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  1. #SodiumIonBatteries offer an alternative to tricky #lithium

    Oct 26th 2023

    Excerpt: "Fortunately, lithium is not the only game in town. As we report this week, a clutch of firms are making batteries based on sodium, lithium’s elemental cousin. Since sodium’s chemical properties are very similar to those of lithium, it too makes for good batteries. And sodium, which is found in the salt in #seawater, is thousands of times more abundant on Earth than lithium and cheaper to get at. Most of the companies using sodium to make batteries today are also Chinese. But pursuing the technology in the West might be a surer route to energy security than relying heavily on lithium.

    "Besides its abundance, sodium has other advantages. The best lithium batteries use #cobalt and #nickel in their electrodes. Nickel, like lithium, is in short supply. #Mining it on land is #EnvironmentallyDestructive. Proposals to grab it from the #seabed instead have caused rows. A good deal of the world’s cobalt, meanwhile, is extracted from small mines in the #DemocraticRepublicOfCongo, where #ChildLabour is common and working conditions are dire. Sodium batteries, by contrast, can use #electrodes built from #iron and #manganese [and wood #lignin], which are plentiful and uncontroversial. Since the chemical components are cheap, a scaled-up industry should be able to produce batteries that cost less than their lithium counterparts.

    "Sodium is not a perfect replacement for lithium. It is heavier, meaning sodium batteries will weigh more than lithium ones of an equivalent capacity. That is likely to rule them out in some cases where lightness is paramount. But for other applications, such as #GridStorage or #HomeBatteries, weight is irrelevant. Several Chinese carmakers are even beginning to put sodium batteries in #ElectricVehicles."

    Read more:
    economist.com/leaders/2023/10/

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/7x6JX

    #SolarPunkSunday #EnergyStorage #SodiumIon #NewTechnology #GiantLeap #Reuse #WasteReuse #NoLithiumMining #NoMining

  2. #SodiumIonBatteries offer an alternative to tricky #lithium

    Oct 26th 2023

    Excerpt: "Fortunately, lithium is not the only game in town. As we report this week, a clutch of firms are making batteries based on sodium, lithium’s elemental cousin. Since sodium’s chemical properties are very similar to those of lithium, it too makes for good batteries. And sodium, which is found in the salt in #seawater, is thousands of times more abundant on Earth than lithium and cheaper to get at. Most of the companies using sodium to make batteries today are also Chinese. But pursuing the technology in the West might be a surer route to energy security than relying heavily on lithium.

    "Besides its abundance, sodium has other advantages. The best lithium batteries use #cobalt and #nickel in their electrodes. Nickel, like lithium, is in short supply. #Mining it on land is #EnvironmentallyDestructive. Proposals to grab it from the #seabed instead have caused rows. A good deal of the world’s cobalt, meanwhile, is extracted from small mines in the #DemocraticRepublicOfCongo, where #ChildLabour is common and working conditions are dire. Sodium batteries, by contrast, can use #electrodes built from #iron and #manganese [and wood #lignin], which are plentiful and uncontroversial. Since the chemical components are cheap, a scaled-up industry should be able to produce batteries that cost less than their lithium counterparts.

    "Sodium is not a perfect replacement for lithium. It is heavier, meaning sodium batteries will weigh more than lithium ones of an equivalent capacity. That is likely to rule them out in some cases where lightness is paramount. But for other applications, such as #GridStorage or #HomeBatteries, weight is irrelevant. Several Chinese carmakers are even beginning to put sodium batteries in #ElectricVehicles."

