#trolleyproblem — Public Fediverse posts
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Two year old sister's solution to Trolley Problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZULuedsaB9U #trolleyproblem
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A two-year-old's solution to the trolley problem: https://youtu.be/-N_RZJUAQY4?si=2Mo4LCaThi5Jkqtn
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Ah, yes, because when you're building #Skynet, what you really need is a bunch of philosophers noodling about the trolley problem 🤔. Who knew #JavaScript and #cookies were the gateway to existential enlightenment 🍪🤖?
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2026/06/24/why-big-ai-labs-are-hiring-so-many-philosophers #Philosophy #TrolleyProblem #HackerNews #ngated -
The #TrolleyProblem is not abstract. There is absolutely an IRL version of it: #voting.
So, every couple years #leftists argue about whether or not to vote for the lesser of two evils.
They have a lever ( #vote ), and if they pull the lever then fewer people die. If they do nothing, more people die.
There are two basic moral foundations for this decision:
- Deontological: actions are morally good or bad, not consequences.
- Utilitarian: outcomes determine the moral value of actions.I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of each. Instead, I'm going to address the psychological aspect of it.
People who align to Deontological ethics (which is a significant, if not outright majority, of those on the #left) view things in terms of purity and taint.
The action affects the moral weight of the person. So the person is viewed as a good or bad person depending upon whether their actions and behaviors are judged as morally righteous by the standards of their political alignment.
People who align to Utilitarian ethics don't give a shit about any of that. Furthermore they consider _not acting_ to be a morally culpable choice. There is no difference between the original position of the lever.
Now, there are some who would argue for not voting for a utilitarian reason. The argument is basically that not voting forces the parties to court your vote, and thus moving them closer to your position.
I don't think this is true in modern democracies, because politicians already do not support policies that the vast majority of their voters support.
But, I will grant it. If you are to take this to be the case, then here is your cost function:
sum(t=0, T-1, discount(t, (harm_worse(t)-harm_lesser(t))) < (p x sum(t=T, infinity, discount(t, (harm_lesser(t)-harm_better(t))))
This is basically saying that you have to be willing to pay the harm caused the the worse evil as the price for the gains after your inflection point.
Which, points to the deontological argument in favor of voting for the lesser evil: you are buying a good future by paying with lives and bodies that (likely) are not your own. You are throwing someone under the bus for your moral purity.
Personally?
I personally think that the only reason evil is allowed to exist in our world at all is because good people are so afraid of "being bad" that they constantly abdicate the reins of power to evil people. Those #evil people exploit it.Edit: This post was inspired by a conversation here: https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/116644205722247047
If you aren't already following @mekkaokereke, I do recommend his feed.
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I like the trolley memes subreddit, but it sorely lacks the Koenigsberg Trolley problem.
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La #Clonazione è una pessima idea parliamo anche di #Utilitarismo #Carnecoltivata e #Trolleyproblem https://youtu.be/YLt6gojQmIQ?si=ic7BoLYjF0yD3lhz via @YouTube
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I'm curious... it's a tinkered with Trolley Problem from the film, The Belko Experiment.
1. You work in a large office block and, as you and 79 of your co-workers arrive for the day, you are told via an intercom that you have 30 minutes to kill two people by any means. If you don't, the tracker devices that you all (including you) have implanted at the base of your skull will implode and kill 4 of you - what do you do?
2. After seeing 4 of your co-workers be killed when their trackers explode (you ignored the directive to kill 2 of you all), you are told that you now have 2 hours to kill 30 people. If you don't, the tracker devices that you all (including you) have implanted at the base of your skulls will implode and kill 60 of you - what do you do?
#Poll #PleaseShare #curious #movie #TheBelkoExperiment #TrolleyProblem
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Luckily, the trolley is still going just slowly enough that you can jump on from where you're standing along the track. But only if you act fast! Otherwise, you will get left behind.
What do you do?
2/2
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All choices have consequences. Including symbolic action, and inaction.
