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  1. A quotation from Olivia Butler

    I wanted to understand the lies that people have to tell themselves when they either quietly or joyfully watch their neighbors ruined, spirited away, killed. Different versions of this horror have happened again and again in history. They’re still happening in places like Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor, wherever one group of people permits its leaders to convince them that for their own protection, for the safety of their families and the security of their country, they must get their enemies, those alien others who until now were their neighbors.

    Octavia Butler (1947-2006) American writer
    Essay (2000-05), “A Few Rules for Predicting the Future,” Essence Magazine

    More about this quote: wist.info/butler-octavia/83955…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #oliviabutler #aliens #demagoguery #enemies #ethniccleansing #genocide #ingroup #leaders #looktheotherway #lying #othering #outgroup #pogrom #propaganda #protection #safety #scapegoat #security #selfdeceit #selfdeception #usvsthem

  2. A quotation from Henry Commager

    Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.

    Henry Steele Commager (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist
    Essay (1947-09), “Who Is Loyal to America?” sec. 3, Harper’s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168

    More about this quote: wist.info/commager-henry-steel…

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  3. A quotation from Henry Commager

    Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.

    Henry Steele Commager (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist
    Essay (1947-09), “Who Is Loyal to America?” sec. 3, Harper’s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168

    More about this quote: wist.info/commager-henry-steel…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #henrycommager #America #civilliberties #civilrights #corruption #demagoguery #democracy #disloyalty #division #firstamendment #freepress #freespeech #freedomofreligion #freedomofspeech #freedomofthepress #injustice #jingoism #justice #loyalty #loyaltyoath #military #patriotism #publicoffice #religiousfreedom #unAmerican #usvsthem #votersuppression #votingrights #war #warmongering

  4. A quotation from Henry Commager

    Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.

    Henry Steele Commager (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist
    Essay (1947-09), “Who Is Loyal to America?” sec. 3, Harper’s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168

    More about this quote: wist.info/commager-henry-steel…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #henrycommager #America #civilliberties #civilrights #corruption #demagoguery #democracy #disloyalty #division #firstamendment #freepress #freespeech #freedomofreligion #freedomofspeech #freedomofthepress #injustice #jingoism #justice #loyalty #loyaltyoath #military #patriotism #publicoffice #religiousfreedom #unAmerican #usvsthem #votersuppression #votingrights #war #warmongering

  5. A quotation from Henry Commager

    Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.

    Henry Steele Commager (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist
    Essay (1947-09), “Who Is Loyal to America?” sec. 3, Harper’s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168

    More about this quote: wist.info/commager-henry-steel…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #henrycommager #America #civilliberties #civilrights #corruption #demagoguery #democracy #disloyalty #division #firstamendment #freepress #freespeech #freedomofreligion #freedomofspeech #freedomofthepress #injustice #jingoism #justice #loyalty #loyaltyoath #military #patriotism #publicoffice #religiousfreedom #unAmerican #usvsthem #votersuppression #votingrights #war #warmongering

  6. A quotation from Henry Commager

    Who are those who are really disloyal? Those who inflame racial hatreds, who sow religious and class dissensions. Those who subvert the Constitution by violating the freedom of the ballot box. Those who make a mockery of majority rule by the use of the filibuster. Those who impair democracy by denying equal educational facilities. Those who frustrate justice by lynch law or by making a farce of jury trials. Those who deny freedom of speech and of the press and of assembly. Those who press for special favors against the interest of the commonwealth. Those who regard public office as a source of private gain. Those who would exalt the military over the civil. Those who for selfish and private purposes stir up national antagonisms and expose the world to the ruin of war.

