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Every decade or so (first with YUM, then DNF, then DNF5) I end up filing roughly the same set of issues around RPM packages cache management vs GNOME Software and PackageKit (i.e.: caches don't keep themselves tidy enough and my operating system partition fills up), but I think this time there is probably just one remaining issue I encountered and reported: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2831
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Every decade or so (first with YUM, then DNF, then DNF5) I end up filing roughly the same set of issues around RPM packages cache management vs GNOME Software and PackageKit (i.e.: caches don't keep themselves tidy enough and my operating system partition fills up), but I think this time there is probably just one remaining issue I encountered and reported: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2831
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Every decade or so (first with YUM, then DNF, then DNF5) I end up filing roughly the same set of issues around RPM packages cache management vs GNOME Software and PackageKit (i.e.: caches don't keep themselves tidy enough and my operating system partition fills up), but I think this time there is probably just one remaining issue I encountered and reported: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2831
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Every decade or so (first with YUM, then DNF, then DNF5) I end up filing roughly the same set of issues around RPM packages cache management vs GNOME Software and PackageKit (i.e.: caches don't keep themselves tidy enough and my operating system partition fills up), but I think this time there is probably just one remaining issue I encountered and reported: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2831
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Every decade or so (first with YUM, then DNF, then DNF5) I end up filing roughly the same set of issues around RPM packages cache management vs GNOME Software and PackageKit (i.e.: caches don't keep themselves tidy enough and my operating system partition fills up), but I think this time there is probably just one remaining issue I encountered and reported: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/2831
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Après une installation toute propre de #Fedora, si vous voulez utiliser #LibreOffice, n'oubliez surtout pas d'installer le pack d'internationalisation français (en fait la langue par défaut de votre session) avant ou ça risque de partir en cacahuètes 😃
sudo dnf install libreoffice-langpack-fr
(En fait, si #GnomeSoftware fonctionne bien, il vous le proposera, mais là comme j'ai le bug décrit dans le pouet précédent...)
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Après une installation toute propre de #Fedora, si vous voulez utiliser #LibreOffice, n'oubliez surtout pas d'installer le pack d'internationalisation français (en fait la langue par défaut de votre session) avant ou ça risque de partir en cacahuètes 😃
sudo dnf install libreoffice-langpack-fr
(En fait, si #GnomeSoftware fonctionne bien, il vous le proposera, mais là comme j'ai le bug décrit dans le pouet précédent...)
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Après une installation toute propre de #Fedora, si vous voulez utiliser #LibreOffice, n'oubliez surtout pas d'installer le pack d'internationalisation français (en fait la langue par défaut de votre session) avant ou ça risque de partir en cacahuètes 😃
sudo dnf install libreoffice-langpack-fr
(En fait, si #GnomeSoftware fonctionne bien, il vous le proposera, mais là comme j'ai le bug décrit dans le pouet précédent...)
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Si, comme moi, vous avez #GnomeSoftware qui prend 5 min à charger les données, où si l'extinction du pc met elle aussi 5 min, c'est sans doute à cause de dnf5daemon-server.
En l'occurrence dans mon cas c'est la vérification gpg d'un des 2 repos tiers que j'ai déclaré : #vscodium ou #librewolf (très certainement ce dernier vu les alertes lors de la mise à jour)
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Si, comme moi, vous avez #GnomeSoftware qui prend 5 min à charger les données, où si l'extinction du pc met elle aussi 5 min, c'est sans doute à cause de dnf5daemon-server.
En l'occurrence dans mon cas c'est la vérification gpg d'un des 2 repos tiers que j'ai déclaré : #vscodium ou #librewolf (très certainement ce dernier vu les alertes lors de la mise à jour)
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Si, comme moi, vous avez #GnomeSoftware qui prend 5 min à charger les données, où si l'extinction du pc met elle aussi 5 min, c'est sans doute à cause de dnf5daemon-server.
