#defederation — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #defederation, aggregated by home.social.
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RE: https://cosocial.ca/@timbray/116891415911514354
Some good #Fediverse #MastoPromo in this, my favourite part is about #DeFederation. I think it is an essential bulwark against the #Enshitification of this great social media platform. Migrating to a #MastoInstance from the #Zuker and #Elon platforms was the best thing I ever did.
“Then there’s Mastodon’s nuclear weapon: Defederation. Suppose you’re prone to nasty bigotry in public and you get reported a lot and your server’s moderators don’t rein you in. Eventually, word will get around, and if things aren’t cleaned up, most servers will defederate yours, so that nobody on their server can see posts from anyone on yours. Your site is no longer part of the “Fediverse”; this is a powerful incentive for server owners to take moderation seriously.
The effect is that the haters and scammers and Nazis who show up mostly get shuffled off-stage PDQ. Not always, unfortunately; a couple of years ago a wave of incoming Black people had bad experiences with racist abuse. Ouch. Is there anywhere in the world that a loud-voiced Black woman won’t provoke a chud eruption? [sigh]
But the good news is that recent Mastodon releases have been shutting prone-to-abuse channels down, so things are better than then and should continue to improve.” -
RE: https://cosocial.ca/@timbray/116891415911514354
Some good #Fediverse #MastoPromo in this, my favourite part is about #DeFederation. I think it is an essential bulwark against the #Enshitification of this great social media platform. Migrating to a #MastoInstance from the #Zuker and #Elon platforms was the best thing I ever did.
“Then there’s Mastodon’s nuclear weapon: Defederation. Suppose you’re prone to nasty bigotry in public and you get reported a lot and your server’s moderators don’t rein you in. Eventually, word will get around, and if things aren’t cleaned up, most servers will defederate yours, so that nobody on their server can see posts from anyone on yours. Your site is no longer part of the “Fediverse”; this is a powerful incentive for server owners to take moderation seriously.
The effect is that the haters and scammers and Nazis who show up mostly get shuffled off-stage PDQ. Not always, unfortunately; a couple of years ago a wave of incoming Black people had bad experiences with racist abuse. Ouch. Is there anywhere in the world that a loud-voiced Black woman won’t provoke a chud eruption? [sigh]
But the good news is that recent Mastodon releases have been shutting prone-to-abuse channels down, so things are better than then and should continue to improve.” -
This instance/service is violation enough to the point that I think that "the instance" deserves wide defederation, not just me putting a personal block on it.
And fedizens should not have to take personal blocking action because some arsehole thinks "I'll create a billion bots to boost tags and people have to opt out of it to avoid me doing so for their content" is somehow good fediverse behaviour.
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This instance/service is violation enough to the point that I think that "the instance" deserves wide defederation, not just me putting a personal block on it.
And fedizens should not have to take personal blocking action because some arsehole thinks "I'll create a billion bots to boost tags and people have to opt out of it to avoid me doing so for their content" is somehow good fediverse behaviour.
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“If you read [the #Pope’s] statement with #thefediverse in mind, this is almost a diagram: #Subsidiarity without #solidarity is #fragmentation: a thousand instances each guarding their own place, with no shared obligation or collaboration, with no place to maintain the commons that is the network itself. There is no form of #federatedDiplomacy, or even a mental framework on how servers should interact, besides #defederation when you get too annoyed with another server.”
https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr164-the-pope-on-defederation/
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“If you read [the #Pope’s] statement with #thefediverse in mind, this is almost a diagram: #Subsidiarity without #solidarity is #fragmentation: a thousand instances each guarding their own place, with no shared obligation or collaboration, with no place to maintain the commons that is the network itself. There is no form of #federatedDiplomacy, or even a mental framework on how servers should interact, besides #defederation when you get too annoyed with another server.”
https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr164-the-pope-on-defederation/
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Most of the Fediverse literally has DEFEDERATED Threads, due to obvious reasons. (privacy)
Using Threads was a trial for me, to see whether it's just an echo chamber of Instagram users or actually any kind of presence exists there from the Fediverse.
I am sorry to confirm that the former is indeed true.
