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  1. One of my favorite examples of #AdversarialInteroperability (as championed by @pluralistic and others): a site pop complains about me using an ad blocker, I put the site into the browser’s Reader Mode, and get around the annoying modal popup.

  2. I'm very impressed with #Murena /e/ OS's updates to Advanced Privacy in /e/ OS 3.0.

    Just now, I got a notification about "a new spy in town". An app I installed since the /e/ OS upgrade has made it into the new Advanced Privacy weekly report.

    This is really helpful feedback, highlighting ubiquitous tracking.

    I minimise my use of apps that are not #FOSS, and rely on /e/ OS to block all known trackers (which it does by default). Often the corresponding website will do as good a job, and Advanced Blocking appears to work for web-based trackers too.

    #SurveillanceEconomy #AdversarialInteroperability #InfoSec #Android

  3. For someone who has been an active witness of the early days of the internet, it's pretty surprising to see this person be unenthusiastic about adversarial interop, which is one of the reasons why #Gopher became a huge thing (and also one of the unintentional weapons the web used to ironically kill it), why we have an #openweb today and why it persists despite efforts by the big players to extinguish it. ​:seija_coffee:​

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperability-burrowed-under-gatekeepers-fortresses
    https://boingboing.net/2019/10/02/plug-and-play.html

    #AdversarialInteroperability

    RE:
    https://mastodon.social/users/jwz/statuses/113654149217156768

  4. @matthew_d_green

    and now #meta is trying to run into the #fediverse with #threads, and do to #mastodon what they did to #myspace in 2010. with the same tactics:

    1. a public excited friendly face of #interop

    2. drain of users

    3. when the competitor is a dried husk, turn around and fanatically prevent any interop with #facebook on any level whatsoever

    people need to understand what meta is

    and have no illusions about what they have done, and what they will do

    #adversarialinteroperability

  5. when it comes to #threads and the #fediverse, people need to understand what is called #adversarialinteroperability

    there are stories about how #apple beat #microsoft with the tactic, but it might be more useful on this topic to talk about how #meta killed #myspace with #facebook #interop. interop whose sole purpose, behind the excited "we're working together!" public facade, was to simply drain myspace of users faster:

    phys.org/news/2010-11-myspace-

  6. CW: Long thread/27

    HP tricks you into installing a "security update" that sneakily disables your printer's ability to recognize and use third-party ink? Just roll back the operating system and you won't be forced to spend $10,000/gallon to print out your boarding passes and shopping lists:

    eff.org/deeplinks/2020/11/ink-

    Self-help - AKA #AdversarialInteroperability - isn't just a way to override the greedy choices of corporate sadists. It's a way to hold those sadists in check. It's a constraint.

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  7. #AdversarialInteroperability is one of the most reliable ways to protect users from predatory corporations: it's when someone reverse-engineers a product to reconfigure or mod it (interoperability) in ways its users like, but which its manufacturer objects to (adversarial):

    eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adve

    If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

    pluralistic.net/2023/12/07/blu

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  8. @mostaurelius @blackmastodon
    My experience is that bookshop(.)org is receptive to kind, polite feedback if you think the steps above could use improvement. They'll do bookshop outreach if you ask them to, in case you know of an unlisted Black-owned store.

    They use browser cookies and affiliate URLs (think now defunct smile.amazon.com; I'm sure that was their model). Human frailty means you will eventually forget to check. Private browsing, clear cookies, switch device or browser, "*boop* what preferred bookstore?" 😖
    I pointed this out via a decent email dialog with #BookshopDotOrg over 12 months ago. The fact that it still works in this deeply suboptimal way is intentional, if only intentional neglect.

    Bookshop.org and last.fm are absolutely part of the coalition in my mind. Both are fantastic candidates for #AdversarialInteroperability — like maybe a #Bookwyrm plugin or #Firefox browser extension — to smooth over the rough edges until they do the work on their end.

    #Books #Bookshops #ChooseBookshops

  9. #Musician and #VideoEssay -ist Benn Jordan has named some of his videos in such a way that yt-dlp totally horks on them, because it fails to escape characters that are significant to the OS in terms of filenames AND (I suspect) might be exeucting sub-shells in the background and commands are failing due to special shell characters like ampersand (&) being unescaped.

    And if true that this is intentional, I'm totally here for it. And if it's a happy accident that shows me a simple place I can contribute a bugfix / patch to the yt-dlp project, I'm totally here for that too.

    ALSO, an excellent video, with an interesting digression about a survey. So much to take in:

    youtube.com/watch?v=FEO0NVPyED

    #YouTube #AdversarialInteroperability
    #BennJordan #Music
    #Humming

  10. CW: Long thread/25

    Finally, there's the fear of self-help measures. All the digital flexibility that tech companies use to take value away can be used to take it back, too. The whole modern history of digital computers is the history of #AdversarialInteroperability, in which the sleazy antifeatures of established companies are banished through reverse-engineering, scraping, bots and other forms of technological guerrilla warfare:

    eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adve

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  11. CW: Long thread/31

    This is the approach that my @eff colleague #BennettCyphers and I proposed in our "#PrivacyWithoutMonopoly" paper:

    eff.org/wp/interoperability-an

    III. Create legal safe harbors for scraping. Scraping is a form of #AdversarialInteroperability, the self-help measures that technologists use to modify and adapt existing services without their owners' consent. Think of reverse-engineering, bots, etc:

    eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adve

    31/

  12. "- motivated reasoning ripples through all of Silicon Valley's top brass, producing what Anil Dash calls "VC QAnon," the collection of conspiratorial, debunked and absurd beliefs embraced by powerful people who hold the digital lives of billions of us in their quivering grasp..."

    pluralistic.net/2023/08/02/sel

    #tech #business #CoryDoctorow #privacy #DRM #AdversarialInteroperability #CompetitiveCompatibility #ComCom @pluralistic

  13. Following this further, I guess #dataportability is a qtn of what electronic signals are collected by platforms from users and datafied for corporate purposes. If Tiktok collects your key strokes - even outside of direct use of the app itself? - is that actually yr data which in theory could be ported by you to another destination, or would you likely be told this is not covered? Wonder what @pluralistic has to say since it matters for #adversarialinteroperability @DTinitiative @mmasnick

  14. CW: Long thread/56

    I really liked Dubal's legal reasoning and argument, and to it I would add a call to reinvigorate countertwiddling: reforming laws that get in the way of workers who want to reverse-engineer, spoof, and control the apps that currently control *them*. #AdversarialInteroperability (AKA #CompetitiveCompatibility or #ComCom) is key tool for building worker power in an era of digital Taylorism:

    eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adve

    56/

  15. Is it just me thinking Twitter is turning off their third-party API just to stop tools like debirdify and movetodon helping people get out of the walled garden? #Twitter #Mastodon #AdversarialInteroperability