    Henry Steele Commager (1902-1998) American historian, writer, activist
    Essay (1947-09), “Who Is Loyal to America?” sec. 3, Harper’s Magazine, Vol. 195, No. 1168

    More about this quote: wist.info/commager-henry-steel…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #henrycommager #America #civilliberties #civilrights #corruption #demagoguery #democracy #disloyalty #division #firstamendment #freepress #freespeech #freedomofreligion #freedomofspeech #freedomofthepress #injustice #jingoism #justice #loyalty #loyaltyoath #military #patriotism #publicoffice #religiousfreedom #unAmerican #usvsthem #votersuppression #votingrights #war #warmongering

  7. A quotation from Orwell

    History is thought of largely in nationalist terms, and such things as the Inquisition, the tortures of the Star Chamber, the exploits of the English buccaneers (Sir Francis Drake, for instance, who was given to sinking Spanish prisoners alive), the Reign of Terror, the heroes of the Mutiny blowing hundreds of Indians from the guns, or Cromwell’s soldiers slashing Irishwomen’s faces with razors, become morally neutral or even meritorious when it is felt that they were done in the “right” cause. If one looks back over the past quarter of a century, one finds that there was hardly a single year when atrocity stories were not being reported from some part of the world; and yet in not one single case were these atrocities — in Spain, Russia, China, Hungary, Mexico, Amritsar, Smyrna — believed in and disapproved of by the English intelligentsia as a whole. Whether such deeds were reprehensible, or even whether they happened, was always decided according to political predilection.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/46140/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #atrocity #cause #condemnation #endsandmeans #history #justification #nationalism #ourside #partisanship #politics #takingsides #tribalism #truthiness #usvsthem #warcrime

  8. A quotation from Orwell

    History is thought of largely in nationalist terms, and such things as the Inquisition, the tortures of the Star Chamber, the exploits of the English buccaneers (Sir Francis Drake, for instance, who was given to sinking Spanish prisoners alive), the Reign of Terror, the heroes of the Mutiny blowing hundreds of Indians from the guns, or Cromwell’s soldiers slashing Irishwomen’s faces with razors, become morally neutral or even meritorious when it is felt that they were done in the “right” cause. If one looks back over the past quarter of a century, one finds that there was hardly a single year when atrocity stories were not being reported from some part of the world; and yet in not one single case were these atrocities — in Spain, Russia, China, Hungary, Mexico, Amritsar, Smyrna — believed in and disapproved of by the English intelligentsia as a whole. Whether such deeds were reprehensible, or even whether they happened, was always decided according to political predilection.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/46140/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #atrocity #cause #condemnation #endsandmeans #history #justification #nationalism #ourside #partisanship #politics #takingsides #tribalism #truthiness #usvsthem #warcrime

  9. A quotation from Orwell

    It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power-hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also — since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself — unshakably certain of being in the right.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/45922/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #ingroup #nationalism #nationalist #powerhungry #powerseeking #righteousness #selfdeceit #selfdeception #selfrighteousness #strength #takesides #takingsides #tribalism #usvsthem

  10. A quotation from Orwell

    It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power-hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also — since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself — unshakably certain of being in the right.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/45922/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #ingroup #nationalism #nationalist #powerhungry #powerseeking #righteousness #selfdeceit #selfdeception #selfrighteousness #strength #takesides #takingsides #tribalism #usvsthem

  11. A quotation from George Orwell

    All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/17246/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #hypocrisy #justification #moralrelativism #motivation #nationalism #ourside #perspective #relativism #selfrighteousness #side #tribalism #tribe #usvsthem

  12. A quotation from George Orwell

    By “nationalism” I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled “good” or “bad.” But secondly — and this is much more important — I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/16966/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #civicduty #classification #devotion #duty #evil #good #goodandevil #ingroup #jingoism #moralduty #nation #nationalism #nationality #outgroup #population #racism #stereotype #tribalism #usvsthem

  13. A quotation from George Orwell

    By “nationalism” I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled “good” or “bad.” But secondly — and this is much more important — I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.

    George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
    Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)

    More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/16966/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #civicduty #classification #devotion #duty #evil #good #goodandevil #ingroup #jingoism #moralduty #nation #nationalism #nationality #outgroup #population #racism #stereotype #tribalism #usvsthem

  14. A quotation from James Randi

    The first thing a cult does is tell you everyone else is lying.

    James Randi (1928-2020) Canadian-American stage magician ("The Amazing Randi") and scientific skeptic. [b. Randall James Hamilton Zwinge]
    (Attributed)

    More about this quote: wist.info/randi-james/82442/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #jamesrandi #cult #divinetruth #mistrust #onetrueway #others #outsiders #truebelievers #trust #usvsthem

  15. A quotation from James Randi

    The first thing a cult does is tell you everyone else is lying.

