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A Fitness Discussion with MyAI about Silos, Running, Cycling, and Strava

Years ago we had bulky GPS watches that we wore only when we were hiking or doing sports. They only tracked our speed, location, and elevation. With time they were made less hideous and more socially acceptable. We could go from wearing them when doing sports, to when doing nothing.

With time wrist HR monitoring and step counters were added and so these devices added to the quantified self habit. They counted how much we walked, how long we were still, and how how heart was doing for the entire day.

Companies like Apple and Google gameified our quantified self. You must stand for one minute an hour. You must be active for half an hour a day. You must burn 300 kcals per day. They went from watches that we could wear just when we were doing sports, to watches that quantified our activities 24/7. With gameificiation they almost forced us to wear their devices to feed their data silos.

Garmin has its silo. Suunto has another, and Apple has a third. The result is that, in theory, if you have devices for all three brands you need to wear all three devices simultaneously to feed each data silo.

In reality Suunto is happy to get data from the Apple watch via Sportstracker and it’s just as happy to get a workout file from Garmin. In essence Suunto is the ‘silo’ that is friendliest with external data, which makes it one of the most interesting. The interest comes from having the flexibility to wear a Garmin, Apple or Suunto device. All of them can be ingested.

With Garmin, if you import a GPX file it will log the distance, and other metrics, but will not count fatigue and other variables. It reserves certain metrics to its own sources.

Apple is the most paradoical of all. You buy an expensive phone, and then you buy an expensive watch that lasts for one day, before needing a charge. If you buy the SE charging is slower than if you buy the more “luxurious” models.

The paradox with Apple comes from it ingesting data from Suunto, from Garmin, and from other sources, but refusing to use that data for the fitness app. This is especially absurd since it actually has all of our fitness data. They want to force us to use an Apple watch.

Fitness and Freshness

Apps such as Strava, Garmin, Suunto and Fitness all quantify our fitness. It counts our walks, our runs, our climbs, our skateboarding, our cycling, our hiking and more. It then tells us how hard we worked and how fatigued we are.

The issue is that this information is siloed by each brand. This means that if you work out for four months with Apple, and then wear a Garmin for two days, then your Apple fitness will drop, because you were inactive, and Garmin will say “You’re overdoing it, consider resting” because of the leap from zero activity to some activity.

These watches all track fitness and freshness in their own silos, so if you slide between Apple for three days, and then suunto for two, and Garmin for one, let’s say because you walked with Apple, ran with Suunto, and cycled with Garmin, then each app sees a different fitness picture. It’s only by wearing your device(s) full time that you get a full picture, and not just full time, but for weeks, months or even years for an accurate evaluation of fatigue and exhaustion.

On the Topic of Sports Related fatigue

With Strava you can look at Fitness and Freshness overall, as well as by sport, whether running, swimming, or other. If you’re willing to pay for Strava Premium, then you can look at this data, whilst being platform independent, since data from Suunto, Garmin, Apple and many other sources is aggregated. The more data you add, the more complete the image. In essence you can track with a single device at a time, and get a good oversight, once you pay for premium.

The Apple Silo

The paradox is that Strava and Apple both have acess to the same user data, but whereas Apple chooses only to use its own data, Strava uses everyone’s data. If Apple opened up the Fitness App then it would compete directly with Strava for that niche.

In reality Suunto and Sportstracker are in a good position to compete with Strava and the Apple Fitness app because of how easy it is to import data from multiple sources. The key drawback is that it is a manual, rather than automated process, for now.

Why Would you Have Multiple Devices

There are people who go for a bike ride wearing an Apple watch. Other people who do a lot of hiking might have a Garmin Instinct or a Garmin Instinct 2. I use this device as an example because it’s cheap. Others might have a Garmin Fenix 7 or 7s because they have the budget and they buy one device every few years, so it’s justifiable to splurge. I noticed that one or three people use the Suunto App directly.

Others have Wahoo, Garmin, Cateye or other cycling specific devices that they use for navigation and climb information. That’s why I upgraded from an Explore to an Explore 2. Over time, as you switch devices you might switch brands, and that’s when you’re across two or more silos, and that’s when you have to decide whether to start from scratch or straddle two or more ecosystems. Tools exist to help you merge, in theory, but if that then propagates then you might end up with hundreds, or thousands of duplicates, with no practical way of tidying up.

And Finally

My Apple Watch SE battery was so depleted a few months ago that it became unusable. Luckily I noticed when it was protected by Apple Care+ so replacing the battery was free. The side effect is that now the watch should be alive and well for another two or more years, hence having to decide which devices to prioritise.

In Conlusion

I know that “and finally” and “in Conclusion” are the same thing but I feel like embelishing. For a long time we used GPS watches as GPS watches, but with time, as they tracked the quantified self, and fitness progression so the need for complete data grew. That’s why wearing three watches simultaneously stops being absurd and starts being logical. The issue is that when we slide between platforms we lose continuity if we don’t wear devices A, B, and C. That’s where Strava give us the flexibility to slide between platforms, without losing the geostationary satellite view of our fitness progression.

It is absurd to wear two or three watches, but if the data is siloed, then either we’re eccentric, or we depend on paywall features from apps like Strava.

