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(Justin Webb is upto shit again ...)
Americast
The anti DEI MAGA activist Christopher Rufo
We’ve been speaking to perhaps the most prominent anti DEI MAGA activist, Christopher Rufo. He’s widely credited for convincing Donald Trump to dismantle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programmes within the government, and led the campaign which saw Harvard President Claudine Gay resign from her post in 2024.
He's a controversial figure who has who has spearheaded the right-wing movement against what he describes as "gender ideology" and "woke" institutional policies. He’s also concerned about the future direction of the movement he helped to create and worries about splits within MAGA that have seen influencers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens split with Donald Trump.
In today’s podcast, Justin and Rufo sit down to discuss how successful he thinks the second Trump administration has been, and why Richard Nixon is enjoying a revival among Gen Z Republicans.
HOSTS:
• Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenterGUEST:
• Christopher Rufo, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan InstituteGET IN TOUCH:
• Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB
• Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480
• Email [email protected]
• Or use #AmericastThis episode was made by George Dabby and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Rohan Madison. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app.
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Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below.
Newscast: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl
Top Comment: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm
Radical: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r
The Global Story: https:/ /www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsdDownload
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(Justin Webb is upto shit again ...)
Americast
The anti DEI MAGA activist Christopher Rufo
We’ve been speaking to perhaps the most prominent anti DEI MAGA activist, Christopher Rufo. He’s widely credited for convincing Donald Trump to dismantle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programmes within the government, and led the campaign which saw Harvard President Claudine Gay resign from her post in 2024.
He's a controversial figure who has who has spearheaded the right-wing movement against what he describes as "gender ideology" and "woke" institutional policies. He’s also concerned about the future direction of the movement he helped to create and worries about splits within MAGA that have seen influencers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens split with Donald Trump.
In today’s podcast, Justin and Rufo sit down to discuss how successful he thinks the second Trump administration has been, and why Richard Nixon is enjoying a revival among Gen Z Republicans.
HOSTS:
• Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenterGUEST:
• Christopher Rufo, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan InstituteGET IN TOUCH:
• Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB
• Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480
• Email [email protected]
• Or use #AmericastThis episode was made by George Dabby and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Rohan Madison. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app.
You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers.
US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155
Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below.
Newscast: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl
Top Comment: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm
Radical: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r
The Global Story: https:/ /www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsdDownload
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(Justin Webb is upto shit again ...)
Americast
The anti DEI MAGA activist Christopher Rufo
We’ve been speaking to perhaps the most prominent anti DEI MAGA activist, Christopher Rufo. He’s widely credited for convincing Donald Trump to dismantle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programmes within the government, and led the campaign which saw Harvard President Claudine Gay resign from her post in 2024.
He's a controversial figure who has who has spearheaded the right-wing movement against what he describes as "gender ideology" and "woke" institutional policies. He’s also concerned about the future direction of the movement he helped to create and worries about splits within MAGA that have seen influencers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens split with Donald Trump.
In today’s podcast, Justin and Rufo sit down to discuss how successful he thinks the second Trump administration has been, and why Richard Nixon is enjoying a revival among Gen Z Republicans.
HOSTS:
• Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenterGUEST:
• Christopher Rufo, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan InstituteGET IN TOUCH:
• Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB
• Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480
• Email [email protected]
• Or use #AmericastThis episode was made by George Dabby and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Rohan Madison. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app.
You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers.
US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155
Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below.
Newscast: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl
Top Comment: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm
Radical: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r
The Global Story: https:/ /www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsdDownload
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(Justin Webb is upto shit again ...)
Americast
The anti DEI MAGA activist Christopher Rufo
We’ve been speaking to perhaps the most prominent anti DEI MAGA activist, Christopher Rufo. He’s widely credited for convincing Donald Trump to dismantle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programmes within the government, and led the campaign which saw Harvard President Claudine Gay resign from her post in 2024.
He's a controversial figure who has who has spearheaded the right-wing movement against what he describes as "gender ideology" and "woke" institutional policies. He’s also concerned about the future direction of the movement he helped to create and worries about splits within MAGA that have seen influencers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens split with Donald Trump.
In today’s podcast, Justin and Rufo sit down to discuss how successful he thinks the second Trump administration has been, and why Richard Nixon is enjoying a revival among Gen Z Republicans.
