#scientism — Public Fediverse posts
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IEP:n entry skientismistä yllätti positiivisesti.
https://iep.utm.edu/scientism/
Kirjoittaja on Eric Martin ja uusin lähdeviittaus niinkin läheltä kuin vuodelta 2025. IEP ei tavoittele sellaista filosofis-tieteellistä ajantasaa kuin SEP, ja usein sen artikkelit ovat yleistajuisesti valaisevampia. Olen käyttänyt niitä "terveellisenä arkiravintona" uutisten ja muun sälän sijasta, kun en kirjojakaan enää lue. Aloin keväällä perata A:sta lähtien jollain tapaa mielenkiintooni resonoivia kirjoituksia, joista ei löytynyt kirjanmerkkiä selaimeni aatella-kansiosta, ja nyt siis liikun jo S:ssä. En ole laskenut, montako on tullut pureskeltua, mutta päiväkirjailuistani varmaan näkisin, että useita kymmeniä.
Tuo skientismi ravitsi tänään nelisen nettotuntia, minkä ajan pysyin visusti poissa sähköpostin ja pikaviestimien ulottuvilta, ja tietysti myös täältä Mastodontista. Kaikki suorittaminen pysyi loitolla, ja ehkä kokemusta voisi verrata taidenäyttelyn keskelle yksinään unohtumiseen? On ilahduttavaa huomata vielä tässä iässä, että huomiota vaativia ärsykkeitä voi ja saa säädellä ihan itse, eikä "myrkkyä" ole pakko syödä.
#iep #scientism #science #philosophy #filosofia #ajattelu #thinking #lukeminen #reading #being #oleminen #elämä #life #socialmedia #noNews #lepo #rest
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From Tool to Dictator: Who’s Actually in Control Here? 🛠️🤖
The key question for all of us: 🤔
Have we relinquished control in the name of speed and efficiency? And in what situations do you now trust an algorithm more than your own gut feeling?
🎧 Listen now & join the conversation!
https://open.spotify.com/episode/157nUepYXa1PqvbpFRabIH?si=x9jbJ7u_RXKANnIAP3IxSg
#Technopol #NeilPostman #Digitalization #Philosophy #Technology #Foucault #Scientism #ManAndMachine #philosophies_de #Podcast
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Easy As Pie God's own apple pie recipe. rustyring.blogspot.com/2026/05/easy... #astronomy, #CarlSagan, #dependentcoarising, #gratitude, #hermitpractice, #koan, #meditation, #Scientism, #Zen
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Easy As Pie
God's own apple recipe.
https://rustyring.blogspot.com/2026/05/easy-as-pie.html
#astronomy, #CarlSagan, #dependentcoarising, #gratitude, #hermitpractice, #koan, #meditation, #Scientism, #Zen
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A discussion with @snapshotsmith about "Determinism" and scientific truth reminded me that the gap between science and #Scientism is wide.
Incidentally a close friend sent me the paper below on Rosennean Complecity by #Siekmann. Section 5 lists the 3 commandments of modelling in #science ... that's Lie, Cheat and Steal. That's at least honest.
Siekmann, Ivo. "An applied mathematician's perspective on Rosennean Complexity." Ecological Complexity 35 (2018): 28-38.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7270781/pdf/main.pdf
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It's really curious... I post something about the connections between #math and #magic, between #Science and #Esotericism, between #BeliefSystems in #technology and #religion, and it's unlikely that people react to my post.
Let's face it, if thinking about the history of #CommonSense and science amounts to #heresy then it's #scientism.
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"What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look."
Dana Scully, The #XFiles, s01e01
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"Civil society groups warn new Asilomar conference: Scientists must not be allowed to self-regulate"
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@GMWatch Excellent indeed! This misleading myth of science neutrality must be ditchet. As if scientists were free from social-economic, political or self-interest and science is a thing on its own and not a product of society that needs to be discussed by societal forces
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...we live in a culture of relentless, round-the-clock boosterism for science and technology. With each new discovery and invention, the virtues are always oversold, the drawbacks understated. Who can forget the freely mobile society of the automobile, the friendly atom, the paperless office, the impending crisis of too much leisure time, or the era of universal education ushered in by television? We now hear the same utopian claims about the Internet. But everyone knows science and technology are inevitably a mixed blessing.
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Instead of metric fixation, joy fixation. Learning goes where intrinsic motivation leads.
Measurement kills curiosity, joy, and intrinsic motivation.
Goodhart’s law: “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure”.
Step 1 of motivating learning: Restore curiosity and joy. Stop measuring everything.
What if all the reductionist scientism of “the science of” frameworks were replaced with “the joy of”? That change of framing would serve us far better, including when teaching STEM.
Further Reading
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/metric-fixation/
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/intrinsic-motivation/
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/mcnamara-fallacy/
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/scientism/
https://stimpunks.org/2023/11/22/on-the-problems-with-science-of-reading/
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/framing/
https://stimpunks.org/glossary/stem/
https://stimpunks.org/2024/11/01/instead-of-metrics-fixate-on-joy-to-motivate-learning/
#education #intrinsicMotivation #learning #measurement #metricFixation #reductionism #scientism #STEM
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@markrubin.bsky.social how is that surprising? When psychologists mix up a bunch of things from neurological, perceptual and social terminology there might as well be more effects that are indicative of people not being well. #scientism
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@EeveeEuphoria That's fascinating indeed - especially the universal handwriting of that one guy from the Netherlands Antilles... The "Believe in the Law of Small Numbers" is strong in them...
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This meme has crossed my feed in a number of places lately. I’m sharing it for debate, not for approval or agreement. If you share from my post, please leave my commentary intact. This has been a public service announcement.