Suunnon urheilukelloille saapui iso ohjelmistopäivitys

Karttaominaisuudet paranivat ja uutena toimintona tuli käyttöön urheilusuoritusten jälkeen mitattava palautumissyke.

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#suunto #urheilukello #älykello #juoksu #uutiset #teknologia #tekniikka

Playing With Our Sports Data With Eleventy and Strava

This month Apple wants me to walk ten point three kilometres with the Apple Watch 10 times. Garmin and Strava want me to cycle 8000m uphill, 800km horizontally, and more. Apple, Garmin and one or two other companies want me to walk 300,000 steps per month.

Now, I have two ways of achieving these goals. The first way is to wear a Garmin watch to keep up with Garmin challenges, An Apple Watch for Apple challenges, a Suunto watch for Suunto challenges.

Alternativaly I could write a few lines of Javascript in my Eleventy-Strava project that allows me to track Garmin inspired, Suunto inspired and Apple inspired challenges, whilst wearing just one watch, rather than three.

The rational is simple. Of course, I could settle for Strava challenges, and wear a single watch, but where’s the fun in that. Suunto has one way of tracking fitness progress, Garmin has another, and Apple has a third. Apple also has an entire ecosystem of third party apps, for 25 CHF per year, up to 130 CHF per year if you’re eccentric. That cost is per app, not in total.

People feel that Garmin Connect+ is expensive at 75 CHF, and Strava at between 75 CHF solo, and 130 CHF with Runna, is also expensive. The cheapest gym membership is 49 CHF per month, but paid at once, and for a minimum commitment of a year.

The Fun Part – Personal Challenges

I live by the Jura so it’s normal, during the cycling season to ride up and down the Jura at least once per week. We could have a “Climbed the Jura” challenge. We could then count how many times I do it in a month. Another metric could be to count how many times I walked from Nyon to Geneva, distance wise.

I could also count how many centuries I do in a month. A metric century is a 100km ride.

Several apps track whether you run a 5k, 10k, 21k or 42k run. It would be easy to have a count of how many of each we accomplish per month.

Achievement Fatigue

I am just three days away from having closed all my rings 2250 times with the Apple watch and yet I rarely look at it these days. I look, at least once per month to see what the month’s challenge is, but other than that I grew less interested in it. If I mention adding this to the Strava-Eleventy experiment, it’s to see the code that would make this work, and as practice for prompt “engineering”. It’s about experimenting, and coming up with new projects.

In my summaries page, per year I could have “I ran ten 5k, three 10k, one 21k” and I cycled 50km or more twenty times, 100k or more, sixteen times and more”.

People, at the end of last year said “paying premium for the end of year summaries wasn’t worth it. With my playful idea, you’d have that yearly summary, all year long, and for as many years as you have been tracking sports.

Whether To Look Forward, or Backwards

At the moment I’m working from the Strava activities CSV, and each time I go for a run, walk, or cycle, I export it, add the strava event number and ad a line to the activities csv. It is then reflected on the site.

The questions are whether I want to check if various challenges are met for each future activity and if so how do I want to use that information. Do I want it to be checked on each build, or do I want to make it persistent? Yesterday I added a script to log tyre changes.

For runs I could have a script that checks “if a run is more than 5k, but less than ten mark it in the 5k list, if it’s between 10-21k mark it as 10k, and if it’s more than 21.1k mark it as 21k. It can function outside of the eleventy build process since this can add to the build time.

With the blog there was a long build time, due to some logic running for each build. When it was cached, then the build time was shrunk, and then shrunk again. That’s part of the learning process.

And Finally

The key strength of the Eleventy-Strava experiment is that once rendered it is tremendously fast. I can find information conveniently, without much waiting. If I use Garmin’s yearly summary displays as inspiration I could replicate what I find interesting. I will then see how figures changed through the years. The last two years have seen a lot of cycling. Previous years would have seen hiking, climbing and more.

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The Zero Second Not a Number Strava Mystery

Yesterday I noticed that I had an unusual workout that was getting likes. It had zero minutes of exercise, zero distance travelled, and NaN speed in km/h. In other words I had a track that should not have been counted by Strava as a workout.

Everyone is familiar. If you go for a ten minute walk, or a fifteen minute walk Apple will ask “track walk/cycle” and you’ll say yes. When you go to Sports Tracker and other apps, you will notice that there is no map, just duration, and a high speed.

When you wear the apple watch it wakes up after ten to fifteen minutes and asks “track workout?” and you’ll say yes. If you’re lucky your phone will have the GPS track. If you’re unlucky it won’t.

Yesterday I suspect that the Apple watch created two files. The first file was the workout with a static GPS point, fabricated when I accepted the workout. The second file, just 3 minutes, was counted as a 3min cycle at 56 km/h. I noticed the same thing last week within the same scenario.

I usually think “A three kilometre bike ride is not worth tracking, so I don’t bother starting the GPS. In yesterday’s scenario we had three complications.

The first is that because Suunto and Sports tracker are logged in to the same account I can track with either the Apple Watch or the Suunto watch, but if I track with both then I get duplicate data. That’s why I wore the Apple watch but tracked with the Suunto run.

