#longtermism — Public Fediverse posts

Every now and then someone brings up #EffectiveAltruism, #TESCREAL, #RokosBasilisk, #Rationalism, or some other #Musk related nonsense. I ridicule it, or laugh, and move on. The whole evil god of Roko's Basilisk is so silly it doesn't feel worth writing about. But people started a whole cult over it and killed a bunch of people.

Since then I've been meaning to actually spend time tearing it down. So I think it's time to go kill a god. Fortunately it involves making fun of Elon Musk specifically and all the #AI-pilled #TechBros more generally, so that's nice I guess.

Also, I make the argument that we're all in a simulation that only exists to torture Elon Musk.

https://hexmhell.writeas.com/galileos-basilisk

#NoAI #Singularity #longtermism #Yudkowsky #Zizians

Thiel funds MIRI. Yarvin shapes Vance. Sanders flies to Berkeley. Green films two videos. The extinction frame is a class project. Follow the money.

#AI #FollowTheMoney #MIRI #Longtermism

http://cherokeeschill.com/2026/03/17/the-network-behind-the-moderate-miri-thiel-yarvin-and-the-ai-extinction-myth/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=jetpack_social

@gregorgrau @silberspur @RAlpenstern

Hier wurde zum Longtermism / Langzeitismus bereits gebloggt & intensiv diskutiert. Bei Interesse: Herzliche Einladung! #Longtermism #Langzeitismus #Longtermismus https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/langzeitismus-der-kommende-faschismus-feiert-die-klimakrise-fossiler-wahnsinn-3/

I don't agree with all of this -- I **generally** don't usually fully agree with @taylorlorenz -- but this is a good high-level summary. Worth watching. (Or listening to, the visuals aren't central!)

#tescreal #billionaires #techbros #longtermism #singularity #effectivealtruism #transhumanism #mindchildren #accelerationism #bullshit #BillionairesAreNotYourFriends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dIC287Zz0

"In evangelizing for their view, longtermist luminaries have propagated numerous lies about their ideology and/or community. For example, folks like MacAskill intentionally deceived people (see this article of mine for details) by perpetuating the falsehood that Sam Bankman-Fried — perhaps the most famous longtermist in the world — lived a modest life, when in fact he flew on private jets, lived in a “$35 million crypto frat house,” and owned some $300 million in Bahamian real estate. Pfff.

Because many longtermists, including MacAskill, are basically utilitarians, they don’t believe there’s anything intrinsically wrong with acts like lying — or fraud. If the outcome of spreading lies is overall good, then it would be morally wrong to not lie. Hence, do not trust anything that longtermists tell you about their worldview or community, as moral integrity is not — with history as our witness — something they care much about.

Here are three other insidious lies they’ve spread about their worldview. To my knowledge, this is the first time that anyone has called out such falsehoods:"

https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/three-lies-longtermists-like-to-tell

#LongTermism #Philosophy #HumanExtinction #Religion #Ideology

"you remember 2025?" "wasn't that the year when the richest guy in the world killed a million children because he wants to go to Mars?" #TESCREAL #longtermism #msk

Finally updated my #profile at https://speakerinnen.org :awesome:

Are you looking for a #talk, a #workshop or an #interview on the #socialimpact of #digitalization?

On #ai, #sustainability or #ideologies behind digitalization as #cybernetics, #gamification, #longtermism, or #effectivealtruism?

Why the thoughts and theories of those in power heavily influence societies?

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Finally updated my #profile at https://speakerinnen.org :awesome:

Are you looking for a #talk, a #workshop or an #interview on the #socialimpact of #digitalization?

On #ai, #sustainability or #ideologies behind digitalization as #cybernetics, #gamification, #longtermism, or #effectivealtruism?

Why the thoughts and theories of those in power heavily influence societies?

Are you looking for a #workshop on how to really interest people in #computersecurity?

Contact me.

And #boost if you like

Finally updated my #profile at https://speakerinnen.org :awesome:

Are you looking for a #talk, a #workshop or an #interview on the #socialimpact of #digitalization?

On #ai, #sustainability or #ideologies behind digitalization as #cybernetics, #gamification, #longtermism, or #effectivealtruism?