#threads #moderation #instagram #fediverse #federation #defederation
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Most of the Fediverse literally has DEFEDERATED Threads, due to obvious reasons. (privacy)
Using Threads was a trial for me, to see whether it's just an echo chamber of Instagram users or actually any kind of presence exists there from the Fediverse.
I am sorry to confirm that the former is indeed true.
#threads #moderation #instagram #fediverse #federation #defederation
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Come to #mastodon they said.
No algorithms they said.
No evil #techbro to break your #socials they said
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@oldperl @BlumeEvolution guten Morgen. Und wie willst du Regeln gegen andere Admins durchsetzen? Im Rahmen der Gesetzte bin auf meinen Geräten ich Herr im Haus 🤔
Bleibt noch das Mittel der #defederation (durch Heimserver) und #Serverblock (durch Heimserver und User), und das wird ja auch genutzt. -
@oldperl @BlumeEvolution guten Morgen. Und wie willst du Regeln gegen andere Admins durchsetzen? Im Rahmen der Gesetzte bin auf meinen Geräten ich Herr im Haus 🤔
Bleibt noch das Mittel der #defederation (durch Heimserver) und #Serverblock (durch Heimserver und User), und das wird ja auch genutzt. -
Is mas.to suddenly defederated? Because there are just TOO MANY POSTS AND ACCOUNTS FROM MAS.TO WHICH I CAN'T VIEW. If I can even view some, can't view all posts........
This issue is both on this account and my other account which is @[email protected]
#masto #Ask #askfedi #AskMastodon #defederation #Mastodon -
Is mas.to suddenly defederated? Because there are just TOO MANY POSTS AND ACCOUNTS FROM MAS.TO WHICH I CAN'T VIEW. If I can even view some, can't view all posts........
This issue is both on this account and my other account which is @[email protected]
#masto #Ask #askfedi #AskMastodon #defederation #Mastodon -
I strongly recomend blocking annihilation.social...
Stupid fucking maga trolls doing maga troll things..
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I strongly recomend blocking annihilation.social...
Stupid fucking maga trolls doing maga troll things..
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Please read the response here
https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@Dendrobatus_Azureus/115622819270261339
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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Please read the response here
https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@Dendrobatus_Azureus/115622819270261339
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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When I joined years ago it was easy. I picked a server at random. I chose the server from the rotating list that you see when you go to Mastodon. It was a server that immediately allowed you to post.
Just like with MMORPG {massive multiplayer online role-playing games}, I knew that I needed accounts on different servers.
So I created other accounts on other servers which had good up times from the beginning.
There was a rotating list you could choose from that you immediately saw, when you were first confronted with a FediVerse.
The default client never adviced you to join mastodon.social on the contrary
From my POV it's still easy. However that can differ for the casual user
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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When I joined years ago it was easy. I picked a server at random. I chose the server from the rotating list that you see when you go to Mastodon. It was a server that immediately allowed you to post.
Just like with MMORPG {massive multiplayer online role-playing games}, I knew that I needed accounts on different servers.
So I created other accounts on other servers which had good up times from the beginning.
There was a rotating list you could choose from that you immediately saw, when you were first confronted with a FediVerse.
The default client never adviced you to join mastodon.social on the contrary
From my POV it's still easy. However that can differ for the casual user
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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There is no one entity who does that {<dis>allowing}
The fact that mastodon.social changed "without warning* the **critical policy** of rotating suggested servers, is highly suspect of a corporate entity pulling strings {read USD / EUR payment}.
This is conjecture, it is not factual, I can't prove it.
The fact however that I'm bringing my mind to that level, means that trust has been broken in the mastodon.social server, which abused the official clients they code, to plug their server, negating the many smaller servers growth.
Mastodon.social has the same weight as any other Federated Server.
We should not have let it come so far. It's become a mammoth that needs to be brought back in line.
Complacency brought us to this level
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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There is no one entity who does that {<dis>allowing}
The fact that mastodon.social changed "without warning* the **critical policy** of rotating suggested servers, is highly suspect of a corporate entity pulling strings {read USD / EUR payment}.
This is conjecture, it is not factual, I can't prove it.
The fact however that I'm bringing my mind to that level, means that trust has been broken in the mastodon.social server, which abused the official clients they code, to plug their server, negating the many smaller servers growth.
