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You cross a border. Your phone doesn’t notice.
No extra charges. No disruption. No second thought.
But it wasn’t always like this.
In our latest EU in Practice episode, we explore how the EU quietly removed one of the most frustrating barriers in everyday life, and what that reveals about how Europe actually works.
#EuropeanUnion
#EUPolicy
#DigitalEurope
#Roaming
#SingleMarket
#CivicEducation
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Sober second thought regarding the #BCelection2024 : the good news is that about 53% of the people that did vote were still willing to vote for nominally progressive parties, and hopefully the final seat count results in a minority government that reflects that. The bad news is that 43% of the people didn't even bother to vote. Participation rates in Canadian elections are becoming bleak. 20 years ago BC elections regularly had a 70% or better turnout.
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Sober second thought regarding the #BCelection2024 : the good news is that about 53% of the people that did vote were still willing to vote for nominally progressive parties, and hopefully the final seat count results in a minority government that reflects that. The bad news is that 43% of the people didn't even bother to vote. Participation rates in Canadian elections are becoming bleak. 20 years ago BC elections regularly had a 70% or better turnout.
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Sober second thought regarding the #BCelection2024 : the good news is that about 53% of the people that did vote were still willing to vote for nominally progressive parties, and hopefully the final seat count results in a minority government that reflects that. The bad news is that 43% of the people didn't even bother to vote. Participation rates in Canadian elections are becoming bleak. 20 years ago BC elections regularly had a 70% or better turnout.
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Sober second thought regarding the #BCelection2024 : the good news is that about 53% of the people that did vote were still willing to vote for nominally progressive parties, and hopefully the final seat count results in a minority government that reflects that. The bad news is that 43% of the people didn't even bother to vote. Participation rates in Canadian elections are becoming bleak. 20 years ago BC elections regularly had a 70% or better turnout.
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Sober second thought regarding the #BCelection2024 : the good news is that about 53% of the people that did vote were still willing to vote for nominally progressive parties, and hopefully the final seat count results in a minority government that reflects that. The bad news is that 43% of the people didn't even bother to vote. Participation rates in Canadian elections are becoming bleak. 20 years ago BC elections regularly had a 70% or better turnout.
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"The point is that with each advance in AI, new hurdles become apparent; when one missing aspect of “intelligence” is filled in, we find ourselves bumping up against another gap. When I speculated about GPT-5 last year, it didn’t occur to me to question whether it would know how to set priorities, because the models of the time weren’t even capable enough for that to be a limiting factor. In a post from November, AI is Racing Forward – on a Very Long Road, I wrote:
…the real challenges may be things that we can’t easily anticipate right now, weaknesses that we will only start to put our finger on when we observe [future models] performing astonishing feats and yet somehow still not being able to write that tightly-plotted novel.
In April 2024, it seemed like agentic AI was going to be the next big thing. The ensuing 16 months have brought enormous progress on many fronts, but very little progress on real-world agency. With projects like AI Village shining a light on the profound weakness of current AI agents, I think robust real-world capability is still years away."
https://secondthoughts.ai/p/gpt-5-the-case-of-the-missing-agent
#AI #GenerativeAI #LLMs #Chatbots #AIAgents #AgenticAI #ReasoningModels
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Easterside: Where a German Bomber Crashed
Easterside Hill stands guard over Bilsdale, yet is all too often passed by without a second thought. Perhaps it is too familiar, or perhaps the eye is stolen by the graceful turns of the B1257.
Its striking form is no accident. A crown of Oolitic Limestone sits upon Calcareous Grit, itself resti ...
http://www.fhithich.uk/2025/09/19/easterside-where-a-german-bomber-crashed/
#Bilsdale #EastersideHill #NorthYorkMoors #Ryedale #history #WW2
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Small thought for this wet & windy Irish morning, if Jeff wants to convince non unionists to give the #Union a second thought
is attacking everything that isn't #Unionist enough, helpful! Plus calling those Unionists who disagree with you, Lundies help? Also, small point if you don't top a poll, don't hold the institutions to ransom for two years.BelfastTelegraph.co.uk: Unionists ‘must convince people across Northern Ireland of UK’s benefits
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Pop Cryptid Spectator 8
Welcome to the Pop Cryptid Spectator no. 8. This edition illustrates more examples of how cryptids are an integral part of culture, if you are in town, in the woods, on or offline.