    James Randi (1928-2020) Canadian-American stage magician ("The Amazing Randi") and scientific skeptic. [b. Randall James Hamilton Zwinge]
    (Attributed)

    More about this quote: wist.info/randi-james/82442/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #jamesrandi #cult #divinetruth #mistrust #onetrueway #others #outsiders #truebelievers #trust #usvsthem

  16. A quotation from Mohamad Safa

    Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.

    Mohamad Safa (b. 1991) Lebanese diplomat, politician
    Facebook (2020-08-06)

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/safa-mohamad/77686/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #disunity #division #othering #racism #sectarianism #sexism #tribalism #usvsthem

  17. A quotation from Mohamad Safa

    Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion.

    Mohamad Safa (b. 1991) Lebanese diplomat, politician
    Facebook (2020-08-06)

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/safa-mohamad/77686/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #disunity #division #othering #racism #sectarianism #sexism #tribalism #usvsthem

  18. A quotation from Terry Pratchett

    “You’re not one of us.”
    “I don’t think I’m one of them, either,” said Brutha. “I’m one of mine.”

    Terry Pratchett (1948-2015) English author
    Small Gods [Simony] (1992)

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/pratchett-terry/8119…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #terrypratchett #terrypratchettquote #discworld #ingroup #independence #other #othering #outgroup #usvsthem

  19. A quotation from Kurt Vonnegut

    Fascism was a fairly popular political philosophy which made sacred whatever nation and race the philosopher happened to belong to.

    Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922-2007) American novelist, journalist
    Breakfast of Champions, ch. 17 (1973)

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/vonnegut-kurt-jr/768…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #kurtvonnegut #fascism #ideology #nationalism #politics #racism #selfaggrandizing #selfserving #usvsthem

  20. A quotation from Kurt Vonnegut

    Fascism was a fairly popular political philosophy which made sacred whatever nation and race the philosopher happened to belong to.

    Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (1922-2007) American novelist, journalist
    Breakfast of Champions, ch. 17 (1973)

    Sourcing, notes: wist.info/vonnegut-kurt-jr/768…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #kurtvonnegut #fascism #ideology #nationalism #politics #racism #selfaggrandizing #selfserving #usvsthem

  21. Episode 5.10: The Us vs Them of Community: Ariel & Christina Discuss

    On some very serious level, it’s just not solarpunk if it’s not about a community taking action to make the world a better place. Individualism: it’s just so wrong. It’s fair to say that, not just in solarpunk, but in our cultures, “community” is right up there with “children” as an idea of something inherently good, moral, and wonderful. Community is worshiped as an answer to our problems. But Christina gets a sinking feeling every time she reads a solarpunk story that idolizes community.In this episode, Christina tries to figure out why she’s so suspicious of community and so afraid of being suffocated by the rules, regulations, and norms of community. Join us for our Season 5 closer in which she and Ariel peek at community’s darker sides, like infighting, conformity, the potential for ostracizing people who don’t conform, and the fact that the existence of a community automatically creates a them.

    youtu.be/FpgQh0kPKJY

    #Episode #Season5 #YouTube #SolarpunkPresentsPodcast #podcast #solarpunk #community #UsVsThem #socialism #communism #individualism #conformity #infighting #pedestalization #problematics #CommunityWork #discussion #CommunalLiving #AlternativeCommunity #AlternativeCommuniites #Society #social

  22. Episode 5.10: The Us vs Them of Community: Ariel & Christina Discuss

    On some very serious level, it’s just not solarpunk if it’s not about a community taking action to make the world a better place. Individualism: it’s just so wrong. It’s fair to say that, not just in solarpunk, but in our cultures, “community” is right up there with “children” as an idea of something inherently good, moral, and wonderful. Community is worshiped as an answer to our problems. But Christina gets a sinking feeling every time she reads a solarpunk story that idolizes community.In this episode, Christina tries to figure out why she’s so suspicious of community and so afraid of being suffocated by the rules, regulations, and norms of community. Join us for our Season 5 closer in which she and Ariel peek at community’s darker sides, like infighting, conformity, the potential for ostracizing people who don’t conform, and the fact that the existence of a community automatically creates a them.

