#networkeffect — Public Fediverse posts

Hoy fuimos al liceo a dejar a mi hija y resulta que otro boludito escribio en el baño que hoy hay tiroteo y eso... entonces llamaron a la policia, empezaron con el protocolo... nunca avisaron que se suspendian las clases... nos enteramos cuando llegamos que estaban suspendidas las clases. Cuando pregunte porque no habian mandado aviso, dijeron que los adscriptos empezaron a avisar a los alumnos y mapadres y que el whatsapp que usan, llego al limite de envios y a la mitad no le pudieron avisar... El efecto de red es tan pero tan grande, que inclusive con estas limitaciones que le complican la vida a todo el mundo... lo aceptan asi como es y nadie se queja #whatsapp #xmpp #efectodered #networkeffect #uruguay

@bytebro @Alice what platform strategy neglects in their quest for #networkEffect is that with enshittification, when people are on the network *entirely* for the network effect, their participation reciprocates the #enshittification.

People feign sincerity, quality, vulnerability, and interdependence, because they don't really want it. Not from #LinkedIn.

I was at an event last night and some people spoke about how without Fb they wouldn't have been able to reconnect with their school friends.
The #Networkeffect of the #socialgraph is so important to growth.

I am wondering how the #Fediverse could incorporate that in order to get more users.

#MastoAdmin #marketing #mastodon

@shlee @KathyReid follow @HolosDiscover @stefan @AdminTeam @tchambers

I was at an event last night and some people spoke about how without Fb they wouldn't have been able to reconnect with their school friends.
The #Networkeffect of the #socialgraph is so important to growth.

I am wondering how the #Fediverse could incorporate that in order to get more users.

#MastoAdmin #marketing #mastodon

@shlee @KathyReid follow @HolosDiscover @stefan @AdminTeam @tchambers

I was at an event last night and some people spoke about how without Fb they wouldn't have been able to reconnect with their school friends.
The #Networkeffect of the #socialgraph is so important to growth.

I am wondering how the #Fediverse could incorporate that in order to get more users.

#MastoAdmin #marketing #mastodon

@shlee @KathyReid follow @HolosDiscover @stefan @AdminTeam @tchambers

I was at an event last night and some people spoke about how without Fb they wouldn't have been able to reconnect with their school friends.
The #Networkeffect of the #socialgraph is so important to growth.

I am wondering how the #Fediverse could incorporate that in order to get more users.

#MastoAdmin #marketing #mastodon

@shlee @KathyReid follow @HolosDiscover @stefan @AdminTeam @tchambers

I was at an event last night and some people spoke about how without Fb they wouldn't have been able to reconnect with their school friends.
The #Networkeffect of the #socialgraph is so important to growth.

I am wondering how the #Fediverse could incorporate that in order to get more users.

#MastoAdmin #marketing #mastodon

@shlee @KathyReid follow @HolosDiscover @stefan @AdminTeam @tchambers

Seeing history repeat itself, wanted to encourage everyone on the #fediverse to take a few minutes to do something that might be VERY useful in a couple weeks.

A few years ago, and there was a massive influx onto #Mastodon. Those of us who had already been here did what we could to help new people get started, expanding our presence and creating invite links. It was also very helpful that a lot of people made early on, and linked them to friends, even though they didn't have anyone already here, which helped overcome the #NetworkEffect that deters people from joining.

#Discord is now creating a new exodus: they are forcing a large chunk of the user base to #dox themselves in order to maintain full access.

Other #OpenSource services, like #Matrix and #Fluxer seam positioned to be the new alternative people run to.

There's still time to be an early adopter and get their Network populated. Go make accounts, send them to your friends, be ready for one to take off.

Let's do this. ✊

https://fluxer.app/

Seeing history repeat itself, wanted to encourage everyone on the #fediverse to take a few minutes to do something that might be VERY useful in a couple weeks.

A few years ago, and there was a massive influx onto #Mastodon. Those of us who had already been here did what we could to help new people get started, expanding our presence and creating invite links. It was also very helpful that a lot of people made early on, and linked them to friends, even though they didn't have anyone already here, which helped overcome the #NetworkEffect that deters people from joining.

#Discord is now creating a new exodus: they are forcing a large chunk of the user base to #dox themselves in order to maintain full access.

Other #OpenSource services, like #Matrix and #Fluxer seam positioned to be the new alternative people run to.