Why the thoughts and theories of those in power heavily influence societies?

Are you looking for a #workshop on how to really interest people in #computersecurity?

Contact me.

And #boost if you like

Finally updated my #profile at https://speakerinnen.org :awesome:

Are you looking for a #talk, a #workshop or an #interview on the #socialimpact of #digitalization?

On #ai, #sustainability or #ideologies behind digitalization as #cybernetics, #gamification, #longtermism, or #effectivealtruism?

Why the thoughts and theories of those in power heavily influence societies?

Are you looking for a #workshop on how to really interest people in #computersecurity?

Contact me.

And #boost if you like

Finally updated my #profile at https://speakerinnen.org :awesome:

Are you looking for a #talk, a #workshop or an #interview on the #socialimpact of #digitalization?

On #ai, #sustainability or #ideologies behind digitalization as #cybernetics, #gamification, #longtermism, or #effectivealtruism?

Why the thoughts and theories of those in power heavily influence societies?

Are you looking for a #workshop on how to really interest people in #computersecurity?

Contact me.

And #boost if you like

#ideologies like #transhumanism #effectivealtruism #gamification & #longtermism

People like #elonmusk #PeterThiel or believe in this pseudo #religion

That is heavily based on ideas of #eugenics & other #fascist dreams

It is the strong believe in #superhumans & unequal #society

Know your enemies & read or watch some about their #ideologies

@MSchnetker on #longtermism https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-longtermismus-der-geist-des-digitalen-kapitalismus

@xriskology https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/

And some of my videos
https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=Katika

#antifascism

#ideologies like #transhumanism #effectivealtruism #gamification & #longtermism

People like #elonmusk #PeterThiel or believe in this pseudo #religion

That is heavily based on ideas of #eugenics & other #fascist dreams

It is the strong believe in #superhumans & unequal #society

Know your enemies & read or watch some about their #ideologies

@MSchnetker on #longtermism https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-longtermismus-der-geist-des-digitalen-kapitalismus

@xriskology https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/

And some of my videos
https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=Katika

#antifascism

#ideologies like #transhumanism #effectivealtruism #gamification & #longtermism

People like #elonmusk #PeterThiel or believe in this pseudo #religion

That is heavily based on ideas of #eugenics & other #fascist dreams

It is the strong believe in #superhumans & unequal #society

Know your enemies & read or watch some about their #ideologies

@MSchnetker on #longtermism https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-longtermismus-der-geist-des-digitalen-kapitalismus

@xriskology https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/

And some of my videos
https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=Katika

#antifascism

Ja, @_RyekDarkener_ - der sog. #Longtermism ist der alte #Sozialdarwinismus im 21. Jahrhundert. Die französische Soziologie wies auf die SciFi-Bilderwelt der #Superyacht gegenüber der biblischen #Arche hin. Bitte viel & klug darüber schreiben! ✍️🙏 Fan-Grüße! ☺️📚🚀🙌 https://scilogs.spektrum.de/natur-des-glaubens/dualistische-superyacht-vs-monistische-arche-wie-ueberleben-menschen-die-mitweltkrise/

Wenn ihr wissen wollt, warum ich Longtermismus für eine der gefährlichsten Ideologien halte, dann solltet ihr euch diesen Talk ansehen.

Longtermismus – der „Geist“ des digitalen Kapitalismus - media.ccc.de

https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-longtermismus-der-geist-des-digitalen-kapitalismus

#longtermismus #longtermism #38C3

One of the most effective and battle tested forms of #society control is guilt tripping. From the original sin doctrine to diets and self help gurus. They convince you you are guilty of something, they are shaming the natural #human instincts and urges that we are unable to suppress and the more you try the more you fail, entering a vicious cycle.

Whenever anyone says you are #guilty of something through the way you were born, know that you're being manipulated.

And I'm thinking about it because someone said that the #Millard reaction products are causing Alzheimer's. It must surely be the #anti-natalist #lobby trying to make humanity miserable or the tech bro #longtermism worshippers strategy to secure the earth for their descendants by causing misery to everyone else. There's no other explanation.

