#fediblockmeta — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #fediblockmeta, aggregated by home.social.
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Probably decent people getting upset with what others kinda force them to experience. It can be annoying but it's part of being human. I think this is at the heart of our small vs big fedi and defederate for bad views and misinfo debate. People don't want to acknowledge it. It's why many demand content warnings. It's why my ask that we focus moderation on unwanted tagging isn't enough. They want groups with proper vetting of newbies, not social media.
https://www.salon.com/2013/08/01/white_music_fans_are_afraid_of_difference/
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Please consider that journalists, politicians, activists, governments and maybe most media creators want to maximize their reach, even if you do not want to use social media in that way. And a lot of them would like that to be organic, once they recognize the Faustian bargain of corporate algos etc.
Also how many of your family members would not be welcome to honestly express their political and cultural opinions here?
We're squandering the potential of #ActivityPub.
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A subject that definitely needs more discussion. But please recall that early Twitter had a very different culture before the masses showed up too. That would happen if the fedi was widely adopted. And that happened before it had ads or algos.
I do think we need a norm change to make it happen though, focusing moderation on unwanted tagging and not blocking servers for claimed misinfo or what maybe almost everyone thinks are shitty opinions.
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CW: Fedi hive mind
Looking for a site: “it’s been x days since a tech bro built a scraper”?
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RE: https://floss.social/@admin/116319431629873771
old enough to remember our server leading a principled stance against gab, facebook threads, and now llms.🩵
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is an account like this spamming hashtags such that it should be moderated at the server level (not just by individual users themselves)? I really don't know. It's not malicious but if you follow those hashtags, your feed is full of such posts. #fediblockmeta
https://mastodon.social/@VerdantSquareRadio/116229013261903128
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I wonder if the people who abuse the Fediblock hashtag for petty disputes and drama know that all the other admins are watching (even if only out of necessity), and silently updating their notes accordingly
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The idea of a default blocklist for the fedi is not a horrible idea. Harassment (a refusal to police unwanted tagging) and malware are good reasons to defederate a server. But "hate speech" is not when it's never forced on you and everybody is allowed to say anything on a blog. And how should such a list be maintained? But I'm also glad it's public.
A good network requires both decent interaction norms and then an expectation of connection.
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We would love to see hyperlocal Mastodon (or other fediverse software) instances. See https://www.empathyforward.org/2025/12/community-based-fediverse-instances/ for more thoughts on it. Of course, there are responsibilities.
We’re working on a service that can help manage the list of blocked and limited servers to make it easier to create a welcoming community. We are also considering adding some spam detection abilities as well.
What other services would help you create a great Mastodon community?
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we need decentralized social media to be civil. that when we interact, it should be respectful even when we are critical. no matter how evil you think the person you are responding to is.
but when we are just posting our thoughts or boosting something and no one is being tagged, being angry or rude or misinformed should be accepted. someone who posts or boosts something you find problematic doesn't need to be blocked, just unfollow them. no algo will make you see it.
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CW: Suspension of [email protected] and [email protected], CW: racism, trans erasure
We don't approve of "The Fedilore Otter" due to their obsession with stalking the Black queer users of the fediverse. Currently they're implying that a queer Black user who called out the following posts fetishizing "brown women" and bragging about their nazi ancestry, is bad.
Calling out the absent reference isn't bad. The issue here is that transtina has used women of color as a fetish publicly and then also described their nazi ancestors as "fun lore", which to people of color whom were/are targets of fascism, isn't "fun" and can't tell if you're joking.
The fediblock hashtag was called for by a Black trans person in this case, and as a general reminder, the fediblock hashtag was started by Marcia X, a person of color, to protect against serial sexual harassment. She has a write up here where she describes being stalked and dealing with racism.
When you make a post about Black, Indigenous, or other people of color, you consent to people of those communities deciding if what you've said is appropriate, because you're talking about them, without knowing what it's like to walk in their shoes.
