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  1. The New Zealand Institute of Language, Brain and Behaviour is seeking a Postdoctoral Fellow to join the team.

    The project focuses on the analysis of vowels before /l/ in New Zealand English.

    Applications are invited from researchers with expertise in one or more of the following areas:

    Ultrasound imaging, #SocioPhonetics #SpeechPerception experiments, #Psycholinguistics, and laboratory #Phonology

    jobs.canterbury.ac.nz/jobdetai

  2. The New Zealand Institute of Language, Brain and Behaviour is seeking a Postdoctoral Fellow to join the team.

    The project focuses on the analysis of vowels before /l/ in New Zealand English.

    Applications are invited from researchers with expertise in one or more of the following areas:

    Ultrasound imaging, #SocioPhonetics #SpeechPerception experiments, #Psycholinguistics, and laboratory #Phonology

    jobs.canterbury.ac.nz/jobdetai

  3. What used to feel ‘eased’, now just felt ‘east’. What used to be ‘alive’, was now just ‘a life’. That was just how it was, ever since they finally devoiced.

    #linguistics #LinguisticsHumor #LinguisticsHumour #phonetics #phonology

  4. What used to feel ‘eased’, now just felt ‘east’. What used to be ‘alive’, was now just ‘a life’. That was just how it was, ever since they finally devoiced.

    #linguistics #LinguisticsHumor #LinguisticsHumour #phonetics #phonology

  5. What used to feel ‘eased’, now just felt ‘east’. What used to be ‘alive’, was now just ‘a life’. That was just how it was, ever since they finally devoiced.

    #linguistics #LinguisticsHumor #LinguisticsHumour #phonetics #phonology

  6. What used to feel ‘eased’, now just felt ‘east’. What used to be ‘alive’, was now just ‘a life’. That was just how it was, ever since they finally devoiced.

    #linguistics #LinguisticsHumor #LinguisticsHumour #phonetics #phonology

  7. Reconstructed 17th century English sounds a lot like Irish English. So why is Irish English so phonetically conservative? When English was brought to Ireland, Irish already distinguished vowels before /r/ and palatal /k/ and /g/ before front vowels.
    youtube.com/watch?v=rRZiUQv4F0E

    #EarlyModernEnglish #LanguageEvolution #IrishEnglish #phonology #linguistics

  8. Reconstructed 17th century English sounds a lot like Irish English. So why is Irish English so phonetically conservative? When English was brought to Ireland, Irish already distinguished vowels before /r/ and palatal /k/ and /g/ before front vowels.
    youtube.com/watch?v=rRZiUQv4F0E

    #EarlyModernEnglish #LanguageEvolution #IrishEnglish #phonology #linguistics

  9. Reconstructed 17th century English sounds a lot like Irish English. So why is Irish English so phonetically conservative? When English was brought to Ireland, Irish already distinguished vowels before /r/ and palatal /k/ and /g/ before front vowels.
    youtube.com/watch?v=rRZiUQv4F0E

    #EarlyModernEnglish #LanguageEvolution #IrishEnglish #phonology #linguistics

  10. Reconstructed 17th century English sounds a lot like Irish English. So why is Irish English so phonetically conservative? When English was brought to Ireland, Irish already distinguished vowels before /r/ and palatal /k/ and /g/ before front vowels.
    youtube.com/watch?v=rRZiUQv4F0E

    #EarlyModernEnglish #LanguageEvolution #IrishEnglish #phonology #linguistics

  11. @wikidata Cool tool! However, I find myself confused on the hyphenation tasks. I thought that hyphenation and syllabification were two different things. I thought that hyphenation was a typography concern and syllabification was related to phonology. But the hyphenation task references this hyphenation property:

    wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P52

    which defines hyphenation as "positions where a word can be hyphenated" and yet, in the "also known as" column, includes the term "syllabification".

    Which is it?

    For example, the word "Japanology".

    For hyphenation, I would leave "ology" as a phonological suffix, and the only hyphen would be between "Japan" and "ology". "Japan‧ology". I've always heard that hyphenation is more a matter of taste than a strict set of rules.