I tracked the ride to the ride, and the ride itself with the Suunto device, and then I stopped it at the end of the group ride. It didn’t ask me whether to count the group ride, on the Apple Watch.

When I rode home I tracked with the Garmin Explore 2 but didn’t keep the data. With the Garmin Explore 2 I want the map/climb duration features, but track recording is as a backup. Since the ride home was untracked by the Suunto device when the Apple Watch asked “Track workout” I said “yes” so it did.

That’s when I thought “oups, that was a mistake”. Rationally it makes perfect sense that it kept just the 12 minute ride, rather than the entire ride in three parts. At the same time when I saw the zero minute, zero distance, zero speed error file I was curious.

What is curious is that the file seems to have been spliced. One file has the HR data, and the other has the GPS data. I suspect that with clear breaks between part 1, the ride from home to the start of the ride, part 2, the ride, and part 3, the ride home Apple theoretically has three signals for workouts, but it only kept the most recent. It didn’t restore parts 1 and 2. That is normal and expected behaviour.

TDLR

An Apple Watch automatically detects that you might be walking, running or cycling, and it will ask “Do you want to record this”. If your bike ride is twelve minutes, then by the time you say yes the activity is over. It (the apple watch) then backtracks to find the HR data but may not have access to location data. That’s why the activity duration is logged, but not the GPS co-ordinates.

Strava saw one file, and showed the route correctly, but got the corrupted data and displayed that data as a workout. I noticed when I was AFK (Away from keyboard) so I saw people liking it, but I couldn’t delete it. I was curious to see which app created this mess, and I strongly suspect that it’s from data the Apple Watch gave to Sports tracker, which was then read by the Suunto app, before passing it to Strava. The activity that is correct is the one that Apple sent directly to Strava, If I remember correctly.

In conclusion, it’s not the Apple watch, by itself, but rather Apple, Sportstracer, suunto and strava going through generations of a gpx file before returning NaN.

And Finally

It is better to intentionally track workouts from the start, rather than 10 or more minutes into an activity, as an afterthought. As we have seen the files tend to be improperly formed. Neither Sports tracker, Suunto nor Strava know what to do with the data. It’s a case for leaving the Apple Watch at home, or turning off Suunto to Strava synching.

The one caveat is that when you turn off sync, you get a backlog the next time you enable it. It’s easier to delete activities after the fact.

Ich dachte letztens:

So wie es ist darf es auf keinen Fall sein.

Auslöser war mangelnde Qualität von Produkten, insbesondere bei Fitness-Uhren von #Polar, #Garmin und #Suunto, deren Apps auch nach Jahren nicht zuverlässig die Aktivität synchronisieren. Das Betrifft auch Uhren für 650 Euro. Das kann doch nicht sein!

Ich hab die Schritte von einem Tag verloren.

Der Gedanke passt aber auch zu allem anderen was passiert und wie die Welt generell ist.

#Kapitalismus #Qualität #Markt #Gedanke

So #runnersofmastodon what would you do when you pick your #Suunto #Wing from the charging cradle and see this? Seems there is something oozing out from the battery(?) 🔋 Wing pretends to be operating normally. I also wonder if the battery is on this side only and if i can fix that.

On Self Hosting and Having Multiple Devices

I grew up in the eighties, and 90s, and so computing, open source software and the world wide web grew up with me. In that time we went from going to magazine shops to buy mags, and cd shops to buy CDs, and book shops to buy books. We also took photos on rolls of films and then took those rolls to La Combe or the Garden Centre to have the films processed, and then we put them in albums.

When we had VCRs and VHS tapes we would either record things from terrestrial TV or satellite TV to VHS. We would have shelves, and furniture to store all of this physical media.

Shifting to Digital from Physical

With time we began to have feature phones with cameras, and then digital photo cameras. We went from using VHS tapes to having digital satellite receivers paired with PVRs. We went from using physical mediums to digital mediums and with time our habits changed.

For a long time we took photos, and if we scanned them, or if we digitised video tapes, then we would have electronic versions, stored on hard drives in our homes. For years we went for walks and took pictures with digital photo cameras, and eventually mobile phones, and then we would transfer them to our computer's hard drive, before uploading them via Picasa and other sites to share on the web via Flickr and other sites.

Wired Synchronisation

When I went for scuba dives and hikes my Suunto Dive computer or Suunto GPS watch would track my activity. When I got home I would remove the watch from my wrist and I would sync that data to Sports Tracker, and eventually MovesCount, and then back to Sports Tracker, Strava, Komoot and a multitude of services.

With the Ambit 2 and the Ambit 3 we would go for a hike, and then sync the data by connecting the watch to the computer. With the Suunto Spartan Wrist HR Baro watch, and other watches our data was synced automatically from our watch to the app, and then to cloud services. We no longer charged our device after every outing.

Seamless Syncing to Cloud Services

Over the years, as mobile phones improved, and as projects like Picasa and iPhoto gained maturity so culture shifted. We shifted away from desktops with easily upgradeable storage to laptops with half a terabyte of storage. As all of our devices synched either to Google Photos, and Google Drive, or with iPhotos and iCloud, so we dropped the habit of storing things locally.