En l'occurrence dans mon cas c'est la vérification gpg d'un des 2 repos tiers que j'ai déclaré : #vscodium ou #librewolf (très certainement ce dernier vu les alertes lors de la mise à jour)
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Fico meio indignado como tudo o que envolve o Gnome Shell é meio podre. A interface quer ser a cara do Linux e concordo que o trabalho de padronização de design dos softwares que fazem parte do Gnome Circle está indo muito bem, porém no que diz respeito à funcionalidade... p*ta que pariu.
Primeiro que é impossível ser produtivo sem usar extensões criadas pelos usuários. Tente usar o Gnome "vanilla", sem nenhum extra instalado. Deus me livre.
Depois temos alguns programas oficiais que não cumprem a tarefa pela qual foram concebidos. Veja por exemplo a loja de software oficial: a semanas não aparecem os ícones dos aplicativos. Tive que instalar o excelente aplicativo Bazaar, que dá um pau em todos os sentidos na loja do Gnome.
Ir pra o KDE (aquela interface "bloated")? Jamais. Usuários Linux fazem questão demais de customizar suas áreas de trabalho ao invés de utilizar como vem por padrão. Não vemos usuários de Mac ou Windows perdendo tempo com isso. Outro ponto que me fez sair do KDE é a incapacidade dos aplicativos oficiais de agenda de conectarem à conta do Google. Testei em 2025 com o Debian 13 e o KDE Neon, e nada de funcionar.
É pra acabar...
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Fico meio indignado como tudo o que envolve o Gnome Shell é meio podre. A interface quer ser a cara do Linux e concordo que o trabalho de padronização de design dos softwares que fazem parte do Gnome Circle está indo muito bem, porém no que diz respeito à funcionalidade... p*ta que pariu.
Primeiro que é impossível ser produtivo sem usar extensões criadas pelos usuários. Tente usar o Gnome "vanilla", sem nenhum extra instalado. Deus me livre.
Depois temos alguns programas oficiais que não cumprem a tarefa pela qual foram concebidos. Veja por exemplo a loja de software oficial: a semanas não aparecem os ícones dos aplicativos. Tive que instalar o excelente aplicativo Bazaar, que dá um pau em todos os sentidos na loja do Gnome.
Ir pra o KDE (aquela interface "bloated")? Jamais. Usuários Linux fazem questão demais de customizar suas áreas de trabalho ao invés de utilizar como vem por padrão. Não vemos usuários de Mac ou Windows perdendo tempo com isso. Outro ponto que me fez sair do KDE é a incapacidade dos aplicativos oficiais de agenda de conectarem à conta do Google. Testei em 2025 com o Debian 13 e o KDE Neon, e nada de funcionar.
É pra acabar...
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Fico meio indignado como tudo o que envolve o Gnome Shell é meio podre. A interface quer ser a cara do Linux e concordo que o trabalho de padronização de design dos softwares que fazem parte do Gnome Circle está indo muito bem, porém no que diz respeito à funcionalidade... p*ta que pariu.
Primeiro que é impossível ser produtivo sem usar extensões criadas pelos usuários. Tente usar o Gnome "vanilla", sem nenhum extra instalado. Deus me livre.
Depois temos alguns programas oficiais que não cumprem a tarefa pela qual foram concebidos. Veja por exemplo a loja de software oficial: a semanas não aparecem os ícones dos aplicativos. Tive que instalar o excelente aplicativo Bazaar, que dá um pau em todos os sentidos na loja do Gnome.
Ir pra o KDE (aquela interface "bloated")? Jamais. Usuários Linux fazem questão demais de customizar suas áreas de trabalho ao invés de utilizar como vem por padrão. Não vemos usuários de Mac ou Windows perdendo tempo com isso. Outro ponto que me fez sair do KDE é a incapacidade dos aplicativos oficiais de agenda de conectarem à conta do Google. Testei em 2025 com o Debian 13 e o KDE Neon, e nada de funcionar.
É pra acabar...
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This time the upgrade was successful. Note to me: don’t trust GNOME software to do the upgrade correctly.
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This time the upgrade was successful. Note to me: don’t trust GNOME software to do the upgrade correctly.