In this edition:
- Bigfoot proposed as California’s official cryptid
- Monster Snap VR Game
- What is a “cryptoid”?
- Fakelore to folklore: The Rake
Bigfoot proposed as California’s official cryptid
The big(foot) news this week was the introduction of a bill in the California Assembly to name Bigfoot as an the official cryptid of California. On February 14, 2025, Chris Rogers (Democrat) proposed bill AB 666*:
Existing law establishes the state flag and the state’s emblems, including, among other things, the golden poppy as the official state flower and the California redwood as the official state tree.
This bill would state the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation that would designate Bigfoot as the official state cryptid.
*Bigfoot could be the “mountain or wood devil” if you are predisposed to never seeing a coincidence.
Some people didn’t respond positively to the news, noticing that California has more important things to attend to right now and in the foreseeable future. But state legislators are overly fond of such memorial acts, and regularly waste time pushing them through. California already has 42 official state symbols. Why not another one? The symbolic gestures provide recognition and anchors the symbols to the state.
Rogers’ represents the Northern part of the state that is heavily associated with Bigfoot and benefits already from the link. Humboldt County includes Bluff Creek, the location of the infamous Patterson-Gimlin film from 1967, and nearby Willow Creek, home of the huge Bigfoot Daze festival. Willow Creek was the place where Bigfoot supposedly made its historic entrance into American popular culture when in 1958, loggers found giant footprints that were reported in the local Humboldt Times, giving the unknown creature the name “Bigfoot”.
Therefore, it does make sense that Rogers’ would like to cement this notoriety. The effort clearly is intended to encourage tourism from those people who believe, or just really want to believe, the forest still hides a mysterious creature that, like some supernatural being, has remained hidden and magical. Rogers’ noted that Bigfoot “generates buzz and interest from outdoor enthusiasts,” more so than other cryptids. He’s not wrong.
Washington and Oregon, however, may have a beef about it, but there is no reason why Bigfoot can’t also be their official cryptid. Heck, Bigfoot or its relations have been reported spotted in every US state with the possible exception of Hawaii. Bigfoot is the top US, for sure.
More from SF Gate and from the SF Chronicle.
Monster Snap VR game
A new virtual reality game coming in 2026 promises to give you a chance to collect photo evidence of cryptids. Monster Snap maroons you in the Bermuda Triangle where mysterious secrets are hidden. (Gosh, this is SO OLD. But I guess having a bunch of mysterious secrets existing in a single named location is convenient.) You can also encounter Bigfoot and spot Nessie. For PC-VR and Meta Quest 2 & 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYMAgt6k8q0
What is a “cryptoid”?
If you peruse online cryptid content, you may sometimes see the term “cryptoid”. It struck me as a possibly useful term to distinguish between sci-cryptids (those viewed with a zoological lens) and the fantastical or folkloric version of cryptids (such as mermaids, dragons, shapeshifters, jackalopes, etc.). So I took a look into where the term might have come from and how it’s used.
The suffix “-oid” means “similar to” or “likeness”, giving us words like “planetoid”, “humanoid” and “factoid”. It can also be a way to make an interesting derogatory word sometimes referring to a particular ideology or group of people as in “schizoid” or “skeptoid“. Or just a fun suffix for made up things like “graboid“.
According to Loren Coleman, whom I found had addressed the question of the difference between a cryptid and a cryptoid back in 2011, he seems to think it’s mostly a mistaken attempt to mean “cryptid”. In a way, “cryptoid” works when someone is intending a humorous or monstrous description of a mystery creature. But it will be confusing if not consistently used that way.