Fedilore Otter targets 3-4 Black queer/trans users consistently and often uses the marginalizations of the (almost always white) individuals that are being called out for racism to make them appear more charitable. For instance, they'll say something like, "a Jewish run instance" or "a transfem run instance" as if that allows those instances to host racist users with no repercussions.
One marginalization does not justify you being racist though.
In this instance, fedilore has implied that being trans and Jewish allows for racism, and by doing so, they've also erased that the Black user they're targeting is also trans, because they want to make it seem as a random cis person is attacking a trans person, but that is not the case.
A Black trans person has called out a white trans person for racism, and nothing more.
Left photo, fedilore's post, right photo, the post that fedilore is defending.
Edit 1: updated after another user provided more info on Marcia X. Thank you!
Edit 2: Adding one of the blackqueer.life admin's evidence links as well:
https://blackqueer.life/@tillshadeisgone/113159014872182232Edit 3: there seems to be a pattern of attacking trans masculine people for some reason. Here is the latest example with explanation:
https://pizza.enby.city/@tootadmin/116384819244487187 -
People liked my previous post providing advice to new fediverse users
https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80
so today I'm going to tackle a new topic: what is fediblock? If you've hung out here for bit, you may have heard someone talk about fediblock and not understood what they meant. What do people mean when they say "fediblock?"
Note: The intended audience of this post is users who are new to the fediverse trying to understand what's going on. It is not a guide to mods/admins. I am not qualified to write a guide on moderating on fedi. Hence, this post will contain simplifications of some ideas.
As stated in my previous post, moderation on the fediverse is handled by the living, breathing creatures who run your instance. When you report a post, a real person actually reads your report. But what happens after they read a report?
I'll use myself as an example. My full username is@[email protected]. The stuff that comes after the second "@" symbol is my instance: transfem.social. When I made my account, I agreed to the transfem.social terms of service, and only the mods of transfem.social can ban my account. If your username ends in anything other than "transfem.social," then you have a totally different team of mods and a totally different terms of service.
Let's imagine that I am scrolling through the fediverse and I see a post made by @[email protected]. The post saysHi, I am an asshole bigot and I hate minority X.
I report the post for "bigotry directed at minority X." Since I am a transfem.social user, my report goes to the mods of transfem.social. But the user I reported is on example.com, not transfem.social. So what happens?
The mods of transfem.social have a few options. The first one is that they can work together with the mods of example.com. The example.com mods could decide to delete the post or ban the user.
But what happens if the example.com mods decide that @[email protected] has done nothing wrong?
One option is that the transfem.social mods can hide the post, making it invisible to transfem.social users. The post is still there, and anyone who is not a transfem.social user can see it normally.
A more severe option is to suspend the user @[email protected]. If the mods take this step, it has the effect of all transfem.social users blocking the asshole automatically. The asshole is not banned from the fediverse: their account still works, they can continue to post. They just can't interact with transfem.social users.
As an even more extreme step, the mods of transfem.social could "defederate" from example.com. That would mean all transfem.social users automatically block all example.com users. Defederation can be very disruptive, especially if users from the two instances are already following each other. Most fedi mods will not use defederation without considering it very carefully. Defederation is commonly used to block instances with lots of illegal content, or instances completely dominated by bigotry.
I started this post by promising to tell you what "fediblock" is, but I haven't actually done that yet. The word fediblock (a portmanteau of "fediverse" and "block") has two slightly different meanings. Sometimes it is used as a synonym for defederation: One instance fediblocks another instance.
Other times, folks use the word fediblock to refer to talking about defederation: A mod could publicly post something like "My instance just defederated from example.com. If you're a mod of another instance, you should consider blocking them too!" Posts of this sort usually use the hashtag # fediblock.
The fediblock hashtag is mostly used by mods to communicate with mods of other instances, but anyone can use it. I made a fediblock post two years ago when I encountered an instance that was nothing but spambots.