This was for two reasons. The first is that we had terabytes of data now and only half a terabyte on our laptops, and 128gb on our mobile phones. We can get iPhones with more storage but that takes you from 3 CHF per month to 10 CHF per month with iCloud for two Terabytes. With Google One it costs 100 CHF per year for the same amount of storage. With Kdrive it costs 67 CHF per year for six terabytes. With kDrive you can easily back up to the cloud, and seamlessly back up at home.

Backing up to the cloud became so simple and intuitive that a generation grew up, never thinking of hard drives and local storage, because they're cloud native.

I saw an article "I finally understand why people self-host their media" and it illustrates the paradigm shift from my childhood to today.

When I was playing with self-hosting, and learning about Photoprism, Immich and other self-hosting solutions I thought about the shift from computer applications that ran on our desktops, stored on our personal computers, towards the age of the laptop and cloud based apps.

In essence, as we moved from using our desktop when we were home, to laptops at university, and then all the time, so we dropped the desktop, and local applications.

A Multi Device Life

In this day and age we might have an Apple laptop, a linux laptop and two or three phones that we have, from years of using phones until the battery begins to fail and then replacing them. This means that our decentralised media consumption habits, via phone, laptop, fitness watch and more, encourages us to shift from desktop apps to self-hosted apps on servers. Instead of having a single computer with 'huge' amounts of storage we're using phones with 128gb of storage and laptops with half a terabyte.

If you're curious about why I keep bringing up 128gb of storage, it's because this is the most affordable option for iPhones, and it can still be backed up to iCloud without investing in the 10 CHF per month plan. With a 200 or 500gb phone you would need to upgrade to a more expensive cloud solution if you don't self-host.

On Streaming Films, TV, but Not Music

Years ago I streamed music, until I realised that whereas I would spend 30-90 CHF in a year on music, at most, I spent much more on streaming services. That's why I dumped streaming services. It's cheaper to buy an "album". You also listen to the same songs, over and over again, so it makes sense to own them rather than stream them.

With film and television it is different. For 40 CHF or more you buy a film or TV series, watch it once, and then it's gathering dust, and degrading gradually over time.

I was going to expand on this topic but it's simple. Self-hosting TV series and films costs more money than it saves.

And Finally

When I was learning about Linux and self-hosting I eventually thought, "but self hosting is just running an app locally, like we used to do before. The only difference is that the app is on a server, rather than our main computer."

I believe that the shift from iPhoto and Picasa to cloud based solutions and self-hosting reflects a shift from a desktop and laptop centric use case to a more diverse one, where cloud based apps simplify our technological flow throughout the day.

Now that I use a Mac Mini certain habits might change. It's easier to keep an HD plugged permanently.

On Self Hosting and Having Multiple Devices

I grew up in the eighties, and 90s, and so computing, open source software and the world wide web grew up with me. In that time we went from going to magazine shops to buy mags, and cd shops to buy CDs, and book shops to buy books. We also took photos on rolls of films and then took those rolls to La Combe or the Garden Centre to have the films processed, and then we put them in albums.

When we had VCRs and VHS tapes we would either record things from terrestrial TV or satellite TV to VHS. We would have shelves, and furniture to store all of this physical media.

Shifting to Digital from Physical

With time we began to have feature phones with cameras, and then digital photo cameras. We went from using VHS tapes to having digital satellite receivers paired with PVRs. We went from using physical mediums to digital mediums and with time our habits changed.

For a long time we took photos, and if we scanned them, or if we digitised video tapes, then we would have electronic versions, stored on hard drives in our homes. For years we went for walks and took pictures with digital photo cameras, and eventually mobile phones, and then we would transfer them to our computer's hard drive, before uploading them via Picasa and other sites to share on the web via Flickr and other sites.

Wired Synchronisation

When I went for scuba dives and hikes my Suunto Dive computer or Suunto GPS watch would track my activity. When I got home I would remove the watch from my wrist and I would sync that data to Sports Tracker, and eventually MovesCount, and then back to Sports Tracker, Strava, Komoot and a multitude of services.

With the Ambit 2 and the Ambit 3 we would go for a hike, and then sync the data by connecting the watch to the computer. With the Suunto Spartan Wrist HR Baro watch, and other watches our data was synced automatically from our watch to the app, and then to cloud services. We no longer charged our device after every outing.

Seamless Syncing to Cloud Services

Over the years, as mobile phones improved, and as projects like Picasa and iPhoto gained maturity so culture shifted. We shifted away from desktops with easily upgradeable storage to laptops with half a terabyte of storage. As all of our devices synched either to Google Photos, and Google Drive, or with iPhotos and iCloud, so we dropped the habit of storing things locally.

This was for two reasons. The first is that we had terabytes of data now and only half a terabyte on our laptops, and 128gb on our mobile phones. We can get iPhones with more storage but that takes you from 3 CHF per month to 10 CHF per month with iCloud for two Terabytes. With Google One it costs 100 CHF per year for the same amount of storage. With Kdrive it costs 67 CHF per year for six terabytes. With kDrive you can easily back up to the cloud, and seamlessly back up at home.

