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MX Linux 25.2 Beta 1 brings new text installer and important fixes

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://nerds.xyz/2026/05/mx-linux-25-2-beta-1-text-installer/

MX Linux 25.2 Beta 1 brings new text installer and important fixes

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://nerds.xyz/2026/05/mx-linux-25-2-beta-1-text-installer/

#Openbox ?#Fluxbox ? or #MATE? for a desktop environment and why?

Love to hear opinions?

#linux #unix #opensource #foss

SSD not CSD

The nice thing about that period, is that everything was keyboard driven and the mouse was only used when it was handy. The great thing about that period, is that you could do everything literally everything with your keyboard and the user interfaces were much more simple to design, modify and to expand, because it was much easier for the programmers to determine what you want based upon the fact that you are using the keyboard as input.

It started to go downhill when the scrollwheel was added.

Three buttons were enough.

Everything degenerated to CSD, while SSD is the proper way to go, and we now have hacks to force SSD in different Linux distributions. Hopefully the BSD flavours have such hacks too

If you still want SSD as much as possible, you need to use fluxbox as your DM / WM and use the considerable tweaks that @rl_dane has suggested to me in another toot in this thread, get firefox to behave normally again. You should also disable all the silly LLM stuff in ffox...
Im going to put the tweaks at work here on this SBC Pi5, I'm currently on

@tragivictoria  @Radio_Azureus @magitian

#GUI #TUI #design #40years #fvwm #twm #Xorg #programming #technology #DE #desktop #environment #WM #window #manager #FluxBox #XFCE #KDE #GNOME #design

# CSD
Reading up on CSD, client side decorations

Client side decorations give a lot of headaches when they're not properly implemented many of these mods should just stay with SSD, server side decorations

Quote
> GtkHeaderBar merges the title bar, menu bar and tool bar into one unified horizontal bar to give more space to the application content, potentially reducing the amount of wasted space by showing empty bars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-side_decoration?wprov=sfla1

#GUI #TUI #CSD #design #40years #fvwm #twm #Xorg #programming #technology #DE #desktop #environment #WM #window #manager #FluxBox #XFCE #KDE #GNOME #design

You're absolutely right there are worse things occuring.

But the following is a bad CSD

CSD In Firefox mobile

• Something odd was changed in the user interface; the sidebar it's actually the menu that you get when you tap on the double point in the lower right corner, was transformed into this massive monstrosity which covers the whole Android display.
• It distracts
• All the extra information is useless
• it takes many more GPU Cycles to throw that big thing on the screen
• no one was consulted within the user base would tell them that it just makes everything worse, because you don't see anything underneath

CSD Enshittification Factor

Instead of going on I'll just stick with what that still works I may need to go all the way back to that MX Linux distro which at least feels familiar and use as many clients that don't abuse CSDs

One more question; what example do you have of something that's worse than client-side decorations

IMHO the one I just referred too, is a very bad one

Quote Wikipedia:

Limitations
If the application hangs, the user cannot close it by clicking the close button in the window frame.[12]

BTW to prove your point;

It took me 15 minutes to compose this lousy small message on the Android. It would have taken me 120 seconds on one of the desktops running here
All because of horrific user interfaces low free RAM and bad CSD choices on the Android

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-side_decoration?wprov=sfla1

#GUI #TUI #CSD #design #40years #fvwm #twm #Xorg #programming #technology #user #environment #DE #desktop #environment #WM #window #manager #FluxBox #XFCE #KDE #GNOME #design

@rl_dane @dendrobatus_azureus @magitian

GUI TUI

Your response sheds a clear light on what's wrong, deeply wrong in this matter.

I stick to DE and window managers which feel and look like they're from decades ago. In those I don't face the horrible points you stated. I glanced at the theme on it's own and did not take these points into account.

From the perspective of UI design, many GUI's have been deliberately broken with the thin and disappearing scroll bars which are a *PITA and the removal of the menu bar by default in this bloody browser I work in ATM within standardnotes. There is so much broken in those things I would need to type a whole book full, yet very few would read it.
I always find workarounds which is what I stated in the previous stansa.

You're right that 40 years of meticulous UI design, craft and tweaking should be cherished and expanded. I wonder why this trend started

I loved working in fvwm & twm and did it for years

Are there still Window and Desktop Managers left which are currently maintaned and follow the priciples as strickt as possible? What do you think of KDE in this light?