It's usually recommended to use the fediblock hashtag only if you are explicitly calling for defederation of a specific instance. If you are just generally talking about fediblock, as I am doing in this post, it's common to use the hashtag #FediblockMeta instead.
In summary: Due to the fediverse not having a central authority, the way moderation works behind the scenes is more complicated. "fediblock" is a term used by mods communicating. As a non-mod user, you can usually ignore the complexities and just report bad stuff when you see it. But if you wanted to know what people are talking about when they talk about fediblock, I hope this post was enlightening. -
Just found out this account exists: @8124
It reports on what it considers antisemitism. Sometimes I might agree. Sometimes it might be slanderous. But what's interesting here imo is using these claims to try to censor the fedi. How lefties are more likely to validate such demands re racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic etc posts.
Same shit. Unless it's illegal, unwanted tagging or something posted on your server - it should all be ignored. Keep it open like the web.
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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CW: Fediblock meta regarding disabled.social, nazi imagery
We noticed that disabled.social is being disparaged openly and we would like to make an official post defending them and requesting a fediblock of the person who is after that instance. Attached you'll find screenshots of the user in question and what they said to get an official strike from disabled.social. Users of this instance reported @[email protected] because of the following post in the first screenshot.
The reason it was reported is that the (war) game in question, [The Campaign for North Africa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa), is a nazi game about colonizing Africa. The game is played with 10 players. 5 of the players are required to be nazis. The game takes over 1000 hours complete and can't be played unless 5 players cosplay as nazis during that time. The cover of the board game features a well known nazi.
The game allows whomever wins to colonize Africa. Due to its featuring of nazis and colonization, we do not allow playing this game on our instance and reported it to disabled.social.
Being Jewish is not an excuse to fantasize about being a nazi or colonizing Africa.
The admins of disabled.social took down their post that is screenshoted below and this caused fallonturing to be upset and call the admins of disabled.social antisemitic. Their backlash is what got them removed from the instance. Had they just accepted that nazi cosplay is not a joke, they would still have their account.
We'd also like to comment on the fact that the reason the admins took as long as they did to respond is because they're disabled and actively going through surgeries at the moment. They have limited spoons for these kinds of things and do their best.
We've included a second screenshot of the post made from @[email protected] that triggered us creating this post.
Note: This post is not a location where nazi wargamers are welcome to discuss their opinions. Should they do so, they will be suspended immediately.
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"die slur" etc replies deter use of the fedi. servers that don't moderate their users to prevent this (jerk fedi) should be fedi blocked in order to support the growth of the network.
should HOA (Homeowner Association - that's not allowed here etc) replies be treated the same way?
should replies that try to deter conservatives from being able to express their opinions anywhere on the widely federated part of the network (main) be treated the same way?
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Blocked by another lefty for trying to make a nuanced argument about the future of fedi and censorship. Started the conversation so I tried to explain myself and they claimed I was ignorant and angry and then swore at me while blocking me. Still gotta say that's better than the "die slur" shit you get from the right.
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On a decentralized network without corporate algorithms, we only need to blocklist abusive accounts. Basically troll spam.
We don't make it impossible to browse to any website, or deny people with horrible ideas who post shitty but legal speech, the right to put up a website. And yet we all never see the worst stuff out there.
We're only getting dumber/meaner because big tech profits off triggering everybody with crap. General blocklists on open networks won't help.
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FYI - quote boosts can be used to try to create mobs to harass people to force them off the platform, for not supporting trans folk too.
we can't have a #SocialWeb where bad opinions are not allowed, or where abuse towards people expressing those views is allowed. well not if we care about a big fedi. we actually don't need federation at all if we'd like everybody with conflicting views to be on separate platforms anyway.