There's still time to be an early adopter and get their Network populated. Go make accounts, send them to your friends, be ready for one to take off.

Let's do this. ✊

https://fluxer.app/

Seeing history repeat itself, wanted to encourage everyone on the #fediverse to take a few minutes to do something that might be VERY useful in a couple weeks.

A few years ago, and there was a massive influx onto #Mastodon. Those of us who had already been here did what we could to help new people get started, expanding our presence and creating invite links. It was also very helpful that a lot of people made early on, and linked them to friends, even though they didn't have anyone already here, which helped overcome the #NetworkEffect that deters people from joining.

#Discord is now creating a new exodus: they are forcing a large chunk of the user base to #dox themselves in order to maintain full access.

Other #OpenSource services, like #Matrix and #Fluxer seam positioned to be the new alternative people run to.

There's still time to be an early adopter and get their Network populated. Go make accounts, send them to your friends, be ready for one to take off.

Let's do this. ✊

https://fluxer.app/

Seeing history repeat itself, wanted to encourage everyone on the #fediverse to take a few minutes to do something that might be VERY useful in a couple weeks.

A few years ago, and there was a massive influx onto #Mastodon. Those of us who had already been here did what we could to help new people get started, expanding our presence and creating invite links. It was also very helpful that a lot of people made early on, and linked them to friends, even though they didn't have anyone already here, which helped overcome the #NetworkEffect that deters people from joining.

#Discord is now creating a new exodus: they are forcing a large chunk of the user base to #dox themselves in order to maintain full access.

Other #OpenSource services, like #Matrix and #Fluxer seam positioned to be the new alternative people run to.

There's still time to be an early adopter and get their Network populated. Go make accounts, send them to your friends, be ready for one to take off.

Let's do this. ✊

https://fluxer.app/

Seeing history repeat itself, wanted to encourage everyone on the #fediverse to take a few minutes to do something that might be VERY useful in a couple weeks.

A few years ago, and there was a massive influx onto #Mastodon. Those of us who had already been here did what we could to help new people get started, expanding our presence and creating invite links. It was also very helpful that a lot of people made early on, and linked them to friends, even though they didn't have anyone already here, which helped overcome the #NetworkEffect that deters people from joining.

#Discord is now creating a new exodus: they are forcing a large chunk of the user base to #dox themselves in order to maintain full access.

Other #OpenSource services, like #Matrix and #Fluxer seam positioned to be the new alternative people run to.

There's still time to be an early adopter and get their Network populated. Go make accounts, send them to your friends, be ready for one to take off.

Let's do this. ✊

https://fluxer.app/

@bogo By not being available any other way. I wrote about it here in 2 comments: https://social.vivaldi.net/@opensourceopenmind/115596824801047455

#networkeffect #fossadoption #fossadvocacy

I have just discovered decentralized messaging with #xmpp. It's brilliant and surprisingly simple to get set up. Now it is a matter of getting over the #networkeffect of other messaging services.

Bluesky users discover that even “federated” & “distributed” platforms exhibit “lock-in” due to “network effects”; and “cognitive dissonance” ensues…

I’ve been saying for years that the argument — popular if oversimplified* in digital activism — that “network effects of mass adoption of popular platforms cause a form of lock-in monopoly” is bogus, not because it’s untrue but because it’s mundane and reflects some fundamental aspects of human communication.

And here come Bluesky users with supporting evidence:

If the arguments (“tyranny of the default”) are invariant with respect to the architecture, maybe the issue is independent not the architecture? Perhaps popularity is just an emergent phenomenon, and people are not so much “locked-in” as using “whatever works for the moment?”

It’s not like there’s a privately owned piece of wire running into their house and preventing them from using any alternative, people are free to use whatever they agree amongst themselves for communications purposes.

u/FrankoIsFreedom: If you don’t like the moderation… take your followers with you … THATS THE ENTIRE POINT OF BLUESKY […]

u/SundaeTrue1832: My brother in Christ the majority are not tech savvy and just want alternative Twitter without the bigots and nazi

u/yuusharo: That’s great, except that the default moderation that applies to the vast majority of users who are never going to know what a PDS is or why it’s important could prevent your followers from seeing your posts or even discover your account. Changing who hosts your PDS doesn’t impact the so called tyranny of the default. This is why it is important for Bluesky to work with the community when shaping their rules and address their concerns rather than wave them off dismissingly.