    youtu.be/FpgQh0kPKJY

    #Episode #Season5 #YouTube #SolarpunkPresentsPodcast #podcast #solarpunk #community #UsVsThem #socialism #communism #individualism #conformity #infighting #pedestalization #problematics #CommunityWork #discussion #CommunalLiving #AlternativeCommunity #AlternativeCommuniites #Society #social

  23. Episode 5.10: The Us vs Them of Community: Ariel & Christina Discuss

    On some very serious level, it’s just not solarpunk if it’s not about a community taking action to make the world a better place. Individualism: it’s just so wrong. It’s fair to say that, not just in solarpunk, but in our cultures, “community” is right up there with “children” as an idea of something inherently good, moral, and wonderful. Community is worshiped as an answer to our problems. But Christina gets a sinking feeling every time she reads a solarpunk story that idolizes community.In this episode, Christina tries to figure out why she’s so suspicious of community and so afraid of being suffocated by the rules, regulations, and norms of community. Join us for our Season 5 closer in which she and Ariel peek at community’s darker sides, like infighting, conformity, the potential for ostracizing people who don’t conform, and the fact that the existence of a community automatically creates a them.

    youtu.be/FpgQh0kPKJY

    #Episode #Season5 #YouTube #SolarpunkPresentsPodcast #podcast #solarpunk #community #UsVsThem #socialism #communism #individualism #conformity #infighting #pedestalization #problematics #CommunityWork #discussion #CommunalLiving #AlternativeCommunity #AlternativeCommuniites #Society #social

  24. Episode 5.10: The Us vs Them of Community: Ariel & Christina Discuss

    On some very serious level, it’s just not solarpunk if it’s not about a community taking action to make the world a better place. Individualism: it’s just so wrong. It’s fair to say that, not just in solarpunk, but in our cultures, “community” is right up there with “children” as an idea of something inherently good, moral, and wonderful. Community is worshiped as an answer to our problems. But Christina gets a sinking feeling every time she reads a solarpunk story that idolizes community.In this episode, Christina tries to figure out why she’s so suspicious of community and so afraid of being suffocated by the rules, regulations, and norms of community. Join us for our Season 5 closer in which she and Ariel peek at community’s darker sides, like infighting, conformity, the potential for ostracizing people who don’t conform, and the fact that the existence of a community automatically creates a them.

    youtu.be/FpgQh0kPKJY

    #Episode #Season5 #YouTube #SolarpunkPresentsPodcast #podcast #solarpunk #community #UsVsThem #socialism #communism #individualism #conformity #infighting #pedestalization #problematics #CommunityWork #discussion #CommunalLiving #AlternativeCommunity #AlternativeCommuniites #Society #social

  25. Episode 5.10: The Us vs Them of Community: Ariel & Christina Discuss

    On some very serious level, it’s just not solarpunk if it’s not about a community taking action to make the world a better place. Individualism: it’s just so wrong. It’s fair to say that, not just in solarpunk, but in our cultures, “community” is right up there with “children” as an idea of something inherently good, moral, and wonderful. Community is worshiped as an answer to our problems. But Christina gets a sinking feeling every time she reads a solarpunk story that idolizes community.In this episode, Christina tries to figure out why she’s so suspicious of community and so afraid of being suffocated by the rules, regulations, and norms of community. Join us for our Season 5 closer in which she and Ariel peek at community’s darker sides, like infighting, conformity, the potential for ostracizing people who don’t conform, and the fact that the existence of a community automatically creates a them.

    youtu.be/FpgQh0kPKJY

    #Episode #Season5 #YouTube #SolarpunkPresentsPodcast #podcast #solarpunk #community #UsVsThem #socialism #communism #individualism #conformity #infighting #pedestalization #problematics #CommunityWork #discussion #CommunalLiving #AlternativeCommunity #AlternativeCommuniites #Society #social