#nextge — Public Fediverse posts

@adrianfry @fkamiah17

(yawn...) not going balls-out in criticising the implementation of something 52% voted for because you calculate that would result in a net loss of votes at the #nextGE is NOT "support[ing] Hard #Brexit"

But some will use any stick however imaginary to beat those they dislike

Following his expulsion from Conservative party, MP Andrew #Bridgen has hit out at “corruption, collusion & cover-ups”, intends to stand again at the next election

Nowt to do with him comparing vaccine rollout to the #holocaust then?

Nice to see a #rightWingPopulist being punished for #antisemitism after what happened on the left last week - this fantasist will lose his deposit if he does stand

IMO #Abbott should be reinstated for #nextGE if her Stamford Hill constituents are OK with that

@Gerz

Well there we disagree. I think you are wrong about starmer, although I accept he is not the choice of the left

I can't understand all those repeatedly posting aggressive & rude comments about #labour leader when there is no other option south of the border that can form a govt other than #toriesOut

I kept my peace all the time #corbyn was leader, why can't you?

... in case you had not realised, #SNP have no love for #labour, who will likely take several seats off them #nextGE

@MadeyeTheCarnaptious @GeoffJohnson @ChrisMayLA6 @Gillinger

Well you may be right for many - but right now polling evidence is others think differently - with #snp poll lead over #labour dropping to single figures and the #toriesOut nowhere

I am sure come the #nextGE the snp will remain the most popular party - but labour will be a rather closer second than the tories were in 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Scotland

@TJ1001

Calm down..... I never said the #left are "communists" - I said their message is unpopular, and it is way more important to remove the #toriesOut than to include specific policies in the agenda that risk that.

I just want to see #labour win the #nextGE and we start from where we are.....

Quite why we have this argument beats me - do you not want #labour to win?

@TJ1001

We will only find out after the #nextGE

One thing certain - anyone who communicates like last leader did in 2019 would not have a > 20% lead - I know #leftWing don't like it, but #labour only ever won from #centre over last 5 decades

we need shot of #toriesOut more than we need #leftWing policies & longer in opposition

I am sanguine that current leader is in fact thoroughly decent & will improve politics - it's dull that #farLeft are so vitriolic about him, but sadly predictable

@TJ1001

I expect and demand that #labour make the #uk a less corruptible place after they win the #nextGE

Pointless indulging in traditional #leftWing nationalisation if the body politic is so open to #bigMoney #corruption - the focus should be on #regional distribution of power and removing the power of patronage from politicians

@junesim63

Who said anything about tweaking?

The point is - the #toriesOut are blinded by #populist emotional nonsense

#labour are not

I respect #green party - but they are not in the running to win the #nextGE

@TJ1001

#sharp will be sacked soon after the #nextGE.

The clock is running down on the #cameronToryEra - it cannot end soon enough - there has been enormous damage done already - by #austerity , by #brexit . by #corruption associated with the pandemic , by #nativist #populism and morally by the #vacuumOfIntegrity - that there will be further damage before they are eveicted from office is an inevitability I fear

@Dasy2k1 @ORIOliver @Gillinger @therightarticle

Not very like, really - it is a different world. The #toriesOut will not get re-elected at the #nextGE - though there is a fair chance our Reichstag - Westminster Palace - will burn down that will be down to the builders not a political plot

@techbatty @therightarticle

They deliberately fail to either make agreements with places like #albania for safe return - or to resource properly the destruction of the criminal gangs - because the one hope #toriesOut have to win support in the #nextGE is to still see lots of poeple coming on our beaches despite them being nasty to migrants........

@CountessEmma

There may be a small bounce in May for the locals - some regular #tory voters may turn out who would not had this not been agreed.

But the #nextGE is not going to be impacted much by this on the side of the Irish Sea where the #toriesOut stand candidates

@juneussell @AgainstLies

Quite..... my i this morning has the headline

#Starmer on course for landslide victory

Well premature given the #nextGE may not be for 18 months or more - but provided #labour avoid bear-pits till then I anticipate relief on the level of 1997 .....

This #toriesOut administration looks totally unfit - and nothing coming down the track is likely to save them from a richly deserved fate

@haq @OliverNoble

Whatever - I see you are not open to an alternate view

It matters not - the course is set all the way to the #nextGE - which #labour will win so long as they do not listen to the far left

@Palky55

Entirely predictable - #sunak will procrastinate rather than fight his own #ERG right-wingers & the #DUP

It may have to wait till after the #nextGE - the #nextPM will owe nothing to any of these people & will roll over them to make a deal with the #EU

@Palky55

Entirely predictable - #sunak will procrastinate rather than fight his own #ERG right-wingers & the #DUP

It may have to wait till after the #nextGE - the #nextPM will owe nothing to any of these people & will roll over them to make a deal with the #EU