HOSTS:
• Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenterGUEST:
• Christopher Rufo, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan InstituteGET IN TOUCH:
• Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB
• Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480
• Email [email protected]
• Or use #AmericastThis episode was made by George Dabby and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Rohan Madison. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app.
You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers.
US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155
Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below.
Newscast: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl
Top Comment: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm
Radical: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r
The Global Story: https:/ /www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsdDownload
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(Justin Webb is upto shit again ...)
Americast
The anti DEI MAGA activist Christopher Rufo
We’ve been speaking to perhaps the most prominent anti DEI MAGA activist, Christopher Rufo. He’s widely credited for convincing Donald Trump to dismantle Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) programmes within the government, and led the campaign which saw Harvard President Claudine Gay resign from her post in 2024.
He's a controversial figure who has who has spearheaded the right-wing movement against what he describes as "gender ideology" and "woke" institutional policies. He’s also concerned about the future direction of the movement he helped to create and worries about splits within MAGA that have seen influencers like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens split with Donald Trump.
In today’s podcast, Justin and Rufo sit down to discuss how successful he thinks the second Trump administration has been, and why Richard Nixon is enjoying a revival among Gen Z Republicans.
HOSTS:
• Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenterGUEST:
• Christopher Rufo, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan InstituteGET IN TOUCH:
• Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB
• Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480
• Email [email protected]
• Or use #AmericastThis episode was made by George Dabby and Alix Pickles. The technical producer was Rohan Madison. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.
If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app.
You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers.
US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155
Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including Newscast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below.
Newscast: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl
Top Comment: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001mssm
Radical: https:// www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r
The Global Story: https:/ /www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/w13xtvsdDownload
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https://www.europesays.com/people/78967/ California benefit scams make Minnesota fraud look like ‘child’s play,’ Chris Rufo tells ‘Pod Force One’ #california #ChrisRufo #FraudSchemes #GavinNewsom #minnesota #SouthernCalifornia #TheManhattanInstitute
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Blue eyed and blonde Scandinavians are not '"White enough" according to American White Nationalism now....
Nobody will ever be Incel enough to fit in with these Nazi boys, Whiteness inevitably turns in on itself....
#USPOL #USPOLITICS #WhiteNationalism #Minnesota #Minneapolis #Whiteness #ChrisRufo
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Blue eyed and blonde Scandinavians are not '"White enough" according to American White Nationalism now....
Nobody will ever be Incel enough to fit in with these Nazi boys, Whiteness inevitably turns in on itself....
#USPOL #USPOLITICS #WhiteNationalism #Minnesota #Minneapolis #Whiteness #ChrisRufo
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Blue eyed and blonde Scandinavians are not '"White enough" according to American White Nationalism now....
Nobody will ever be Incel enough to fit in with these Nazi boys, Whiteness inevitably turns in on itself....
#USPOL #USPOLITICS #WhiteNationalism #Minnesota #Minneapolis #Whiteness #ChrisRufo
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Blue eyed and blonde Scandinavians are not '"White enough" according to American White Nationalism now....
Nobody will ever be Incel enough to fit in with these Nazi boys, Whiteness inevitably turns in on itself....
#USPOL #USPOLITICS #WhiteNationalism #Minnesota #Minneapolis #Whiteness #ChrisRufo
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Blue eyed and blonde Scandinavians are not '"White enough" according to American White Nationalism now....
Nobody will ever be Incel enough to fit in with these Nazi boys, Whiteness inevitably turns in on itself....
#USPOL #USPOLITICS #WhiteNationalism #Minnesota #Minneapolis #Whiteness #ChrisRufo
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'America demands assimilation': BlazeTV's Christopher Rufo and Bessent slam Somali welfare scam 'open secret' in Minnesota
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'America demands assimilation': BlazeTV's Christopher Rufo and Bessent slam Somali welfare scam 'open secret' in Minnesota
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There are worse forms of authoritarianism but wanting everyone on a social platform with an algo you control is quite effective. #ChrisRufo is only complaining now cause it's not serving his interests as much as he thinks it should. All these well known folks with money behind them could support decentralized social media with no algos, but that would be worse for them than the old corporate press that treats them, but not us, as people to consider in the "discourse".