    But for syllabification, I would want the number of syllables to equal the number of vowel sounds (five). So syllabification would look something like "Ja‧pan‧ol‧o‧gy".

    Though frankly, it seems that there are a whole bunch of rules for syllabification that I either was never taught in school or have thoroughly forgot.

    Dropping some linguistics-related tags below to see if I can nerd-snipe anybody into providing more authoritative and/or helpful commentary.

    #english #grammar #syntax #morphology #phonology #linguistics

  12. @wikidata Cool tool! However, I find myself confused on the hyphenation tasks. I thought that hyphenation and syllabification were two different things. I thought that hyphenation was a typography concern and syllabification was related to phonology. But the hyphenation task references this hyphenation property:

    wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P52

    which defines hyphenation as "positions where a word can be hyphenated" and yet, in the "also known as" column, includes the term "syllabification".

    Which is it?

    For example, the word "Japanology".

    For hyphenation, I would leave "ology" as a phonological suffix, and the only hyphen would be between "Japan" and "ology". "Japan‧ology". I've always heard that hyphenation is more a matter of taste than a strict set of rules.

    But for syllabification, I would want the number of syllables to equal the number of vowel sounds (five). So syllabification would look something like "Ja‧pan‧ol‧o‧gy".

    Though frankly, it seems that there are a whole bunch of rules for syllabification that I either was never taught in school or have thoroughly forgot.

    Dropping some linguistics-related tags below to see if I can nerd-snipe anybody into providing more authoritative and/or helpful commentary.

    #english #grammar #syntax #morphology #phonology #linguistics

  13. @wikidata Cool tool! However, I find myself confused on the hyphenation tasks. I thought that hyphenation and syllabification were two different things. I thought that hyphenation was a typography concern and syllabification was related to phonology. But the hyphenation task references this hyphenation property:

    wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P52

    which defines hyphenation as "positions where a word can be hyphenated" and yet, in the "also known as" column, includes the term "syllabification".

    Which is it?

    For example, the word "Japanology".

    For hyphenation, I would leave "ology" as a phonological suffix, and the only hyphen would be between "Japan" and "ology". "Japan‧ology". I've always heard that hyphenation is more a matter of taste than a strict set of rules.

    But for syllabification, I would want the number of syllables to equal the number of vowel sounds (five). So syllabification would look something like "Ja‧pan‧ol‧o‧gy".

    Though frankly, it seems that there are a whole bunch of rules for syllabification that I either was never taught in school or have thoroughly forgot.

    Dropping some linguistics-related tags below to see if I can nerd-snipe anybody into providing more authoritative and/or helpful commentary.

    #english #grammar #syntax #morphology #phonology #linguistics

  14. @wikidata Cool tool! However, I find myself confused on the hyphenation tasks. I thought that hyphenation and syllabification were two different things. I thought that hyphenation was a typography concern and syllabification was related to phonology. But the hyphenation task references this hyphenation property:

    wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P52

    which defines hyphenation as "positions where a word can be hyphenated" and yet, in the "also known as" column, includes the term "syllabification".

    Which is it?

    For example, the word "Japanology".

    For hyphenation, I would leave "ology" as a phonological suffix, and the only hyphen would be between "Japan" and "ology". "Japan‧ology". I've always heard that hyphenation is more a matter of taste than a strict set of rules.

    But for syllabification, I would want the number of syllables to equal the number of vowel sounds (five). So syllabification would look something like "Ja‧pan‧ol‧o‧gy".

    Though frankly, it seems that there are a whole bunch of rules for syllabification that I either was never taught in school or have thoroughly forgot.

    Dropping some linguistics-related tags below to see if I can nerd-snipe anybody into providing more authoritative and/or helpful commentary.

    #english #grammar #syntax #morphology #phonology #linguistics

  15. While eavesdropping on Japanese language study material that someone else in the household is playing, I keep hearing word-initial [ts] (or something similar, but definitely an affricate) instead of word-initial [s] (which I have been assured is the correct pronunciation).