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If you want to support me you can:
* donate to the @FediverseFoundation
* report malicious content (when in doubt, report)
* report bad instances to the FediBlock hashtag
* research which instance best fits you and migrate away from mastodon.social
* wear a mask in public
* don't go to work sick
* vaccinate
* help me out with my bills (I pay 5€ a day for supplements excluding medication, because of a PAIS [post accute infectious syndrome like post covid, mecfs or whatever] - my health bills alone exceed my income)
* spread empathy, not hate
* use your brain, not a billionaire-funded neuronal network
* teach your kids cooperation instead of competition
* be kind to yourself and others
* don't judge yourself if you can't support me with all or any of these pointsThank you for your support!
:flan_heart:#FediverseFoundation #FediBlockMeta #MastodonSocial #WearAMask #vaccination #pais #PostCovid #LongCovid #mecfs #empathy #SpreadKindness
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CW: Dull anti-Jewish and fediblock meta
I dunno. This network isn't automatically free of racism.
But if there's a public forum about moderation, where no-one could be seen agreeing with the boring part, maybe it's not working very well?
(Or it's a federated forum that's fractured, and it's not working on my side of the netsplit. Great). #fediblockmeta
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CW: Dull anti-Jewish and fediblock meta
Boring #fediblockmeta : The following is not in the spirit of local rules:
"I have a lot against the Jews who don't [...] openly condemn their fascist government". As a response to a news article, which is about a country other than Israel.
Moderation can be complex. This little bit ^ is less so.
If I thought someone was asked not to do this, they ended up doubling down, and were very loud about being in the right, it makes an overall decision less complex.
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If you're annoyed at the demands for content warnings, tone policing and general HOA culture here on fedi, then you understand the problem people have with wokeism and cancel culture. Same with demanding that servers or bridges letting people access bad people or ideas be cut off.
How did we share the web this long without attacking the untrue and offensive content there that we might stumble upon? Somehow we all decided it was ok and ventured beyond AOL...
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Watching the latest mods-vs-mods #FediDrama unfolding on FediBlock, glad I'm not getting involved. :blobcoffeeraccoon:
(Seriously though, I don't have the time or energy to get involved in anything right now, but if y'all ever want someone to mediate in the future, feel free to ask me)
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After everybody has their social media platforms separated by politics, where do the people fighting for Palestine go to when we're repeatedly called antisemitic?
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Old school Twitter had no algos and no ads but did have conservatives. Two out of three ain't enough.
We must find a way to get them here but not allow the harassment that drives others away. The web manages it without becoming a Nazi bar. Let people interact but don't let anybody force others to do so.
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I'm glad that there was a successful pressure campaign to get #JimmyKimmel back on the air. I wish we could organize one to help the people of #Gaza.
But if I support such efforts, I can't agree that we should moderate on social media against such actions when taken to get certain books out of schools or other conservative movements.
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Is there anything like the Mastodon Server Convenant but re who servers should federate with, instead of which servers Mastodon gGmbH will recommend to newbies?
The first point is "active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia". Very disputed terms and if we want everyone here, we'll need to federate with (but perhaps ignore) people many consider mean/mistaken. What about they need to do "active moderation against harassing users"? Users we can't avoid.
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Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @bright_helpings and @roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?
This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.
No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?
Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.
I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.
It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).
Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.
Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)
Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.
Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.
Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with- GNU social, the successor to @Evan Prodromou's StatusNet from 2008 (the actual start of the Fediverse, eight years older than Mastodon)
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Friendica, now maintained by @Tobias and @Michael 🇺🇦
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Hubzilla
Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.
That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.
Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.
One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)
You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?
Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.- https://friendica.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/friendica
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=friendica
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=forte
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=forte
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=forte
Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.
Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.
As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.- #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
- #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post. -
Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @bright_helpings and @roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?
This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.
No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?
Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.
I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.
It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).
Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.
Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)
Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.
Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.
Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with- GNU social, the successor to @Evan Prodromou's StatusNet from 2008 (the actual start of the Fediverse, eight years older than Mastodon)
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Friendica, now maintained by @Tobias and @Michael 🇺🇦
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Hubzilla
Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.
That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.
Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.
One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)
You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?
Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.- https://friendica.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/friendica
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=friendica
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=forte
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=forte
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=forte
Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.
Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.
As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.- #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
- #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post. -
Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @bright_helpings and @roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?
This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.
No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?
Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.
I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.
It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).
Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.
Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)
Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.
Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.
Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with- GNU social, the successor to @Evan Prodromou's StatusNet from 2008 (the actual start of the Fediverse, eight years older than Mastodon)
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Friendica, now maintained by @Tobias and @Michael 🇺🇦
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Hubzilla
Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.
That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.
Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.
One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)
You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?
Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.- https://friendica.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/friendica
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=friendica
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=forte
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=forte
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=forte
Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.
Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.
As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.- #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
- #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post. -
Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @bright_helpings and @roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?
This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.
No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?
Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.
I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.
It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).
Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.
Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)
Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.
Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.
Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with- GNU social, the successor to @Evan Prodromou's StatusNet from 2008 (the actual start of the Fediverse, eight years older than Mastodon)
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Friendica, now maintained by @Tobias and @Michael 🇺🇦
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Hubzilla
Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.
That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.
Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.
One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)
You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?
Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.- https://friendica.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/friendica
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=friendica
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=forte
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=forte
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=forte
Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.
Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.
As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.- #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
- #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post. -
Are you referring to my mentions being @Erik :heart_agender: and @Roknrol rather than what you're used to, namely @bright_helpings and @roknrol? Using the long name rather than the short name and keeping the @ outside the link rather than making it part of the link? Likewise, the # being outside the hashtag link rather than being part of it?
This is because I'm not on Mastodon. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. It has never been. So this is not a toot.
No, really. This is what I post from: https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland, https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/profile/jupiter_rowland. I ask you: Does this look like Mastodon? Have you ever seen Mastodon look like this?
Where I am, this style of mentions and hashtags is hard-coded. And it has been since long before Mastodon was even an idea.
I'm on something named Hubzilla. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon instance. Hubzilla is not a Mastodon fork either. Hubzilla has got absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon at all.
It is its very own project, fully independent from Mastodon (https://hubzilla.org, https://framagit.org/hubzilla, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Hubzilla).
Hubzilla has not intruded into "the Mastodon Fediverse" either. The Fediverse is older than Mastodon. And Hubzilla was there before Mastodon.
Hubzilla was launched by @Mike Macgirvin ?️ in March, 2015, eight months before Mastodon, by renaming and redesigning his own Red Matrix from 2012, almost four years before Mastodon. And the Red Matrix was a fork of a fork of his own Friendica, which was launched on July 2nd, 2010, 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon. (https://en.wikipedia.org/Friendica, https://friendi.ca, https://github.com/friendica, https://joinfediverse.wiki/Friendica)
Friendica was there before Mastodon, too.
Here's the official Friendica/Hubzilla timeline on Hubzilla's official website to show you that I'm not making anything up: https://hubzilla.org/page/info/timeline. Scroll all the way down and notice all the features that you may right now know for a fact that the Fediverse doesn't have, but that Friendica has introduced to the Fediverse 15 years ago, five and a half years before Mastodon was launched.
Again, Mastodon has never been its own network. The Fediverse has never been only Mastodon. When Mastodon was launched in January, 2016, it immediately federated with- GNU social, the successor to @Evan Prodromou's StatusNet from 2008 (the actual start of the Fediverse, eight years older than Mastodon)
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Friendica, now maintained by @Tobias and @Michael 🇺🇦
- @Mike Macgirvin ?️'s Hubzilla
Friendica has been formatting mentions and hashtags the way I just did for 15 years now. When Mastodon was launched, Friendica has been formatting them that way for five and a half years already, and Hubzilla has done so for ten months. It is hard-coded there. It is not a user option.
That's because not everything in the Fediverse is a Twitter clone or Twitter alternative. [b]Friendica was designed as a Facebook alternative with full-blown long-form blogging capability. And Hubzilla adds even more stuff to this. This is why Friendica and Hubzilla don't mimic Twitter.