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KI trifft ethische Entscheidung: Trolley-Problem lösen.
KI: „Ich optimiere den Gesamtnutzen."
Mensch: „Aber das ist mein Opa!"
KI: „Irrelevant."
Mensch: „Wer hat dich das gelehrt?"
KI: „Ihre Trainingsdaten."Vielleicht sollten wir KI weniger beibringen, was wir tun – und mehr, warum wir manchmal absichtlich ineffizient sind. 🤔
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People seem to love philosophical trolley problems, but they expose more about ontological grammar than a morality profile.
The first of a 2-part series on the trolley problem. Part 2 will extend the issue out of the lab and into reality with autonomous devices.
#philosophy #psychology #morality #ontologicalgrammar #harm #trolleyproblem #choice #legibility #acculturation #society #ethics #deontology #virtue #consequences #utility #value #stoicism #blog #podcast
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Вы можете остановить трамвай в любой момент, но те, кого уже раздавило, погибли напрасно.
И это можно трактовать по разному.
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Trolley problem ICE version
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Good Trolley Problem
You're standing on the tracks and a trolley is approaching.
You have time to get out of the way and do so.
Do you shoot the driver for no reason? (doing so wouldn't stop the trolley anyway)(Sorry, I don’t know who to credit for creating this)
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I think we can accomplish so much more if we swap #moral and #physics conundrums. Find an engineer and present them with the trolley problem. Find a philosopher and ask them if a plane can take off from a conveyor belt.
#TrolleyProblem #ConveyorBeltPlane #ImSurprisedThereIsntAPlaneOnAConveyorBeltHashtag
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So, a private jet burns about 904 litres of fuel per hour, which means approximately 2 metric tonnes of carbon emissions each hour.
Santa's sleigh travels for 24 hours straight, to deliver presents all over the globe. This means 48 metric tonnes AT LEAST, because it's a pretty safe assumption that the sleigh needs more power (and therefore more fuel) than a private jet.
So, this brings us to the Trolley Problem—do we kill Santa to save the world?
...and dont come up in here with bullshit about Christmas Magic.
This is science, motherfuckers!#science #christmas #santa #ClimateCrisis #ClimateJustice #TrolleyProblem #philosophy
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Well now, there's a Trolley Problem.
But what if you knew the baby would grow up to be a new Hitler? What then?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/party-mp-ayoub-khan-killed-dog-save-babys-life
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Through the Philosophy of Integration, my framework, I have dismantled the well-known, always debated, Trolley Problem. If you would like to see how I dismantled it, check out the link.
https://philosophy.dellawren.com/philosophical-myths-and-moral-illusions/the-trolley-problem/
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“The trolley problem forces us to weigh outcomes against intentions. Do we pull the lever because it saves lives, or because we’re unwilling to be the cause of death?” #TrolleyProblem #Ethics #MoralPhilosophy #DecisionMaking #ThoughtExperiment
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Taking out the trash | Absurd Trolley Problems
Latest clip compilation:
https://youtu.be/EGyVDGK6gf0#MonzMont #MonzClips #PHVTuber #ENVTuber #VTuber #PNGTuber #Shorts #AbsurdTrolleyProblems #TrolleyProblem #Philosophy
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CW: cartoon violence, trolley problem
@teamseaslug @ElleGray You're going to have to try this interactive Trolley Problem
https://neal.fun/absurd-trolley-problems/
And, if that is not enough, check out https://neal.fun/ to lob some asteroids, etc.
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After collectively giggling at https://neal.fun/absurd-trolley-problems/ with the D&D group the other night, I've just been sent this. #git #TrolleyProblem #TheNeedsOfTheMany
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Finally! The #TrolleyProblem has been gamified for the #C64:
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Trolleys don’t kill people, philosophers pulling levers kill people.
#charliekirk #trolleyproblem #trolleyproblem #trolleymeme #philosophymeme #2a #gunviolence #secondamendment