“Cryptoid phenomena” was a term used by Emile Boirac beginning around 1918 to refer to hidden psychic abilities. Later, it also comes up as the term “cryptoID”, which can ruin your search results. But there are a few books in the 2000s that intentionally use “cryptoid” as a humorous term (as with comics or monster-related art) or simply as a strange error by self-published writers who didn’t have an editor. (Worse than that, some even more careless will use “crypoids” [sic].) Unless it’s used in a more deliberate sense, it seems to be an indicator that the user isn’t well versed on “cryptids”.
A graph of “cryptoid” use per decade. The 1920s represents the Boirac references. The use is also creeping up since the 2000s.Finallly, “Cryptoid” is an official trademarked name of a pyrethroid insecticide. (There’s the -oid again, meaning similar to the natural pesticide pyrethrum.) The trademark makes me jettison the nub of an idea to use the word to mean cryptid-like.
Hope you enjoyed this rather strange etymology lesson.
P.S. Remember the “noid“? Um, on second thought, avoid the noid.
Fakelore to folklore: The Rake
Cryptid Wiki explicitly rejects discussion on “creepypasta monsters such as slenderman, herobrine, the rake”. This is understandable as there is a flood of new creatures invented all the time. To include them would dilute the idea of cryptids. Creepypasta is related to digital transmission of fictional tales. CW also rejects outright fictional characters from books and films as well. While it’s reasonable to mark, say, Cthulhu as an inappropriate cryptid, there are many examples where it’s not easy to draw an objective line.
The Rake is the prime example of a creepypasta creature. The spark was set in motion on 4Chan and then the idea morphed from there. It was formalized, and given a fictional history, in a story from 2009 as a pale hairless humanoid, often spindly in appearance, with small sharp teeth, black voids as eyes, and an unnerving disjointed look, and highly agile way of moving on all fours.
The description and characteristics varied as the stories spread online. It was described similar to slenderman, without a defined face, watching in the background, often in suburban areas. Originally described as a “crawler”, it acquired the name “rake” a bit later and eventually was associated with shapeshifters and “fleshgaits”, as a generally unpleasant entity. It also is not that far from depictions of modern aliens. The lore has grown and evolved online and, as such, I currently can’t find a great resource for the Rake. As time goes on, you can see overlap and blending of creatures with similar features and stories (pale crawlers, skinwalker, wendigo, etc.), and these all diverge widely from the original tales. The rake continues to grow in popularity and is often listed as a cryptid.
A photo circulated widely in 2010 of a pale crawling creature framed as a “swamp monster” captured on a trail camera in Berwick, Louisiana. It was discussed (however seriously or not) as a real or hoaxed thing in the woods. At the time, my opinion was that it was a manipulated image using a digital model. In a short while, this picture became labeled as a rake and the story of the image in the swamp morphed into other tales as well.
The Berwick incident photo. A hoax that became linked to the rake.A problem arises when creepypasta or “mythical” creatures are seen by people. Long ago, people swore to having real experiences with fairies and dragons. Today, we have many people attesting that they see werewolves (often in the form of dogmen). There is a popular suggestion that fictional beings are thought into existence; that is, since so many people hear about them and visualize them, they manifest themselves into our reality. This is also known as the tulpa origin of cryptids.
The fictional origins of creepypasta monsters can get lost if they are removed from their original context and are mistaken for genuine eyewitness stories. This video embedded below is a good rundown of the history of the rake, though I have not confirmed the details and dates. (They do sound right, but you might want to ignore most of the visuals.) Also, the title portrays the rake as the “first Internet cryptid” – eh, I’m not buying that as the chupacabra from 1992 and others since may more rightly deserves that title. It is a good explanation of why it’s can be difficult to differentiate the rake as a cryptid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x7k4hjDBwU
People claim to encounter the rake, even though it’s fiction. It is unclear if they are telling what they think is the truth or just playing along in a shared manufactured reality. The phenomenon of creepypasta creatures showing up in the real world seems similar to the true story of a made-up April Fools song on a Michigan radio station in 1987 that resulted in a wave of stories from the past and continuing today about the Dogman.
