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  1. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "cow" comes from Proto-Indo-European *gʷeh₃-u-s [gwous], perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    which also developed into Dari گاو [gau] and Persian گاو [gov]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    and very many other Indo-European languages, such as Ancient Greek βοῦς [bous]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faradeed.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4

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  2. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "cow" comes from Proto-Indo-European *gʷeh₃-u-s [gwous], perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    which also developed into Dari گاو [gau] and Persian گاو [gov]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    and very many other Indo-European languages, such as Ancient Greek βοῦς [bous]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faradeed.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Dari #AncientGreek

  3. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "cow" comes from Proto-Indo-European *gʷeh₃-u-s [gwous], perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    which also developed into Dari گاو [gau] and Persian گاو [gov]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    and very many other Indo-European languages, such as Ancient Greek βοῦς [bous]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faradeed.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Dari #AncientGreek

  4. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "cow" comes from Proto-Indo-European *gʷeh₃-u-s [gwous], perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    which also developed into Dari گاو [gau] and Persian گاو [gov]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    and very many other Indo-European languages, such as Ancient Greek βοῦς [bous]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faradeed.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Dari #AncientGreek

  5. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "cow" comes from Proto-Indo-European *gʷeh₃-u-s [gwous], perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    which also developed into Dari گاو [gau] and Persian گاو [gov]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    and very many other Indo-European languages, such as Ancient Greek βοῦς [bous]:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faradeed.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8%B4

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Dari #AncientGreek

  6. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "choose" comes from Proto-Indo-European *ǵéus-, perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    You can't choose your relatives, but you can choose your friends. The same root *ǵéus- developed into Persian دوست duust "friend", i.e. (originally) one who is chosen:
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Image source: faramedia.co/%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  7. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    Here's a classic of Proto-Indo-European reconstruction. The English word "brother" descends from Proto-Indo-European *bʰréh₂tēr, perhaps something like this (listen):
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    *bʰréh₂tēr also developed into Old Persian 𐎲𐎼𐎠𐎫𐎠 (b-r-a-t-a) and then Modern Persian برادر barodar:
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig
    and related forms in most other Indo-European languages.

    Image source: Persian Wikipedia, fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/برادر

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  8. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "bough" comes from Proto-Indo-European *bʰeh₂ǵʰu- (pronounced [bʱa:g̟ʲʱu]), something like this (listen):

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    The same stem developed into Persian بازو bazu, maybe like this:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    A bough is an "arm" of a tree, and the Persian word بازو bazu means "arm".

    (Image from the website of an Iranian fitness centre, morabihamrah.com/)

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  9. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    English "bellows" and "belly" come via Anglo-Saxon beliġ and Proto-Germanic *balgi- from Proto-Indo-European *bʰólǵʰ- "bag", perhaps something like this (listen):

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    This simulation of *bʰólǵʰ- has initial [b], not [bʱ], as it's computed from recordings of Irish bolg, "bag", also a cognate.

    The same PIE root developed into Persian بالش bālish "pillow", like this:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Related words are found in other Iranian languages, e.g. Pashto بالښت balacht, Ossetian baʒ/baz, as well as in Slavic, e.g. Slovenian blazina.

    When I originally posted about this in November 2021, the linguist Magnus Pharao @magnuspharao.bsky.social pointed out that Danish bælg (seed pod of legumes and bellows) is also a cognate!

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  10. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    The English word “barrow”, i.e. a burial mound, comes via Proto-Germanic *berga from a Proto-Indo-European ancestor *bʰerǵʰ-os, meaning “height” and by extension “hill, mountain”.

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    The same Proto-Indo-European root *bʰerǵʰ- also developed into Persian برج borj “tower”:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    The Arabic word برج burj “tower”, as in the name of the Burj Khalifa tower, is not a Semitic word but is a loan-word from Persian.

    Kurdish برج berdz (Kurmani birc), Balochi برز ئه borza “height”, and English “borough” (originally referring to a town with raised fortifications), are also descended from *bʰerǵʰ-.

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Arabic #Kurdish #Balochi

  11. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    The word "khaki" is a loan from Urdu خاکی‎ xākī, a loan from Persian, from خاک xâk "earth", from Proto-Indo-European *h₂eh₂s [ħaχs], something like this (listen):

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    English "ash" (the grey-coloured burnt substance) also descends from *h₂eh₂s:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    In most Indo-European languages, *h₂ usually developed into [a], but in Iranian it's sometimes [x]. If you want a more detailed but much more technical explanation of the Proto-Indo-European "laryngeals" and how they were possibly or probably pronounced, try this: ancientsounds.net/laryngeals.h

    (The image used below is from an Iranian wood industry supplier's site, venonwood.biz, which currently seems to be still working in spite of the general internet blackout in Iran right now.)

