#toxicidealism — Public Fediverse posts

@Random9 @Mastodon

so the way the real world works is:

if someone does something good, applaud them

if someone does something good, and you reply with demands and derision:

1. you look like an entitled asshole
2. you destroy any desire for cooperation from the target of your endless criticism

this mode of behavior seems to be a big problem with a lot of people

#toxicIdealism kills whatever it is you care about in this world

give them time to do more good

don't jump in with nastiness

@RegGuy

i'm trying to think of a sentiment that would disagree with you

and i see only the fucking #toxicidealism losers who are fine with rising #fascism: they only make excuses to do nothing

or the right wing trolls cosplaying left to work a helplessness #psyop on idiots who call themselves left, but aren't really

because their primary concern is their high holy sense of self-regard: to sit things out and judge from an ivory tower

while their world goes to hell

they don't care

#vote

#MarALago

#Trump's Plutocrat-Bigot-Child Rapist power nexus

Now in a #Democrat ruled state district in #MAGA #Florida

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/24/dems-win-mar-a-lago-gregory-00843333

"They'll steal the vote"

You'll do #prematureCapitulation and not vote?

"Both sides the same"

You're an idiot fine with MAGA #fascism?

"But my obsessive single issue"

You're fine with destroying #transRights, #womensRights, #immigrantRights, etc in #ToxicIdealism?

#Vote

#Primaries and November

#Democrats suck but we can freeze Trump's agenda

' #UnitedNations rejects #USA effort to erase #transWomen: “It stops here”

One advocate accused the #US of being “willing to lie” to “push forward their own #gender ideology onto people in the #UN system”'

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/03/united-nations-rejects-u-s-effort-to-erase-trans-women-it-stops-here/

Americans: #vote

Whiny temper tantrums handing the country to #MAGA because you don't get everything you want?

Fuck your #toxicIdealism

Show up in the #primaries

Show up in the general #election

It. fucking. matters.

#transRights #trans #LGBT #LGBTQIA

i blame nonvoters for the war on #iran

i will wager that the " #genocideJoe" nonsense in 2024 was straight from #likud troll farm

deeply ironic and farcical

toxic idealist morons, obeying #netanyahu, with an easy #socialmedia #psyop, to not #vote, to give netanyahu #trump, as he wanted

that is the value of your pathetic self-serving ineffectual entitled #toxicIdealism

you help #fascism and #war

some of you are so smug blind and arrogant. you can't see how easy it is to manipulate you

#Texas #Primaries too close to call

Heads up:

With certainty over the coming months you will hear from "leftist" accounts

With all the easy signifiers, flags and symbols

Speaking with great high holy outrage

About some vile betrayal the winner, #Talarico or #Crockett, made against the left

It's a #toxicIdealism #psyop

They are right wingers cosplaying right here on #Mastodon

Do not fall for it

Show up in the general #election in November

#VOTE!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/texas-senate-results

#Cornyn #Paxton

@SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help #fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about #shitlibs and #blueMAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help #MAGA if they don't vote

Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless entitled #toxicIdealism whiners

Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

@SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help #fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about #shitlibs and #blueMAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help #MAGA if they don't vote

Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless entitled #toxicIdealism whiners

Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

@SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help #fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about #shitlibs and #blueMAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help #MAGA if they don't vote

Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless entitled #toxicIdealism whiners

Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

@SuneAuken @brouhaha @moz @idahobucks

Write it, post it, send it: a rational approach to voting

Receive in reply: voices whining they don't get perfect, have zero plans, make zero effort, then help #fascism by not voting. Fucking losers. They howl about #shitlibs and #blueMAGA when in fact the only result of their ineffectual purity drama is to help #MAGA if they don't vote

Real life isn't a game of social media scorn, useless entitled #toxicIdealism whiners

Think. Act. Fight. #VOTE!

