#cwtch — Public Fediverse posts

Hi, has anyone figured out how to run #cwtch in "headless" mode? I'd like to run a CWTCH server on a server, without the UI.
#privacy #messaging

@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant

All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)

I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability

@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant

All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)

I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability

@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant

All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)

I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability

@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant

All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)

I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability

@R3yScale @cwtch I would love if cwtch could replace simplex, fascist project maintainer and cwtch is more decentralised and censorship resistant

All it would take I think for me to say the switch is worth it would be quantum resistant encryption and new cryptographic identities in every chat (perhaps a different tor address for every new chat)

I also need to compare the deniability features - simplex has a nice hidden profile feature

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #Cwtch #SimpleX #Tor #Deniability

[FAQ] How Quiet app compares to...

#Slack and #Discord
#Signal
#Matrix/#Element
#P2P Matrix
#Session
#Briar
#Cwtch
#Berty
#Cabal
#Ricochet Refresh

https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/wiki/Quiet-FAQ

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

@delta deltachat is high on my list, but I've gotta give the crown to #cwtch - one of the most straightforwardly-obvious "this is a significant step better than others" chat systems I've seen in a very long time, possibly ever.

@delta deltachat is high on my list, but I've gotta give the crown to #cwtch - one of the most straightforwardly-obvious "this is a significant step better than others" chat systems I've seen in a very long time, possibly ever.

@delta deltachat is high on my list, but I've gotta give the crown to #cwtch - one of the most straightforwardly-obvious "this is a significant step better than others" chat systems I've seen in a very long time, possibly ever.

@delta deltachat is high on my list, but I've gotta give the crown to #cwtch - one of the most straightforwardly-obvious "this is a significant step better than others" chat systems I've seen in a very long time, possibly ever.

@delta deltachat is high on my list, but I've gotta give the crown to #cwtch - one of the most straightforwardly-obvious "this is a significant step better than others" chat systems I've seen in a very long time, possibly ever.

@escape_velocity

Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing

Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.

All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.

But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized

I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string

Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.

That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything

except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway

[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic

@escape_velocity

Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing

Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.

All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.

But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized

I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string

Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.

That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything

except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway

[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic

@escape_velocity

Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing

Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.

All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.

But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized

I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string

Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.

That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything

except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway

[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic

@escape_velocity

Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing

Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.

All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.

But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized

I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string

Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.

That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything

except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway

[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic

@escape_velocity

Thank you for being the only other person I see on my feed talking about simplex its refreshing

Imo its the gold standard in private anonymous group messaging. Better than Signal, briar, cwtch, deltachat, meshtastic.

All of them have some benefit over simples whether it be signals ease of use and stability, briars ability to share the binary over bluetooth, cwtch's simple in-app gui for self hosting, deltachat's interoperability with email, or meshtastics resilience in mesh networks.

But only simplex has no profile ids, quantum resistant encryption, advanced invite/multi profile management, as well as being decentralized

I think that especially anarchists and activists should seek this level of privacy because compromised contacts can have their conversations with you be corroborated to show you are the same person when you have a static id even if its a random string

Since I don't get to talk to people who use simplex much I should mention why I dont talk to the people in public simplex rooms: it skews far right because the creator is a trans hating[1] climate denier with a bunch of other right wing beliefs I cant remember, you know the usual.

That being said the developers have very little control over what happens on even their own servers: they can disable invite links they dont like but not rooms (invites can easily be regenerated), they can remove file links that get reported but not messages, (files are deleted after 48h anyway bc its a relay network they cant delete it when group members have it cached) and if either of these are hosted on another simplex server since its decentralised they cant do anything

except ig the nuclear option to totally cut connection to stop their own users connecting to users on that other server. but simplex is fairly simple to self host, we should be moving away from the official servers anyway

[1]
https://x.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841

#Simplex #FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #QuantumResistantEncryption #Transgender #Climate #ClimateDenier #Signal #Briar #Cwtch #DeltaChat #Meshtastic

#threema wurde verkauft

scheint immer mehr darauf hinauszulaufen dass die einzige möglichkeit für privacy bei #messenger ist, das zeugs selbst zu hosten 🙄

oder p2p messenger wie #cwtch zu nutzen

#threema wurde verkauft

scheint immer mehr darauf hinauszulaufen dass die einzige möglichkeit für privacy bei #messenger ist, das zeugs selbst zu hosten 🙄

oder p2p messenger wie #cwtch zu nutzen

#threema wurde verkauft

scheint immer mehr darauf hinauszulaufen dass die einzige möglichkeit für privacy bei #messenger ist, das zeugs selbst zu hosten 🙄

oder p2p messenger wie #cwtch zu nutzen

#threema wurde verkauft

scheint immer mehr darauf hinauszulaufen dass die einzige möglichkeit für privacy bei #messenger ist, das zeugs selbst zu hosten 🙄

oder p2p messenger wie #cwtch zu nutzen

@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sarah Okay if simplex is off the table my next favourites are Cwtch, Briar, and Meshtastic they each have different use cases but none have quantum resistant encryption so if I had to ditch simplex I might have to use Signal the only other messenger I know to have quantum resistant encryption but I'd had to weigh that against the anonymity problems with signal