    Read more:
    economist.com/leaders/2023/10/

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/7x6JX

    #SolarPunkSunday #EnergyStorage #SodiumIon #NewTechnology #GiantLeap #Reuse #WasteReuse #NoLithiumMining #NoMining

  3. #SodiumIonBatteries offer an alternative to tricky #lithium

    Oct 26th 2023

    Excerpt: "Fortunately, lithium is not the only game in town. As we report this week, a clutch of firms are making batteries based on sodium, lithium’s elemental cousin. Since sodium’s chemical properties are very similar to those of lithium, it too makes for good batteries. And sodium, which is found in the salt in #seawater, is thousands of times more abundant on Earth than lithium and cheaper to get at. Most of the companies using sodium to make batteries today are also Chinese. But pursuing the technology in the West might be a surer route to energy security than relying heavily on lithium.

    "Besides its abundance, sodium has other advantages. The best lithium batteries use #cobalt and #nickel in their electrodes. Nickel, like lithium, is in short supply. #Mining it on land is #EnvironmentallyDestructive. Proposals to grab it from the #seabed instead have caused rows. A good deal of the world’s cobalt, meanwhile, is extracted from small mines in the #DemocraticRepublicOfCongo, where #ChildLabour is common and working conditions are dire. Sodium batteries, by contrast, can use #electrodes built from #iron and #manganese [and wood #lignin], which are plentiful and uncontroversial. Since the chemical components are cheap, a scaled-up industry should be able to produce batteries that cost less than their lithium counterparts.

    "Sodium is not a perfect replacement for lithium. It is heavier, meaning sodium batteries will weigh more than lithium ones of an equivalent capacity. That is likely to rule them out in some cases where lightness is paramount. But for other applications, such as #GridStorage or #HomeBatteries, weight is irrelevant. Several Chinese carmakers are even beginning to put sodium batteries in #ElectricVehicles."

    Read more:
    economist.com/leaders/2023/10/

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/7x6JX

    #SolarPunkSunday #EnergyStorage #SodiumIon #NewTechnology #GiantLeap #Reuse #WasteReuse #NoLithiumMining #NoMining

  4. #SodiumIonBatteries offer an alternative to tricky #lithium

    Oct 26th 2023

    Excerpt: "Fortunately, lithium is not the only game in town. As we report this week, a clutch of firms are making batteries based on sodium, lithium’s elemental cousin. Since sodium’s chemical properties are very similar to those of lithium, it too makes for good batteries. And sodium, which is found in the salt in #seawater, is thousands of times more abundant on Earth than lithium and cheaper to get at. Most of the companies using sodium to make batteries today are also Chinese. But pursuing the technology in the West might be a surer route to energy security than relying heavily on lithium.

    "Besides its abundance, sodium has other advantages. The best lithium batteries use #cobalt and #nickel in their electrodes. Nickel, like lithium, is in short supply. #Mining it on land is #EnvironmentallyDestructive. Proposals to grab it from the #seabed instead have caused rows. A good deal of the world’s cobalt, meanwhile, is extracted from small mines in the #DemocraticRepublicOfCongo, where #ChildLabour is common and working conditions are dire. Sodium batteries, by contrast, can use #electrodes built from #iron and #manganese [and wood #lignin], which are plentiful and uncontroversial. Since the chemical components are cheap, a scaled-up industry should be able to produce batteries that cost less than their lithium counterparts.

    "Sodium is not a perfect replacement for lithium. It is heavier, meaning sodium batteries will weigh more than lithium ones of an equivalent capacity. That is likely to rule them out in some cases where lightness is paramount. But for other applications, such as #GridStorage or #HomeBatteries, weight is irrelevant. Several Chinese carmakers are even beginning to put sodium batteries in #ElectricVehicles."

    Read more:
    economist.com/leaders/2023/10/

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/7x6JX

    #SolarPunkSunday #EnergyStorage #SodiumIon #NewTechnology #GiantLeap #Reuse #WasteReuse #NoLithiumMining #NoMining

  5. #SodiumIonBatteries offer an alternative to tricky #lithium

    Oct 26th 2023

    Excerpt: "Fortunately, lithium is not the only game in town. As we report this week, a clutch of firms are making batteries based on sodium, lithium’s elemental cousin. Since sodium’s chemical properties are very similar to those of lithium, it too makes for good batteries. And sodium, which is found in the salt in #seawater, is thousands of times more abundant on Earth than lithium and cheaper to get at. Most of the companies using sodium to make batteries today are also Chinese. But pursuing the technology in the West might be a surer route to energy security than relying heavily on lithium.