Consequences

Lovely

As an American I am in raging envy at countries that punish their criminals

#Brazil #SouthKorea #UK

In the #USA we see a convicted #rapist and we elect them or sit things out in whiny entitled #toxicIdealism

I live in a stupid fucking country

Americans:

#Vote

In the #primaries

In the #general

Get your #voterRegistration settled now. Familiarize yourself with the #candidates in your primary. Let's get 50 Mamdanis in there

Maybe we can see this too

#EpsteinFiles

@Wyatt_H_Knott @randahl

this is the way

you fight

you stubbornly resist

it is the only way to defeat this

any voices out there buried in mindless #cynicism and #toxicIdealism and thereby removing themselves from the fight are merely entitled complacent blind losers. not "losers" as in an empty insult, but literally losers of their rights, their freedoms, and eventually their lives

out of nothing but spineless weak #prematureCapitulation in the face of malice

#VOTE motherfuckers

@isaackuo

so many people don't recognize #toxicIdealism is an extremely easy #troll to suppress the #left vote

it's so easy to make a #socialMedia account, throw up some left signifiers in a profile, and troll away with high holy fire and brimstone about perfection

of course, some of these voices are real

but if anyone thinks this sentiment does anything except help #MAGA win, they are a fool

better or worse is the only options we will ever get

forever

choose better, and iterate

Are you loving it?

How do we replicate it across the #USA?

Mob the fuck out of #primaries #primaries2026

Get real #left candidates in the general #election

#Psyop #troll farms will be harping on #toxicIdealism to suppress the #vote on the left. This has been going on for awhile now. Do not listen to such voices

"They're nice but {insert deranged appeal to #perfectionism here} so I'm not voting" is how #MAGA and #geopolitical #trollfarm operates on *you*

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/nyregion/mayor-poll-mamdani-cuomo.html?unlocked_article_code=1.kk8.W-uS.xj_ZeOmF0w2S&smid=url-share

#Mamdani

Are you loving it?

How do we replicate it across the #USA?

Mob the fuck out of #primaries #primaries2026

Get real #left candidates in the general #election

#Psyop #troll farms will be harping on #toxicIdealism to suppress the #vote on the left. This has been going on for awhile now. Do not listen to such voices

"They're nice but {insert deranged appeal to #perfectionism here} so I'm not voting" is how #MAGA and #geopolitical #trollfarm operates on *you*

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/09/nyregion/mayor-poll-mamdani-cuomo.html?unlocked_article_code=1.kk8.W-uS.xj_ZeOmF0w2S&smid=url-share

#Mamdani

@Eetschrijver @GottaLaff

My commiserations to everyone in the thread(s) — apart from the antagonist of course.

Yet another example of #ToxicIdealism (h/t @benroyce)

[PersonA — typically a politician] isn't 100% aligned with my views on [TopicB] so they should be excoriated, even though that’ll be to the advantage of [PersonC — again, typically a politician, but who competes with PersonA and who is objectively much, much worse]

I hope everyone's day gets better

@HamonWry @Strandjunker

@benroyce is probably the best person to comment on this, but I'm not sure it's just that people "couldn't be bothered”. There was an epidemic of #ToxicIdealism spread perhaps primarily by the “G-n-c-d- Joe” brigade leading a non-trivial number to not vote as some sort of masochistic protest.

The left wing must, finally, learn the lesson:
Fight in the primaries, unite in the election

@billyjoebowers @tarheel @Okanogen @trochee @paninid

#toxicIdealism is a sad combination of:

1. alienation from the world

the world is ugly. it's debilitating

but we live in the real world. it has to be faced, no matter how ugly

2. tweaking the ego

no excuse for that. narcissistic self-regard above all else is repellant

also, they frequently cite moral arguments

problem is, morality is about action

if your "morality" argues for inaction, it isn't morality at all

it's ego masturbation

@darwinwoodka

"it's never my fault" is a standard personality trait of #narcissism

that's amongst the many things #MAGA essentially is (besides #bigotry, #ignorance, etc):

politically weaponized narcissism

millions of Americans out there, turned out to #vote by a #psyop campaign in right wing #media and #socialMedia catering to their personality disorders

(the same psyop campaigns work over personality disorders common on the left, such as #toxicIdealism, to suppress the vote on the left)

@bouriquet @draNgNon

north korea has elections too

obviously #usa #democracy is in peril, but that's no reason to capitulate prematurely out of #cynicism

voting is merely a realm of a larger battle

you participate because a #vote shifts the battle lines

"but i want perfection now so i'm not voting" like an airhead makes the struggle harder

you move in a direction, you don't stand on #toxicIdealism

it's not romantic, it's pragmatic

or, don't vote

now we're even more fucked

Another genuinely fine specimen of the "Here's an awful thing about Trump and why you should be angry with somebody else about it"-genre.

Remember the pattern. It is troll action and should be recognized as such.

The direction of the anger is the point.