Where can we draw the line for when a fictional creature can exist under the “cryptid” label? Cryptids are liminal creatures, and they deftly pass between the realms of real and fiction. The label is a dependent on the moment in time when people report, and others believe, that the creature could exist in our reality.
Thanks for reading! Send comments, questions, or suggestions to popcryptid(at)proton.me. If you want to send some cryptid plushies or other merch, or books to review, email for my physical mailing address.
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Pop Cryptid Spectator 8
Welcome to the Pop Cryptid Spectator no. 8. This edition illustrates more examples of how cryptids are an integral part of culture, if you are in town, in the woods, on or offline.
In this edition:
- Bigfoot proposed as California’s official cryptid
- Monster Snap VR Game
- What is a “cryptoid”?
- Fakelore to folklore: The Rake
Bigfoot proposed as California’s official cryptid
The big(foot) news this week was the introduction of a bill in the California Assembly to name Bigfoot as an the official cryptid of California. On February 14, 2025, Chris Rogers (Democrat) proposed bill AB 666*:
Existing law establishes the state flag and the state’s emblems, including, among other things, the golden poppy as the official state flower and the California redwood as the official state tree.
This bill would state the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation that would designate Bigfoot as the official state cryptid.
*Bigfoot could be the “mountain or wood devil” if you are predisposed to never seeing a coincidence.
Some people didn’t respond positively to the news, noticing that California has more important things to attend to right now and in the foreseeable future. But state legislators are overly fond of such memorial acts, and regularly waste time pushing them through. California already has 42 official state symbols. Why not another one? The symbolic gestures provide recognition and anchors the symbols to the state.
Rogers’ represents the Northern part of the state that is heavily associated with Bigfoot and benefits already from the link. Humboldt County includes Bluff Creek, the location of the infamous Patterson-Gimlin film from 1967, and nearby Willow Creek, home of the huge Bigfoot Daze festival. Willow Creek was the place where Bigfoot supposedly made its historic entrance into American popular culture when in 1958, loggers found giant footprints that were reported in the local Humboldt Times, giving the unknown creature the name “Bigfoot”.
Therefore, it does make sense that Rogers’ would like to cement this notoriety. The effort clearly is intended to encourage tourism from those people who believe, or just really want to believe, the forest still hides a mysterious creature that, like some supernatural being, has remained hidden and magical. Rogers’ noted that Bigfoot “generates buzz and interest from outdoor enthusiasts,” more so than other cryptids. He’s not wrong.
Washington and Oregon, however, may have a beef about it, but there is no reason why Bigfoot can’t also be their official cryptid. Heck, Bigfoot or its relations have been reported spotted in every US state with the possible exception of Hawaii. Bigfoot is the top US, for sure.
More from SF Gate and from the SF Chronicle.
Monster Snap VR game
A new virtual reality game coming in 2026 promises to give you a chance to collect photo evidence of cryptids. Monster Snap maroons you in the Bermuda Triangle where mysterious secrets are hidden. (Gosh, this is SO OLD. But I guess having a bunch of mysterious secrets existing in a single named location is convenient.) You can also encounter Bigfoot and spot Nessie. For PC-VR and Meta Quest 2 & 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYMAgt6k8q0
What is a “cryptoid”?
If you peruse online cryptid content, you may sometimes see the term “cryptoid”. It struck me as a possibly useful term to distinguish between sci-cryptids (those viewed with a zoological lens) and the fantastical or folkloric version of cryptids (such as mermaids, dragons, shapeshifters, jackalopes, etc.). So I took a look into where the term might have come from and how it’s used.
The suffix “-oid” means “similar to” or “likeness”, giving us words like “planetoid”, “humanoid” and “factoid”. It can also be a way to make an interesting derogatory word sometimes referring to a particular ideology or group of people as in “schizoid” or “skeptoid“. Or just a fun suffix for made up things like “graboid“.
