#project92 — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #project92, aggregated by home.social.
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After more than 2 weeks of work, the official #lemmy instance of utopify.org is online: https://lemmy.utopify.org/
It took way to much time, but I wanted to be sure it is the right thing and that everything works even better than before in the old utopify.org guild chat on #habitica And after a lots of struggles, it looks like it is usable, now.
The new lemmy instance covers topics like #selfdevelopment and #sustainability and everything what is connected to it. I will create a lot of communities the next weeks and almost every #challenge I provided on Habitica will be accessible publicly there, too. (And I will announce them on Mastodon).
It should be a safe space to focus on important topics and define fulfilling goals, create a habit to work on them and to reach them in an efficient way, even if the "All Feed" is activated, which can be distracting very fast, because it shows federated posts. I recommend to stay in the "Local Feed".
I've put so much energy, time and money in a self-hosted Lemmy instance, because what happened on Habitica was the last time that a company will be able to destroy the utopify community.
We had a healthy routine to set goals, have a sustainable mindset, motivate and inspire others and all was gone within a short time. This time the plan is, that it will stay for much much longer and that all experience will be saved and can be shared by everyone :)
The Lemmy instance is free of GAFAM spyware (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) or any trackers/ads and it runs on a private server and WE DON'T FEDERATE WITH #META (#threads, #project92, #p92)
If you want to support utopify.org, you can do this over liberapay: https://liberapay.com/utopify.org
Every cent is appreciated and helps to keep everything running :)
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DE: "Eine Teenagerin aus Nebraska, die mit Hilfe ihrer Mutter #Abtreibungspille|n besorgte und damit gegen staatliches #Recht verstieß, wurde zu 90 Tagen #Gefängnis verurteilt." (Rolling Stone, 2023-07-21)
Leider erwähnt dieses Abstract nicht deutlich genug, dass #Facebook / #Meta an den Ermittlungen maßgeblich beteiligt war.
#FuckMeta #Fuckerberg #FuckFacebook #Meta #Facebook #Zuckerberg #FuckZuckerberg #Project92 #P92 #FuckP92 #GOP #Nebraska #Denunziantentum
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And even more confirmations.
https://www.threads.net/@threadsapp/post/Cu2TLZHLvA4
https://creators.instagram.com/blog/introducing-threads
It’s basically the same slides but on a website.
#meta #threadsapp #project92 #p92 #barcelona #instagram #blockmeta #threads -
I didn’t see anyone report on this, but a 13 slides deck about #meta #threadApp ’s future plans has leaked.
And guess what you can find at the slide 11.... Mastodon compatibility confirmed again.
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-instagram-threads-document-shows-upcoming-features-2023-7 (Pay walled)
(this post contains 13 webp pictures, open the post on calckey.social if you can’t view all pictures on your instance)
#project92 #p92 #barcelona #instagram #blockmeta #threads -
Another thing that I think #Threads did well is that — they let you follow people BEFORE they (also) joined Threads.
They did it by identifying these people by their #Instagram ID.
But you could imagine this working with other IDs, too.
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I started muting every brand and influencer #Threads has put in my home-feed (that I am not following).
It somewhat improved the home-feed.
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One thing that I think #Threads did well is that — they were able to bring over large chunks of communities over from #Instagram to Threads.
(They did it by pulling in users from Instagram to Threads https://mastodon.social/@reiver/110665875303226142 )
I think that this is one challenges the Fediverse has had, that affects retention.
One of the draws of a social-media network is the individuals and the communities that are there.
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Yes, according to The Guardian, #regulations in the EU were the main issue: "Sources at #Meta, which owns Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp, said regulations were behind the postponement of an EU launch, amid a series of clashes between the social media group and the bloc." #Threads #P92 #Project92
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The home feed of #Meta 's / #Facebook 's / #Instagram 's new social-media network #Threads seems to only be showing me posts from accounts I do NOT follow.
I wonder if it is because the accounts I do follow there aren't posting (or aren't posting enough).
Or their #RecommendationEngine (which so many people wrongly call the #Algorithm ) doesn't seem good at figuring out what I'm interested in. Maybe it doesn't have enough data — although they do have data on me from Instagram.
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@dausacker O autor da publicação, Rodrigo Ghedin, parece esquecer da estratégia adotada pelos proponentes da #IdeologiaCaliforniana para degradar padrões internacionais que envolve o ato de abraçar, estender e extinguir.