Another shocking fact: As you can clearly see here, Friendica and Hubzilla don't have Mastodon's 500-character limit. Friendica's character limit is 200,000. Hubzilla's character limit is 16,777,215, the maximum length of the database field. And it's deeply engrained in their culture, which is many years older than Mastodon's culture, to not worry about the length of a post exceeding 500 characters.
One more shocking fact: Friendica has had quote-posts since its very beginning. So has Hubzilla. Both have always been able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot, and they will forever remain able to quote-post any public Mastodon toot. And Mastodon will never be able to do anything against it. (By the way: In 15 years of Friendica, nobody has ever used quote-posts for dogpiling or harassment purposes. Neither Friendica nor Hubzilla is Twitter.)
You find this disturbing? You think none of this should exist in the Fediverse, even though all this has been in the Fediverse for longer than Mastodon?
Then go ahead and block all instances of Friendica and Hubzilla as well as all instances of Mike's later creations, (streams) (https://codeberg.org/streams/streams) from 2021 and Forte (https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte) from 2024.- https://friendica.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/friendica
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=friendica
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=friendica
- https://hubzilla.fediverse.observer/list
- https://fedidb.com/software/hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=hubzilla
- https://rumbly.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?type=streams_repository
- https://rumbly.net/communities?project=forte
- https://nomad.fedi-verse.hu/communities?project=forte
- https://streams.elsmussols.net/communities?project=forte
Or you could go ask @Seirdy / DM me the word "bread" and @Garden Fence Blocklist as well as @Mad Villain of @The Bad Space to add every last instance on any of these lists to their blocklists for being "rampantly and unabashedly ableist and xenophobic by design" due to not being and acting and working like Mastodon and just as rampantly and unabashedly refusing to fully adopt and adapt to the Mastodon-centric "Fediverse culture" as defined by fresh Twitter refugees on Mastodon in mid-2022 as well as refusing to abandon their own culture which is disturbingly incompatible with Mastodon's. Essentially try and have four entire Fediverse server applications Fediblocked once and for all because they're so disturbing from a "Fediverse equals Mastodon" point of view.
Or you could go to Mastodon's GitHub repository (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon), submit a feature request for defederating Mastodon from everything that isn't Mastodon by design and then go lobbying for support for your feature request.
As for why I have so many hashtags below my comments, here is what they mean. Many of them are meant to trigger filters, including such that automatically hide posts behind content warning buttons, a feature that Mastodon has had since October, 2022, that Friendica has had since July, 2010, and that Hubzilla has had since March, 2015.- #Long, #LongPost = This post is over 500 characters long. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #CWLong, #CWLongPost = CW: long post (over 500 characters long). Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see my or anyone else's long posts.
- #FediMeta, #FediverseMeta = This post talks about the Fediverse. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #CWFediMeta, #CWFediverseMeta = CW: Fediverse meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, Fediverse-beyond-Mastodon meta. Or: CW: Fediverse meta, non-Mastodon Fediverse meta. Create a filter for either or both of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone talk about the Fediverse.
- #NotOnlyMastodon, #FediverseIsNotMastodon, #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse: This post talks about the Fediverse not only being Mastodon. Create a filter for either or multiple or all of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about the Fediverse being more than Mastodon. Otherwise, click or tap any of these hashtags to read more about it in your Fediverse app.
- #Friendica: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Friendica. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Hubzilla: This post talks about the Swiss army knif of the Fediverse named Hubzilla. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Hubzilla. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Streams, #(streams): This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse commonly referred to as (streams). Create a filter for either or both of them if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Friendica. Otherwise, click or tap either of them to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #Forte: This post talks about the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse named Forte. Create a filter for it if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about Forte. Otherwise, click or tap it to read more about it in your Fediverse app. It is also meant for post discovery.
- #AltText = This post talks about alt-text and/or contains an image with alt-text. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #AltTextMeta = This post talks about alt-text. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #CWAltTextMeta = CW: alt-text meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about alt-text.