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This time the upgrade was successful. Note to me: don’t trust GNOME software to do the upgrade correctly.
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This time the upgrade was successful. Note to me: don’t trust GNOME software to do the upgrade correctly.
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Pro Tip™ from @pwithnall for #FreeDesktop app developers: if you want your application to be easily found in the GNOME Software app center store, you need to add "keyword" metadata fields to complement your app's name and tagline. The "description" metadata field is not used for searching!
Some examples:
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/merge_requests/665
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/205
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/2132224
* https://github.com/flathub/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice/issues/355 -
Pro Tip™ from @pwithnall for #FreeDesktop app developers: if you want your application to be easily found in the GNOME Software app center store, you need to add "keyword" metadata fields to complement your app's name and tagline. The "description" metadata field is not used for searching!
Some examples:
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/merge_requests/665
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/205
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/2132224
* https://github.com/flathub/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice/issues/355 -
Pro Tip™ from @pwithnall for #FreeDesktop app developers: if you want your application to be easily found in the GNOME Software app center store, you need to add "keyword" metadata fields to complement your app's name and tagline. The "description" metadata field is not used for searching!
Some examples:
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/merge_requests/665
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/205
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/2132224
* https://github.com/flathub/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice/issues/355 -
Pro Tip™ from @pwithnall for #FreeDesktop app developers: if you want your application to be easily found in the GNOME Software app center store, you need to add "keyword" metadata fields to complement your app's name and tagline. The "description" metadata field is not used for searching!
Some examples:
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/merge_requests/665
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/205
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/2132224
* https://github.com/flathub/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice/issues/355 -
Pro Tip™ from @pwithnall for #FreeDesktop app developers: if you want your application to be easily found in the GNOME Software app center store, you need to add "keyword" metadata fields to complement your app's name and tagline. The "description" metadata field is not used for searching!
Some examples:
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/merge_requests/665
* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/merge_requests/205
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/homebank/+bug/2132224
* https://github.com/flathub/org.libreoffice.LibreOffice/issues/355 -
So, what's going on when Gnome Software says there's 2 runtime-thingies available for update, while Bazaar says there's 5? And when I do the 2 in Software, Bazaar says there's now suddenly just 1?
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So, what's going on when Gnome Software says there's 2 runtime-thingies available for update, while Bazaar says there's 5? And when I do the 2 in Software, Bazaar says there's now suddenly just 1?
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So, what's going on when Gnome Software says there's 2 runtime-thingies available for update, while Bazaar says there's 5? And when I do the 2 in Software, Bazaar says there's now suddenly just 1?
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So, what's going on when Gnome Software says there's 2 runtime-thingies available for update, while Bazaar says there's 5? And when I do the 2 in Software, Bazaar says there's now suddenly just 1?
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So, what's going on when Gnome Software says there's 2 runtime-thingies available for update, while Bazaar says there's 5? And when I do the 2 in Software, Bazaar says there's now suddenly just 1?
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"This is not happening, please stop demanding my time to re-explain decisions which have already been made."
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2909#note_2589143
Where is that explained?
Not here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1817#note_1494467
For my understanding that is not a real explanation.
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"This is not happening, please stop demanding my time to re-explain decisions which have already been made."
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2909#note_2589143
Where is that explained?
Not here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1817#note_1494467
For my understanding that is not a real explanation.
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"This is not happening, please stop demanding my time to re-explain decisions which have already been made."
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2909#note_2589143
Where is that explained?
Not here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1817#note_1494467
For my understanding that is not a real explanation.
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"This is not happening, please stop demanding my time to re-explain decisions which have already been made."
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2909#note_2589143
Where is that explained?
Not here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1817#note_1494467
For my understanding that is not a real explanation.
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"This is not happening, please stop demanding my time to re-explain decisions which have already been made."
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2909#note_2589143
Where is that explained?
Not here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1817#note_1494467
For my understanding that is not a real explanation.
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@VildaVedo AFAIK, this is not specific to fedora, but the way #GnomeSoftware handle system updates. I have the same behavior if I update system packages via Gnome Software in #debian, and it’s also the behaviour in #SolusLinux since they migrated to Gnome Software.