https://christopherrufo.com/p/how-the-media-shape-our-thinking?publication_id=1248321&r=110ak
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There are worse forms of authoritarianism but wanting everyone on a social platform with an algo you control is quite effective. #ChrisRufo is only complaining now cause it's not serving his interests as much as he thinks it should. All these well known folks with money behind them could support decentralized social media with no algos, but that would be worse for them than the old corporate press that treats them, but not us, as people to consider in the "discourse".
https://christopherrufo.com/p/how-the-media-shape-our-thinking?publication_id=1248321&r=110ak
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There are worse forms of authoritarianism but wanting everyone on a social platform with an algo you control is quite effective. #ChrisRufo is only complaining now cause it's not serving his interests as much as he thinks it should. All these well known folks with money behind them could support decentralized social media with no algos, but that would be worse for them than the old corporate press that treats them, but not us, as people to consider in the "discourse".
https://christopherrufo.com/p/how-the-media-shape-our-thinking?publication_id=1248321&r=110ak
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the absolute meltdown of the MAGA movement into a circular firing squad of christian nationalism, gay baiting, and conspiracy theories about "the joos" in the aftermath of the murder of #CharlieKirk is incredibly heartwarming.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes have done truly incredible work on behalf of humanity.
#MAGA #uspol #chrisRufo #ChristopherRufo #uspolitics #antisemitism #CandaceOwens #TuckerCarlson
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the absolute meltdown of the MAGA movement into a circular firing squad of christian nationalism, gay baiting, and conspiracy theories about "the joos" in the aftermath of the murder of #CharlieKirk is incredibly heartwarming.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes have done truly incredible work on behalf of humanity.
#MAGA #uspol #chrisRufo #ChristopherRufo #uspolitics #antisemitism #CandaceOwens #TuckerCarlson
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the absolute meltdown of the MAGA movement into a circular firing squad of christian nationalism, gay baiting, and conspiracy theories about "the joos" in the aftermath of the murder of #CharlieKirk is incredibly heartwarming.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes have done truly incredible work on behalf of humanity.
#MAGA #uspol #chrisRufo #ChristopherRufo #uspolitics #antisemitism #CandaceOwens #TuckerCarlson
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the absolute meltdown of the MAGA movement into a circular firing squad of christian nationalism, gay baiting, and conspiracy theories about "the joos" in the aftermath of the murder of #CharlieKirk is incredibly heartwarming.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes have done truly incredible work on behalf of humanity.
#MAGA #uspol #chrisRufo #ChristopherRufo #uspolitics #antisemitism #CandaceOwens #TuckerCarlson
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the absolute meltdown of the MAGA movement into a circular firing squad of christian nationalism, gay baiting, and conspiracy theories about "the joos" in the aftermath of the murder of #CharlieKirk is incredibly heartwarming.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Nick Fuentes have done truly incredible work on behalf of humanity.
#MAGA #uspol #chrisRufo #ChristopherRufo #uspolitics #antisemitism #CandaceOwens #TuckerCarlson
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apparently more than a third of #republican voters in the US are now holocaust deniers¹? and 41% think 9/11 was an inside job.
these numbers came from the trump loving, christopher rufo paying, super right wing Manhattan Institute. this is not a liberal pollster.
¹ maybe "holocaust truthers" is a more apt description but... whatever
#ManhattanInstitute #GOP #Vaccines #antivaxxers #holocaust #September11th #moonlanding #conspiracyTheories #ChrisRufo #christopherRufo #covid #lableak #MAGA #uspol #uspolitics
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apparently more than a third of #republican voters in the US are now holocaust deniers¹? and 41% think 9/11 was an inside job.
these numbers came from the trump loving, christopher rufo paying, super right wing Manhattan Institute. this is not a liberal pollster.
¹ maybe "holocaust truthers" is a more apt description but... whatever
#ManhattanInstitute #GOP #Vaccines #antivaxxers #holocaust #September11th #moonlanding #conspiracyTheories #ChrisRufo #christopherRufo #covid #lableak #MAGA #uspol #uspolitics
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apparently more than a third of #republican voters in the US are now holocaust deniers¹? and 41% think 9/11 was an inside job.
these numbers came from the trump loving, christopher rufo paying, super right wing Manhattan Institute. this is not a liberal pollster.