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #FLOSS #E2EE #Cwtch #Signal #Simplex #Briar #Meshtastic #QuantumResistantEncryption

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

@juliette Teens will just move to decentralised open source encrypted apps where they can't be policed. And I'm not talking about fediverse where individual instance owners can potentially be held accountable I mean stuff like SimpleX Cwtch or Briar

#SimpleX #Cwtch #Briar #FLOSS #E2EE #Fediverse #SocialMediaBan #YouthLiberation

@juliette Teens will just move to decentralised open source encrypted apps where they can't be policed. And I'm not talking about fediverse where individual instance owners can potentially be held accountable I mean stuff like SimpleX Cwtch or Briar

#SimpleX #Cwtch #Briar #FLOSS #E2EE #Fediverse #SocialMediaBan #YouthLiberation

@juliette Teens will just move to decentralised open source encrypted apps where they can't be policed. And I'm not talking about fediverse where individual instance owners can potentially be held accountable I mean stuff like SimpleX Cwtch or Briar

#SimpleX #Cwtch #Briar #FLOSS #E2EE #Fediverse #SocialMediaBan #YouthLiberation

@juliette Teens will just move to decentralised open source encrypted apps where they can't be policed. And I'm not talking about fediverse where individual instance owners can potentially be held accountable I mean stuff like SimpleX Cwtch or Briar

#SimpleX #Cwtch #Briar #FLOSS #E2EE #Fediverse #SocialMediaBan #YouthLiberation

@juliette Teens will just move to decentralised open source encrypted apps where they can't be policed. And I'm not talking about fediverse where individual instance owners can potentially be held accountable I mean stuff like SimpleX Cwtch or Briar

#SimpleX #Cwtch #Briar #FLOSS #E2EE #Fediverse #SocialMediaBan #YouthLiberation

@[email protected] I would really like to know what people think about @session and @cwtch.

#session #cwtch

@DreamAcademy I would really like to know what people think about @session and @cwtch.

#session #cwtch

@DreamAcademy I would really like to know what people think about @session and @cwtch.

#session #cwtch

@DreamAcademy I would really like to know what people think about @session and @cwtch.

#session #cwtch

@DreamAcademy I would really like to know what people think about @session and @cwtch.

#session #cwtch

"Here you'll find reviews and research about services and how they affect your #privacy both in person and online backed by real world findings and data collected from testing"

Some apps analysed include: :discord: :matrix: :telegram: :wechat: :xmpp: :whatsapp:

🏆 @simplex (@threemaapp seems to be an undisputed winner on other lists)
🥈 @briar
🥉 @cwtch

https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

EDIT: this info is controversial (see comments)

#matrix #telegram #xmpp #signal #whatsapp #threema #wire #zoom #CWTCH

"Here you'll find reviews and research about services and how they affect your #privacy both in person and online backed by real world findings and data collected from testing"

Some apps analysed include: :discord: :matrix: :telegram: :wechat: :xmpp: :whatsapp:

🏆 @simplex (@threemaapp seems to be an undisputed winner on other lists)
🥈 @briar
🥉 @cwtch

https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

EDIT: this info is controversial (see comments)

#matrix #telegram #xmpp #signal #whatsapp #threema #wire #zoom #CWTCH

"Here you'll find reviews and research about services and how they affect your #privacy both in person and online backed by real world findings and data collected from testing"

Some apps analysed include: :discord: :matrix: :telegram: :wechat: :xmpp: :whatsapp:

🏆 @simplex (@threemaapp seems to be an undisputed winner on other lists)
🥈 @briar
🥉 @cwtch

https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

EDIT: this info is controversial (see comments)

#matrix #telegram #xmpp #signal #whatsapp #threema #wire #zoom #CWTCH

"Here you'll find reviews and research about services and how they affect your #privacy both in person and online backed by real world findings and data collected from testing"

Some apps analysed include: :discord: :matrix: :telegram: :wechat: :xmpp: :whatsapp:

🏆 @simplex (@threemaapp seems to be an undisputed winner on other lists)
🥈 @briar
🥉 @cwtch

https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps

EDIT: this info is controversial (see comments)

#matrix #telegram #xmpp #signal #whatsapp #threema #wire #zoom #CWTCH