Update: Now with Alt-text.
#ToxicIdealism #genre #FalseFlagSockPuppets #FalseFriends #AgentsOfDismay

@BeautifulThings @pixelpusher220

many on the left don't see that their own immature #toxicIdealism helps the fascist GOP win

yes, a lot of the whiny "i want perfect or i don't vote" shit on social media is trolls working a psyop on airhead leftist

but the trolls do it because it works

the fucking entitled airheads fall for it

yes, entitled:

if the stakes aren't enough to move you to #vote, however imperfect the choice, you are entitled

#Primaries2026:

show the fuck up, impotent assholes

@CStamp @ZDL @mikelovesbikes @wendinoakland @todymotmot @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

you would think people would notice the extensive #psyop to convince the #left to not vote, via various methods: #learnedHelplessness, #toxicIdealism, premature empty cynical capitulation, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" and other endless bullshit, and understand that what they should do is #vote

@CStamp @ZDL @mikelovesbikes @wendinoakland @todymotmot @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

you would think people would notice the extensive #psyop to convince the #left to not vote, via various methods: #learnedHelplessness, #toxicIdealism, premature empty cynical capitulation, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" and other endless bullshit, and understand that what they should do is #vote

@CStamp @ZDL @mikelovesbikes @wendinoakland @todymotmot @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

you would think people would notice the extensive #psyop to convince the #left to not vote, via various methods: #learnedHelplessness, #toxicIdealism, premature empty cynical capitulation, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" and other endless bullshit, and understand that what they should do is #vote

@CStamp @ZDL @mikelovesbikes @wendinoakland @todymotmot @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

you would think people would notice the extensive #psyop to convince the #left to not vote, via various methods: #learnedHelplessness, #toxicIdealism, premature empty cynical capitulation, "BoTh SiDeS tHe SaMe" and other endless bullshit, and understand that what they should do is #vote

@The_Caretaker @72mz @farbel @MannyDexter @MrBirch @grumble209 @todymotmot @wendinoakland @profdc9 @zakalwe

right, typical #toxicIdealism

"dems kill palestinians, i'll never vote dem"

and thus we get trump and many more dead palestinians

while if you vote dem, you get less dead palestinians

that should matter to you

but no

what matters to you is impossible purity

not the reality you live in

thus you have a big heart

and no fucking brain:

your nonvote, in reality, *harms* palestinians

@bebadefabo @dragonsidedd

Beyond this, though, the original assertion is ill-founded.

In a "first past the post” system such as we have currently, *logically* all a party has to be is "least worst”.

Granted, that's not particularly motivating, but acknowledging that would be better than the #ToxicIdealism @benroyce frequently calls out.

@todymotmot @FranceskaMann @profdc9 @zakalwe @wendinoakland @GutterPoetry

the essential #psychological failure of #toxicIdealism is as follows:

if one can justify a position inside the ivory tower mind palace of one's self-regard, then that is "morality"

no, it's #ego masturbation

true #morality is action, even if it is messy

but they value the purity of themselves, over actually mattering to the world

the real world is too messy, they can't be bothered with messiness

ego over #reality

@grumble209 @todymotmot @wendinoakland @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

you're not the fool

the #democrats suck but they are obviously better than #MAGA

the fools are those who think they have no stake in the outcome

they are entitled people

they believe a #trump presidency won't touch them

they sit out and demand perfection over simply better

people who think like that will never prevail in this world

it's *always* strategy. and via their fragile #toxicIdealism, they lose. we all lose

@todymotmot @profdc9 @GutterPoetry @zakalwe

yeah the spineless cynicism on the #left is nothing but premature capitulation to malice

combined with #purityPolitics and #toxicIdealism, it's self-destruction

you need to fight

always

you need to be positive

always

and you need to accept better rather than whining about not getting perfect

always

@IndieGoblin @RobotDiver @RegGuy

Robot Diver:

would you admit that #trollfarm #psyop from #maga or internationally lies and falsely depicts #AOC's record to suppress the #left #vote?

if you do, please don't buy that manipulation anymore

most importantly:

there is a metric shitton of that lying psyop on AOC coming

absolutely nobody thinks AOC is perfect

there is no hero worship here, that's what maga morons do

understand the game of lies to elicit #toxicIdealism to suppress the vote

@CStamp @RobotDiver @RegGuy

a lot of the #toxicIdealism you see on #mastodon in terms of "they're not perfect, so don't #vote" is the same as a russian #troll putting an american flag on their #twitter handle and goosing #kremlin narratives targeting #maga

fake #leftists on the #fediverse with lazy easy #left bonafides to do their #psyop

they do it, because it unfortunately works

toxic idealism is a real problem with #leftist rhetoric

they suppress the left vote and we get #trump

@RobotDiver @RegGuy

i don't really give a shit about these "they're not perfect" takes

you can find dirt on anyone

overall, #aoc and #bernieSanders are way better than any other credible challenge, and that's what matters

#toxicIdealism is a problem in this world

do not fall for it

and plenty of it is just a #socialMedia #psyop by #maga and #geopolitical #trollfarm to incapacitate your #vote

do not fall for it!