    Is there a process in Japanese which causes word-initial [s] to resemble [ts] after a glottal stop at a word boundary, before a voiceless vowel, or in some other environment?

    #phonology #linguistics #japanese

  16. While eavesdropping on Japanese language study material that someone else in the household is playing, I keep hearing word-initial [ts] (or something similar, but definitely an affricate) instead of word-initial [s] (which I have been assured is the correct pronunciation).

    Is there a process in Japanese which causes word-initial [s] to resemble [ts] after a glottal stop at a word boundary, before a voiceless vowel, or in some other environment?

    #phonology #linguistics #japanese

  17. While eavesdropping on Japanese language study material that someone else in the household is playing, I keep hearing word-initial [ts] (or something similar, but definitely an affricate) instead of word-initial [s] (which I have been assured is the correct pronunciation).

    Is there a process in Japanese which causes word-initial [s] to resemble [ts] after a glottal stop at a word boundary, before a voiceless vowel, or in some other environment?

    #phonology #linguistics #japanese

  18. While eavesdropping on Japanese language study material that someone else in the household is playing, I keep hearing word-initial [ts] (or something similar, but definitely an affricate) instead of word-initial [s] (which I have been assured is the correct pronunciation).

    Is there a process in Japanese which causes word-initial [s] to resemble [ts] after a glottal stop at a word boundary, before a voiceless vowel, or in some other environment?

    #phonology #linguistics #japanese

  19. @winbuzzer
    “Unlike traditional ASR systems that require extensive fine-tuning, Omnilingual ASR introduces a novel “Bring Your Own Language” feature. This capability, inspired by large language models, allows users to add support for entirely new languages by providing just a handful of paired audio and text samples.”

    Magical thinking, so I'm suspecting hype. A handful of paired samples is not enough data to correctly work out the phonological system of any language. (I used to teach how to do that, with a new language every year.) So I assume it's just transcribing into some generic alphabet (which is certainly possible), without regard to the actual pattern of the language in question. Like using Italian spelling to write down !Xhosa?

    Their contribution to data on under-represented languages is welcome, though.

    #linguistics #phonology

  20. @winbuzzer
    “Unlike traditional ASR systems that require extensive fine-tuning, Omnilingual ASR introduces a novel “Bring Your Own Language” feature. This capability, inspired by large language models, allows users to add support for entirely new languages by providing just a handful of paired audio and text samples.”

    Magical thinking, so I'm suspecting hype. A handful of paired samples is not enough data to correctly work out the phonological system of any language. (I used to teach how to do that, with a new language every year.) So I assume it's just transcribing into some generic alphabet (which is certainly possible), without regard to the actual pattern of the language in question. Like using Italian spelling to write down !Xhosa?

    Their contribution to data on under-represented languages is welcome, though.

    #linguistics #phonology

  21. @winbuzzer
    “Unlike traditional ASR systems that require extensive fine-tuning, Omnilingual ASR introduces a novel “Bring Your Own Language” feature. This capability, inspired by large language models, allows users to add support for entirely new languages by providing just a handful of paired audio and text samples.”

    Magical thinking, so I'm suspecting hype. A handful of paired samples is not enough data to correctly work out the phonological system of any language. (I used to teach how to do that, with a new language every year.) So I assume it's just transcribing into some generic alphabet (which is certainly possible), without regard to the actual pattern of the language in question. Like using Italian spelling to write down !Xhosa?

    Their contribution to data on under-represented languages is welcome, though.

    #linguistics #phonology

  22. @winbuzzer
    “Unlike traditional ASR systems that require extensive fine-tuning, Omnilingual ASR introduces a novel “Bring Your Own Language” feature. This capability, inspired by large language models, allows users to add support for entirely new languages by providing just a handful of paired audio and text samples.”

    Magical thinking, so I'm suspecting hype. A handful of paired samples is not enough data to correctly work out the phonological system of any language. (I used to teach how to do that, with a new language every year.) So I assume it's just transcribing into some generic alphabet (which is certainly possible), without regard to the actual pattern of the language in question. Like using Italian spelling to write down !Xhosa?