- #ImageDescription = This post talks about image descriptions and/or contains an image with an image description. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
- #ImageDescriptions, #ImageDescriptionMeta = This post talks about image descriptions. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #CWImageDescriptionMeta = CW: image description meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about image descriptions.
- #Hashtag, #Hashtags, #HashtagMeta = This post talks about hashtags. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CWHashtagMeta = CW: hashtag meta. Create a filter for this hashtag if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about hashtags.
- #CharacterLimit, #CharacterLimits = This post is talking about character limits. It is primarily meant for post discovery. But if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about character limits, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePost, #QuoteTweet, #QuoteToot, #QuoteBoost = This post talks about quote-posts and/or contains a quote-post. If this disturbs you, create a filter for any of these hashtags.
- #QuotePosts, #QuoteTweets, #QuoteToots, #QuoteBoosts, #QuotedShares = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #QuotePostDebate, #QuoteTootDebate = This post talks about quote-posts. Create a filter for either of these hashtags if you don't want to see me or anyone else talk about quote-posts.
- #FediblockMeta = This post is talking about fediblocks. It is primarily meant for post discovery.
Lastly: Having all hashtags in one line at the very end of a post that only contains hashtags is the preferred way in the Fediverse. For one, hashtags in their own line at the end of the post irritate screen reader users much less than hashtags in the middle of the text. It's actually hashtags in the middle of the text that are ableist. Besides, Mastodon is explicitly designed to have a separate hashtag line at the end of the post. -
The Ancient Greeks understood the difference between the freedom to say anything (#parrhesia) and defending a wide equality in sharing ideas for the public good (#isegoria). Edgelords favor the former but their trolling deters speech, being an attack on the latter. To stand up for democracy and an open culture, we must be harsh towards efforts to force speech on others but gentle with any actions that limit anybody's access to others' speech. #fediblockmeta #SocialWeb
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/two-concepts-of-freedom-of-speech/546791/
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The Ancient Greeks understood the difference between the freedom to say anything (#parrhesia) and defending a wide equality in sharing ideas for the public good (#isegoria). Edgelords favor the former but their trolling deters speech, being an attack on the latter. To stand up for democracy and an open culture, we must be harsh towards efforts to force speech on others but gentle with any actions that limit anybody's access to others' speech. #fediblockmeta #SocialWeb
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/two-concepts-of-freedom-of-speech/546791/
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The Ancient Greeks understood the difference between the freedom to say anything (#parrhesia) and defending a wide equality in sharing ideas for the public good (#isegoria). Edgelords favor the former but their trolling deters speech, being an attack on the latter. To stand up for democracy and an open culture, we must be harsh towards efforts to force speech on others but gentle with any actions that limit anybody's access to others' speech. #fediblockmeta #SocialWeb
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/two-concepts-of-freedom-of-speech/546791/
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Es encantador ver en los bloqueos de instancias ("desfederación" en jerga fediversal) el estado de guerra "fría" en que se ha sumido nuestro mundo. ¡Un telón de acero divide al panóptico digital!
(Resulta ser de papel higiénico, con más agujeros que un colador, etc: contrabandear datos es más sencillo que robarle los caramelos a un niño, está al alcance incluso de otro niño.)
Amplío: me refiero al mundo de ahí afuera, no sólo a esta red de nerds, hippies y desviades. Sí, las redes reflejan el mundo "real" y todas las cualidades de la gente que lo habitamos, ¿¡quién lo hubiera dicho!?
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I assumed #xitter still did this but #DouglasMurray complained about not being able to stop the service from pushing crazy shit at him he didn't ask for, and #JoeRogan and #DaveSmith agreed.
That's not free speech. Only the #SocialWeb is capable of that, if we can learn to only moderate for harassment. #fediblockmeta
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I assumed #xitter still did this but #DouglasMurray complained about not being able to stop the service from pushing crazy shit at him he didn't ask for, and #JoeRogan and #DaveSmith agreed.