    "Besides its abundance, sodium has other advantages. The best lithium batteries use #cobalt and #nickel in their electrodes. Nickel, like lithium, is in short supply. #Mining it on land is #EnvironmentallyDestructive. Proposals to grab it from the #seabed instead have caused rows. A good deal of the world’s cobalt, meanwhile, is extracted from small mines in the #DemocraticRepublicOfCongo, where #ChildLabour is common and working conditions are dire. Sodium batteries, by contrast, can use #electrodes built from #iron and #manganese [and wood #lignin], which are plentiful and uncontroversial. Since the chemical components are cheap, a scaled-up industry should be able to produce batteries that cost less than their lithium counterparts.

    "Sodium is not a perfect replacement for lithium. It is heavier, meaning sodium batteries will weigh more than lithium ones of an equivalent capacity. That is likely to rule them out in some cases where lightness is paramount. But for other applications, such as #GridStorage or #HomeBatteries, weight is irrelevant. Several Chinese carmakers are even beginning to put sodium batteries in #ElectricVehicles."

    Read more:
    economist.com/leaders/2023/10/

    Archived version:
    archive.ph/7x6JX

    #SolarPunkSunday #EnergyStorage #SodiumIon #NewTechnology #GiantLeap #Reuse #WasteReuse #NoLithiumMining #NoMining

  6. Xcel Energy has signed an electric service agreement to power a Google data center with 1,400 MW of wind, 200 MW of solar, and 300 MW of long‑duration energy storage.

    It's that last part that's significant. It's an iron‑air battery system from Form Energy. With about 30 gigawatt‑hours (GWh) of capacity and a duration of roughly 100 hours.

    This looks like the future of grid-scale storage. I doubt sodium-ion will be able to compete with the cost and capacity. All it needs is Iron, Air, and Water in a process that essentially releases energy as the iron rusts, then stores energy by turning the rust back into iron and oxygen. At a cost of about $20/kWh - 4x less than lithium batteries.

    youtube.com/watch?v=fb2BaANfCLg

    #Solar #batteries #GridStorage #Renewables

  7. Xcel Energy has signed an electric service agreement to power a Google data center with 1,400 MW of wind, 200 MW of solar, and 300 MW of long‑duration energy storage.

    It's that last part that's significant. It's an iron‑air battery system from Form Energy. With about 30 gigawatt‑hours (GWh) of capacity and a duration of roughly 100 hours.

    This looks like the future of grid-scale storage. I doubt sodium-ion will be able to compete with the cost and capacity. All it needs is Iron, Air, and Water in a process that essentially releases energy as the iron rusts, then stores energy by turning the rust back into iron and oxygen. At a cost of about $20/kWh - 4x less than lithium batteries.

    youtube.com/watch?v=fb2BaANfCLg

    #Solar #batteries #GridStorage #Renewables

  8. Xcel Energy has signed an electric service agreement to power a Google data center with 1,400 MW of wind, 200 MW of solar, and 300 MW of long‑duration energy storage.

    It's that last part that's significant. It's an iron‑air battery system from Form Energy. With about 30 gigawatt‑hours (GWh) of capacity and a duration of roughly 100 hours.

    This looks like the future of grid-scale storage. I doubt sodium-ion will be able to compete with the cost and capacity. All it needs is Iron, Air, and Water in a process that essentially releases energy as the iron rusts, then stores energy by turning the rust back into iron and oxygen. At a cost of about $20/kWh - 4x less than lithium batteries.

    youtube.com/watch?v=fb2BaANfCLg

    #Solar #batteries #GridStorage #Renewables

  9. Xcel Energy has signed an electric service agreement to power a Google data center with 1,400 MW of wind, 200 MW of solar, and 300 MW of long‑duration energy storage.