Backing up to the cloud became so simple and intuitive that a generation grew up, never thinking of hard drives and local storage, because they're cloud native.

I saw an article "I finally understand why people self-host their media" and it illustrates the paradigm shift from my childhood to today.

When I was playing with self-hosting, and learning about Photoprism, Immich and other self-hosting solutions I thought about the shift from computer applications that ran on our desktops, stored on our personal computers, towards the age of the laptop and cloud based apps.

In essence, as we moved from using our desktop when we were home, to laptops at university, and then all the time, so we dropped the desktop, and local applications.

A Multi Device Life

In this day and age we might have an Apple laptop, a linux laptop and two or three phones that we have, from years of using phones until the battery begins to fail and then replacing them. This means that our decentralised media consumption habits, via phone, laptop, fitness watch and more, encourages us to shift from desktop apps to self-hosted apps on servers. Instead of having a single computer with 'huge' amounts of storage we're using phones with 128gb of storage and laptops with half a terabyte.

If you're curious about why I keep bringing up 128gb of storage, it's because this is the most affordable option for iPhones, and it can still be backed up to iCloud without investing in the 10 CHF per month plan. With a 200 or 500gb phone you would need to upgrade to a more expensive cloud solution if you don't self-host.

On Streaming Films, TV, but Not Music

Years ago I streamed music, until I realised that whereas I would spend 30-90 CHF in a year on music, at most, I spent much more on streaming services. That's why I dumped streaming services. It's cheaper to buy an "album". You also listen to the same songs, over and over again, so it makes sense to own them rather than stream them.

With film and television it is different. For 40 CHF or more you buy a film or TV series, watch it once, and then it's gathering dust, and degrading gradually over time.

I was going to expand on this topic but it's simple. Self-hosting TV series and films costs more money than it saves.

And Finally

When I was learning about Linux and self-hosting I eventually thought, "but self hosting is just running an app locally, like we used to do before. The only difference is that the app is on a server, rather than our main computer."

I believe that the shift from iPhoto and Picasa to cloud based solutions and self-hosting reflects a shift from a desktop and laptop centric use case to a more diverse one, where cloud based apps simplify our technological flow throughout the day.

Now that I use a Mac Mini certain habits might change. It's easier to keep an HD plugged permanently.

Back to Suunto From Garmin

I like Garmin Connect and the Garmin Instinct 2. Both the app, and the device are good and they're reliable for tracking sports on a daily basis. Having said this, I felt the urge to slide back to my Suunto devices and the Suunto app. For many, many, many years I was very happy with suunto getting two dive computers, one feature watch an ambit 2, ambit 3, Suunto Spartan and Peak 5.

I used these for hiking, climbing, scuba diving, swimming, running and one or two other sports. For years I had no issues with this brand but I was curious to slide towards Garmin, to see what that experience was like. It has been good so far.

Recently I noticed that with the Garmin Instinct 2, as well as the Explore, and Explore 2 synchronisation between the device and phone app were slow. Sometimes I would finish a workout and it would take minutes to sync rather than seconds.

Aside from the slowness of the app I also notice feature creep. They want us to log food, and to pay a yearly fee, rather than just paying for a device and using it for a few years before paying for another device and using that for another few years.

Digital Sovereignty and Fitness

In theory I should dump Garmin, Apple and Strava, in favour of Suunto, Sports tracker and komoot. In this day and age America forgets that although some people want to migrate to the US, plenty of people spend billions on IT, Apps, devices and more. Garmin and Apple really benefit from Europeans and the rest of the world using American brands, rather than local ones.

Google, Apple and others are actively kissing the ring, so it really pushes me to break from their brands. In contrast, from what I have seen so far, Garmin endures, rather than goes out of its way to please a certain individual and his entourage.

A Desire to Support Local

While the US treats the world like an enemy, rather than a friend, I feel like supporting local companies and products. I feel like supporting infomaniak for some things, and Suunto for others, and Rivella for more, and Galaxus for yet others. I want to cut my reliance on the US.

Suunto and Komoot

Suunto is Finnish, although owned by a Chinese company, and Komoot is German, Both are local to our continent, and yet we automatically gravitate towards the US centric apps and devices, rather than local ones. This is a normal part of life, but in the current circumstances it is absurd. We should support local, to Europe, projects.

Privacy

For a while Strava had better privacy than Komoot. I noticed that we can now give an address and an area will be masked automatically, to hide where we live, work, or where we start activities from a place where friends, or family might live. That's useful, because it means I don't need to crop an activity before sharing it. That saves time.

And Finally

In the end I like to bounce between apps and platforms so I look for excuses to slide from one to the other. In essence Strava and Komoot are fed automatically, whereas Apple Fitness, Garmin and Suunto need to be fed data directly. This means that Strava and Komoot are safe, although I will pivot to Komoot in future. I don't want to stick with Garmin, and Strava, if they both suffer from cost creep.

Of Apple, Casio, Garmin and Suunto Wearing

Reading Time: 4 minutes

There was a time, for decades, if not centuries, when a watch provided us with the time. We would wear it in a pocket, attached to a chain, we would stare up at a clock tower and we would see the time. We might even hear church bells to indicate every quarter, half and full hour. In the last decade we have gone from wearing watches to tell time, to watches that quantify us.