@inthehands @StillIRise1963 @tarheel

why i'm posting this now

#midterms2026 means enough #democrats to stonewall #trump

but as the time draws near you will hear the same old whiny lies:

"both sides the same"

"corruption is everything"

"nothing matters"

"waah waah"

some of it is real #toxicidealism

some of it is #geopolitical #trollfarm #psyop

advertising their fake #leftist bonafides, like an american flag profile on #twitter injecting a #maga #kremlin agenda

people fall for it

last year i had heated arguments with nonvoters

putting aside #geopolitical #trollfarm accounts working a #psyop, some of them were real (that's why they work this psyop: #toxicidealism is real)

the #democrats suck

but the choice matters

you *build* on it

you iterate

you don't expect perfect, then pout when you don't get it

#Midterms2026:

#vote, motherfuckers

@ohmu @Kierkegaanks

some #nonvoters are #rightWing turds too

we see the #toxicIdealism on the #left, the "it's not perfect so i won't #vote" because we're on #mastodon and in other social silos on the left, which amplifies our impression

still, it's a lot of people like that, enough to make a difference

which is why some of these toxic idealism voices we see are just #geopolitical #trollFarm #psyop, cosplaying their fake #leftWing bonafides and working hard to suppress the vote on the left

@RickiTarr

#Midterms2026 #Midterms

Whiny voices soon on #Mastodon:

"both sides the same"

"i oddly focus on only one issue where #Democrats aren't perfect"

"nothing matters, all is #corruption"

and other #toxicIdealism #psyop

these are not organic voices

they will trumpet their #leftism bonafides like Russian #trolls on Twitter with #MAGA flags but they are #agentProvocateur divide and conquer

don't get me wrong:

yes, the Democrats suck

but if you don't see the choice?

oof 🤦

#Vote

New paper out.

What happens when you make a model that includes realistic details about how people discuss ideas and decide how to act upon them? The answer is that with just 3 such elements of realism, one can mathematically explain the emergence of commonly observed situations, such as reaching a consensus and exchanging opinions, but also the separation of ideologies and the appearance of stable polarization. Not only this, but one can also account for phenomena such as peer pressure, cognitive dissonance, tactical voting and toxic idealism ( @benroyce I told you I was going to do it 😀 ) and prove how they affect the final state of the system.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077924015352

#physics #mathematics #networks #bifurcations #opiniondynamics #consensus #polarization #voting #peerpressure #cognitivedissonance #tacticalvoting #toxicidealism

New paper out.

What happens when you make a model that includes realistic details about how people discuss ideas and decide how to act upon them? The answer is that with just 3 such elements of realism, one can mathematically explain the emergence of commonly observed situations, such as reaching a consensus and exchanging opinions, but also the separation of ideologies and the appearance of stable polarization. Not only this, but one can also account for phenomena such as peer pressure, cognitive dissonance, tactical voting and toxic idealism ( @benroyce I told you I was going to do it 😀 ) and prove how they affect the final state of the system.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077924015352

#physics #mathematics #networks #bifurcations #opiniondynamics #consensus #polarization #voting #peerpressure #cognitivedissonance #tacticalvoting #toxicidealism

New paper out.

What happens when you make a model that includes realistic details about how people discuss ideas and decide how to act upon them? The answer is that with just 3 such elements of realism, one can mathematically explain the emergence of commonly observed situations, such as reaching a consensus and exchanging opinions, but also the separation of ideologies and the appearance of stable polarization. Not only this, but one can also account for phenomena such as peer pressure, cognitive dissonance, tactical voting and toxic idealism ( @benroyce I told you I was going to do it 😀 ) and prove how they affect the final state of the system.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077924015352

#physics #mathematics #networks #bifurcations #opiniondynamics #consensus #polarization #voting #peerpressure #cognitivedissonance #tacticalvoting #toxicidealism

New paper out.