    Their contribution to data on under-represented languages is welcome, though.

    #linguistics #phonology

  23. This question will plague me for the rest of my life. #Phonology

  24. This question will plague me for the rest of my life. #Phonology

  25. This question will plague me for the rest of my life. #Phonology

  26. This question will plague me for the rest of my life. #Phonology

  27. @transitionalaspect I think for most speakers it's just the way they learned to pronounce the word, but for some it might be an example of dissimulation - they feel that they're not doing it right if they don't have their tongues in two different places!

    #linguistics #phonology

  28. @transitionalaspect I think for most speakers it's just the way they learned to pronounce the word, but for some it might be an example of dissimulation - they feel that they're not doing it right if they don't have their tongues in two different places!

    #linguistics #phonology

  29. @transitionalaspect I think for most speakers it's just the way they learned to pronounce the word, but for some it might be an example of dissimulation - they feel that they're not doing it right if they don't have their tongues in two different places!

    #linguistics #phonology

  30. @transitionalaspect I think for most speakers it's just the way they learned to pronounce the word, but for some it might be an example of dissimulation - they feel that they're not doing it right if they don't have their tongues in two different places!

    #linguistics #phonology

  31. One of my phonological pet peeves is people calling palatalized consonants "palatal".
    If someone tried to call velarized consonants velar, people would immediately start asking "you mean velarized?".
    I'm not sure what is it that makes people say that because palatal consonants aren't uncommon at all: 'y' as in 'you' is a voiced palatal approximant in English.
    For added irony, many languages where palatalization is semantically or grammatically significant absolutely do have palatal consonants, like the slender 'dh' in Modern Irish or j/й in Slavic languages, so frequently-heard statements like "nominative plurals of first declension Irish nouns end in palatal consonants" aren't merely terminologically sloppy — they are factually wrong (they typically end in palatalized occlusives, and Irish has no palatal occlusives, only approximants).

    #linguistics #phonology

  32. One of my phonological pet peeves is people calling palatalized consonants "palatal".
    If someone tried to call velarized consonants velar, people would immediately start asking "you mean velarized?".
    I'm not sure what is it that makes people say that because palatal consonants aren't uncommon at all: 'y' as in 'you' is a voiced palatal approximant in English.
    For added irony, many languages where palatalization is semantically or grammatically significant absolutely do have palatal consonants, like the slender 'dh' in Modern Irish or j/й in Slavic languages, so frequently-heard statements like "nominative plurals of first declension Irish nouns end in palatal consonants" aren't merely terminologically sloppy — they are factually wrong (they typically end in palatalized occlusives, and Irish has no palatal occlusives, only approximants).

    #linguistics #phonology

  33. One of my phonological pet peeves is people calling palatalized consonants "palatal".
    If someone tried to call velarized consonants velar, people would immediately start asking "you mean velarized?".
    I'm not sure what is it that makes people say that because palatal consonants aren't uncommon at all: 'y' as in 'you' is a voiced palatal approximant in English.
    For added irony, many languages where palatalization is semantically or grammatically significant absolutely do have palatal consonants, like the slender 'dh' in Modern Irish or j/й in Slavic languages, so frequently-heard statements like "nominative plurals of first declension Irish nouns end in palatal consonants" aren't merely terminologically sloppy — they are factually wrong (they typically end in palatalized occlusives, and Irish has no palatal occlusives, only approximants).

    #linguistics #phonology

  34. One of my phonological pet peeves is people calling palatalized consonants "palatal".
    If someone tried to call velarized consonants velar, people would immediately start asking "you mean velarized?".
    I'm not sure what is it that makes people say that because palatal consonants aren't uncommon at all: 'y' as in 'you' is a voiced palatal approximant in English.
    For added irony, many languages where palatalization is semantically or grammatically significant absolutely do have palatal consonants, like the slender 'dh' in Modern Irish or j/й in Slavic languages, so frequently-heard statements like "nominative plurals of first declension Irish nouns end in palatal consonants" aren't merely terminologically sloppy — they are factually wrong (they typically end in palatalized occlusives, and Irish has no palatal occlusives, only approximants).

