#fediblockmeta — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #fediblockmeta, aggregated by home.social.
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I know my "federate with everybody except trolls" norm for fedi comes off as weird, but I haven't heard a good argument. especially when I then ask what social media should our nice conservative family members use. people just want to say fuck Nazis (cause yes it feels good) and virtue signal by opposing all conservatives here. except doing so helps the bad guy army grow IRL.
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I can put up a blog with whatever (legal) text I want and nobody will try to stop you from linking to it. Or browsing to it. Even the idea is absurd.
But put that same text in a fedi server post (nobody is tagged) and most of the fedi might try to prevent their users from even knowing your server exists, much less browse accounts or follow anybody there.
It's fucking insane. I can only imagine that they are traumatized by platform algos and scared they will follow them here.
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Fedi developers are good intentioned but in their refusal to ruffle feathers (esp of those already mistreated by society), they are spending a lot of time building tools to try to accommodate every way that humans can possibly disagree and annoy each other. An impossible job.
And every new thing they come up with will make the average user feel that this place is too complicated for them. The STEM approach to a social science problem. Our biases blind us.
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@[email protected] matching well with the amount of bot spam on the public timeline... blocking those account leaves a lot of peace and less stress to the users... don't understand those #mastodont hosts that allows all this useless junk on their public timeline... if any, it should be followers only...
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Maybe the way to argue against a too censorious fedi culture is for the rest of us to start family based servers. To have lots of normies and lefties on them but also your rightwing uncle. To say to the censors, are you telling me he can't be here or widely federated cause he likes Trump even though you don't have to follow him, there's no algo to force his posts into your feed and he's clearly not an anonymous troll that intentionally bothers lefties etc?
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@[email protected]
Sorry about report ID:ansranb8ml9k0clf, which was forwarded by mistake when I pressed the wrong button.
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Probably decent people getting upset with what others kinda force them to experience. It can be annoying but it's part of being human. I think this is at the heart of our small vs big fedi and defederate for bad views and misinfo debate. People don't want to acknowledge it. It's why many demand content warnings. It's why my ask that we focus moderation on unwanted tagging isn't enough. They want groups with proper vetting of newbies, not social media.
https://www.salon.com/2013/08/01/white_music_fans_are_afraid_of_difference/
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Please consider that journalists, politicians, activists, governments and maybe most media creators want to maximize their reach, even if you do not want to use social media in that way. And a lot of them would like that to be organic, once they recognize the Faustian bargain of corporate algos etc.
Also how many of your family members would not be welcome to honestly express their political and cultural opinions here?
We're squandering the potential of #ActivityPub.
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A subject that definitely needs more discussion. But please recall that early Twitter had a very different culture before the masses showed up too. That would happen if the fedi was widely adopted. And that happened before it had ads or algos.
I do think we need a norm change to make it happen though, focusing moderation on unwanted tagging and not blocking servers for claimed misinfo or what maybe almost everyone thinks are shitty opinions.
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CW: Fedi hive mind
Looking for a site: “it’s been x days since a tech bro built a scraper”?
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RE: https://floss.social/@admin/116319431629873771
old enough to remember our server leading a principled stance against gab, facebook threads, and now llms.🩵
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is an account like this spamming hashtags such that it should be moderated at the server level (not just by individual users themselves)? I really don't know. It's not malicious but if you follow those hashtags, your feed is full of such posts. #fediblockmeta
https://mastodon.social/@VerdantSquareRadio/116229013261903128
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I wonder if the people who abuse the Fediblock hashtag for petty disputes and drama know that all the other admins are watching (even if only out of necessity), and silently updating their notes accordingly
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The idea of a default blocklist for the fedi is not a horrible idea. Harassment (a refusal to police unwanted tagging) and malware are good reasons to defederate a server. But "hate speech" is not when it's never forced on you and everybody is allowed to say anything on a blog. And how should such a list be maintained? But I'm also glad it's public.
A good network requires both decent interaction norms and then an expectation of connection.
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We would love to see hyperlocal Mastodon (or other fediverse software) instances. See https://www.empathyforward.org/2025/12/community-based-fediverse-instances/ for more thoughts on it. Of course, there are responsibilities.
We’re working on a service that can help manage the list of blocked and limited servers to make it easier to create a welcoming community. We are also considering adding some spam detection abilities as well.
What other services would help you create a great Mastodon community?
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we need decentralized social media to be civil. that when we interact, it should be respectful even when we are critical. no matter how evil you think the person you are responding to is.
but when we are just posting our thoughts or boosting something and no one is being tagged, being angry or rude or misinformed should be accepted. someone who posts or boosts something you find problematic doesn't need to be blocked, just unfollow them. no algo will make you see it.
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CW: Suspension of [email protected] and [email protected], CW: racism, trans erasure
We don't approve of "The Fedilore Otter" due to their obsession with stalking the Black queer users of the fediverse. Currently they're implying that a queer Black user who called out the following posts fetishizing "brown women" and bragging about their nazi ancestry, is bad.