What happens when you make a model that includes realistic details about how people discuss ideas and decide how to act upon them? The answer is that with just 3 such elements of realism, one can mathematically explain the emergence of commonly observed situations, such as reaching a consensus and exchanging opinions, but also the separation of ideologies and the appearance of stable polarization. Not only this, but one can also account for phenomena such as peer pressure, cognitive dissonance, tactical voting and toxic idealism ( @benroyce I told you I was going to do it 😀 ) and prove how they affect the final state of the system.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077924015352

#physics #mathematics #networks #bifurcations #opiniondynamics #consensus #polarization #voting #peerpressure #cognitivedissonance #tacticalvoting #toxicidealism

New paper out.

What happens when you make a model that includes realistic details about how people discuss ideas and decide how to act upon them? The answer is that with just 3 such elements of realism, one can mathematically explain the emergence of commonly observed situations, such as reaching a consensus and exchanging opinions, but also the separation of ideologies and the appearance of stable polarization. Not only this, but one can also account for phenomena such as peer pressure, cognitive dissonance, tactical voting and toxic idealism ( @benroyce I told you I was going to do it 😀 ) and prove how they affect the final state of the system.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960077924015352

#physics #mathematics #networks #bifurcations #opiniondynamics #consensus #polarization #voting #peerpressure #cognitivedissonance #tacticalvoting #toxicidealism

@cherylgk @mloxton @chrispomeroyhale @the5thColumnist @KathyLK

#toxicidealism on the #left is as bad a phenomenon as #MAGA on the #right

and equally prone to #manipulation by #geopolitical #trollfarm

with MAGA the manipulation is to champion #bigotry and make the #bigot feel safe

with the left the #psyop game is to demand absolute #ideological #purity in high holy fire and brimstone fury, and use that emotional high to detach, alienate, not #vote

and lose

in reality

which is what matters

@KathyLK @madrobin

i like your post, however:

"I don't know any #idealistic left non-voters"

oof

#toxicidealism is a huge huge problem with people who don't #vote on the #left

so much so that #geopolitical #trollfarm target this unfortunate character aspect just as much as they target #MAGA with #bigotry

@obscurestar @RonSupportsYou @me

i'm not trying to shame

i'm doing withering condemnation, zero appeals

in my view, if #harris and #biden did the impossible and changed #israel's policies and actions, the #toxicidealism gang would merely move the goalposts and invented some other reason not to #vote

their real concern is not #gaza

their real concern is making excuses to abrogate #socialresponsibility

they are useless entitled dead weight

they aren't even on the #left

they're cosplayers

@BenAveling @RonSupportsYou @me

this is true for the #GOP and #geopolitical #psyop #trollfarm who pushed the #toxicidealism angle- the malice that you refer to

they amplified the "#harris doesn't speak forcefully enough on #gaza, so don't #vote"

they understood the true effect: #trump wins

and they laugh all the way to the bank, because, unfortunately, these entitled, privileged morons who feel they can afford to not vote are real #americans, as stupid and as easy to manipulate as #MAGA

@MikeF @CptSuperlative @Huntn00

a lot of them on #socialmedia are #maga or #geopolitical #troll farms

working #psyop angles of #learnedhelplessness, #toxicidealism, mindless #cynicism, impotency driven by emotional overload, etc

to suppress the #vote

unfortunately there are marks out there for the con job

people have issues. we all do

and some can be worked over by anonymous manipulation to be rendered ineffective on the concerns they care about: better positioned as the enemy of perfect

@MikeF @CptSuperlative @Huntn00

a lot of them on #socialmedia are #maga or #geopolitical #troll farms

working #psyop angles of #learnedhelplessness, #toxicidealism, mindless #cynicism, impotency driven by emotional overload, etc

to suppress the #vote

unfortunately there are marks out there for the con job

people have issues. we all do

and some can be worked over by anonymous manipulation to be rendered ineffective on the concerns they care about: better positioned as the enemy of perfect

@MikeF @CptSuperlative @Huntn00

a lot of them on #socialmedia are #maga or #geopolitical #troll farms

working #psyop angles of #learnedhelplessness, #toxicidealism, mindless #cynicism, impotency driven by emotional overload, etc

to suppress the #vote

unfortunately there are marks out there for the con job

people have issues. we all do

and some can be worked over by anonymous manipulation to be rendered ineffective on the concerns they care about: better positioned as the enemy of perfect