According to Loren Coleman, whom I found had addressed the question of the difference between a cryptid and a cryptoid back in 2011, he seems to think it’s mostly a mistaken attempt to mean “cryptid”. In a way, “cryptoid” works when someone is intending a humorous or monstrous description of a mystery creature. But it will be confusing if not consistently used that way.
“Cryptoid phenomena” was a term used by Emile Boirac beginning around 1918 to refer to hidden psychic abilities. Later, it also comes up as the term “cryptoID”, which can ruin your search results. But there are a few books in the 2000s that intentionally use “cryptoid” as a humorous term (as with comics or monster-related art) or simply as a strange error by self-published writers who didn’t have an editor. (Worse than that, some even more careless will use “crypoids” [sic].) Unless it’s used in a more deliberate sense, it seems to be an indicator that the user isn’t well versed on “cryptids”.
A graph of “cryptoid” use per decade. The 1920s represents the Boirac references. The use is also creeping up since the 2000s.Finallly, “Cryptoid” is an official trademarked name of a pyrethroid insecticide. (There’s the -oid again, meaning similar to the natural pesticide pyrethrum.) The trademark makes me jettison the nub of an idea to use the word to mean cryptid-like.
Hope you enjoyed this rather strange etymology lesson.
P.S. Remember the “noid“? Um, on second thought, avoid the noid.
Fakelore to folklore: The Rake
Cryptid Wiki explicitly rejects discussion on “creepypasta monsters such as slenderman, herobrine, the rake”. This is understandable as there is a flood of new creatures invented all the time. To include them would dilute the idea of cryptids. Creepypasta is related to digital transmission of fictional tales. CW also rejects outright fictional characters from books and films as well. While it’s reasonable to mark, say, Cthulhu as an inappropriate cryptid, there are many examples where it’s not easy to draw an objective line.
The Rake is the prime example of a creepypasta creature. The spark was set in motion on 4Chan and then the idea morphed from there. It was formalized, and given a fictional history, in a story from 2009 as a pale hairless humanoid, often spindly in appearance, with small sharp teeth, black voids as eyes, and an unnerving disjointed look, and highly agile way of moving on all fours.
The description and characteristics varied as the stories spread online. It was described similar to slenderman, without a defined face, watching in the background, often in suburban areas. Originally described as a “crawler”, it acquired the name “rake” a bit later and eventually was associated with shapeshifters and “fleshgaits”, as a generally unpleasant entity. It also is not that far from depictions of modern aliens. The lore has grown and evolved online and, as such, I currently can’t find a great resource for the Rake. As time goes on, you can see overlap and blending of creatures with similar features and stories (pale crawlers, skinwalker, wendigo, etc.), and these all diverge widely from the original tales. The rake continues to grow in popularity and is often listed as a cryptid.
A photo circulated widely in 2010 of a pale crawling creature framed as a “swamp monster” captured on a trail camera in Berwick, Louisiana. It was discussed (however seriously or not) as a real or hoaxed thing in the woods. At the time, my opinion was that it was a manipulated image using a digital model. In a short while, this picture became labeled as a rake and the story of the image in the swamp morphed into other tales as well.
The Berwick incident photo. A hoax that became linked to the rake.A problem arises when creepypasta or “mythical” creatures are seen by people. Long ago, people swore to having real experiences with fairies and dragons. Today, we have many people attesting that they see werewolves (often in the form of dogmen). There is a popular suggestion that fictional beings are thought into existence; that is, since so many people hear about them and visualize them, they manifest themselves into our reality. This is also known as the tulpa origin of cryptids.