#RachellPowell - #Philosophy of #Transhumanism & #ArtificialIntelligence (#AI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeXQ4m9BigE

#PhilosophyOfTranshumanism #Humanity #Human #Humans #Life #HumanLife #Descendants #Future #Futurology #Futurism #Risk #Risks #Good #Longtermism #HumanSpecies #Biology #CloserToTruth #RobertKuhn

@Syulang @Seruko @raymondpert

#Evolution #ExtinctionLevelEvents #ELE|s #Philosophie

(2/2)

...was a species on earth less worthy of becoming a "#MultiplanetarySpecies," as #ElonMusk and the other acolytes of #Longtermism (#TESCREAL) aspire to become, it is the human race.

s/:In fact, if #ecocide were a crime punishable by the death penalty, homo sapiens deserves an extinction-level event.

R.I.P. homo sapiens./s

//

#BigTech #SiliconValley #LongTermism #PostHuman #TransHumanism #HumanExtinction: "Most of us would say that human extinction would be rather bad, for one reason or another. But not everyone would agree.

What kind of person prefers human extinction over continued existence? There are a few obvious suspects. One is the “philosophical pessimist” who argues that the world is full of so much human suffering that the nonexistence of our species is better than continued existence. Another is a certain stripe of radical environmentalist who claims that humanity is so destructive to the biosphere, that only our extinction can save what remains of the natural world.

Then there is a third group of people who aren’t bothered by the possibility of human extinction, and indeed some hope to actively bring it about in the coming decades. They represent a more dangerous and extreme form of pro-extinctionist ideology that is fairly widespread within Silicon Valley. In fact, some of the most powerful people in the tech world are members of this group, such as the co-founder of Google, Larry Page." https://www.truthdig.com/articles/team-human-vs-team-posthuman-which-side-are-you-on/

#eacc #transhumanism #longtermism... Never mind them. There is only one reality, and it's the one in which the first #AI/ AGi we need to deploy is NOT #ArtificialIntelligence :

https://mfioretti.substack.com/p/the-first-ai-that-should-get-money

Why Effective Altruism and “Longtermism” Are Toxic Ideologies ❧ Current Affairs
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2023/05/why-effective-altruism-and-longtermism-are-toxic-ideologies

>Intellectual historian Émile P. Torres @xriskology explains how Silicon Valley’s favorite ideas for changing the world for the better actually threaten to make it much, much worse.

#HumanExtinction #Extinction #Ethics #Annihilation #TESCREAL #longtermism #effectivealtruism
@philosophy @ethics

#LongTermism #HumanExtinction #History: "Given all the suffering, pain and destruction produced by humanity, Émile Torres, who is a non-binary philosopher specialising in existential threats, thinks that it would not be a bad thing if humanity ceased to exist.

“The pro-extinctionist view,” they say, “immediately conjures up for a lot of people the image of a homicidal, ghoulish, sadistic maniac, but actually most pro-extinctionists would say that most ways of going extinct would be absolutely unacceptable. But what if everybody decided not to have children? I don’t see anything wrong with that.”

Torres has just written a book called Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation. It runs to more than 500 pages and is an impressive study of a neglected subject. Their basic thesis is that while human extinction is an ancient concern, the rise of Christianity removed it from public discourse. Despite its preoccupation with end times, Armageddon and apocalypse, Christianity emphasised the inevitable salvation and survival of humanity.

Up until now, Torres has been best known through their trenchant pieces for magazines such as Salon, aeon and Foreign Policy as a thorn in the side of the longtermist movement. The new book is a more academic rendering of the arguments they have rehearsed in these publications."

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jul/22/pro-extinctionis-longtermim-effective-altruism-human-extinction-emile-torres

#justdrafts | #linkedlist — A Response from the “Stochastic Parrots” Authors to the Future of Life Institute’s Open Letter

https://betweendrafts.com/justdrafts/2023/04/01/a-response-from-the-stochastic-parrots-authors-to-the-future-of-life-institutes-open-letter/

Gebru, Bender, McMillan-Major, and Mitchell being on fire.

#ai #agi #llm #openletter #stochasticparrots #longtermism

Beyond the applied ML context, I see a lot of connections to the limitations of #utilitarianism, utilitarian aggregation / #populationEthics, #rationality, #longtermism, subjective #Bayesianism, etc. But would anyone read any of that?