#Padrões #Padrão #PadrãoDeMercado #Standard #Standards #OpenStandard #OpenStandards #CalifornianIdeology #Meta #Threads #Facebook #Twitter #Instagram #WhatsApp #Google #Alphabet #Project92 #P92 #XMPP #ActivityPub #Mastodon #Federação #Federation #Fediverse #Fediverso
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Viele machen sich Sorgen wegen des angekündigten Einstiegs des #Facebook-Konzerns #Meta ins Fediverse. Es geht um die App #Threads. Was wir darüber wissen, steht hier: https://digitalcourage.de/blog/2023/fediverse-teilen-und-herrschen
Bei @digitalcourage haben wir noch nicht entschieden, ob wir Metas Fediverse-Instanz(en) aus unseren Instanzen aussperren werden. Noch funktioniert bei threads.net das Föderieren nicht. Das kann sich aber jederzeit ändern.
Wer vorbeugend ausschließen will, dass die eigenen Tröts zu Meta/Threads gelangen, kann sich mit folgender Anleitung abschotten:
1. Die CSV-Datei von https://gitlab.digitalcourage.de/fediverse/lists/-/raw/main/blocked_domains.csv herunterladen.
2. In den persönlichen Mastodon-Einstellungen auf „Importieren und Exportieren“ gehen, dann auf „Importieren“, also hierhin: https://digitalcourage.social/settings/imports
3. In der Auswahlbox „Domain-Sperrliste“ auswählen
4. Die zuvor heruntergeladene CSV-Datei dort hochladen
5. Wenn das geklappt hat, müssten Einträge mit „threads“ auf https://digitalcourage.social/domain_blocks zu sehen sein
Vielen Dank an @ordnung für die Vorlage!
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AFAICT, #Meta / #Facebook grew their new social-media network #Threads by mostly bringing over users from their old social-media network #Instagram .
Online video games use this technique, too.
They try to get people who play their old video game to play their new video game.It tends to make the customer acquisition cost a lot less expensive.
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Reminds me of MongoDB vs RethinkDB
"RethinkDB: why we failed"
https://web.archive.org/web/20170119021049/http://defstartup.org/2017/01/18/why-rethinkdb-failed.html#meta #facebook #threads #project92 #p92
https://mstdn.binarytango.com/@binarytango/110665558368417733
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I figure that this may be the best place to ask but
Can someone ELI5 to me what #federation is? What is #ActivityPub? What makes bluesky different from mastodon and vice versa? What are the implications of Meta making project 92/threads? I'm not very tech savvy and just need some help understanding.
And bonus, only if you want to answer but what does the future of social media look like??
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I figure that this may be the best place to ask but
Can someone ELI5 to me what #federation is? What is #ActivityPub? What makes bluesky different from mastodon and vice versa? What are the implications of Meta making project 92/threads? I'm not very tech savvy and just need some help understanding.
And bonus, only if you want to answer but what does the future of social media look like??
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I figure that this may be the best place to ask but
Can someone ELI5 to me what #federation is? What is #ActivityPub? What makes bluesky different from mastodon and vice versa? What are the implications of Meta making project 92/threads? I'm not very tech savvy and just need some help understanding.
And bonus, only if you want to answer but what does the future of social media look like??
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I figure that this may be the best place to ask but
Can someone ELI5 to me what #federation is? What is #ActivityPub? What makes bluesky different from mastodon and vice versa? What are the implications of Meta making project 92/threads? I'm not very tech savvy and just need some help understanding.
And bonus, only if you want to answer but what does the future of social media look like??
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I figure that this may be the best place to ask but
Can someone ELI5 to me what #federation is? What is #ActivityPub? What makes bluesky different from mastodon and vice versa? What are the implications of Meta making project 92/threads? I'm not very tech savvy and just need some help understanding.
And bonus, only if you want to answer but what does the future of social media look like??
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@vncntx At the beginning, nothing. Once #Meta/Facebook/Instagram’s #Project92 is the largest instance, they’ll start making “improvements” to the protocol. Other instances will have to implement them to federate. At that point, they’ll be running the show.
(If we let them. And by “we”, I mean the largest instances. mastodon.social and the other largest instances could nip this in the bud now if they wanted to. But I hear they’re out signing NDAs…)
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So there is all this hair-on-fire posting about Meta federating with a new service but…. Does anyone know WHEN it will happen??
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@StormyDragon You ask:
what is protecting those users from the numerous unknown instances that are already here from doing whatever it is Meta is going to do?
Batshit. Insane. Gobs. Of. Wealth.