    It's that last part that's significant. It's an iron‑air battery system from Form Energy. With about 30 gigawatt‑hours (GWh) of capacity and a duration of roughly 100 hours.

    This looks like the future of grid-scale storage. I doubt sodium-ion will be able to compete with the cost and capacity. All it needs is Iron, Air, and Water in a process that essentially releases energy as the iron rusts, then stores energy by turning the rust back into iron and oxygen. At a cost of about $20/kWh - 4x less than lithium batteries.

    youtube.com/watch?v=fb2BaANfCLg

    #Solar #batteries #GridStorage #Renewables

  10. Xcel Energy has signed an electric service agreement to power a Google data center with 1,400 MW of wind, 200 MW of solar, and 300 MW of long‑duration energy storage.

    It's that last part that's significant. It's an iron‑air battery system from Form Energy. With about 30 gigawatt‑hours (GWh) of capacity and a duration of roughly 100 hours.

    This looks like the future of grid-scale storage. I doubt sodium-ion will be able to compete with the cost and capacity. All it needs is Iron, Air, and Water in a process that essentially releases energy as the iron rusts, then stores energy by turning the rust back into iron and oxygen. At a cost of about $20/kWh - 4x less than lithium batteries.

    youtube.com/watch?v=fb2BaANfCLg

    #Solar #batteries #GridStorage #Renewables

  11. > 👀 Sneak preview: 3 TWh by 2030? That was just a tease. The real projection blows past that—faster, steeper, bigger. Mainstream models are still catching up. Full piece coming soon. Adding final touches 📊⚡ #BatteryDisruption #GridStorage #EVCurveFuturist #EnergyShift #LFP

  12. > 👀 Sneak preview: 3 TWh by 2030? That was just a tease. The real projection blows past that—faster, steeper, bigger. Mainstream models are still catching up. Full piece coming soon. Adding final touches 📊⚡ #BatteryDisruption #GridStorage #EVCurveFuturist #EnergyShift #LFP

  13. > 👀 Sneak preview: 3 TWh by 2030? That was just a tease. The real projection blows past that—faster, steeper, bigger. Mainstream models are still catching up. Full piece coming soon. Adding final touches 📊⚡ #BatteryDisruption #GridStorage #EVCurveFuturist #EnergyShift #LFP

  14. > 👀 Sneak preview: 3 TWh by 2030? That was just a tease. The real projection blows past that—faster, steeper, bigger. Mainstream models are still catching up. Full piece coming soon. Adding final touches 📊⚡ #BatteryDisruption #GridStorage #EVCurveFuturist #EnergyShift #LFP

  15. Funny how advocacy for low-tech solutions reveals a modern and accurate understandment of the world.

    Tecnocracy, you can retire. 😉

    (Here's the link to the actual articke, I have to finish reading it, but up to now it looks neat)
    academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/art

    @JohannesIEckert

    #LowTech #EnergyTransition #EnergyStorage #HeatStorage #GreenHydrogen #GridStorage #RenewableEnergy

  16. Funny how advocacy for low-tech solutions reveals a modern and accurate understandment of the world.

    Tecnocracy, you can retire. 😉

    (Here's the link to the actual articke, I have to finish reading it, but up to now it looks neat)
    academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/art

    @JohannesIEckert

    #LowTech #EnergyTransition #EnergyStorage #HeatStorage #GreenHydrogen #GridStorage #RenewableEnergy

  17. Funny how advocacy for low-tech solutions reveals a modern and accurate understandment of the world.

    Tecnocracy, you can retire. 😉

    (Here's the link to the actual articke, I have to finish reading it, but up to now it looks neat)
    academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/art

    @JohannesIEckert

    #LowTech #EnergyTransition #EnergyStorage #HeatStorage #GreenHydrogen #GridStorage #RenewableEnergy

