding (for surely I am not a primagenitor of all the squiggliness in life, but some of it for those after me and, by internalized self-projection, "All [Most of]" the squiggliness within my 1st Person PoV).

  29. CW: Metacognitive & Philosophical Discussion about IDENTITY, with rhetorical questioning around a state of awareness similar to (but not restrictive or disconnecting as) DEREALIZATION, DEPERSONALIZATION, DISSOCIATION.

    @erincandescent I love a #nondual perspective to subsume a view which engages the construction of oppositions.

    There are means to transcend the divisions of #dualities of the mind that the humankind oft confuse for a fundamental #reality.

    The opposition of those complimentary parts of any pair appear illusorily within the #aesthetic #judgement(s) of the mind.

    To peer beyond the (dualistic) #constructs by which humankind passes down our relative knowledge is to loose one's bondage to dissonant aversions in the face of cognitive complexity.

    The #dialectic is helpful with this: neither does the sun set that Earth not revolve about it, nor does Earth revolve about the sun that the sun not set, but so sets the sun and also revolves Earth about it.

    When I engage my #metacognition, I understand "recognized reality" to be constructed by an internal #dialogue along an #Identity-#Environment axis that synthesizes a (re-)projection around pardox: awareness includes phenomena only unique to itself (awareness does not commute or permute except locally) whilst embedded within a a common substrate (the universe, not necessarily matter) _and_ the collective of which one is part is extensibly indefinite and conformally diffuse (I.e., at/to what extent is one separated from one's predecessors? From one's mother? From one's morning meal, the sweat [sic] on one's breath, or the roles played out in sleep with which one recalls no association?)

    I used to #joke that "I am g-d, and you are too!" in a trans-solipsistic way, because I see the embedding of our Beings in a cross- and self-referential reality as the #divinity of what #mundaneity might else lead to hopelessness in #nihilism, though that joke usually left my audiences scratching their heads or scoffing at me in #misunderstanding (for surely I am not a primagenitor of all the squiggliness in life, but some of it for those after me and, by internalized self-projection, "All [Most of]" the squiggliness within my 1st Person PoV).

  30. CW: Metacognitive & Philosophical Discussion about IDENTITY, with rhetorical questioning around a state of awareness similar to (but not restrictive or disconnecting as) DEREALIZATION, DEPERSONALIZATION, DISSOCIATION.

    @erincandescent I love a #nondual perspective to subsume a view which engages the construction of oppositions.

    There are means to transcend the divisions of #dualities of the mind that the humankind oft confuse for a fundamental #reality.

    The opposition of those complimentary parts of any pair appear illusorily within the #aesthetic #judgement(s) of the mind.

    To peer beyond the (dualistic) #constructs by which humankind passes down our relative knowledge is to loose one's bondage to dissonant aversions in the face of cognitive complexity.

    The #dialectic is helpful with this: neither does the sun set that Earth not revolve about it, nor does Earth revolve about the sun that the sun not set, but so sets the sun and also revolves Earth about it.

    When I engage my #metacognition, I understand "recognized reality" to be constructed by an internal #dialogue along an #Identity-#Environment axis that synthesizes a (re-)projection around pardox: awareness includes phenomena only unique to itself (awareness does not commute or permute except locally) whilst embedded within a a common substrate (the universe, not necessarily matter) _and_ the collective of which one is part is extensibly indefinite and conformally diffuse (I.e., at/to what extent is one separated from one's predecessors? From one's mother? From one's morning meal, the sweat [sic] on one's breath, or the roles played out in sleep with which one recalls no association?)

    I used to #joke that "I am g-d, and you are too!" in a trans-solipsistic way, because I see the embedding of our Beings in a cross- and self-referential reality as the #divinity of what #mundaneity might else lead to hopelessness in #nihilism, though that joke usually left my audiences scratching their heads or scoffing at me in #misunderstanding (for surely I am not a primagenitor of all the squiggliness in life, but some of it for those after me and, by internalized self-projection, "All [Most of]" the squiggliness within my 1st Person PoV).

  31. "(M)y classmates and I have learned a valuable lesson from this factional squabbling: It doesn’t work. When a society separates into warring camps, no one is left to have a meaningful conversation about fixing the underlying issues.

    "...Young people want to cast tribalism aside and learn how to disagree more calmly, honestly and effectively....."

    #dialectic
    #HealthyConflict
    #bipartisan
    #debate
    #humanity
    #teenagers
    #children
    #education
    #schools

    historians.social/@kawulf/1109

  32. #Reading #recommendation.. I'm just finishing up reading Martin Gurii's "The Revolt of the Public and the Crisis of Authority in the New Millennium" (2014). It is absolutely #prescient.

    It contains the best description of North America's current #political climate that I've seen; he clearly saw, writing a decade ago, exactly how toxic our collective #dialectic would get.

    And more importantly, he saw the #danger it represented to our very democracies.

    Go read it.

    #democracy #strife #politics

  33. A thought in response to RK's comment —

    That strikes me as a problem in cross-paradigm communication — an interaction among communities of interpretation using different analogies to comprehend object situations which may or may not be the same or even compatible.

    Whether it's #Dialectic in #Aristotle's or #Hegel's sense the logic of shifting paradigms is the #Logic of #Abduction.

    #Peirce #Analogy #Paradigm #Anomaly #ParadigmChange
    #Commensurability #Incommensurability #DifferentialLogic

  34. It occurred to me, while reading this, that #Horkheimer & #Adorno's #Dialectic of #Enlightenment might be of a piece with #Wittgenstein's #Tractatus; a set of basically senseless propositions the purpose of which is to make you see their senselessness (TLP 6.54). So, with #Habermas one might then say that H&A do commit a performative contradiction. But that's precisely the point!
    @philosophy

  35. @dlovell That's the #sophists vs. #philosophers debate all over again.

    I realised a few years back (on Google+) that there were two major schools of online discussion. One is #rhetorical, aimed at winning or convincing. The other is #dialectic, interested in understanding or finding truth. The two are almost wholly incompatible.

    Dialectic discussion depends strongly on (I want to say "requires", though I'm not certain of that) a mutual respect. It's quite easiy disrupted.

    Encounters with rhetoricians should be considered at best training on their methods. References to the classsics, such as Aristotle's Sophistical Refutations (the original "Bullshit Arguments Which Must Die"), and Cicero, remain useful. Very rarely can you actually win a concession. Less rarely, learn something.

    @woozle (toot.cat's Supreme Uberwensch) was party to that G+ thread and has a similar interest in epistemic debate.