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It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
[Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery
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It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
[Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery
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It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
[Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery
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It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
[Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery
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Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
[Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences
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Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
[Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences
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Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
[Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences
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Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
[Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences
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But doubtless Plato was right in foreseeing that unless kings became philosophical themselves, they would never take the advice of real philosophers, drenched as they are and infected with false values from boyhood on.
[Sed bene haud dubie praeuidit Plato, nisi reges philosophentur ipsi, nunquam futurum, ut peruersis opinionibus a pueris imbuti, atque infecti penitus philosophantium comprobent consilia.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Adams (1992 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83253/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #advice #advisors #corruption #counsel #inculcation #king #philosopher #philosophy #ruler #upbringing
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But doubtless Plato was right in foreseeing that unless kings became philosophical themselves, they would never take the advice of real philosophers, drenched as they are and infected with false values from boyhood on.
[Sed bene haud dubie praeuidit Plato, nisi reges philosophentur ipsi, nunquam futurum, ut peruersis opinionibus a pueris imbuti, atque infecti penitus philosophantium comprobent consilia.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Adams (1992 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83253/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #advice #advisors #corruption #counsel #inculcation #king #philosopher #philosophy #ruler #upbringing
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But doubtless Plato was right in foreseeing that unless kings became philosophical themselves, they would never take the advice of real philosophers, drenched as they are and infected with false values from boyhood on.
[Sed bene haud dubie praeuidit Plato, nisi reges philosophentur ipsi, nunquam futurum, ut peruersis opinionibus a pueris imbuti, atque infecti penitus philosophantium comprobent consilia.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Adams (1992 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83253/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #advice #advisors #corruption #counsel #inculcation #king #philosopher #philosophy #ruler #upbringing
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But doubtless Plato was right in foreseeing that unless kings became philosophical themselves, they would never take the advice of real philosophers, drenched as they are and infected with false values from boyhood on.
[Sed bene haud dubie praeuidit Plato, nisi reges philosophentur ipsi, nunquam futurum, ut peruersis opinionibus a pueris imbuti, atque infecti penitus philosophantium comprobent consilia.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Adams (1992 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83253/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #advice #advisors #corruption #counsel #inculcation #king #philosopher #philosophy #ruler #upbringing
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But doubtless Plato was right in foreseeing that unless kings became philosophical themselves, they would never take the advice of real philosophers, drenched as they are and infected with false values from boyhood on.
[Sed bene haud dubie praeuidit Plato, nisi reges philosophentur ipsi, nunquam futurum, ut peruersis opinionibus a pueris imbuti, atque infecti penitus philosophantium comprobent consilia.]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Adams (1992 ed.)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83253/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #advice #advisors #corruption #counsel #inculcation #king #philosopher #philosophy #ruler #upbringing
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Will thou know what wonders strange be in the land that late was found?
Will thou learn thy life to lead, by divers ways that godly be?
Will thou of virtue and vice understand the very ground?
Will thou see this wretched world, how full it is of vanity?
[Vis nova monstra, novo dudum nunc orbe reperto?
Vivendi varia uis ratione modos?
Vis qui virtutum fontes, vis unde malorum
Principia? et quantum rebus inane latet?]Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
Utopia, “A Meter of Four Verses in the Utopian Tongue,” “Cornelius Graphey to the Reader” (1516 ed.) [tr. Open Utopia (Duncombe) (2012)]More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83122/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #discovery #exploration #foreigners #strangeness #virtue #wonder
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Hype for the Future 122A: What is “Northern Kentucky?”
Introduction One of perhaps the most confusing regions along the Ohio River in the United States of America is the region in the Commonwealth of Kentucky known as “Northern Kentucky,” whose cultural anchor is out of state in the City of Cincinnati primarily on the Ohio side. Though the Kentucky side was established earlier than the Ohio side, and even the old name “Losantiville” relates to the Licking River, the modern area is centered on the Ohio side, which has technically been […]https://novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026/03/02/hype-for-the-future-122a-what-is-northern-kentucky/
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Hype for the Future 122A: What is “Northern Kentucky?”
Introduction One of perhaps the most confusing regions along the Ohio River in the United States of America is the region in the Commonwealth of Kentucky known as “Northern Kentucky,” whose cultural anchor is out of state in the City of Cincinnati primarily on the Ohio side. Though the Kentucky side was established earlier than the Ohio side, and even the old name “Losantiville” relates to the Licking River, the modern area is centered on the Ohio side, which has technically been […]https://novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026/03/02/hype-for-the-future-122a-what-is-northern-kentucky/
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Hype for the Future 122A: What is “Northern Kentucky?”
Introduction One of perhaps the most confusing regions along the Ohio River in the United States of America is the region in the Commonwealth of Kentucky known as “Northern Kentucky,” whose cultural anchor is out of state in the City of Cincinnati primarily on the Ohio side. Though the Kentucky side was established earlier than the Ohio side, and even the old name “Losantiville” relates to the Licking River, the modern area is centered on the Ohio side, which has technically been […]https://novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026/03/02/hype-for-the-future-122a-what-is-northern-kentucky/
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Hype for the Future 122A: What is “Northern Kentucky?”
Introduction One of perhaps the most confusing regions along the Ohio River in the United States of America is the region in the Commonwealth of Kentucky known as “Northern Kentucky,” whose cultural anchor is out of state in the City of Cincinnati primarily on the Ohio side. Though the Kentucky side was established earlier than the Ohio side, and even the old name “Losantiville” relates to the Licking River, the modern area is centered on the Ohio side, which has technically been […]https://novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026/03/02/hype-for-the-future-122a-what-is-northern-kentucky/
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Hype for the Future 122A: What is “Northern Kentucky?”
Introduction One of perhaps the most confusing regions along the Ohio River in the United States of America is the region in the Commonwealth of Kentucky known as “Northern Kentucky,” whose cultural anchor is out of state in the City of Cincinnati primarily on the Ohio side. Though the Kentucky side was established earlier than the Ohio side, and even the old name “Losantiville” relates to the Licking River, the modern area is centered on the Ohio side, which has technically been […]https://novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026/03/02/hype-for-the-future-122a-what-is-northern-kentucky/
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Contrasting work & play, "Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction" by Matthew Leggatt looks at playfulness and labour, boredom & the future of play in literature, films & TV series, from #ThomasMore to #SquidGame
#Utopia #Dystopia #SpeculativeFiction #LiteraryStudies #TVStudies #FilmStudies
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Teaser La passion d’une conscience par François-Daniel MIGEON
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7.2: Ariel & Christina Discuss: Why Must Utopia Be Cruel?
In this episode, Ariel and Christina try to get to the bottom of why our fictional visions of utopia are so negative. They often involve mindless acquiescence to an authoritarian nanny state, the oppression and labor of an underclass, or both. It’s as if we can’t imagine a situation in which we all voluntarily treat each other (reasonably) decently and life can be good for everyone. We discuss the literary origins of utopia, how it has evolved (or not) as a concept, and Ariel gives a few examples of sci-fi futures that are about as close to her style of solarpunk utopia as can be. Ultimately, the topic of utopia raises more questions than answers.
https://youtu.be/WR8yg2cOcMk?si=AwMMgH2MNFHmO8Ct
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