Mastodon.social has the same weight as any other Federated Server.
We should not have let it come so far. It's become a mammoth that needs to be brought back in line.
Complacency brought us to this level
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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Another critical section highlighted
Guarding our Federated Network is critical for the infrastructure.
The change is IMHO not just irresponsible, it's a deliberate concentration of users.Luckily we can reverse the trend, if needed without the blessings of mastodon.social
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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Another critical section highlighted
Guarding our Federated Network is critical for the infrastructure.
The change is IMHO not just irresponsible, it's a deliberate concentration of users.Luckily we can reverse the trend, if needed without the blessings of mastodon.social
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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I've just highlighted a critical portion of this post regarding the concentration of new users and the growth of the FediVerse in a federated manner in relationship to the reality where only one server grows, moderation suffers {user to mod ratio} and other servers regretfully shrink!
No one entity / server should be allowed to grow exponentially defeating the purpose of a Federated Network.
https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server/
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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I've just highlighted a critical portion of this post regarding the concentration of new users and the growth of the FediVerse in a federated manner in relationship to the reality where only one server grows, moderation suffers {user to mod ratio} and other servers regretfully shrink!
No one entity / server should be allowed to grow exponentially defeating the purpose of a Federated Network.
https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server/
#FediVerse #Mastodon #technology #programming #defederation #moderation #power #donations
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Nun... alles sehr unerfreulich, aber diese Instanz wird aufgrund der Entwicklungen der letzten Tage nun zum Ende des Monats geschlossen.
Ich kann damit einfach nicht umgehen, wenn mir der Rechtsstaat auf die Füße tritt und Dinge verlangt - ich kann nicht auf einen Anwalt zurück greifen, der mir dann solche Anfragen etc. überprüft und dann mit den Behörden kommuniziert.
Danke übrigens an dieser Stelle an die Person, die sich bemüssigt gefühlt hat, gegen User*innen meiner Instanz, die ich privat betreibe und in die ich viel Herzblut gesteckt habe, vorzugehen.
Dir gebührt ein besonderer Platz in meinem Herzen und in meine schlaflosen Nächte. :psyduck: /s
Alle User*innen sind informiert und ich hoffe, dass sie sich einen sicheren Hafen suchen können und werden.
Es tut mir definitiv in der Seele weh, dass es so weit kommen musste - aber so kann man eben auch eine Instanz deföderieren - besser als jeder FediBlock.
Danke an alle für Euer Vertrauen, für Eure Unterstützung und für die schöne Zeit hier.
Ich weiß nicht, was ich noch sagen kann.
Macht's gut und Danke für den Fisch.
#mastoAdmin #FediAdmin #SharkAdmin #defederation #exitFedi #fediverse # -
Nun... alles sehr unerfreulich, aber diese Instanz wird aufgrund der Entwicklungen der letzten Tage nun zum Ende des Monats geschlossen.
Ich kann damit einfach nicht umgehen, wenn mir der Rechtsstaat auf die Füße tritt und Dinge verlangt - ich kann nicht auf einen Anwalt zurück greifen, der mir dann solche Anfragen etc. überprüft und dann mit den Behörden kommuniziert.
Danke übrigens an dieser Stelle an die Person, die sich bemüssigt gefühlt hat, gegen User*innen meiner Instanz, die ich privat betreibe und in die ich viel Herzblut gesteckt habe, vorzugehen.
Dir gebührt ein besonderer Platz in meinem Herzen und in meine schlaflosen Nächte. :psyduck: /s
Alle User*innen sind informiert und ich hoffe, dass sie sich einen sicheren Hafen suchen können und werden.
Es tut mir definitiv in der Seele weh, dass es so weit kommen musste - aber so kann man eben auch eine Instanz deföderieren - besser als jeder FediBlock.
Danke an alle für Euer Vertrauen, für Eure Unterstützung und für die schöne Zeit hier.
Ich weiß nicht, was ich noch sagen kann.
Macht's gut und Danke für den Fisch.