@Palky55

Entirely predictable - #sunak will procrastinate rather than fight his own #ERG right-wingers & the #DUP

It may have to wait till after the #nextGE - the #nextPM will owe nothing to any of these people & will roll over them to make a deal with the #EU

@Palky55

Entirely predictable - #sunak will procrastinate rather than fight his own #ERG right-wingers & the #DUP

It may have to wait till after the #nextGE - the #nextPM will owe nothing to any of these people & will roll over them to make a deal with the #EU

@Palky55

Entirely predictable - #sunak will procrastinate rather than fight his own #ERG right-wingers & the #DUP

It may have to wait till after the #nextGE - the #nextPM will owe nothing to any of these people & will roll over them to make a deal with the #EU

@MadeyeTheCarnaptious @lassielmr @richard_f

#brexit would't be reversed in the next parliament under the #libDems in some alternate universe where they get a majority at #nextGE either

I realise there's an appetite for simple slogans in modern politics (hence #brexit ) but life isnt so simple

#UK position within #EU accreted over decades was smashed to pieces by #vacuumOfIntegrity - it will not be sellotaped back together

#labour has always been a #unionist party - no change there

@hollybrigstocke

Or maybe just win the #nextGE
and become PM?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#

@lassielmr @RalphBrooker

I agree - no chance #labour will "win back" #scotland from the #snp - which remains a coherent party of government.

But they should win more seats - the polls show they have twice the support that the #toriesOut have, and even allowing for the clustering of the right wing that flatters the Tories in terms of seats, it seems unlikely that labour will only win one #scottish seat in #nextGE

@RalphBrooker @lassielmr

The #toriesOut will certainly survive - it is scarcely credible right now that they would win the #nextGE but elimination of cockroaches is notoriously difficult. My hope now is that #labour manage in power well enough to win successive terms...... the odds of that are unquantifiable at present

@AndrewGuilford

Well #labour lost by a record amount in 2019 - whether it was the manifesto he led the creation of or the image of the leader that the right-wing press sold matters not.

So I am not sure what you mean by "popular with voters" - his successor may not be "popular" but polling shows many more expect to vote #labout #nextGE

@IndyRichard @TanAn

Doubt #putin would notice (#scotland too far away for him to invade) but otherwise I agree with you.

I expect #labour to gain & #toriesOut to lose seats in #scotland at #nextGE (labour poll at twice the support of the tories) - but #snp remain the dominant force

@EPK

What's that tune? "the only way is up"

By "further increase" I meant over & above those won from the hopeless #toriesOut

#labour may well be a distant second after the #nextGE in #scotland - but they will be second.

@hesgen

Well it is a bit early to tell onw way or the other, no?

I think it all depends whether the #snp falter or not - I rather like #anasSarwar & #labour will improve in the #nextGE in #scotland. Not so the #toriesOut

There is a star effect in politics & I think some of the SNP support may be down to #sturgeon personally - we will see

@robriley

hahahahaha!!!! Comedy, really....

There is no room for an alternate party on the #left - gorgeous #georgeGalloway tried an #islamic flavoured one in the days when he pretended he was a socialist and it sank quite quickly

I think odds are #corbyn will retire at #nextGE

@orangutanwriter

Well I guess if we had a world war and mobilised several hundred thousand into the army..... the conditions for a second #attlee might obtain.

But we are more in a state like that #haroldWilson had to face - and it looks like #labour could use a leader more like him. Failing that, I think #starmer will do

#left are pushing myth current labour leadership are some sort of tories in disguise - this says we will find out they are not after #nextGE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

@tomtucker

Indeed - movements in Irish economic activity (north & south of the border) will be dramatic due to #brexit since very small % of economic friction for #GB translates to a large % benefit for these much smaller economies

Thing to watch is cumulative impact of #brexit - that will grow for years as business moves from absorbing short term pain in current operations to remodelling those operations to take account of the new reality.

Whoever is elected #nextGE the UK is in trouble

@goochjs

Not sure #starmer would even read a #drax press release for just £12,000

I suspect it is just them keeping their options open as it becomes clear #toriesOut are unlikely to retain power at the #nextGE

Brax burning wood pellet produced from unsustainable felling in American forests is not green energy by any stretch

@lassielmr

So no change there then - no #unionist party will lead in #scotland for the foreseeable future- but the expectation is that #labour will be #2 there - albeit a long distance back in #sturgeon s rear view mirror

The choice in the #nextGE in terms of #ukGovernment is between labour & #toriesOut - I doubt many #scots prefer the latter

@MartinFarrent @MimiJ9

The current #labourLeadership seem risk-averse - unsurprising after 5 electoral defeats

I expect as we move closer to the #nextGE and publication of a #manifesto that the direction will become clearer.

Promising the unattainable - like #rejoin within a single term - is not a vote winner but actually puts people off.