They quantify our heart rate, our step count, our position in the world, our altitude, the barometric pressure, our speed, our climb rate, our depth underwater, our tissue compartment saturating and safety stop requirements and more.

Wrist Default

By default we place watches on our wrists because that is where watches have traditionally gone, and when I say watches I mean one at a time. I don't mean that we would wear four at once. Normal people wear one watch, if they wear a watch in the first place.

A Collection of Wrist Worn Watches

In the age of the quantified self, via wrist watch, so each brand, whether Suunto, Garmin, Apple, Casio, Xiaomi and others collect and feed their own DB. As a result, if you buy a watch from a new brand than you usually wear, you feed a new database. If you don't want a gap in your history you need to wear the new watch, and the old one, to feed both databases.

In light of this, it makes sense to move where watches are worn. Some manufacturers have moved data acquisition to our fingers. In other cases people wear a heart rate belt. This is especially useful in winter when sleeves make watches hard to access. If we wear a watch over our jacket sleeve it is easy to access.

Tracking Activities From the App

Xiaomi made the interesting decision, unique to them, in so far as I have seen, to allow you to start tracking an activity from the mobile phone app, rather than from the device. This allows you to wear the tracker on your ankle hidden under a sock, for example, rather than on your wrist.

In so doing you can quantify your walks, bike rides, and more, without having a fitness tracker on your wrist. It gives you the opportunity to wear a "normal" watch instead.

When watches got 24/7 HR tracking, and step counting and more, I was excited to play with the new features but now, years later, I find that smart watches tracking our sleep, heart rate, step count, stress and more is more of a distraction than a useful feature.

Cyclists and Duplicated Workouts

I have observed that cyclists often have duplicate cycling workouts. This is because they have their 'head unit' tracking a workout, as well as their sports watch. Both are automatically uploaded to Garmin and Strava so one workout is often deleted to favour the other. At least in this regard, I am normal.

The Clingy Lovers

Garmin and Apple both require you to wear a device 24/7 for two to four weeks with new devices, to give you certain types of data, and this is invasive. We shouldn't have to wear a device for 8 or more hours a day to get standing stats, and when we sleep for sleeping stats.

We shouldn't have to wear four devices to feed four databases because none of them are friends with each other. Ironically Xiaomi and Suunto are the best behaved, because xiaomi feeds the Suunto app with ease. Garmin, Suunto and Apple do not play well with each other. Each one is siloed. With Garmin you need to wear an Apple watch at the same time, for Apple to recognise the workout. If you do a workout with Garmin, then Apple ignores it.

For the Self

Garmin, Suunto, Sportstracker, Apple and Garmin are private, so the data is only seen by us, the users, so whether we feed one database or the other reflects our mental and emotional state, rather than social standing. Since no one, or almost can see the raw data across the platforms above it doesn't matter what we wear because Strava and Komoot are the public facing platforms

For Others - Strava and Komoot

In an ideal world Sports Tracker would be the pinnacle sharing sports app but in this day and age Strava is. Komoot was a contender for a while but people favour Strava, for now, so it makes sense to focus on Strava.

Suunto, Garmin, Xiaomi, Apple and more all feed to Strava natively. If you're happy with Strava being dominant, then a single device is fine.

And Finally

For 30-50 CHF the Xiaomi Smart bands are excellent. They can feed Strava and Suunto with ease, and the app provides us with interesting data as well. I would be happy to dump Apple because I think it's expensive for what it is, and the battery doesn't last long enough. Suunto is good, if you have the budget to buy their watches, and if you don't then Xiaomi is a good choice.

If I was to limit myself to wearing one watch it would be the Garmin Instinct 2 because it's the most capable watch I have, within an affordable price range. Interestingly I noticed that watches seem to better at tracking sleep, when they're worn on an ankle at night.

My Apple Watch SE 2nd gen recently had a battery change, and I changed one or two settings so it lasts for entire bike rides, which is positive.

And finally I allow myself to wear a fitness watch and a smart watch simultaneously because I feel that this can be justified. They serve different niches. My passion/interest in this subject is as a result of years of using these devices every single day to track walks, climbs, via ferrata, runs, swims, bike rides, snowshoeing, skateboarding, rollerblading and more. Ironically I don't remember tracking snowboarding.

#ankles #Apple #casio #Garmin #quantified #self #suunto #watches #wrists

Suunto haastoi Garminin oikeuteen

Kiinalaisomisteinen, entinen suomalainen urheilukellovalmistaja Suunto syyttää amerikkalaista Garminia lukuisten patenttiensa luvattomasta käytöstä kelloissaan.

https://www.puhelinvertailu.com/uutiset/2025/10/06/suunto-haastoi-garminin-oikeuteen

#garmin #suunto #oikeusjuttu #älykello #patentti #urheilukello #uutiset #teknologia #tekniikka

Sports Tracker is Waking Up

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In the 2000s I was using a Nokia N95 8gb with Sports tracker to track my walks every day. Eventually, when I started scuba diving I switched to Suunto to track dives, and eventually wore one for hikes, and then I upgraded to the Suunto Ambit 2, 3, Spartan Wrist HR Baro and then the Peak 5.