#mastoAdmin #FediAdmin #SharkAdmin #defederation #exitFedi #fediverse # -
When you think #Defederation is a new term, I know you've never talked to an email server admin ;)
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When you think #Defederation is a new term, I know you've never talked to an email server admin ;)
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»New Paradigms in #Trust and #Safety: Navigating #Defederation on #Decentralized #SocialMedia Platforms: Experts consider how it can be used responsibly, in a way that balances #speech and #safety.« https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/03/fediverse-social-media-internet-defederation?Fedizen.EU #Fedizen #Fediverse #ActivityPub #News
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»New Paradigms in #Trust and #Safety: Navigating #Defederation on #Decentralized #SocialMedia Platforms: Experts consider how it can be used responsibly, in a way that balances #speech and #safety.« https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/03/fediverse-social-media-internet-defederation?Fedizen.EU #Fedizen #Fediverse #ActivityPub #News
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@homegrown
I wish more instance admins would utilize the limit/silence feature instead of the sledgehammer of #suspend / #defederation -
@homegrown
I wish more instance admins would utilize the limit/silence feature instead of the sledgehammer of #suspend / #defederation -
Thanks to @mike and @kev and co for very thoughtfully engaging with the question of #defederation from #Threads. Fosstodon will let individuals decide. Bravo! https://fosstodon.org/@fosstodon/113826371651831656
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Thanks to @mike and @kev and co for very thoughtfully engaging with the question of #defederation from #Threads. Fosstodon will let individuals decide. Bravo! https://fosstodon.org/@fosstodon/113826371651831656
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Threads.net has been suspended on this server (darkmoon.social) due to Meta's policy decisions that enable systemic abuse and disinformation across its platforms.
This is a decision I've been mulling over for a while now, and recent events have pushed me to finally pull the trigger. I will not associate with fascists, even by proxy. I'm sorry to lose access to good content by people who have accounts there, but enough is enough.
#fightFascism #Meta #Threads #Defederation -
Threads.net has been suspended on this server (darkmoon.social) due to Meta's policy decisions that enable systemic abuse and disinformation across its platforms.
This is a decision I've been mulling over for a while now, and recent events have pushed me to finally pull the trigger. I will not associate with fascists, even by proxy. I'm sorry to lose access to good content by people who have accounts there, but enough is enough.
#fightFascism #Meta #Threads #Defederation -
@phocks this would be a good time for #Mastodon instances and the rest of the #Fediverse to reconsider their ill-advised #defederation with #Threads
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@phocks this would be a good time for #Mastodon instances and the rest of the #Fediverse to reconsider their ill-advised #defederation with #Threads
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For those still on mastodon.social, I suggest you leave and find somewhere else to be. The mods on there don't care about transphobia because they refuse to block meta.net. #mastodonsocial #fediblock #blockmeta #defederation #defed #defederatethreads #transphobia #queerphobia #useless #liberals
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For those still on mastodon.social, I suggest you leave and find somewhere else to be. The mods on there don't care about transphobia because they refuse to block meta.net. #mastodonsocial #fediblock #blockmeta #defederation #defed #defederatethreads #transphobia #queerphobia #useless #liberals
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CW: Fediverse Meta, Complaining about Mastodon Defed Options (Again)
So apparently Authorized Fetch does, in fact, work with user-level blocks. :blobfoxthinkgoogly: With that being the case, why doesn't Mastodon have a defederation option where users have an instance blocked by default, but can choose to opt back into federation?
It'd be a really good way to protect user privacy with services like Threads (which doesn't support Authorized Fetch anyway, but still), without it being an outright defederation. With all the bemoaning of Fedi blocking Threads, it seems like that would've been the proper solution instead of telling server admins to suck it up and fork over all of their users' data. Also, for the record, CubHub has Threads blocked, and even if they didn't, they'd block us anyway since we allow porn (and not cub porn ya knobs).
It'd also be a better mechanism for dealing with bridges between here and BlueSky or Nostr, instead of demanding that the creators of those bridges build in their own opt-in mechanism instead, which still feels incredibly unreasonable to me when that features should be built into Mastodon.
#Mastodon #MastoMeta #MastodonMeta #Fedi #FediMeta #Threads #Defederation #BlueSky #BlueSkyBridge #Bridgy #BridgyFed