¹ maybe "holocaust truthers" is a more apt description but... whatever
#ManhattanInstitute #GOP #Vaccines #antivaxxers #holocaust #September11th #moonlanding #conspiracyTheories #ChrisRufo #christopherRufo #covid #lableak #MAGA #uspol #uspolitics
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apparently more than a third of #republican voters in the US are now holocaust deniers¹? and 41% think 9/11 was an inside job.
these numbers came from the trump loving, christopher rufo paying, super right wing Manhattan Institute. this is not a liberal pollster.
¹ maybe "holocaust truthers" is a more apt description but... whatever
#ManhattanInstitute #GOP #Vaccines #antivaxxers #holocaust #September11th #moonlanding #conspiracyTheories #ChrisRufo #christopherRufo #covid #lableak #MAGA #uspol #uspolitics
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apparently more than a third of #republican voters in the US are now holocaust deniers¹? and 41% think 9/11 was an inside job.
these numbers came from the trump loving, christopher rufo paying, super right wing Manhattan Institute. this is not a liberal pollster.
¹ maybe "holocaust truthers" is a more apt description but... whatever
#ManhattanInstitute #GOP #Vaccines #antivaxxers #holocaust #September11th #moonlanding #conspiracyTheories #ChrisRufo #christopherRufo #covid #lableak #MAGA #uspol #uspolitics
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Watters: This should have been the BIGGEST story in the 2024 election (Video)
Manhattan Institute senior fellow Chris Rufo details the alleged scam and political inaction in Minnesota on 'Jesse Watters Primetime.' #fox #media #breakingnews #us #usa #new #news #breaking #jessewattersprimetime #foxnews #jessewatters #minnesota #election #2024 #scam #fraud #crime #crimenews #crimestory #criminal #police #chrisrufo #politics #political #politicalnews #government #america…
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The 5-point plan to turn Trump’s 2025 wins into permanent victory
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Debt slavery for the young, tax breaks for the old — welcome to America’s housing reality
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Explosive alliance: ‘Rufo & Lomez’ ignites BlazeTV’s war on woke culture
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@cryptadamist Hey #ChrisRufo you don't need to come for me. I'm coming for you. Within the confines of the same law that binds you and your fascist hoard.
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@cryptadamist Hey #ChrisRufo you don't need to come for me. I'm coming for you. Within the confines of the same law that binds you and your fascist hoard.
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@cryptadamist Hey #ChrisRufo you don't need to come for me. I'm coming for you. Within the confines of the same law that binds you and your fascist hoard.
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@cryptadamist Hey #ChrisRufo you don't need to come for me. I'm coming for you. Within the confines of the same law that binds you and your fascist hoard.
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@cryptadamist Hey #ChrisRufo you don't need to come for me. I'm coming for you. Within the confines of the same law that binds you and your fascist hoard.
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Along with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z,
Andreessen joined a slew of others,
including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions.The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted,
and they had different settings.(“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman.
“People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)
After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.”
There, writers including #Kmele #Foster, who co-hosts the podcast
"The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder #Yascha #Mounk, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist #Chris #Rufo.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement:
“He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group
— which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold.
The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an
“illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech.The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.
The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams,
along with the never-Trump conservative #David #French and the liberal academic #Jason #Stanley,
wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education,
it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,”
they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle,
and considered their position a betrayal.Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,”
a participant recalled.The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of
‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to #Rufo, a healthy development.
“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,”
he said.“By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end
— so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along:
“I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.”#MarcAndreessen #LexFridman
#ChrisRufo
#VivekRamaswamy #ErikTorenberg #Krishnan
#NoahSmithhttps://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Along with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z,
Andreessen joined a slew of others,
including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions.The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted,
and they had different settings.(“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman.
“People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)
After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.”
There, writers including #Kmele #Foster, who co-hosts the podcast
"The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder #Yascha #Mounk, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist #Chris #Rufo.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement:
“He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group
— which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold.
The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an
“illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech.The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.
The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams,
along with the never-Trump conservative #David #French and the liberal academic #Jason #Stanley,
wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education,
it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,”
they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle,
and considered their position a betrayal.Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,”
a participant recalled.The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of
‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to #Rufo, a healthy development.
“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,”
he said.“By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end
— so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along:
“I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.”#MarcAndreessen #LexFridman
#ChrisRufo
#VivekRamaswamy #ErikTorenberg #Krishnan
#NoahSmithhttps://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Along with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z,
Andreessen joined a slew of others,
including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions.The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted,
and they had different settings.(“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman.