  18. Funny how advocacy for low-tech solutions reveals a modern and accurate understandment of the world.

    Tecnocracy, you can retire. 😉

    (Here's the link to the actual articke, I have to finish reading it, but up to now it looks neat)
    academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/art

    @JohannesIEckert

    #LowTech #EnergyTransition #EnergyStorage #HeatStorage #GreenHydrogen #GridStorage #RenewableEnergy

  19. Funny how advocacy for low-tech solutions reveals a modern and accurate understandment of the world.

    Tecnocracy, you can retire. 😉

    (Here's the link to the actual articke, I have to finish reading it, but up to now it looks neat)
    academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/art

    @JohannesIEckert

    #LowTech #EnergyTransition #EnergyStorage #HeatStorage #GreenHydrogen #GridStorage #RenewableEnergy

  20. "Miljöpartiet hade fel tills de inte hade fel längre."

    Med natriumbatterier (sodium/salt) som når 160Wh/kg och solceller som närmar sig 30% effektivitet känns kärnkraft otroligt ineffektivt, dyrt och förlegat.

    Förnybar energi har hunnit ikapp och vi måste acceptera den verkligheten med smartare investeringar och subventioner.

    Intresset för ödrift av solcellsanläggningar ökar och ett smart elnät är rätt väg. Det ger redundans, självständighet och säkerhet vid kris. #miljö #gridstorage #energy

  21. "Miljöpartiet hade fel tills de inte hade fel längre."

    Med natriumbatterier (sodium/salt) som når 160Wh/kg och solceller som närmar sig 30% effektivitet känns kärnkraft otroligt ineffektivt, dyrt och förlegat.

    Förnybar energi har hunnit ikapp och vi måste acceptera den verkligheten med smartare investeringar och subventioner.

    Intresset för ödrift av solcellsanläggningar ökar och ett smart elnät är rätt väg. Det ger redundans, självständighet och säkerhet vid kris. #miljö #gridstorage #energy

  22. "Miljöpartiet hade fel tills de inte hade fel längre."

    Med natriumbatterier (sodium/salt) som når 160Wh/kg och solceller som närmar sig 30% effektivitet känns kärnkraft otroligt ineffektivt, dyrt och förlegat.

    Förnybar energi har hunnit ikapp och vi måste acceptera den verkligheten med smartare investeringar och subventioner.

    Intresset för ödrift av solcellsanläggningar ökar och ett smart elnät är rätt väg. Det ger redundans, självständighet och säkerhet vid kris. #miljö #gridstorage #energy

  23. "Miljöpartiet hade fel tills de inte hade fel längre."

    Med natriumbatterier (sodium/salt) som når 160Wh/kg och solceller som närmar sig 30% effektivitet känns kärnkraft otroligt ineffektivt, dyrt och förlegat.

    Förnybar energi har hunnit ikapp och vi måste acceptera den verkligheten med smartare investeringar och subventioner.

    Intresset för ödrift av solcellsanläggningar ökar och ett smart elnät är rätt väg. Det ger redundans, självständighet och säkerhet vid kris. #miljö #gridstorage #energy

  24. @sbi
    You are correct, NPP is not the single solution but important to highlight that we cant afford to shut down our current plants. We have to pick all the low-hanging fruit by subsidizing those and tax the rest. For instant control we need batteries.

    One big thing regarding grid batteries is establishing a recycling standard for EVs so that old aging vehicle batteries with low capacity per weight ratio can be reused for the grid where weight is not an important factor. #gridstorage

  25. Hey! It’s @robsonfletcher on CBC talking grid storage in Alberta. This is an area Alberta needs to push ahead on so it’s good to hear it getting some attention.

    Edit: Good little piece although I’m disappointed he didn’t mention pumped hydro at all, just batteries. Pumped hydro is old tech and the most efficient storage we can build but everyone seems to be focussing on batteries.

    #Electricity #RenewableEnergy #GridStorage