    #linguistics #phonology

  35. Norman and Middle French used to pronounce lots of those letters and syllables that are now silent or maybe just implied in modern French.

    So modern French is basically Puerto Rican French, is what I'm getting. Francés #Boricua, if you will.

    #language #drift #phonology #linguistics #DontKillTheMessenger #JustAskingQuestions #puertorico

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_F

  36. Norman and Middle French used to pronounce lots of those letters and syllables that are now silent or maybe just implied in modern French.

    So modern French is basically Puerto Rican French, is what I'm getting. Francés #Boricua, if you will.

    #language #drift #phonology #linguistics #DontKillTheMessenger #JustAskingQuestions #puertorico

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_F

  37. Norman and Middle French used to pronounce lots of those letters and syllables that are now silent or maybe just implied in modern French.

    So modern French is basically Puerto Rican French, is what I'm getting. Francés #Boricua, if you will.

    #language #drift #phonology #linguistics #DontKillTheMessenger #JustAskingQuestions #puertorico

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_F

  38. Norman and Middle French used to pronounce lots of those letters and syllables that are now silent or maybe just implied in modern French.

    So modern French is basically Puerto Rican French, is what I'm getting. Francés #Boricua, if you will.

    #language #drift #phonology #linguistics #DontKillTheMessenger #JustAskingQuestions #puertorico

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_F

  39. My first grader and I have been playing language games. If you look at that very first card in the top-left, that's the key. All the sounds you need to transcribe American English. Then we gave each sound a number and made up our own alphabets!

    The "game" part was that we'd write each other secret messages using one alphabet or the other and then try to decode them.

    Anyway, hapiy noow yiyr!

    #linguistics #teaching #phonology #writing #spelling

  40. My first grader and I have been playing language games. If you look at that very first card in the top-left, that's the key. All the sounds you need to transcribe American English. Then we gave each sound a number and made up our own alphabets!

    The "game" part was that we'd write each other secret messages using one alphabet or the other and then try to decode them.

    Anyway, hapiy noow yiyr!

    #linguistics #teaching #phonology #writing #spelling

  41. My first grader and I have been playing language games. If you look at that very first card in the top-left, that's the key. All the sounds you need to transcribe American English. Then we gave each sound a number and made up our own alphabets!

    The "game" part was that we'd write each other secret messages using one alphabet or the other and then try to decode them.

    Anyway, hapiy noow yiyr!

    #linguistics #teaching #phonology #writing #spelling

  42. My first grader and I have been playing language games. If you look at that very first card in the top-left, that's the key. All the sounds you need to transcribe American English. Then we gave each sound a number and made up our own alphabets!

    The "game" part was that we'd write each other secret messages using one alphabet or the other and then try to decode them.

    Anyway, hapiy noow yiyr!

    #linguistics #teaching #phonology #writing #spelling

  43. If you're looking for a great #linguistics and #neuroscience read before the break, look no further! In our new paper, we show that the prosodic hierarchy (a pillar of theory in #phonology and #phonetics) is actually neurally implemented during the comprehension of speech. doi.org/10.1093/cercor/bhae479

  44. If you're looking for a great #linguistics and #neuroscience read before the break, look no further! In our new paper, we show that the prosodic hierarchy (a pillar of theory in #phonology and #phonetics) is actually neurally implemented during the comprehension of speech. doi.org/10.1093/cercor/bhae479

  45. If you're looking for a great #linguistics and #neuroscience read before the break, look no further! In our new paper, we show that the prosodic hierarchy (a pillar of theory in #phonology and #phonetics) is actually neurally implemented during the comprehension of speech. doi.org/10.1093/cercor/bhae479

  46. Today's mini-survey: do you pronounce the 'o' in “marathon” and “telethon” the same or different? (and where are you from, if you wish to divulge)

    (My prediction hidden in reply to this post.)

    #phonetics #phonology #linguistics