#labour already has some bold policies - #lordsReplacement #nonDom tax status removal
removing #privateSchool charity status

I expect more soon

@ishabluebell

Bringing the #fatController back will not save the #toriesOut from losing power.

I rather doubt the lazy, lying ego will relish being #loto for an indefinite period after the #nextGE so if they are stupid enough to replace #sunak with him they will again run thru three leaders over a short period.

I wonder - could #starmer break the record for number of #tory leaders faced as #labourLeader ? That would make 5 if you count the ego twice

@madelainetaylor @OliverNoble

Not really - all that determines the result of the #nextGE is the way people vote. The rest is just feelings and opinions

You sound really angry - my anger is reserved for the #corrupt, #selfServing, #lying #ToriesOut who have done such huge damage to our country and continue to do so

@antipode77

"needs"?

It is not politically viable at the #nextGE - it will not be in the #labourManifesto which will seek to maximise their majority.

Exactly what do you think has happened in #italy and #israel recently? Coalitions driven by extremists

@arevvik

good call

We will not have an election called this year I think - but #starmer will not be able to spend 12 months without making some commitments that will have to appear in the #nextGe #labourManifesto

the #NHS is in a terrible state - I expect the #toriesOut to try and leverage that for further privatisation - I expect that to be opposed

@chrisgerhard @rossbright

I think you mistake short term tactics with long term strategy; I see no prospect of #labour becoming another #littleEngland party, nor of the #libDems allowing the oxygen for a rival #proEU party to launch. I seem to recall Chukka & co tried that in 2019 and crashed & burned.

You might want a political scenario that allows a #returnToEu within a few years, but I cannot see one...there will be a #majorityLabourGovt come the #nextGE

@chrisgerhard @rossbright

I think you mistake short term tactics with long term strategy; I see no prospect of #labour becoming another #littleEngland party, nor of the #libDems allowing the oxygen for a rival #proEU party to launch. I seem to recall Chukka & co tried that in 2019 and crashed & burned.

You might want a political scenario that allows a #returnToEu within a few years, but I cannot see one...there will be a #majorityLabourGovt come the #nextGE

@chrisgerhard @rossbright

I think you mistake short term tactics with long term strategy; I see no prospect of #labour becoming another #littleEngland party, nor of the #libDems allowing the oxygen for a rival #proEU party to launch. I seem to recall Chukka & co tried that in 2019 and crashed & burned.

You might want a political scenario that allows a #returnToEu within a few years, but I cannot see one...there will be a #majorityLabourGovt come the #nextGE

@chrisgerhard @rossbright

I think you mistake short term tactics with long term strategy; I see no prospect of #labour becoming another #littleEngland party, nor of the #libDems allowing the oxygen for a rival #proEU party to launch. I seem to recall Chukka & co tried that in 2019 and crashed & burned.

You might want a political scenario that allows a #returnToEu within a few years, but I cannot see one...there will be a #majorityLabourGovt come the #nextGE

@chrisgerhard @rossbright

I think you mistake short term tactics with long term strategy; I see no prospect of #labour becoming another #littleEngland party, nor of the #libDems allowing the oxygen for a rival #proEU party to launch. I seem to recall Chukka & co tried that in 2019 and crashed & burned.

You might want a political scenario that allows a #returnToEu within a few years, but I cannot see one...there will be a #majorityLabourGovt come the #nextGE

@jsolloso @eunews

I do not accept that - there is a world of difference between the Tories selecting a new PM from their midst having been elected and some #tinpot dictator

Having said that, I am very happy their bad choices since 2016 have (finally!) spelled the end of the dismal #cameronToryEra - the #nextGE cannot come too soon!

@adrianfry @davidstirrup

Never forget #starmer is a #lawyer - and was for many years unlike #planks like #billCash. So he is very cautious making commitments

Let us see what is in the #labourManifesto on the #EU - I suspect he will avoid any commitment till that is published - why would he?

I think an undertaking to join the #singleMarket is unlikely to be in the #nextGE manifesto - but it might be in the one for subsequent GE. I look for signs #labour will align with #EU this time

@MrsNettles

i think the #toriesOut are now worried about pleasing their base - or rather the #kipperTory end of it - they seem to have given up on the centre-right in favour of keeping #reform from eating their lunch

All of which means they are almost certain to lose the #nextGE assuming #labour do not mess up

@jd9856

#labours direction of travel is in that direction..... but: -

- #starmer will not make any specific commitment on #EU - he wants to win as big a majority as he can

- people grossly underestimate how long it will take - the EU will not treat with any #ukGovt at all on any sort of deal for quite some time - and labour will have to put any such putative deal in a #manifesto beforehand - but that will not be for the #nextGE but some later one

Sorry #euFans - that is the reality

@alexanderhay

Few - I predict Reform will lose many deposits come the #nextGE

It is rather juvenile to lambast those who live in less prosperous parts of #England for a #kipperTory mess largely caused by #homeCountiesTories