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The Placebo Button
The elevator in my building has a door-close button that does nothing. I learned this the way everyone learns it, which is to say I pressed it for years under the impression that it was speeding up my departure. The button lights up. It makes a small click when pressed. It provides every sensory signal of function. What it does not do is close the door any faster than the door was going to close on its own. The elevators in most American buildings installed since 1990 have door-close buttons wired to nothing, because the Americans with Disabilities Act requires the door to stay open long enough for a person using a wheelchair or walker to enter, and the button that overrides that requirement is accessible only to the fire department with a key.
The elevator industry has not hidden this. A 2016 New York Times piece by Christopher Mele quoted Karen Penafiel of the National Elevator Industry confirming that the buttons in non-emergency elevators do not function for ordinary passengers. The buttons remain on the panels because removing them would require rewiring, because passengers expect them, and because a button that does nothing costs less to leave in place than a button that does something. The fire department button works; the button passengers press does not. Both are labeled the same way.
The phenomenon extends well beyond elevators. A 2004 New York Times piece by Michael Luo reported that of the approximately three thousand crosswalk buttons in New York City at the time, only a few hundred still functioned. The rest were deactivated when the city moved to computerized signal timing in the decades after 1980, and the buttons were kept in place rather than removed because removing them costs more than leaving them attached to nothing. A pedestrian pressing a crosswalk button on Sixth Avenue at Thirty-Fourth Street is performing a gesture. The gesture has no effect on when the light changes. The light changes on a fixed timer that does not know the pedestrian pressed anything.
Office thermostats are the third common case. HVAC contractors working in large commercial buildings have for decades installed decoy thermostats in zones where the actual temperature is controlled from a central building management system. A January 2003 Wall Street Journal piece by Jared Sandberg reported that a significant share of office thermostats were non-functional decoys, installed because building operators had discovered that employees who had a thermostat to adjust reported feeling more comfortable than employees who did not, regardless of whether the thermostat was connected to anything. The decoy thermostat was cheaper than the actual climate complaint.
What unites these three cases is that the placebo button is engineered to produce the sensation of causation without the mechanism of causation. The Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer spent much of her career documenting what she called the illusion of control, the human tendency to overestimate personal influence over outcomes that are actually random or automatic. Her 1975 paper on the subject in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology remains the source text, and the elevator button has become an unintended memorial to her findings. The button is a compliance device. It gets the passenger through fifteen seconds of waiting without becoming the kind of passenger who kicks the door. The crosswalk button operates the same way. The thermostat operates the same way.
The object lesson is small. A button that does nothing is a minor embarrassment in the built environment. The interesting question is where else this logic operates, and the answer is most of civic life.
Public comment periods on federal rulemaking accept submissions from citizens by the hundreds of thousands. Agencies are required to read those submissions and consider them. In the vast majority of cases, the final rule reflects the draft rule. The comment did not change the outcome. Its filing was registered. Citizens who submit receive an acknowledgment. That acknowledgment was the point.
City council meetings in most American municipalities include a public comment segment during which residents address the council for two or three minutes each on matters of local governance. Council members are not required to respond. A council member is also not required to incorporate the comment into deliberation. Votes that follow get decided in committee or caucus before the comment begins. The resident goes home having pressed the button. Its light comes on. That door closes on the timer it was going to close on anyway.
Surveys distributed by employers after reorganizations, by airlines after delays, by hospitals after treatment, by universities after lectures, arrive with the implicit promise that the responses will influence future decisions. Response data gets aggregated and presented in quarterly reports to executives who have already made the next round of decisions. The survey is a button that lights up. No door closes any faster.
Electoral systems with gerrymandered district lines produce outcomes pre-determined by the shape of the district rather than the preferences of the voters. A voter in a district drawn to favor a party by twenty points is pressing a button connected to a timer set six years before the election. Ballots get counted. The vote does not change the outcome. An illusion of control persists, and the citizen who pressed the button walks out of the polling place with the civic sensation of participation.
The placebo button is not a conspiracy. No central authority installed these systems to deceive. An elevator button represents a cost-benefit decision by building owners. A crosswalk button persists as legacy infrastructure nobody retired. Public comment periods exist as procedural requirements written into administrative law in 1946. Gerrymandered districts result from partisan legislatures drawing maps within a legal framework the Supreme Court has repeatedly declined to revise. Each placebo button got there through a defensible local decision. The pattern they form together is a democracy where the buttons light up reliably and the doors close on the schedule they were always going to close on.