At the same time as I was jumping from one watch to another Sports Tracker was growing, and then Suunto bought it, and it became Movescount and this app was truly fantastic. I really loved the web app. It then became the Suunto App. Sports Tracker and the Suunto App are iterations of the same app. The Sports tracker app plays nicely with the Apple Watch, among other apps, whereas the Suunto app plays nicely with Suunto and Xiaomi devices.

I felt, for a long time, that Suunto wasn't taking advantage of how great the Movescount app was but in recent weeks I have noticed more social media posts for the Sports tracker app.

This morning, or last night I noticed the emergence of the "My Badges" tab. It has running, hiking, cycling, weight lifting, paddle sports, diving, snow adventure, stamina building and power striker.

It also rewards distance achievements and adventure milestones. The milestones seem to be forward looking. If they were retroactive then I would already have all of these badges, with ease, after three decades of using Sports Tracker, Movescount and the Suunto app.

On the Suunto app I have 486 activities logged, in part because I slid to Garmin to track certain sports and that's where the badges are present. On the Sports tracker app I have 4125 activities tracked, with 33,000 kilometres travelled over 2805 days and four thousand eight hundred and twelve hours of tracked activities.

On Strava I only have three thousand nine hundred plus activities. This is after years, and years of tracking sports.

And Finally

I would welcome a European company becoming more dominant in this space once again. It would be nice not to have to rely on Strava, Garmin and other apps. I was sad to see Movescount decline, and for years I felt that Sports Tracker and the Suunto apps would be abandonned. If they gain momentum I will be happy.

#Apple #Garmin #movescount #sportsTracker #strava #suunto

Oh wow, #SportsTracker ( #Salomon, #Suunto) redesigned their sports tracking app in version 7.1.0 and it’s a lot clearer.

The new daily health module and the newly available “commute” graphs in the widgets are a great addition 👍

Have you got favorite feature(s)?

Mine are the ability to find previous activities, see where in the world I’ve exercised (another reminder of how lucky I am), see my own heat map.
Seeing where I am compared to where I was once saved me a few times!

Suunto prezentuje nowości dla sportowców: zegarek Race 2 i słuchawki Wing 2 z przewodnictwem kostnym

Marka Suunto wprowadziła na rynek dwa nowe produkty skierowane do osób aktywnych fizycznie: zegarek sportowy Suunto Race 2 oraz drugą generację słuchawek Suunto Wing 2.

Nowy zegarek został przeprojektowany pod kątem wygody i dokładności pomiarów, a słuchawki wykorzystujące technologię przewodnictwa kostnego mają zapewnić komfort i bezpieczeństwo podczas treningu.

Suunto Race 2

Suunto Race 2 to nowa odsłona flagowego zegarka fińskiej marki, w której skupiono się na udoskonaleniu konstrukcji oraz kluczowych podzespołów. Obudowę wykonano z tworzywa sztucznego i metalu (stal nierdzewna lub tytan, zależnie od odmiany), co pozwoliło na zmniejszenie wagi i grubości urządzenia. Wersja tytanowa waży 65 gramów, a stalowa 76 gramów, przy grubości koperty wynoszącej 12,5 mm. Zegarek wyposażono w wyświetlacz AMOLED o średnicy 49 mm, który ma zapewniać wysoką czytelność w różnych warunkach. Jedną z najważniejszych nowości jest zastosowanie najdokładniejszego do tej pory w ofercie marki optycznego czujnika tętna.

Wewnątrz urządzenia znalazł się zmodernizowany procesor, który ma zapewnić płynniejsze działanie interfejsu i obsługę zaawansowanych funkcji. Zegarek oferuje do 12 dni pracy w trybie codziennego użytkowania lub do 50 godzin w najbardziej wymagającym trybie treningowym z aktywnym modułem GPS, śledzącym sygnał z wielu systemów satelitarnych.

Suunto Race 2 udostępnia ponad 115 trybów sportowych, w tym 22 zupełnie nowe. Użytkownicy mogą korzystać z takich narzędzi jak ClimbGuidance do planowania tras na wzniesieniach, mapy popularności (Heat maps) czy alerty pogodowe. Funkcje Suunto Coach i Suunto ZoneSense pomagają w analizie postępów i zapobieganiu przetrenowaniu.

Suunto Wing 2

Drugą premierą są słuchawki Suunto Wing 2, które wykorzystują technologię przewodnictwa kostnego i konstrukcję typu open-ear. Takie rozwiązanie pozwala na słuchanie muzyki przy jednoczesnym zachowaniu pełnej świadomości dźwięków otoczenia, co zwiększa bezpieczeństwo podczas treningów na zewnątrz. Słuchawki, wykonane z tytanu i silikonu, są wodoodporne i pyłoszczelne. Ciekawą funkcją jest możliwość ich bezpośredniego połączenia z zegarkiem Suunto, co pozwala na otrzymywanie komunikatów głosowych o postępach w treningu (np. tempie czy tętnie) bez spoglądania na ekran.