Calling out the absent reference isn't bad. The issue here is that transtina has used women of color as a fetish publicly and then also described their nazi ancestors as "fun lore", which to people of color whom were/are targets of fascism, isn't "fun" and can't tell if you're joking.
The fediblock hashtag was called for by a Black trans person in this case, and as a general reminder, the fediblock hashtag was started by Marcia X, a person of color, to protect against serial sexual harassment. She has a write up here where she describes being stalked and dealing with racism.
When you make a post about Black, Indigenous, or other people of color, you consent to people of those communities deciding if what you've said is appropriate, because you're talking about them, without knowing what it's like to walk in their shoes.
Fedilore Otter targets 3-4 Black queer/trans users consistently and often uses the marginalizations of the (almost always white) individuals that are being called out for racism to make them appear more charitable. For instance, they'll say something like, "a Jewish run instance" or "a transfem run instance" as if that allows those instances to host racist users with no repercussions.
One marginalization does not justify you being racist though.
In this instance, fedilore has implied that being trans and Jewish allows for racism, and by doing so, they've also erased that the Black user they're targeting is also trans, because they want to make it seem as a random cis person is attacking a trans person, but that is not the case.
A Black trans person has called out a white trans person for racism, and nothing more.
Left photo, fedilore's post, right photo, the post that fedilore is defending.
Edit 1: updated after another user provided more info on Marcia X. Thank you!
Edit 2: Adding one of the blackqueer.life admin's evidence links as well:
https://blackqueer.life/@tillshadeisgone/113159014872182232Edit 3: there seems to be a pattern of attacking trans masculine people for some reason. Here is the latest example with explanation:
https://pizza.enby.city/@tootadmin/116384819244487187 -
People liked my previous post providing advice to new fediverse users
https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80
so today I'm going to tackle a new topic: what is fediblock? If you've hung out here for bit, you may have heard someone talk about fediblock and not understood what they meant. What do people mean when they say "fediblock?"
Note: The intended audience of this post is users who are new to the fediverse trying to understand what's going on. It is not a guide to mods/admins. I am not qualified to write a guide on moderating on fedi. Hence, this post will contain simplifications of some ideas.
As stated in my previous post, moderation on the fediverse is handled by the living, breathing creatures who run your instance. When you report a post, a real person actually reads your report. But what happens after they read a report?
I'll use myself as an example. My full username is@[email protected]. The stuff that comes after the second "@" symbol is my instance: transfem.social. When I made my account, I agreed to the transfem.social terms of service, and only the mods of transfem.social can ban my account. If your username ends in anything other than "transfem.social," then you have a totally different team of mods and a totally different terms of service.
Let's imagine that I am scrolling through the fediverse and I see a post made by @[email protected]. The post saysHi, I am an asshole bigot and I hate minority X.
I report the post for "bigotry directed at minority X." Since I am a transfem.social user, my report goes to the mods of transfem.social. But the user I reported is on example.com, not transfem.social. So what happens?
The mods of transfem.social have a few options. The first one is that they can work together with the mods of example.com. The example.com mods could decide to delete the post or ban the user.
But what happens if the example.com mods decide that @[email protected] has done nothing wrong?
One option is that the transfem.social mods can hide the post, making it invisible to transfem.social users. The post is still there, and anyone who is not a transfem.social user can see it normally.
A more severe option is to suspend the user @[email protected]. If the mods take this step, it has the effect of all transfem.social users blocking the asshole automatically. The asshole is not banned from the fediverse: their account still works, they can continue to post. They just can't interact with transfem.social users.
As an even more extreme step, the mods of transfem.social could "defederate" from example.com. That would mean all transfem.social users automatically block all example.com users. Defederation can be very disruptive, especially if users from the two instances are already following each other. Most fedi mods will not use defederation without considering it very carefully. Defederation is commonly used to block instances with lots of illegal content, or instances completely dominated by bigotry.
I started this post by promising to tell you what "fediblock" is, but I haven't actually done that yet. The word fediblock (a portmanteau of "fediverse" and "block") has two slightly different meanings. Sometimes it is used as a synonym for defederation: One instance fediblocks another instance.
Other times, folks use the word fediblock to refer to talking about defederation: A mod could publicly post something like "My instance just defederated from example.com. If you're a mod of another instance, you should consider blocking them too!" Posts of this sort usually use the hashtag # fediblock.
The fediblock hashtag is mostly used by mods to communicate with mods of other instances, but anyone can use it. I made a fediblock post two years ago when I encountered an instance that was nothing but spambots.
It's usually recommended to use the fediblock hashtag only if you are explicitly calling for defederation of a specific instance. If you are just generally talking about fediblock, as I am doing in this post, it's common to use the hashtag #FediblockMeta instead.
In summary: Due to the fediverse not having a central authority, the way moderation works behind the scenes is more complicated. "fediblock" is a term used by mods communicating. As a non-mod user, you can usually ignore the complexities and just report bad stuff when you see it. But if you wanted to know what people are talking about when they talk about fediblock, I hope this post was enlightening. -
Just found out this account exists: @8124
It reports on what it considers antisemitism. Sometimes I might agree. Sometimes it might be slanderous. But what's interesting here imo is using these claims to try to censor the fedi. How lefties are more likely to validate such demands re racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic etc posts.