The dangerous version of this pattern is the one where citizens learn the buttons do nothing and continue pressing them. Compliance does not require belief. The door-close button still gets pressed by passengers who know it does nothing, because pressing it is what one does in an elevator, and because the alternative is standing silent in a small box with a stranger for fifteen seconds. Voting in a gerrymandered district still gets done by voters who know the district will produce the predetermined outcome, because voting is what one does as a citizen, and because the alternative is admitting the system is closed.
The recognition that matters is the one that separates the buttons that work from the buttons that do not, and the organizing that follows is the organizing that rewires the boxes rather than the gesture of pressing. Ballot initiatives that establish independent redistricting commissions are rewiring. Lawsuits that force agencies to respond substantively to public comments are rewiring. Municipal charters that require council members to respond to comment on the record are rewiring. The door-close button in the elevator is a lost cause and not worth the fight. A crosswalk button at Thirty-Fourth Street is not worth the fight either. Ballots and comment periods and council meetings are worth every fight we can bring, because the apparatus behind those buttons is still capable of connection, and the difference between a democracy and an elevator panel is whether the wires on the other side of the panel still reach the doors.
#button #fakery #harvard #intention #nyc #placebo #psychology #tech #thermostats #wire #wires -
[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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Dear Microslop
In discussion with my fellow workers, we've finally moved from Teams to Wire - the latter a European based alternative to US Big Tech.
Once the Steam Machine drops and I can move away from my Xbox, your time is done for me. It'll be a Microslop account delete and a small party.
Yours,
A once loyal Windows/Windows Phone user -
[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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@LiveMusicArchiveUpdates Part one of this show is #MikeWatt and The Black Gang performing his entire album "Contemplating The Engine Room" in order.
Later, he covers #Wire and Television, among others #LiveConcert #LiveMusic #DolgerCollection -
[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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@ParadeGrotesque Lol, German politicians receive some no‑brainer scam phishing QR codes and SMS resets from so‑called 'trust me bro, I'm Signal support' scammers — probably Russian intel. Then they either scan or share those PINs with them, thereby literally handing their car keys to car thieves and then complain about #Signal xD hahahaha.
And what are they supposed to use instead of Signal? 🤔 In #Germany, for example, they now want to switch from #Signal to #Wire.
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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WIR - Vien+
Back when Robert Gotobed left Wire after Manscape, they owed some albums to Mute, and so WIR was born. They released one LP (The First Letter) and an EP: Vien.
Wire always does something interesting for RSD, and this year, they released the Vien EP that had previously only been available on CD and digitally.
But they didn't stop there. They re-recorded So and Slow and added it—a nice touch, and a good version, too (more like the live one)—Vien+.
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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Hier der Link https://three.ma/politiciansde zur deutschen Seite von threema : Eine Klarstellung der in den Medien – unter anderem auch im ÖRR – irreführend und unrichtig kolportieren Ereignissen um die Übernahme von Signal-Konten deutscher Politiker:innen durch russische Staatsakteure.
Das schwächste Glied einer Sicherheitskette ist und bleibt der Mensch!
Ich frage mich allerdings, warum das BSI jetzt den Messenger Wire preferiert.
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#klöckner #signal #socialengineering #wire -
《Die Debatte verdeutlicht ein tieferliegendes Problem: Oft ist nicht die Technik die Schwachstelle, sondern der Mensch.》
Statt #Signal: Bundestagspräsidentin empfiehlt Wechsel zu #Wire | heise online https://www.heise.de/news/Digitale-Souveraenitaet-Wire-soll-Signal-als-Standard-im-Bundestag-abloesen-11275640.html #messenger #Verschlüsselung #encryption #Datenschutz #privacy @signalapp
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THE WIRE, YOU UNDERSTAND? THE WIRE!
https://mastodon.social/@AwetTesfaiesus/116491714794162656
Feel free to share you #TheSopranos content (or #TheWire if you are that kind of person) if you feel, what I feel right now!
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Dass Julia den Wechsel von Signal zu Wire verlangt, beweist, dass sie das Problem nicht verstanden hat.
Nicht die Software ist in diesem Fall das Problem, sondern die den Messenger benutzende Person, der auf Social Engineering (Phishing) hereinfällt. Ein Problem, dem man nicht mit dem Wechsel des Messengers begegnet, sondern mit Schulung der Benutzenden.
Aber Julia hat natürlich keinen Fehler gemacht, unvorstellbar, also muss es an der Software liegen. Also muss die Software ausgewechselt werden.
Aber auch mit Wire wird Phishing möglich sein. Und wenn das passiert, dann wird Julia wieder den Fehler bei der Software suchen. Denn wie gesagt: An ihr kann es gar nicht liegen.
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RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog/116484096580986887
#Wire ist europäisch und hält die Daten in der EU. Deshalb trotz allem wechseln - und hier wie da nicht auf #Phishing-Nachrichten hereinfallen!
