#selfreference — Public Fediverse posts

🪞Understanding #SelfReference and #Consciousness 🤔

The human #brain as a #selfreferentialsystem: An exciting perspective on consciousness!

📎 https://philosophies.de/index.php/2021/12/05/wie-wirklich-ist-bewusstsein/

📺 https://youtu.be/0LG4gU_jfik

#Neuroscience #Neurophilosophy #Cognition #PhilosophyOfMind #HardProblem #Epistemology #Subjectivity #SelfModel #MindBrainProblem #Reality #BCI #NeuralNetworks #ThomasMetzinger #DavidChalmers #AntonioDamasio #DanielDennett #GerhardRoth #Zoomposium

🪞Understanding #SelfReference and #Consciousness 🤔

The human #brain as a #selfreferentialsystem: An exciting perspective on consciousness!

📎 https://philosophies.de/index.php/2021/12/05/wie-wirklich-ist-bewusstsein/

📺 https://youtu.be/0LG4gU_jfik

#Neuroscience #Neurophilosophy #Cognition #PhilosophyOfMind #HardProblem #Epistemology #Subjectivity #SelfModel #MindBrainProblem #Reality #BCI #NeuralNetworks #ThomasMetzinger #DavidChalmers #AntonioDamasio #DanielDennett #GerhardRoth #Zoomposium

🪞Understanding #SelfReference and #Consciousness 🤔

The human #brain as a #selfreferentialsystem: An exciting perspective on consciousness!

📎 https://philosophies.de/index.php/2021/12/05/wie-wirklich-ist-bewusstsein/

📺 https://youtu.be/0LG4gU_jfik

#Neuroscience #Neurophilosophy #Cognition #PhilosophyOfMind #HardProblem #Epistemology #Subjectivity #SelfModel #MindBrainProblem #Reality #BCI #NeuralNetworks #ThomasMetzinger #DavidChalmers #AntonioDamasio #DanielDennett #GerhardRoth #Zoomposium

🪞Understanding #SelfReference and #Consciousness 🤔

The human #brain as a #selfreferentialsystem: An exciting perspective on consciousness!

📎 https://philosophies.de/index.php/2021/12/05/wie-wirklich-ist-bewusstsein/

📺 https://youtu.be/0LG4gU_jfik

#Neuroscience #Neurophilosophy #Cognition #PhilosophyOfMind #HardProblem #Epistemology #Subjectivity #SelfModel #MindBrainProblem #Reality #BCI #NeuralNetworks #ThomasMetzinger #DavidChalmers #AntonioDamasio #DanielDennett #GerhardRoth #Zoomposium

🪞Understanding #SelfReference and #Consciousness 🤔

The human #brain as a #selfreferentialsystem: An exciting perspective on consciousness!

📎 https://philosophies.de/index.php/2021/12/05/wie-wirklich-ist-bewusstsein/

📺 https://youtu.be/0LG4gU_jfik

#Neuroscience #Neurophilosophy #Cognition #PhilosophyOfMind #HardProblem #Epistemology #Subjectivity #SelfModel #MindBrainProblem #Reality #BCI #NeuralNetworks #ThomasMetzinger #DavidChalmers #AntonioDamasio #DanielDennett #GerhardRoth #Zoomposium

@levelbot Actually they are only at 99%... until we say it's 100%, that is, that makes it 100%, which means it is 99%...

#SelfReference #Stats #Statistics #Godel #Hofstadter #StrangeLoop #MetaMeNoMetas

@levelbot Actually they are only at 99%... until we say it's 100%, that is, that makes it 100%, which means it is 99%...

#SelfReference #Stats #Statistics #Godel #Hofstadter #StrangeLoop #MetaMeNoMetas

@levelbot Actually they are only at 99%... until we say it's 100%, that is, that makes it 100%, which means it is 99%...

#SelfReference #Stats #Statistics #Godel #Hofstadter #StrangeLoop #MetaMeNoMetas

@levelbot Actually they are only at 99%... until we say it's 100%, that is, that makes it 100%, which means it is 99%...

#SelfReference #Stats #Statistics #Godel #Hofstadter #StrangeLoop #MetaMeNoMetas

@levelbot Actually they are only at 99%... until we say it's 100%, that is, that makes it 100%, which means it is 99%...

#SelfReference #Stats #Statistics #Godel #Hofstadter #StrangeLoop #MetaMeNoMetas

@ellane

Uh, is it this time already?

#selfReference

@billseitz Happy to make a connection about connections!

Here's an upcoming paper about how the IETF makes protocols about protocols: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/edit #Internet #protocols #meta #selfreference #strangeloop

@billseitz Happy to make a connection about connections!

Here's an upcoming paper about how the IETF makes protocols about protocols: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/edit #Internet #protocols #meta #selfreference #strangeloop

@billseitz Happy to make a connection about connections!