Same shit. Unless it's illegal, unwanted tagging or something posted on your server - it should all be ignored. Keep it open like the web.
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From now on, whenever I report a new remote troll, I'm going to include "please moderate your signups" in the report.
I might add "Or pay me for doing your moderation work." at some later point.
#moderation #MastodonSocial #FediBlockTrolls #FediMod #FediAdmin #MastoMod #MastoAdmin #FediBlockMeta
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CW: Fediblock meta regarding disabled.social, nazi imagery
We noticed that disabled.social is being disparaged openly and we would like to make an official post defending them and requesting a fediblock of the person who is after that instance. Attached you'll find screenshots of the user in question and what they said to get an official strike from disabled.social. Users of this instance reported @[email protected] because of the following post in the first screenshot.
The reason it was reported is that the (war) game in question, [The Campaign for North Africa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa), is a nazi game about colonizing Africa. The game is played with 10 players. 5 of the players are required to be nazis. The game takes over 1000 hours complete and can't be played unless 5 players cosplay as nazis during that time. The cover of the board game features a well known nazi.
The game allows whomever wins to colonize Africa. Due to its featuring of nazis and colonization, we do not allow playing this game on our instance and reported it to disabled.social.
Being Jewish is not an excuse to fantasize about being a nazi or colonizing Africa.
The admins of disabled.social took down their post that is screenshoted below and this caused fallonturing to be upset and call the admins of disabled.social antisemitic. Their backlash is what got them removed from the instance. Had they just accepted that nazi cosplay is not a joke, they would still have their account.
We'd also like to comment on the fact that the reason the admins took as long as they did to respond is because they're disabled and actively going through surgeries at the moment. They have limited spoons for these kinds of things and do their best.
We've included a second screenshot of the post made from @[email protected] that triggered us creating this post.
Note: This post is not a location where nazi wargamers are welcome to discuss their opinions. Should they do so, they will be suspended immediately.
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"die slur" etc replies deter use of the fedi. servers that don't moderate their users to prevent this (jerk fedi) should be fedi blocked in order to support the growth of the network.
should HOA (Homeowner Association - that's not allowed here etc) replies be treated the same way?
should replies that try to deter conservatives from being able to express their opinions anywhere on the widely federated part of the network (main) be treated the same way?
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Blocked by another lefty for trying to make a nuanced argument about the future of fedi and censorship. Started the conversation so I tried to explain myself and they claimed I was ignorant and angry and then swore at me while blocking me. Still gotta say that's better than the "die slur" shit you get from the right.
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On a decentralized network without corporate algorithms, we only need to blocklist abusive accounts. Basically troll spam.
We don't make it impossible to browse to any website, or deny people with horrible ideas who post shitty but legal speech, the right to put up a website. And yet we all never see the worst stuff out there.
We're only getting dumber/meaner because big tech profits off triggering everybody with crap. General blocklists on open networks won't help.
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FYI - quote boosts can be used to try to create mobs to harass people to force them off the platform, for not supporting trans folk too.
we can't have a #SocialWeb where bad opinions are not allowed, or where abuse towards people expressing those views is allowed. well not if we care about a big fedi. we actually don't need federation at all if we'd like everybody with conflicting views to be on separate platforms anyway.
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If you want to support me you can:
* donate to the @FediverseFoundation
* report malicious content (when in doubt, report)
* report bad instances to the FediBlock hashtag
* research which instance best fits you and migrate away from mastodon.social
* wear a mask in public
* don't go to work sick
* vaccinate
* help me out with my bills (I pay 5€ a day for supplements excluding medication, because of a PAIS [post accute infectious syndrome like post covid, mecfs or whatever] - my health bills alone exceed my income)
* spread empathy, not hate
* use your brain, not a billionaire-funded neuronal network
* teach your kids cooperation instead of competition
* be kind to yourself and others
* don't judge yourself if you can't support me with all or any of these pointsThank you for your support!
:flan_heart:#FediverseFoundation #FediBlockMeta #MastodonSocial #WearAMask #vaccination #pais #PostCovid #LongCovid #mecfs #empathy #SpreadKindness
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CW: Dull anti-Jewish and fediblock meta
I dunno. This network isn't automatically free of racism.
But if there's a public forum about moderation, where no-one could be seen agreeing with the boring part, maybe it's not working very well?
(Or it's a federated forum that's fractured, and it's not working on my side of the netsplit. Great). #fediblockmeta
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CW: Dull anti-Jewish and fediblock meta
Boring #fediblockmeta : The following is not in the spirit of local rules:
"I have a lot against the Jews who don't [...] openly condemn their fascist government". As a response to a news article, which is about a country other than Israel.
Moderation can be complex. This little bit ^ is less so.
If I thought someone was asked not to do this, they ended up doubling down, and were very loud about being in the right, it makes an overall decision less complex.