Source post for this discussion:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueskySocial/comments/1now263/if_you_dont_like_the_moderation_take_your/

[*] example oversimplification quote from 2019; yes “skeptical” but also my emphasis of the unrealistic “either/or” position:

0:29:49 CD: I don’t use any Facebook products, you know? I think that Facebook does have this incredible advantage that is separate from its monopoly advantage, which is the network effect. I am skeptical of network effects as the kind of central explanation for how we ended up with these monopolies, but the network effect of like everyone on your kids’ little league team is using Facebook to organize games means that you either take your kid out of little league or you get a Facebook account. That clearly works to Facebook’s favor.

#atProtocol #bluesky #contentModeration #distribution #DSA #federation #moderation #monopoly #networkEffect

Are liberals abandoning #BlueSky for #X?

That’s what the headline reads in this #NewYorker article which forces the reader to consume #NateSilver musings before approaching the headline subject

Alternative #SocialMedia such as BlueSky or #Mastodon has seen a decline in posting volume following an initial anti #Twitter surge

The big question is why many liberals remained or have chosen to return to X given #Musk toxicity. Is it simply the #NetworkEffect?

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/social-media-is-navigating-its-sectarian-phase

The 10 Nebula Award Winning Sci-Fi Novels You Must Read

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https://www.themarysue.com/the-10-nebula-award-winning-sci-fi-novels-you-must-read/

#Books #2312 #AncillaryJustice #Annihilation #networkeffect
@indieauthors

The upshot is "Howard’s entire channel has now been deleted by YouTube, which cited copyright infringement." #ALPHA aka @Google cloaking #censorship of significant misleading public claims by powerful people as "Copyright infringement."

I wonder when enough people will pitch Alpha's services in revulsion of their support of the fascists and science deniers, and what needs to happen to make it easy for people to leave. And I wonder how the #Fediverse might enable this.

#NetworkEffect is a powerful trap - and it will take people far more creative (and tech savy) than I am to build the tools to transition - tools that ordinary mortals (and especially their parents/grandparents [yes I know, that's ageismm, but I'm old]) can easily use.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/31/fda-official-youtube-videos?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

"Confession: I didn't know what the engines were supposed to look like, exactly. I'd never had to guard a transport's engines, and they were usually too boring to show on the entertainment media."

#murderbot, #NetworkEffect (by @marthawells)

me (visions of #StarTrek #LowerDecks swimming through my mind): but that's where the warp core is! everyone loves the warp core! it makes soothing sounds!

@bookstodon #audiobookstodon

10 Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Books You Need To Read

If you don't, Hugo will be sad.
https://www.themarysue.com/10-hugo-award-winning-sci-fi-books-you-need-to-read/

#Books #ADesolationCalledPeac #HugoAwards #networkeffect #Redshirts
@indieauthors

10 Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Books You Need To Read

If you don't, Hugo will be sad.
https://www.themarysue.com/10-hugo-award-winning-sci-fi-books-you-need-to-read/

#Books #ADesolationCalledPeac #HugoAwards #networkeffect #Redshirts
@indieauthors

10 Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Books You Need To Read

If you don't, Hugo will be sad.
https://www.themarysue.com/10-hugo-award-winning-sci-fi-books-you-need-to-read/

#Books #ADesolationCalledPeac #HugoAwards #networkeffect #Redshirts
@indieauthors

10 Hugo Award Winning Sci-Fi Books You Need To Read

If you don't, Hugo will be sad.
https://www.themarysue.com/10-hugo-award-winning-sci-fi-books-you-need-to-read/

#Books #ADesolationCalledPeac #HugoAwards #networkeffect #Redshirts
@indieauthors

I wish everyone would just leave that disgusting #github already.

#NetworkEffect #UnplugTrump #QuitGAFAM

@thevril

#SurveillanceState

👉Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with? 👈

#FightTechnofeudalism

(2/n)

... I've pointed out in an older thread 🧵 here and Cory @pluralistic in a now famous speech about #Enshittification, there's the severe lock-in effect, the negative aspects of the #NetworkEffect.

There are #XMPP and #Matrix, the "ancient" and "obvious" #FOSS choices. I've never used them but from what I've read, they were never able to gain much market share and are...