Facebook is scale at scales the mind simply boggles at.
3 billion monthly average users (MAU).
5 billion items posted per day. That's about 60,000 per second.
A market capitalisation (after a couple of bad years, I'll add), of three quarters of a trillion dollars.
Compared to its home state of California, that's a wealth of $19,000 per person in the state which Facebook can leverage to do its bidding. Facebook bought WhatsApp, then making a loss on $10m in sales, for $19 billion, largely cash. Keep in mind that the typical US household would struggle to meet an unexpected $400 expense. Facebook's price was more than $400 per resident of California, which is to say, Facebook's buying power is comparable to that of the wealthiest state in the United States.
Yes, there are threats that small instances may pose to the Fediverse. Yes, there are privacy and surveillance issues I've long been aware of and have warned against, as have others (see @alex particularly, who ... has greater pedigree than I do in this space). But those instances don't have access to Facebook's resources, combined with Facebook's nearly-twenty-year record of abusing its dumb fucks, excuse me, users, and violating condition after condition after condition regulators have imposed upon it.
#Facebook #Meta #Metablock #ItsTheMotherfuckingScaleStupid #Scale #FuckZuck #FuckFacebook #P92 #Project92 #BarcelonaProject
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Today's top ten tag trends:
10: #mondaymotivation
9: #migraciomastodont
8: #oldpunks
7: #titanic
6: #80smusictaughtme
5: #Photomonday
4: #Project92
3: #Fotomontag
2: #meta
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#meta could be a threat for the #fediverse
With the codename #project92 or #barcelona , #meta launches a new project soon and nobody could care less than people who already freed themselves from big corps, but rumors exist that it might use the #activitypub protocol, which would make it a part of the fediverse.
Over night, one of the biggest data collectors on this planet, will own the biggest fediverse instance and will have access to a lot of data, which wasn't collected before, because not many people used the fediverse. But after Elon Musk showed his real face after taking over #twitter and the many problems on #reddit , a lot of people are leaving conventional platforms of multi-(m/b)illion-dollar companies and use tools from the fediverse. This is new, because in general, people would just go to another big corp and nothing changes.
This time the people are going to a place, which is controlled by the people. There are instances and every instance has it's own code of conduct. A place where no multi-(m/b)illion-dollar company can make money (yet) or is in control of anything.
History showed, that big corps could harm or destroy #foss (free and open source software), where the maintainers had ethical values, like Firefox trying to be privacy friendly. Since #google (#alphabet) made huge donations to #mozilla the browser is privacy invasive and it took years until a fork was able to remove all of it to make it a privacy friendly browser again.
In the 1990s, Microsoft had a strategy called "embrace, extend and exterminate" (#doctorwho reference not intended) to destroy competitors.
It could look like this:
- Embrace: Develop software compatible with the fediverse
- Extend: Add features to the world biggest instance which is not supported by other instances (e.g. closed source, pay wall)
- Exterminate: All other instances are worthless if federation doesn't work anymore with the biggest instance after an updateThe code of #mastodon and other fediverse tools could be changed, so that smaller or even all other instances could be excluded, it couldn't be solved by a single fork this time, because we would need a fediverse 2.0 so all the forks can communicate with each other again, after removing shitty code hindering federation.
Another problem might be to convince people to leave the "invected fediverse 1.0" (which became a centralized platform) and come to "fediverse 2.0" (which is like the fediverse once was), because it's already hard enough to tell them to leave #whatsapp (or similar software) for a better alternative. Imagine they already left the bad thing, but then we tell them to leave the current system, too. I am not a pessimist, but at this point the big corp might win.
We could be strong and ban metas instance on any free instance, which is still able to make their own decisions. This could trigger the third huge wave of people willing to use something new (and free, like in free speech) or we could act like it's a friendly act of a big corp, which doesn't have financial interest at all and it's just cool to be connected with more people and everything will be fine. No offense, but this sounds really naive, because the wet dream of big corps is a totalitarian system, where they are in control of everything, watching every step of every person and not living in a free and democratic world where the people are in control of their own lives.
Big corps influence elections, the party you are voting and whole countries. Don't underestimate them and don't think their actions are good.
We should hope that the maintainers of mastodon and other fediverse tools (or activitiypub in general) are not capitalists, who throw away their values, and the reason why they started those projects, over board for money. But there is a lot of money to make, so the pile of money will be huge and it will be hard to say no.