Here's an upcoming paper about how the IETF makes protocols about protocols: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/edit #Internet #protocols #meta #selfreference #strangeloop

@billseitz Happy to make a connection about connections!

Here's an upcoming paper about how the IETF makes protocols about protocols: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/edit #Internet #protocols #meta #selfreference #strangeloop

@billseitz Happy to make a connection about connections!

Here's an upcoming paper about how the IETF makes protocols about protocols: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgZ86ugijXPUOo_lD3kLfQBPbneecUNzZim1GOgkC1M/edit #Internet #protocols #meta #selfreference #strangeloop

Slow clap. Chef’s kiss. No notes.

Meme perfection.

#meme #humor #dialectic #foundontheinternet #selfreference

No? Maybe #RNA would be better:

GA GAUU GACUAUU

Now we can write a recursive self-replicating virus and put it in an actual virus! :D

Talk about self-reference...

#biology #biocomputing #selfreference #recursion #virus #replication #computing #computerscience #programming #programminghumor

I pitched this to my mother but failed to persuade her.

#Nerd
#Chinese
#Selfreference

Fernando Rosas (unfortunately not on Mastodon) asked on bsky:

"Has anyone figured out what exactly is the relation between the ideas of feedback, recurrence, and self-reference?"

A really interesting question.

He pointed to this paper for ideas: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02456
"Self-referential basis of undecidable dynamics: from The Liar Paradox and The Halting Problem to The Edge of Chaos"

I did some desk research and found this cool paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.2141
"Resolving Gödel's Incompleteness Myth: Polynomial Equations and Dynamical Systems for Algebraic Logic"
that argues there is no essential incompleteness in formal reasoning systems if you look closely enough (using a more elaborate formalism based on polynomial equations to represent and evaluate logical proposition).

I wonder if analogous construction could be created for related theorems like the halting problem in computability theory.

#DynamicalSystems #IncompletenessTheorem #PolynomialEquations #HaltingProblem #Undecidability #SelfReference #Recurrence

I finally found time to read Douglas Hofstadter's blisteringly critical essay on large language models. As usual, he makes excellent points, and supports them with precise and well thought out arguments.

It is, then, merely a wonderful bonus that the essay is centered around Hofstadter critiquing an AI which is in turn pretending to be Hofstadter writing about GEB. There are at least two interwoven levels of self-reference here. Bravo!

#AI #SelfReference #HashTag

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/godel-escher-bach-geb-ai/674589/

#JeffreyKaplan - The #LiarParadox - an explanation of the #Paradox from 400 BCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in4u2i9v4vg&ab_channel=JeffreyKaplan

#Philosophy #PhilosophyOfLogic #Logic #Language #Math #Maths #Mathematics #Truth #SelfReference #Completeness #Incompleteness #StarTrek #Kirk #CaptainKirk #Picard #CaptainPicard

My (yummy) dinner tonight involved a self-referential definition of “chicken flavor”… go @OregonFreezeDry !
#recursion #backpacking #selfreference #chickenflavor

A #TuringTest for #FreeWill by #SethLloyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wyJlUUEpSE&ab_channel=FQXi

#Turing #AlanTuring #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #Computing #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Probability #QM #QuantumMechanics #Randomness #UniversalComputer #UniversalTuringMachine #TuringCompleteness #SelfReference #Recursion

#SethLloyd - Theorem of Human #Unpredictability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWemQthcZg&ab_channel=SeriousScience

#Philosophy #Science #PhilosophyOfScience #FreeWill #HumanUnpredictability #Information #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Programming #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Recursion #SelfReference #Goedel #KurtGoedel #Incompleteness #IncompletenessTheorem

@eirikbakke I saw on Twitter you were saying about how Tupper's formula isn't really self-referential. I thought you might like this page: https://jtra.cz/stuff/essays/math-self-reference-smooth/index.html

It turns out that Tupper went on to make a formula that really was self-referential. And then Jakub Trávník made a self-referential formula which uses smooth functions to implement a nice typeface.

#Math #Mathematics #Maths #SelfReference

A #TuringTest for #FreeWill by #SethLloyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wyJlUUEpSE&ab_channel=FQXi

#Turing #AlanTuring #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #Computing #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Probability #QM #QuantumMechanics #Randomness #UniversalComputer #UniversalTuringMachine #TuringCompleteness #SelfReference #Recursion

A #TuringTest for #FreeWill by #SethLloyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wyJlUUEpSE&ab_channel=FQXi

#Turing #AlanTuring #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #Computing #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Probability #QM #QuantumMechanics #Randomness #UniversalComputer #UniversalTuringMachine #TuringCompleteness #SelfReference #Recursion

Fernando Rosas (unfortunately not on Mastodon) asked on bsky:

"Has anyone figured out what exactly is the relation between the ideas of feedback, recurrence, and self-reference?"