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@VildaVedo AFAIK, this is not specific to fedora, but the way #GnomeSoftware handle system updates. I have the same behavior if I update system packages via Gnome Software in #debian, and it’s also the behaviour in #SolusLinux since they migrated to Gnome Software.
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Hey, seems to me like someone has done some great work on Gnome Software lately!
On my 49.beta-42 now, I'm actually able to launch a newly installed app before the screen reloads! And it reloads much faster than before!
No idea why it still reloads at all, though, but hey, I appreciate the improvement! Thanks, hackers!
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Hey, seems to me like someone has done some great work on Gnome Software lately!
On my 49.beta-42 now, I'm actually able to launch a newly installed app before the screen reloads! And it reloads much faster than before!
No idea why it still reloads at all, though, but hey, I appreciate the improvement! Thanks, hackers!
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Hey, seems to me like someone has done some great work on Gnome Software lately!
On my 49.beta-42 now, I'm actually able to launch a newly installed app before the screen reloads! And it reloads much faster than before!
No idea why it still reloads at all, though, but hey, I appreciate the improvement! Thanks, hackers!
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Hey, seems to me like someone has done some great work on Gnome Software lately!
On my 49.beta-42 now, I'm actually able to launch a newly installed app before the screen reloads! And it reloads much faster than before!
No idea why it still reloads at all, though, but hey, I appreciate the improvement! Thanks, hackers!
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Hey, seems to me like someone has done some great work on Gnome Software lately!
On my 49.beta-42 now, I'm actually able to launch a newly installed app before the screen reloads! And it reloads much faster than before!
No idea why it still reloads at all, though, but hey, I appreciate the improvement! Thanks, hackers!
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I was hoping to see that sort of functionality directly in #GNOMESoftware when applying system updates that don't touch the kernel, but it seems some piece of the puzzle is missing here (maybe a hybrid of #systemd's "soft-reboot" and #DNF's "system-upgrade"): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2427
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I was hoping to see that sort of functionality directly in #GNOMESoftware when applying system updates that don't touch the kernel, but it seems some piece of the puzzle is missing here (maybe a hybrid of #systemd's "soft-reboot" and #DNF's "system-upgrade"): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2427
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I was hoping to see that sort of functionality directly in #GNOMESoftware when applying system updates that don't touch the kernel, but it seems some piece of the puzzle is missing here (maybe a hybrid of #systemd's "soft-reboot" and #DNF's "system-upgrade"): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2427
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I was hoping to see that sort of functionality directly in #GNOMESoftware when applying system updates that don't touch the kernel, but it seems some piece of the puzzle is missing here (maybe a hybrid of #systemd's "soft-reboot" and #DNF's "system-upgrade"): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2427
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I was hoping to see that sort of functionality directly in #GNOMESoftware when applying system updates that don't touch the kernel, but it seems some piece of the puzzle is missing here (maybe a hybrid of #systemd's "soft-reboot" and #DNF's "system-upgrade"): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/2427
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@razze If you have #gnomeos, can you please try adding the #flathub repo with the #floss subset using a #flatpakrepo file?
On fedora 42 with #gnomesoftware 48.3, it adds the entire unfiltered repo, while adding it on the command line works.
The point is to create an easy way for nontechies to add flathub-floss by just opening a flatpakrepo file in gnome software, without using the terminal.
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@razze If you have #gnomeos, can you please try adding the #flathub repo with the #floss subset using a #flatpakrepo file?
On fedora 42 with #gnomesoftware 48.3, it adds the entire unfiltered repo, while adding it on the command line works.
The point is to create an easy way for nontechies to add flathub-floss by just opening a flatpakrepo file in gnome software, without using the terminal.
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@razze If you have #gnomeos, can you please try adding the #flathub repo with the #floss subset using a #flatpakrepo file?
On fedora 42 with #gnomesoftware 48.3, it adds the entire unfiltered repo, while adding it on the command line works.