The gender pay gap at the top: the role of networks https://d.repec.org/n?u=RePEc:ptu:wpaper:w202423&r=&r=soc
"…female top managers in Portugal earn 25% less than their male counterparts, even after controlling for factors such as age, education, and tenure.
… introducing new metrics for #network size and gender composition based on managers’ past interactions, … networks account for 20% of this pay gap, primarily through firm #sorting, as networks enable access to higher-paying firms. Focusing on episodes of transitions between firms, we estimate a pay gap of around 22%, indicating that most of the gender pay gap originates during the #hiring process.… one-third of the gap is explained by differences in networks. The #networkEffect works through two channels: by facilitating access to higher-paying firms (70% of the effect) and by enhancing #bargainingPower during salary negotiations in the new firm (30%).
#wages #gpg #LaborMarkets

@janantos Dumbing down the public should be avoided because people just remain dumb. As people pile onto lemmy.world & mastodon.social, for example, you have yet another centralized detriment. The #networkEffect is a problem that cannot be countered by hoping people will proceed with baby step progress. They find something that “works” as far as they can tell & stop right there, disregarding the power imbalance. Thereafter, it’s a very hard to sell a trade of convenience for power balance and diversity.

Convenience wins every time. The way to overcome this is to impose a 1st step that avoids network effect.

In fact it would be better to push your correspondents onto a client that is feature poor to condition them to develop the mental plasticity of using different tools for different jobs.
@sbb @debacle @nirro @daniel @dino @Monal

Watching with interest:

A New Social
https://www.anew.social/hello-social-web/

"We're A New Social, a new #nonprofit organization focused on building cross-protocol tools and services for the #OpenSocial web…We need to have…The Last #NetworkEffect, where users are on a combined network using platforms embracing #OpenProtocols. This enables people to choose platforms based on their needs rather than how many users are active on them."

#ActivityPub #ATprotocol #Bluesky #BridgyFed #Fediverse #Mastodon #OpenProtocols #SocialMedia
@anewsocial

@Troggie

https://www.reddit.com/r/murderbot/comments/1ehypso/psa_the_inworld_narrative_chronology_reading_order/

The #murderbot fan community over on #reddit all pushed for a sticky PSA on this bc it's such a valid point of vexation for new readers just getting into it

Hope it helps. Good luck! (#NetworkEffect was the crowning jewel of the series for me. If you missed a novella before it with ART in it, consider going back and reading those! 🤖💛)

The Ulysses Pact: I had never heard of that, but I've lived by it for years.

Excellent article (as usual) by @pluralistic that explains why you should never put much effort into a platform that you can't leave without a cost. Don't get locked in, don't let the Network Effect bite you in the behind.

https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/#tie-yourself-to-a-federated-mast

#UlyssesPact #NetworkEffect #Enshittification

@AssembleDebug @signalapp ah yes the good #networkeffect issue. @watomatic is a useful app as it can be used to let people know you are on Signal. Plus if someone isn't on Signal, then well #RCS support in Google messages and ios18 will work.

network effect (noun): a phenomenon where a platform, service, or product becomes more valuable as more people use it.

#networkEffect #socialMedia

@pganssle

This doesn't explain why that #ProprietaryPlatform (#Discord, #Slack, MS Teams, etc.) were initially chosen for that specific group of people. The person who made that decision did it for other reasons.

But it does explain what you asked: Why is this so popular, i.e. why are *so many* people continuing to use it?

#NetworkEffect and #SwitchingCosts. Nothing much to do with the properties of that particular platform.

#ProtocolsNotPlatforms avoids those problems.

@pganssle
> How is this platform [#Discord] so popular?

I lean on the old reliable explanations:

Network effect, brings people in.

Switching costs, prevent them from leaving.

https://pluralistic.net/2024/03/21/involuntary-die-hards/

#NetworkEffect #SwitchingCosts #ProtocolsNotPlatforms

draft - Why does mastodon only have 1 million downloads on Google play. I'd like to see it have 10 million or 50 million

Considering all it offers. It should be easy

#mastodon
#mastodonmarketshare
#mastodongrowth
#networkeffect
#fediverse
#fediversegrowth

THIS! https://www.sacog.org/planning/transportation/active-transportation/sacramento-regional-trail-network
A 1,000 mile (1600 km) bike network connecting #Sacramento #YoloCounty #ElDorado #Sutter #Placer and #Yuba counties. This would be a huge boon to cycling. #Bicycle #NetworkEffect #SacramentoValley