#Scientism is very nearly a straw man. I’m willing to concede that there are some people who treat #science like a religion, but their numbers are tiny and they have zero influence on the conduct of research AFAICT. Anti-science #zealots who come up with memes like this, OTOH, are numerous and disturbingly influential.
It’s also amusing how the meme assumes #epistemology is a gold standard against which other intellectual pursuits must be measured. The author assigns to #philosophy the same unquestionable authority he accuses others of assigning to science.
So I’ll stake my claim: scientific #methodology—in the literal sense of the study of methods—has done more to illuminate “how we know what we know” in the last couple of centuries than formal epistemology has done in millennia. If this be scientism, make the most of it.
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Why not scientism?
Science is not the only form of knowledge but it is the best, being the most successful epistemic enterprise in historyhttps://aeon.co/essays/science-is-not-the-only-form-of-knowledge-but-it-is-the-best
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I see a lot of people talking about #science as a #religion, or the closely related idea of “#scientism,” the purported ideology that says science is the only way to know things. Oh, I’m not talking about you, they’ll solemnly assure anyone who objects. Naturally you know better. Just … you know … them. Those people, out there. The great unwashed. On the #internet, nobody knows how long it’s been since you took a shower.
You know what I hardly ever see? The phenomenon in question.
There are people who think that way. Yes. Ideologues of science—hardly if ever #scientists themselves—who invoke The #Scientific Method™ (that’s a whole ‘nother rant) as the be-all and end-all justification for whatever nonsense they spew. Such posts and comments have crossed my feed a time or two. But they are vastly outnumbered by those who complain about them, at least where I can see both groups. I have no reason to believe my experience is atypical in this regard.
As a scientist myself, I think science is a very good way to understand certain things. In my field, it’s the best way to know what makes you sick, and hopefully what will make you better. There are other ways to learn these things, sure, and many of them can be useful places to start. If you don’t end up with a #clinical #trial sooner or later, you’re as likely to kill as cure.
To know what we’re seeing when we look up at the lights in the sky. How the natural world around us, of which we’re a part whether we like it or not, changes and how we both affect and are affected by that change. What came before us, and what might come after. The fundamental building blocks of reality. All these require science for real understanding. If you try to puzzle them out any other way, you may learn something, but you’ll also fill your head with a lot of nonsense. Sorting the wheat from the chaff later is a lot harder than doing it right the first time.
Other questions are at least amenable to scientific inquiry, although that process itself may not be enough. What my fiancee does as a #historian looks, to me, a lot like what I do as a #biomedical #researcher. Make observations, construct #hypotheses, gather evidence, test and revise. (And revise, and revise, and …) But #history vanishes every minute. What’s left is always fragmentary, and shaped by the interactions of modern minds with those long since gone to dust. There will never be an objective truth, only the truest story that can be told.
And then there are things beyond any kind of quantitative analysis, or even rigorous qualitative description. We may be able to agree on what makes a true story, more or less, but what makes a good one? That’s inherently personal. A happy marriage, a tasty meal, a satisfying job—only we can define what these goals mean for ourselves. Science may at best, occasionally, provide vague guidelines. Even then, my advice will not determine your experience.
My perspective is unusual in one key way, sure: not too many people do science for a living, at least not compared to other jobs. With regards to the way people talk about science, I think it’s not unusual at all, except maybe that I pay particular attention.
The division above—things that clearly belong in science’s domain, things that clearly don’t, and a whole bunch in the middle—is a whole lot more common than the idea of science as the One True. It’s at least somewhat more common than blanket rejection of science too, but not as much as it should be. That’s also a rant for another time.
Which all makes me wonder what people who never miss a chance to bring up “scientism” and science-as-religion get out of it.
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@alex Like..... Exactly 200?
Not, 186, or 217, or 2000?
Well, at least a kewl round number means it's obviously Scientism, lolz.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg
#tallship #scientism #nice_round_numbers_mean_it_is_for_realz #ROFLMAOPMP #AYBABTU
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"The (mistaken) idea seems to be that any hypothesis—no matter how bigoted—can be safely postulated and tested because the ‘scientific method’ weeds out untruths and leave the truths stand. This, however, overlooks two important false assumptions: that hypotheses themselves are value neutral, and that we have unlimited resources to debunk misconceived ideas."
from @Iris: https://irisvanrooijcogsci.com/2024/03/03/the-myth-of-value-free-science/
#distraction #science #tech #methodology #AI #scientism #bias #techBros #AIRisks #proof #quotes
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This is “#scientism” and gate-keeping in the wild
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Heresy? Huh?
Not to hijack your helmet thread, but women ARE female. There's no question there. Duh!
Only an idiot would think otherwise.
Now for the matter of Copernicus and Galileo espousing the notion that we actually revolve around the sun... I think they still use those old "Breaking Wheels" to fix parishioners with wrong think, lolz.
Oh and another immutable truth for today: The Earth is no longer flat - I added some carbonation (and rum). You can thank me later. 🤘💀🤘
#tallship #scientism #bullshitism
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Debate: Why not scientism?
Science is not the only form of knowledge but it is the best, being the most successful epistemic enterprise in history.
Philosophy is dead,’ Stephen Hawking once declared, because it ‘has not kept up with modern developments in science, particularly physics.’
The response from some philosophers was to accuse Hawking of ‘scientism'🔗 https://aeon.co/essays/science-is-not-the-only-form-of-knowledge-but-it-is-the-best
#science #epistemology @sociology @philosophy #Philosophy #scientism #scientists #philosopher