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Bundestagspräsidentin Julia Klöckner empfiehlt Abgeordneten den Wechsel von Signal zu Wire. Auslöser sind Phishing-Angriffe.#WDR #Schieb #Digital #Signal #Messenger #Klöckner #Hack #Phishing #Angriff #Sicherheit #BSI #Wire #DeutschlandInternational
Wie sicher ist mein Messenger? Was nach dem Bundestags-Wirbel wirklich zählt -
Dass die Leute von #Signal auf #Wire umsteigen wollen, ist kompletter Schwachsinn — mit Verlaub, werte #TechAnalphabeten*innen. 🤦🙄🔁 #Signal #Wire #TechAnalphabeten #Datenschutz #Messaging #Politiker*innen #Deutschland
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Die Phishing-Affäre um Klöckner, ihre KollegInnen und deren offensichtliche Unfähigkeit, banalste Grundregeln einzuhalten, hat auch einen positiven Aspekt: Wir haben die Chance, ins Gespräch zu kommen über notwendige Sicherheitsmaßnahmen. Und es macht den (f kleine Teams kostenl) Messenger #Wire bekannt: ein wirklich gutes Produkt, das ein unverdientes Schattendasein führt. https://wire.com/de/
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Julia Klöckner macht aus ihrer Phishing-Erfahrung eine Lernstunde für die Abgeordneten.
Zum Artikel: https://heise.de/-11275640?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&utm_source=mastodon
#wire #bundestag #messenger #digitaleSouveränität #cybersicherheit
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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Mal den nächsten #Messenger ausprobieren :D #Wire Wer nutzt diesen bereits und kann seine Erfahrungen damit teilen?
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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Ich bin auch etwas irritiert: in Fediverse Beiträgen aus diesem Jahr wird Wire als "europäische" Lösung " benannt, während im Kuketz Block von 2020 steht, dass die schweiz. Firma durch eine US Firma gekauft wurde umd die Server durch Amazon betrieben werden ( wegen CloudAct ist der Standort in der EU für Eingriffe durch die USA ja wurscht) womit es ein US Dienst wäre.
Hat sich Eigentümer oder der Serverstandort seit 2020 wieder in die EU verlegt?
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Wire - Read & Burn 03
This is where the original configuration of Wire came to an end, with the departure of Bruce Gilbert in 2004...released on vinyl for the first time.
I was fortunate to see them during the Send tour (the last with Gilbert) at the Middle East.
Anyway, it's Wire, it's great. Here's a video of 23 Years Too Late:
and an essay about the track by Colin Newman
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q_TZx3LEem1hIFf3al4Sb8sTsh8yMmQh/view
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Wire - Read & Burn 03
This is where the original configuration of Wire came to an end, with the departure of Bruce Gilbert in 2004...released on vinyl for the first time.
I was fortunate to see them during the Send tour (the last with Gilbert) at the Middle East.
Anyway, it's Wire, it's great. Here's a video of 23 Years Too Late:
and an essay about the track by Colin Newman
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q_TZx3LEem1hIFf3al4Sb8sTsh8yMmQh/view
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Wire - Read & Burn 03
This is where the original configuration of Wire came to an end, with the departure of Bruce Gilbert in 2004...released on vinyl for the first time.
I was fortunate to see them during the Send tour (the last with Gilbert) at the Middle East.
Anyway, it's Wire, it's great. Here's a video of 23 Years Too Late:
and an essay about the track by Colin Newman
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q_TZx3LEem1hIFf3al4Sb8sTsh8yMmQh/view
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Wire - Read & Burn 03
This is where the original configuration of Wire came to an end, with the departure of Bruce Gilbert in 2004...released on vinyl for the first time.
I was fortunate to see them during the Send tour (the last with Gilbert) at the Middle East.
Anyway, it's Wire, it's great. Here's a video of 23 Years Too Late:
and an essay about the track by Colin Newman
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q_TZx3LEem1hIFf3al4Sb8sTsh8yMmQh/view
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
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[#TRADESHOW] The 26th #China (#Guangzhou) #International #Plate Metal, #Bar, #Wire, Metal #Processing & #Setting #Equipment #Exhibition 2026 from May 16 to 18, 2026, at the China #Import and #Export #Fair #Complex (#CantonFair Complex). The #expo has become an important #platform #event for the metal processing and #steel #industry, bringing together #manufacturers, equipment #suppliers, and #industrial #buyers across the entire production and processing #business chain. https://cnbusinessforum.com/event/26th-china-guangzhou-international-plate-metal-bar-wire-metal-processing-setting-equipment-exhibition-2026/