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #englishlanguage #acousticphonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian #Urdu

  12. 𝗔𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝘁𝘆𝗺𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗮𝘆, 𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗣𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗘𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀

    The English word "ankle" comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₂eng-ul- [aŋgʊl], the stem *h₂eng- meaning perhaps "joint". Listen:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    In Persian *h₂eng- developed into انگشت angusht, "digit" i.e. finger or toe:

    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #englishlanguage #acousticphonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  13. Audio Etymologies of the Day, illustrating how Persian and English are related languages

    The Persian word for border, marz ( مرز ), comes from Proto-Indo-European *morǵ-eh₂, something like this:
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    The somewhat archaic English word march, meaning "frontier region", comes from same root *morǵ-eh₂:
    🔊 ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    This sense of "march" survives in the phrase "the Welsh Marches", the name of the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Mercia, George Eliot's title "Middlemarch", and Tolkien's imagined "Red Book of Westmarch".

    @linguistics #linguistics #etymology #englishlanguage #acousticphonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Iranian #Persian

  14. The #ProtoIndoEuropean (#PIE) #language, the reconstructed ancestor of the #IndoEuropean family, is a key discovery in historical linguistics. Spoken thousands of years ago, PIE gave rise to languages like #English, #Hindi, #Greek, and #Russian. These languages, integral to many cultures today, reflect PIE's legacy in #HumanMigration, #CulturalExchange, and #LanguageEvolution. Here’s a brief exploration:

    🌍 fabriziomusacchio.com/weekend_

    #WeekendStories #histodons

  15. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    Central to the Proto-Indo-European vowel system is the pattern of vowel changes named "ablaut" by 19th c. German-speaking linguists, e.g.:

    root: √*s—d “sit, settle”
    e-grade: *sed- > sit
    o-grade: *sod- > sat
    zero grade: *-sd-, in *ni-sd-o > nest
    long e-grade: *se:d-i‑ > seat
    long o-grade: *so:d-o- > soot

    sometimes leading to differences between languages. Audio examples at
    ancientsounds.net/ablaut.html

    #linguistics #philology #phonology #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean

  16. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    How do we "know" (infer) the pronunciation of words in Proto-Indo-European? The next instalment of my sprawling web pages on this question focusses on fricatives and frictionless continants (basically, r and l):
    ancientsounds.net/PIEconsonant

    Always glad to receive corrections, requests for clarification etc.

    #linguistics #philology #phonology #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean

  17. What are good articles (if any) about the relation of (Balto-)Slavic instrumental predicatives to cvi-/gúhā-construction in Sanskrit and Latin rubefaciō?

    Is there something looking deeper at the BSl. side (rather than from Skrt. perspective, only mentioning BSl. in passing)?

    (Looking for some IE #syntax reading more interesting than a millionth take on “default IE word order”)

    @linguistics #historicallinguistics #ProtoIndoEuropean #slavic #baltoslavic

  18. #TIL the word MULCT.

    noun: a fine or compulsory payment

    verb: to extract money by taxation or by fraud

    Possibly originates from a #ProtoIndoEuropean word for "to extract" or "to milk (something).

    I have never heard or read this word in my life.

    #English is gloriously weird.

    #language
    #words
    #ILoveWords
    #PIE
    #etymology

  19. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    “Swan” comes from Proto-Indo-European *swenh₂ [swenɐ], “to sound” (listen):
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig
    (I thus infer that swans of the PIE homeland weren't Mute swans, Cygnus olor 🤓 )

    *swenh₂ also developed into Ossetian хонын [xonɨn] “to call, invite”:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Latin sonō, “to sound”, is also from the same root.

    Image source: screenshot from youtube.com/watch?v=GG9fl7C1Qi

    #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Ossetian

  20. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    “Wed” comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₁wedʰ so, like “web”, has hardly changed in pronunciation over 6000 years (listen):
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    *h₁wedʰ also developed into Sanskrit वधू vadhu:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    Classical Persian خویدوده‎ xweydōdah is related to “wed”, but it's not the “weyd” part that's cognate; it's the “ōd” 😜.

    #linguistics #etymology #EnglishLanguage #AcousticPhonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Sanskrit

  21. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    “Water” comes from Proto-Indo-European *wodr (listen):
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig
    (This *wodr is a Philadelphia English speaker saying "water" 🙂 .)

    Ancient Greek ὕδωρ ‎[hýdo:r] and Slavic вода/woda/voda too.

    *wodr was a variant of *wodn, from the root *wed:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig
    The derived form *wedns developed into Sanskrit उदन् udan:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    #linguistics #etymology #englishlanguage #acousticphonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean #Sanskrit

  22. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    “Wasp” comes (via Anglo-Saxon waps) from Proto-Indo-European *h₁wobʰ-seh₂, a form of *h₁webʰ-, “weave”. Ignoring the -seh₂ suffix, like this (listen):
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    *h₁webʰ- also developed into Balochi گْوَپت gwap “weave”:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

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  23. Audio Etymologies of the Day

    “Teeth” comes from Anglo-Saxon tēþ, from earlier *[tœ:θi], from an older plural form of “tooth”, *[to:θi(z)]. Ultimately “teeth” comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₁d-ónt- “eater”, like this (listen):
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig

    *h₁d-ónt- also developed into Ancient Greek ὀδόντος odontos:
    🔈ancientsounds.net/eastern-orig
    from which English has more recently borrowed "orthodontist".

    #linguistics #etymology #englishlanguage #acousticphonetics #phonetics #ProtoIndoEuropean