The point is to create an easy way for nontechies to add flathub-floss by just opening a flatpakrepo file in gnome software, without using the terminal.
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@razze If you have #gnomeos, can you please try adding the #flathub repo with the #floss subset using a #flatpakrepo file?
On fedora 42 with #gnomesoftware 48.3, it adds the entire unfiltered repo, while adding it on the command line works.
The point is to create an easy way for nontechies to add flathub-floss by just opening a flatpakrepo file in gnome software, without using the terminal.
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@razze If you have #gnomeos, can you please try adding the #flathub repo with the #floss subset using a #flatpakrepo file?
On fedora 42 with #gnomesoftware 48.3, it adds the entire unfiltered repo, while adding it on the command line works.
The point is to create an easy way for nontechies to add flathub-floss by just opening a flatpakrepo file in gnome software, without using the terminal.
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Nothing personally against #Bazaar, but it needs lot of work on the UX side of things.
Feature parity doesn't mean nothing if when I install an app from search the app disrupts the search.
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Nothing personally against #Bazaar, but it needs lot of work on the UX side of things.
Feature parity doesn't mean nothing if when I install an app from search the app disrupts the search.
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Nothing personally against #Bazaar, but it needs lot of work on the UX side of things.
Feature parity doesn't mean nothing if when I install an app from search the app disrupts the search.
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Nothing personally against #Bazaar, but it needs lot of work on the UX side of things.
Feature parity doesn't mean nothing if when I install an app from search the app disrupts the search.
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Nothing personally against #Bazaar, but it needs lot of work on the UX side of things.
Feature parity doesn't mean nothing if when I install an app from search the app disrupts the search.
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@tokyo_0 @abhijith @fossunleashed @llutz @zenbrowser (3/5)
To check the memory I used `sudo memtester 1024 5`. And EVERYTHING was fine. Even when I turned on the #wifi nothing changed. I opened the #gnomesoftware app, I also opened #firefox to browse #youtube and log in to this instance. Everything was fine.
#ZenBrowser #linux #fedora #fedora42 #gnome #mastodon #btrfs #fediverse
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Very excited by the upcoming #GNOMESoftware release, as it solves the high RAM usage issue that occurred while in the background (it will now shrink back to ~100 MB instead of growing to multiple hundreds of MBs of RAM due to memory heap fragmentation): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/941#note_2417546
Coming to you in #GNOME 48.2 near the end of May! 😎
Thanks to Owen Chiaventone (a total newcomer to @gnome !) for profiling and providing a patch to solve the issue, & @pabloyoyoista + @pwithnall for reviewing & merging!
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Very excited by the upcoming #GNOMESoftware release, as it solves the high RAM usage issue that occurred while in the background (it will now shrink back to ~100 MB instead of growing to multiple hundreds of MBs of RAM due to memory heap fragmentation): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/941#note_2417546
Coming to you in #GNOME 48.2 near the end of May! 😎
Thanks to Owen Chiaventone (a total newcomer to @gnome !) for profiling and providing a patch to solve the issue, & @pabloyoyoista + @pwithnall for reviewing & merging!
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Very excited by the upcoming #GNOMESoftware release, as it solves the high RAM usage issue that occurred while in the background (it will now shrink back to ~100 MB instead of growing to multiple hundreds of MBs of RAM due to memory heap fragmentation): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/941#note_2417546
Coming to you in #GNOME 48.2 near the end of May! 😎
Thanks to Owen Chiaventone (a total newcomer to @gnome !) for profiling and providing a patch to solve the issue, & @pabloyoyoista + @pwithnall for reviewing & merging!
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Very excited by the upcoming #GNOMESoftware release, as it solves the high RAM usage issue that occurred while in the background (it will now shrink back to ~100 MB instead of growing to multiple hundreds of MBs of RAM due to memory heap fragmentation): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/941#note_2417546
Coming to you in #GNOME 48.2 near the end of May! 😎
Thanks to Owen Chiaventone (a total newcomer to @gnome !) for profiling and providing a patch to solve the issue, & @pabloyoyoista + @pwithnall for reviewing & merging!