That's not free speech. Only the #SocialWeb is capable of that, if we can learn to only moderate for harassment. #fediblockmeta
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I assumed #xitter still did this but #DouglasMurray complained about not being able to stop the service from pushing crazy shit at him he didn't ask for, and #JoeRogan and #DaveSmith agreed.
That's not free speech. Only the #SocialWeb is capable of that, if we can learn to only moderate for harassment. #fediblockmeta
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@Tuxi ⁂ Was stört's die deutsche Eiche, wenn sich die Sau an ihr reibt?
Was stört's den Friendica-Nutzer, wenn der Riesennode, auf dem er ist, von 8000 Mastodon-Instanzen blockiert wird, weil Friendica Mastodons Quote-Post-Opt-In/Opt-Out nicht berücksichtigt? Und auf über 700 *key-Instanzen, weil deren Admins gar nicht wissen, warum zum Fediblock dieses Node aufgerufen wurde, aber vorsichtshalber mal mitmachen?
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Friendica #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteTröt #QuoteTröts #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebatte #QuoteTrötDebatte #FediblockMeta -
climatejustice.social proudly doesn't federate with:
@[email protected]
@[email protected]
@[email protected]
or their servers.#FediPact #FediBlockMeta #HateSpeechIsNotFreeSpeech #ModerationIsNotCensorship
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"#MDNI #DNI" is one of the most pointless things I've ever seen here in the #fediverse. :reimu_sigh: Doesn't help that it's a #redflag since they're usually used by the real nasties (pedos) :ablobcateyeroll:
#fediversemeta #fediblockmeta #fediblockmetameta
RE: https://mastodon.social/users/hexaheximal/statuses/111875415919276890 -
"#MDNI #DNI" is one of the most pointless things I've ever seen here in the #fediverse. :reimu_sigh: Doesn't help that it's a #redflag since they're usually used by the real nasties (pedos) :ablobcateyeroll:
#fediversemeta #fediblockmeta #fediblockmetameta
RE: https://mastodon.social/users/hexaheximal/statuses/111875415919276890 -
Single user instance
Me when I spread #misinformation :aya_spreading_misinformation: (lea.petwhich is a #Sharkey instance has 120 different users as of writing lol, it's obvious this person hasn't even bothered to check before publishing this toot lol :reimu_sigh:)reply guy
Don't want annoyed people with #ADHD like @[email protected] getting into your notifs? Then don't spam the fediblockmeta hashtag (which plenty of moderators watch) when there's nothing about fediblock in it! :reimu_sigh:anime avatar
#cirno is from #touhou and #2hu is not an #anime lol, yet another obvious display of ignorance and no research :reimu_sigh:neo-Nazis
Says the one with "tranny" in display name. :ablobcateyeroll:
Obvious bogus #fediblock recommendation is bogus, move along people. In fact I'd probably suspend the wholemastodon.cute.camp#Mastodon instance if I were you, not in the mood to deal with #white, western people #gaslighting the #fediverse, tbh. :seija_coffee:
#fediblockmeta
RE: https://mastodon.cute.camp/users/mathilde/statuses/112098528709204765 -
#fedipact who? lol
I'd rather not really care about this signature thing which essentially is #virtuesignalling. Personally I don't really mind if I'm in an instance that blocks #Threads or not. Allow, suspend, limit, go do your thing and leave others alone. If I really need to anyway I can always go to another instance that allows federation.
What I'm not comfortable with all this hype is what's basically "adminjerking", where #fediadmins unironically circlejerking each other over how it's so cool to decide for hundreds or thousands of users on who they can interact with. Glorification of "admin authority" so to speak.
I'd rather not have any part of it. :seija_coffee:
#fediblockmeta
RE: https://bv.umbrellix.org/objects/d0ee4c9f-d4ad-4d8d-b858-6bda48caeb04