THIS! https://www.sacog.org/planning/transportation/active-transportation/sacramento-regional-trail-network
A 1,000 mile (1600 km) bike network connecting #Sacramento #YoloCounty #ElDorado #Sutter #Placer and #Yuba counties. This would be a huge boon to cycling. #Bicycle #NetworkEffect #SacramentoValley

THIS! https://www.sacog.org/planning/transportation/active-transportation/sacramento-regional-trail-network
A 1,000 mile (1600 km) bike network connecting #Sacramento #YoloCounty #ElDorado #Sutter #Placer and #Yuba counties. This would be a huge boon to cycling. #Bicycle #NetworkEffect #SacramentoValley

THIS! https://www.sacog.org/planning/transportation/active-transportation/sacramento-regional-trail-network
A 1,000 mile (1600 km) bike network connecting #Sacramento #YoloCounty #ElDorado #Sutter #Placer and #Yuba counties. This would be a huge boon to cycling. #Bicycle #NetworkEffect #SacramentoValley

THIS! https://www.sacog.org/planning/transportation/active-transportation/sacramento-regional-trail-network
A 1,000 mile (1600 km) bike network connecting #Sacramento #YoloCounty #ElDorado #Sutter #Placer and #Yuba counties. This would be a huge boon to cycling. #Bicycle #NetworkEffect #SacramentoValley

@volkris @briankrebs @jerry Before I started exploring the #Fediverse last year, I've never used #SocialMedia at all: #noFacebook, #noInstgram, #noTicToc, #noTwitter, #noYouTube, etc.

Commercials driven platforms generally never appeal useful to me in terms of community building and communication. For this reason I successfully refrain from using #noDiscord, #noSkype, #noTelegram, #noWhatsApp, etc.

In my opinion people sacrifice a lot of their #privacy and force others into the same dilemma because of the #NetworkEffect to gain using a tool for free more conveniently than spending some time to #FLOSS alternatives.

@volkris @briankrebs @jerry Before I started exploring the #Fediverse last year, I've never used #SocialMedia at all: #noFacebook, #noInstgram, #noTicToc, #noTwitter, #noYouTube, etc.

Commercials driven platforms generally never appeal useful to me in terms of community building and communication. For this reason I successfully refrain from using #noDiscord, #noSkype, #noTelegram, #noWhatsApp, etc.

In my opinion people sacrifice a lot of their #privacy and force others into the same dilemma because of the #NetworkEffect to gain using a tool for free more conveniently than spending some time to #FLOSS alternatives.

@volkris @briankrebs @jerry Before I started exploring the #Fediverse last year, I've never used #SocialMedia at all: #noFacebook, #noInstgram, #noTicToc, #noTwitter, #noYouTube, etc.

Commercials driven platforms generally never appeal useful to me in terms of community building and communication. For this reason I successfully refrain from using #noDiscord, #noSkype, #noTelegram, #noWhatsApp, etc.

In my opinion people sacrifice a lot of their #privacy and force others into the same dilemma because of the #NetworkEffect to gain using a tool for free more conveniently than spending some time to #FLOSS alternatives.

What is the network effect? - Crypto’s value increases with more users, creating a positive fee... - https://cointelegraph.com/news/what-is-the-network-effect #networkeffect #collectors #creators #dexes #defi

@eric
Keep in mind whether you're enabling their #NetworkEffect. Ie. Why would someone want to K'verse if they can coast along on the #dotcon statusQuo, and K'Verse will yield?

Btw #criticalMass is 3.5% not 1-in-5. Its perfectly achieveable, if we organise.

Spam is always going to be there. Its part of learning. Also one persons spam is another persons understanding, another's source of 'lols', but always a manifestation of a truth.

1/2

@noorul many of these smaller marketplaces still exist eg #MightyApe in Aotearoa (NZ) and #FishPond in the UK, but the #PlatformMonopoly dynamic means they struggle for oxygen in the face of massive players like #Amazon and #Ebay. As with the #fediverse, federating multiple independent marketplaces together, allows them to combine their #NetworkEffect, and compete cooperatively (if that makes sense ;)
@fitheach

One problem with proposals for paying people building digital commons with an online #MutualCredit system, is that it's only really useful if the things we really need to live (housing, food etc) can be paid for using the system. Existing money systems have a very powerful #NetworkEffect, that's even harder to compete with than FB