A really interesting question.

He pointed to this paper for ideas: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02456
"Self-referential basis of undecidable dynamics: from The Liar Paradox and The Halting Problem to The Edge of Chaos"

I did some desk research and found this cool paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.2141
"Resolving Gödel's Incompleteness Myth: Polynomial Equations and Dynamical Systems for Algebraic Logic"
that argues there is no essential incompleteness in formal reasoning systems if you look closely enough (using a more elaborate formalism based on polynomial equations to represent and evaluate logical proposition).

I wonder if analogous construction could be created for related theorems like the halting problem in computability theory.

#DynamicalSystems #IncompletenessTheorem #PolynomialEquations #HaltingProblem #Undecidability #SelfReference #Recurrence

Fernando Rosas (unfortunately not on Mastodon) asked on bsky:

"Has anyone figured out what exactly is the relation between the ideas of feedback, recurrence, and self-reference?"

A really interesting question.

He pointed to this paper for ideas: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02456
"Self-referential basis of undecidable dynamics: from The Liar Paradox and The Halting Problem to The Edge of Chaos"

I did some desk research and found this cool paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.2141
"Resolving Gödel's Incompleteness Myth: Polynomial Equations and Dynamical Systems for Algebraic Logic"
that argues there is no essential incompleteness in formal reasoning systems if you look closely enough (using a more elaborate formalism based on polynomial equations to represent and evaluate logical proposition).

I wonder if analogous construction could be created for related theorems like the halting problem in computability theory.

#DynamicalSystems #IncompletenessTheorem #PolynomialEquations #HaltingProblem #Undecidability #SelfReference #Recurrence

Fernando Rosas (unfortunately not on Mastodon) asked on bsky:

"Has anyone figured out what exactly is the relation between the ideas of feedback, recurrence, and self-reference?"

A really interesting question.

He pointed to this paper for ideas: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02456
"Self-referential basis of undecidable dynamics: from The Liar Paradox and The Halting Problem to The Edge of Chaos"

I did some desk research and found this cool paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.2141
"Resolving Gödel's Incompleteness Myth: Polynomial Equations and Dynamical Systems for Algebraic Logic"
that argues there is no essential incompleteness in formal reasoning systems if you look closely enough (using a more elaborate formalism based on polynomial equations to represent and evaluate logical proposition).

I wonder if analogous construction could be created for related theorems like the halting problem in computability theory.

#DynamicalSystems #IncompletenessTheorem #PolynomialEquations #HaltingProblem #Undecidability #SelfReference #Recurrence

Fernando Rosas (unfortunately not on Mastodon) asked on bsky:

"Has anyone figured out what exactly is the relation between the ideas of feedback, recurrence, and self-reference?"

A really interesting question.

He pointed to this paper for ideas: https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.02456
"Self-referential basis of undecidable dynamics: from The Liar Paradox and The Halting Problem to The Edge of Chaos"

I did some desk research and found this cool paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.2141
"Resolving Gödel's Incompleteness Myth: Polynomial Equations and Dynamical Systems for Algebraic Logic"
that argues there is no essential incompleteness in formal reasoning systems if you look closely enough (using a more elaborate formalism based on polynomial equations to represent and evaluate logical proposition).

I wonder if analogous construction could be created for related theorems like the halting problem in computability theory.

#DynamicalSystems #IncompletenessTheorem #PolynomialEquations #HaltingProblem #Undecidability #SelfReference #Recurrence

My (yummy) dinner tonight involved a self-referential definition of “chicken flavor”… go @OregonFreezeDry !
#recursion #backpacking #selfreference #chickenflavor

My (yummy) dinner tonight involved a self-referential definition of “chicken flavor”… go @OregonFreezeDry !
#recursion #backpacking #selfreference #chickenflavor

My (yummy) dinner tonight involved a self-referential definition of “chicken flavor”… go @OregonFreezeDry !
#recursion #backpacking #selfreference #chickenflavor

My (yummy) dinner tonight involved a self-referential definition of “chicken flavor”… go @OregonFreezeDry !
#recursion #backpacking #selfreference #chickenflavor

#SethLloyd - Theorem of Human #Unpredictability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWemQthcZg&ab_channel=SeriousScience

#Philosophy #Science #PhilosophyOfScience #FreeWill #HumanUnpredictability #Information #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Programming #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Recursion #SelfReference #Goedel #KurtGoedel #Incompleteness #IncompletenessTheorem

#SethLloyd - Theorem of Human #Unpredictability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWemQthcZg&ab_channel=SeriousScience

#Philosophy #Science #PhilosophyOfScience #FreeWill #HumanUnpredictability #Information #Computability #HaltingProblem #TheHaltingProblem #Programming #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #Recursion #SelfReference #Goedel #KurtGoedel #Incompleteness #IncompletenessTheorem