The fictional origins of creepypasta monsters can get lost if they are removed from their original context and are mistaken for genuine eyewitness stories. This video embedded below is a good rundown of the history of the rake, though I have not confirmed the details and dates. (They do sound right, but you might want to ignore most of the visuals.) Also, the title portrays the rake as the “first Internet cryptid” – eh, I’m not buying that as the chupacabra from 1992 and others since may more rightly deserves that title. It is a good explanation of why it’s can be difficult to differentiate the rake as a cryptid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x7k4hjDBwU
People claim to encounter the rake, even though it’s fiction. It is unclear if they are telling what they think is the truth or just playing along in a shared manufactured reality. The phenomenon of creepypasta creatures showing up in the real world seems similar to the true story of a made-up April Fools song on a Michigan radio station in 1987 that resulted in a wave of stories from the past and continuing today about the Dogman.
Where can we draw the line for when a fictional creature can exist under the “cryptid” label? Cryptids are liminal creatures, and they deftly pass between the realms of real and fiction. The label is a dependent on the moment in time when people report, and others believe, that the creature could exist in our reality.
Thanks for reading! Send comments, questions, or suggestions to popcryptid(at)proton.me. If you want to send some cryptid plushies or other merch, or books to review, email for my physical mailing address.
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I'm not sure what to think about an #infosec company, specifically #BitSight, running a web crawler (see https://internet-census.org/) which lies in its user-agent string and doesn't provide instructions for blocking it via robots.txt (which presumably means that it ignores robots.txt).
Actually on second thought, I _am_ sure what to think about this: it's shitty behavior and suggests that BitSight is a shitty company. -
I'm not sure what to think about an #infosec company, specifically #BitSight, running a web crawler (see https://internet-census.org/) which lies in its user-agent string and doesn't provide instructions for blocking it via robots.txt (which presumably means that it ignores robots.txt).
Actually on second thought, I _am_ sure what to think about this: it's shitty behavior and suggests that BitSight is a shitty company. -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XoRsX06TgFU
Horrible Treatment of the Kidnapped
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The Secret Plan To Tank Zohran | #SecondThought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzVYqZRdng
https://piped.video/watch?v=djzVYqZRdng
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=djzVYqZRdng
#JTChapman #uspol #politics #NewYorkCityMayoralRace #NewYorkCityMayoralRace2025 #NewYorkCityMayoralElection #NewYorkCityMayoralElection2025 #ZohranMamdani
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The Shady Group Behind Project 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eeCPRD0Hgg&t=10
#news #politics #uspolitics #project2025 #trump #theheritagefoundation #secondthought
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEDGZlG_41k&t=477
#SecondThought video about the real motivations behind the US push to ban #tiktok
1. It's not controlled by American corporations
2. The algorithm can't be tweaked to support state department interests
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You know what YouTube needs? Anarchist Second Thought so people are more likely to be exposed to good political takes.
#YouTube #anarchy #anarchist #anarchism #SecondThought #politics
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The Growing Threat Of Christian Nationalism
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A life and death struggle for #Democracy
The Republican plan to install a #Dictator into the Whitehouse.
#Fascism #project2025 #USpol #SecondThought
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We Need To Talk About "Authoritarianism" - Second Thought
Second Thought on authoritarianism, what it means and how we use the word. We can all think of countries with authoritarian regimes, but could the US be just as authoritarian?
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Enjoyed this video, but is it correct?
@johnquiggin #DebtCeiling #SecondThought
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Can There Be #Innovation Under #Socialism?
Capitalism made the iPhone? Actually, no. Capitalism sold the iPhone, but only after state regulated innovation.
A video by #SecondThought
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The Secret Marxist Conspiracy
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This Is Why You're Poor
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Why Is There So Much Right-Wing Media?
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“If engineers can build a 10-lane highway over the Fraser River and blast a highway through the mountains from Port Alberni to Tofino, it’s possible to create a modern passenger rail service between Victoria and Langford, he said.”
As a very young train I remember building to Port Alberni. But we did it unfairly. We cut through reserves without a second thought. A lot that happened back then was wrong.
This feels closer to right.
#rail #vancouverisland #icf #transport
https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/mayors-to-work-with-first-nations-on-commuter-rail-that-doesnt-cut-reserve-land-in-half-11613304