“People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)
After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.”
There, writers including #Kmele #Foster, who co-hosts the podcast
"The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder #Yascha #Mounk, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist #Chris #Rufo.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement:
“He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group
— which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold.
The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an
“illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech.The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.
The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams,
along with the never-Trump conservative #David #French and the liberal academic #Jason #Stanley,
wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education,
it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,”
they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle,
and considered their position a betrayal.Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,”
a participant recalled.The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of
‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to #Rufo, a healthy development.
“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,”
he said.“By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end
— so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along:
“I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.”#MarcAndreessen #LexFridman
#ChrisRufo
#VivekRamaswamy #ErikTorenberg #Krishnan
#NoahSmithhttps://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Along with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z,
Andreessen joined a slew of others,
including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions.The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted,
and they had different settings.(“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman.
“People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)
After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.”
There, writers including #Kmele #Foster, who co-hosts the podcast
"The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder #Yascha #Mounk, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist #Chris #Rufo.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement:
“He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group
— which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold.
The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an
“illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech.The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.
The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams,
along with the never-Trump conservative #David #French and the liberal academic #Jason #Stanley,
wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education,
it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,”
they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle,
and considered their position a betrayal.Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,”
a participant recalled.The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of
‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to #Rufo, a healthy development.
“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,”
he said.“By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end
— so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along:
“I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.”#MarcAndreessen #LexFridman
#ChrisRufo
#VivekRamaswamy #ErikTorenberg #Krishnan
#NoahSmithhttps://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Along with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z,
Andreessen joined a slew of others,
including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions.The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted,
and they had different settings.(“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman.
“People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)
After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.”
There, writers including #Kmele #Foster, who co-hosts the podcast
"The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder #Yascha #Mounk, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist #Chris #Rufo.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement:
“He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group
— which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold.
The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an
“illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech.The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.
The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams,
along with the never-Trump conservative #David #French and the liberal academic #Jason #Stanley,
wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education,
it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,”
they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle,
and considered their position a betrayal.Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,”
a participant recalled.The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of
‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to #Rufo, a healthy development.
“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,”
he said.“By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end
— so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along:
“I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.”#MarcAndreessen #LexFridman
#ChrisRufo
#VivekRamaswamy #ErikTorenberg #Krishnan
#NoahSmithhttps://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Maybe I need to find one good #ChrisRufo monitor because then you know what @FAIR will be complaining about in a few months when some mutation of his trolling passes muster with a half dozen of the more ghoulish editors at the Times.
Sorry to any #ASL Americans with the incredible human capacity to convey language entirely by sign. Which came first? It would be more fun to think about than who the bellwether troll will dehumanize next.
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Maybe I need to find one good #ChrisRufo monitor because then you know what @FAIR will be complaining about in a few months when some mutation of his trolling passes muster with a half dozen of the more ghoulish editors at the Times.
Sorry to any #ASL Americans with the incredible human capacity to convey language entirely by sign. Which came first? It would be more fun to think about than who the bellwether troll will dehumanize next.
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Maybe I need to find one good #ChrisRufo monitor because then you know what @FAIR will be complaining about in a few months when some mutation of his trolling passes muster with a half dozen of the more ghoulish editors at the Times.
Sorry to any #ASL Americans with the incredible human capacity to convey language entirely by sign. Which came first? It would be more fun to think about than who the bellwether troll will dehumanize next.
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Maybe I need to find one good #ChrisRufo monitor because then you know what @FAIR will be complaining about in a few months when some mutation of his trolling passes muster with a half dozen of the more ghoulish editors at the Times.
Sorry to any #ASL Americans with the incredible human capacity to convey language entirely by sign. Which came first? It would be more fun to think about than who the bellwether troll will dehumanize next.
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Maybe I need to find one good #ChrisRufo monitor because then you know what @FAIR will be complaining about in a few months when some mutation of his trolling passes muster with a half dozen of the more ghoulish editors at the Times.
Sorry to any #ASL Americans with the incredible human capacity to convey language entirely by sign. Which came first? It would be more fun to think about than who the bellwether troll will dehumanize next.