Note:
I use XFCE as my DE and love the other light one in the MX Linux distro FluxBox. The older it is the better I can fly thorugh it with my keyboard and windows behave in a standard way

@rl_dane @Radio_Azureus @magitian

#GUI #TUI #design #40years #fvwm #twm #Xorg #programming #technology #DE #desktop #environment #WM #window #manager #FluxBox #XFCE #KDE #GNOME #design

continuing to work on #WindowMaker style #DockApps for #Fluxbox. Currently have:
* fluxCalClock
* fluxMatrix
* fluxMoon
* fluxData (for moon and weather data)
* fluxKeyboardLayout
* fluxPowerControl
* fluxMail
and
* fluxPlayer

fluxPlayer is not working well yet, but I don't have a lot of experience with controlling media players remotely. (usually just use #MPV). Working on fluxNetwork now; fluxWeather will be after that.

#Anthropic #ClaudeCode just helped me make fluxMoon --- my third #WindowMaker #DockApp for #Fluxbox (on #Linux, #Gentoo, in my case). Took about 10 minutes, but only because I was reading email also.

I love the old dock apps. been using them since the late 1990s. Have 7 now, used to be ~12.

My new ones are homage but for modern systems --- 64, 96, and 128px options, l/c/r mouse button options, config file support, and written in #Rust. So, I hope at least not horribly insecure?

#FLOSS

I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but I spent half of today #VibeCoding a solar system exploration #game and a #python program to create montages of the images in a folder. Also started on a modern #WindowMaker Dock App for #Fluxbox.

Imagine what I (barely amateur level programmer) will be able to (ask an LLM to) do in a couple of years? Will it destroy Open Source? Will it end proprietary software? How will the powers that be capture it and monetize it?

#programming #LLM #AI

One Open-source Project Daily

Dark variant of Windows 10 theme

https://github.com/B00merang-Project/Windows-10-Dark

#1ospd #opensource #10 #cinnamontheme #dark #darktheme #desktopenvironment #fluxbox #gnomeshelltheme #gtk3theme #linuxtheme #microsoft #openbox #theme #tint2 #unitytheme #variants #windows #windows10 #xfcetheme

Also, I think the #WindowManager needs to support #UTF8 natively, so the title bar doesn't show #bakemoji when viewing a page with #Japanese. Not sure why, but on my #Gentoo box, #Fluxbox does not show Japanese in the title bar.

MX Linux 25.1 Infinity beta brings back dual-init and real user choice

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://nerds.xyz/2026/01/mx-25-1-beta-dual-init/

@juliavithoria Muy bueno #Fedora #KDE!

Yo no tengo carpetas en el escritorio xD

Te comparto mi #ViernesDeEscritorio en #ArchLinux, es un #lxqt, salvo el fondo, el resto creo que no lo he cambiado en los últimos 10 años, por eso no comparto nunca, ya aburre.

Creo que tengo otros entornos de escritorio instalados (#xfce4, #fluxbox, #lxde y algún otro) así cuando falla #Qt y se me rompe todo, puedo salir del paso hasta la próxima upgrade... con #Arch siempre vivís al límite 😆

My TTh #AdultESOL class finished Thursday. My SSu class finished today! I have two weekends off and have my TTh nights back (not doing that class again anytime soon - just too much during the regular #k12 school year).

So, of course, the first thing I did this afternoon was have #ChatGPT help me come up with #Mozilla #Firefox userChrome.js to make the keyboard shortcuts more like #emacs.

Also created a script to grab webcam frames for #conky to display (#fluxbox #linux) on the desktop.

Optimizing Linux for low-end hardware is crucial for running a smooth and efficient system on older or less powerful machines. Here’s a comprehensive guide to help you achieve this:

https://linuxexpert.org/how-to-optimize-linux-for-low-end-hardware/

#linux #LinuxOptimization #LowEndHardware #LightweightLinux #Lubuntu #Xubuntu #LinuxLite #PuppyLinux #LXDE #XFCE #Openbox #Fluxbox #SystemOptimization #LightweightApps #ResourceManagement #CustomKernel #LinuxPerformance #TechTips #LinuxTutorial #OptimizeLinux #TechSavvy