Słuchawki wyposażono w diody LED zwiększające widoczność użytkownika po zmroku, a sterowanie odtwarzaniem czy odbieraniem połączeń jest możliwe za pomocą gestów głowy. Bateria pozwala na 12 godzin ciągłego użytkowania, a szybkie ładowanie odbywa się przez port USB-C.

Dostępność i ceny w Polsce

Oba nowe urządzenia integrują się z aplikacją Suunto i ekosystemem ponad 300 partnerów. Sprzedaż Suunto Race 2 i Wing 2 rozpoczyna się 27 sierpnia na stronie producenta oraz u wybranych partnerów handlowych.

Ceny? Wersja zegarka ze stali nierdzewnej, oferowana jest w czterech kolorach (Coral Orange, All Black, Feather Gray oraz Wave Blue) i producent wycenia ją w swoim sklepie online na kwotę 2199 zł. Z kolei odmiana tytanowa, lżejsza, jest droższa, kosztuje 2599 zł bez względu na jeden z dwóch dostępnych kolorów: Titanium Black oraz Titanium Trail.

Natomiast jeżeli chodzi o słuchawki Suunto Wing 2, są one dostępne w dwóch kolorach (różnica w bardzie dotyczy samych słuchawek, pałąk jest identyczny): Coral Red oraz Black. Cena obu wariantów jest taka sama: 739 zł.

Suunto Run: nowy zegarek sportowy dla biegaczy

#bieganie #gadżetySportowe #news #openEar #słuchawkiZPrzewodnictwemKostnym #smartwatch #sport #Suunto #SuuntoRace2 #SuuntoWing2 #technologia #zegarekSportowy

Pitäis katsella uutta urheilu-/älykelloa. Pakolliset lajit juoksu (ulko), kävely (ulko) ja pyöräily (ulko). GPS, unenlaadun seuranta, sykkeenmittaus nyt ainakin pakkolisina ominaisuuksina.

Sen ei tarvitse toimia puhelimena. Jos siihen ny ilmoitukset saa niin hyvä. Tärkeämpää on tuo urheilusuoritusten mittaaminen, niistä saatavat tiedot ja sitten tuo unenlaadun mittaaminen.

Garmin, Polar, Suunto, Huawei, Honor, CMF by Nothing, Oneplus.....valikoimaa on melkoisesti 😬

Budjetti onkin sit tiukka....reilusti alle parisataa sais maksaa.

Tarkoituksena palauttaa liikunta jälleen osaksi arkea ja varsinkin juoksu osaksi elämäntapoja.

#urheilu #urheilukello #vinkit #garmin #polar #suunto #oneplus #cmfbynothing #huawei #honor #gps #hyvinvointi #alykello

Suunto Launches Aqua Open-Ear Headphones With RM1,099 Price Tag #aqua #audio #earbuds #headphones #openear #suunto

https://www.lowyat.net/2024/338821/suunto-aqua-open-ear-headphones/

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Yesterday I wore the Suunto Peak 5 alongside the Apple Watch SE rather than the Apple Watch SE and Garmin device as I usually would. The reason for this is that I want to continue playing with Suunto devices, and I'd like to wean myself off of the Apple Watch, for at least a week or two.

In the process of doing this I was reminded that although the Apple watch is pivotal within the iOS app ecosystem Garmin is very well connected with other services. I share Garmin data with 11 services. These services are Adidas Running, AllTrails, Asics runkeeper, Decathlon (added today), komoot, Nike, Ride with GPS, Strava, TrainAsOne, Walk the Distance and Zwift.

Although connected I use Zwift, TrainAsOne and other apps much less than I used to. The point is that we often think "I need to keep wearing the Apple watch because of all the apps that feed off it, which although true to some degree, is no less true about Garmin and the apps that it can feed with data.

Yesterday, by not wearing the Garmin watch 11 services got no data about my walks into and out of Geneva and Nyon yesterday. To some degree Garmin is more central to my fitness journey than the Apple watch.

Who Cares?

I wear an Apple watch, and I would like to stop wearing it. I don't because of all the connected services. At the same time, as I noticed yesterday and this morning, 11 servies get their data from my Garmin data, not the Apple watch. In light of this the Garmin device is more integral than the Apple watch.

And Finally

The Suunto Peak 5 currently thinks that my fitness age is 55 so I want to wear it when doing sports, to see my fitness age descend back down to 25, as it indicated a year or two ago. It's silly, but I feel this compulsion. For that to work I should go on an endurance bike ride for several hours but I don't want to tire myself ahead of friday's 5:30 run.

https://www.main-vision.com/richard/blog/garmin-and-other-services/

#Apple #Garmin #quantified #se #self #sports #suunto #watch

Hiking from El Portillo to almost the top of El Teide (didn't have a summit permit for the top, but doesn't really matter).

#Hiking #ElTeide #Tenerife #Suunto

Člověk se skládá minimálně ze třech hlavních částí, přičemž pro zdravý život si každá žádá to své.

Tělo chůzi,
mysl knihu,
duše klid.

#suunto #Chůze #baťoviny #EspressoTonic #CoffeeSourceFrancouzská