The #fedipact isn't strict enough imho. The fediverse is like emails. If you want your emails not be scanned/slaughtered and your data sold to shady people/companies, you better not write important stuff to people who own a #gmail #hotmail #outlook #gmx #yahoo etc. address. With the fediverse it's a little bit different. Even the instances which aren't owned by meta could be a threat, because there is an access to the federated data. Instances that do not block meta should be blocked, too.
If you think I am polemic, please think about why a multi-(m/b)illion-dollar company wants to join the fediverse? Are they afraid of something, if yes, we shouldn't come closer, because powerful predators will attack if they are afraid. If the big corp is not afraid, the only other way is that they might slaughter the fediverse to get control and get richer.
In short: We build something very fragile like a sand castle and meta will be the bully destroying it.
The solution: Block meta as soon as their domains are known.
Addition: There are even rumors that admins of huge instances are getting paid to not block, but even advertise metas instance and they had to sign an #nda
#fediblock #blockmeta #metablock #facebook #p92 #barcelonaproject #fedipact #fediblockmeta #threads
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@finner I've addressed the why at length in an earlier toot: https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/110567869250237510. TL;DR: Manifest trust failure at the greatest possible level and significance.
The how is another question, though my point above suggests at least one evident option: increase the costs above Facebook's value threshold.
Simply being told "you are not welcome here" is one prospect, and should give ... some pause.
Defederation means that FB would be in much the position Gab was earlier: it's running the protocol, but not interfacing with the network.
Fediverse instances might respond to all FB content with an invitation to leave FB and join the Fediverse proper. This is one of several sabotage / response concepts which suggest themselves.
Fediverse instance could attack revenue streams, most critically advertising, in some way. How this might be done isn't clear, but FB-based brand channels would likely be sensitive to this.
Mastodon devs could gaslight FB with false leads, slow responses, and more. (Possibly challenging on a FOSS project, but ... not impossible.)
It's time to put on your Simple Sabotage Field Manual hat, peeps. https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf (PDF)
#Sabotage #Factbook #Meta #metablock #p92 #Project92 #FuckFacebook #Zuckerberg #MarkZuckerberg #FuckTheZuck
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@finner There was a long-standing false trope about free software development that conflated the potential for anybody to contribute to the code with anybody can contribute to a codebase.
The licence permits redistribution, modification, and by extension, forking. The project administrator however exercises control over what goes into their branch of the project. As Linus Torvalds has often said, his main job (for a few decades now) has been to say "No". As in "no, that patch is not entering the kernel*.
This gets more complicated when a single large entity can control and direct both development and specification. The capacity to empty dumpsters full of cash on developers to do what you tell them to do ... is an effective mechanism for control over a project, and if you happen to own a money-minting machine (Google, Facebook, Amazon, Oracle, IBM), then you're going to have an outsized influence on development. Indeed we've seen Linux affected in this way to an extent, Chrome (and with it the HTML/CSS/JS specs) immensely by Google, and various communications protocols by numerous entities (chat, email, voice, social media, video).
In the case of ActivityPub and the Fediverse, I see two main concerns:
FB swamping the cultural dynamic and information flows. Even conservatively FB are at least 1,000x larger than the present Fediverse, and I suspect that's an underestimation.
FB hijacking aspects of the protocol and clients themselves. There are plenty of extant examples of this, and it might be possible even without malicious intent. Mastodon has (/me checks Github...) 830 contributors, and I'd suspect that a power-law distribution holds, with a small fraction of those dominating. FB have > 58k employees, and even if only 10% of that is engineering, that's approaching 10x Mastodon's development team. Keep in mind that non-engineer contributors can also provide useful roles (PMs, QA, etc., etc.)
The fact that both the comms protocol and the development licence are open in no way whatsover compels other Fediverse instances, or the Mastodon project itself, to accept traffic or code from FB. And the harms which might come from doing so, based on historical precedent, are huge.
#meta #metablock #project92 #p92 #barcelonaproject #facebook #mastodon #fediverse #FreeSoftware
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Ich höre gerade zum ersten mal von dem allem. Ich bin noch weit davon entfernt mir eine endgültige Meinung zu bilden, aber was ich
rausgefunden habe beim lesen durch #Project92 ist dass Meta geld in die Hand nimmt um, ja was genau zu machen?
Admins zu kaufen? Devs zu bezahlen?
Beides kann gut oder schlecht sein.#Google zB. ist jetzt auch nicht das sympathischte Unternehmen. Trotzdem bin ich Dankbar für #ProjectZero und besonders fürs Engagement bei SSL