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Civil Discourse – Don’t Take the Bait – Joyce Vance

Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance

Don’t Take the Bait

By Joyce Vance, Jan 15, 2026

In the time of Trump, “Don’t take the bait” is a rule that’s almost as important as “Do not obey in advance.”

Following the shooting death of Renee Good and other incidents where agents played fast and loose with the rights of both American citizens and immigrants, ICE seems to be doing everything it can to be an accelerant to the tensions. Wednesday evening, DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said that federal agents were trying to arrest a man from Venezuela who was in the country illegally, when he fled from agents. She said he “began to resist and violently assault the officer,” and was joined by two other men who attacked the agent with a snow shovel and broom handle. McLaughlin said the agent feared for his life and shot the man they’d been trying to arrest in the leg.

There are obviously questions about this scenario, including how an agent ended up alone and whether a reasonable agent would have thought his life was at risk. As The New York Times put it, “The federal government’s narrative could not immediately be verified.” A crowd of about 200 people gathered after the shooting, and according to the police chief, engaged in illegal acts, including throwing fireworks at police. After agents from ICE’s sister agency, CBP, showed up in what the Times called a large, military-style vehicle, protesters “swarmed the vehicle and yelled and threw snowballs at agents.” Retreating agents fired tear gas-type canisters, and agents who arrived subsequently sprayed chemical agents against the protestors who moved toward them. A protester lobbed fireworks toward the agents as they left.

Agents could have de-escalated the tension at any point in these developments, but did not. That forces us to ask why—is there a deliberate effort to provoke protestors into acts of violence? We don’t know the answer to that question for certain, but a social media post by the president this morning gave some hint.

Trump threatened to use the “INSURRECTION ACT” due to attacks on “the Patriots of I.C.E., who are only trying to do their job.”

No surprise. We’ve always known he was looking for an excuse to do this. We’ve discussed insurrection act here before. I wrote to you about it back in April, in a piece that also discusses the importance and effectiveness of peaceful protest. “Trump might try to take advantage of minor incidents, or even plants who engage in violence, to impose the Insurrection Act and use the military to put a halt to Americans who are out on the streets exercising their First Amendment rights.”

So as difficult as it may become to show restraint, it’s essential that we don’t take Trump’s bait as we protest. If he’s going to impose the Insurrection Act, as he likely will at some point, we don’t want to give him any cover for it. Each of us can help by sharing this message with those around us and making sure they share it forward.

Here’s what you need to know about the Insurrection Act:

• Normally, the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the military for domestic law enforcement. It explicitly outlaws using the armed forces to enforce the law within our borders, unless that action is expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress.
• Enter the Insurrection Act, which permits a president to deploy the military in American cities and on our streets in very narrow circumstances involving insurrection, rebellion, or extreme civil unrest.
• Even in those circumstances, the military can only be used for “emergency needs” towards the goal of reestablishing civilian control as quickly as possible. This is where lawsuits may come in, especially since governors and local leaders are not only not asking for federal intervention, but in the case of Minnesota, explicitly asking the feds to leave.
• Typically, the Act is only used at a Governor and/or local officials’ request. The exceptions to that are 60 years ago and come from the heart of the civil rights era, when presidents sent troops to states like Mississippi and Alabama to protect people’s lives and liberty, like college students integrating state universities, not sending troops in to traumatize a civilian population trying to peacefully exercise its First Amendment rights.
• But the Act’s language is broad and gives presidents plenty of discretion to, for instance, use the military to arrest American citizens engaged in protest, if a president calls what’s going on an insurrection, rebellion, or civil unrest. And in an 1827 case, Martin v. Mott, the Supreme Court ruled that it is up to the president to decide whether the Insurrection Act should be invoked and that the courts may not review his decision. Although more recently, courts have intimated that a president’s assessment needs to pass the smell test, we should still expect to see them give broad deference to his decisions.

There are reports that federal agents are unrepentant following Good’s death at the hands of one of their number. Minnesotan Patty O’Keefe, an American citizen, was arrested and detained by ICE. While they were transporting her, she says one of the agents said to her, “You’ve gotta stop obstructing us. That’s why that lesbian bitch is dead.”

NBC is reporting that in its rush to hire, ICE is deploying new agents to the field without adequate training. An AI program they were using flagged new hires with no law enforcement experience as trained agents and surged them out to offices. The article says this was the case with “many” of them. The president directed ICE to hire 10,000 new officers by the end of 2025 and offered new recruits $50,000 signing bonuses using money allocated to the agency by Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill.” DHS says those agents have been identified and are receiving training in the field.

It’s not just Minnesota. Geraldo Lunas Campos died at an ICE detention center in El Paso, Texas, on January 3. The Washington Post reports it has listened to a recording of a call between a staffer in the coroner’s office and Mr. Campos’ daughter, where she is told that pending the results of a toxicology report, “our doctor is believing that we’re going to be listing the manner of death as homicide.” At the time of his death, the agency said “staff observed him in distress,” but did not offer a cause of death. The Post reports that “a fellow detainee says he witnessed … Campos being choked to death by guards.” The El Paso facility is described as “a colossal makeshift tent encampment on the Mexican border.” Not only have the people being housed there reported “substandard conditions and physical abuse,” ICE inspectors found over 60 violations of federal standards for detaining migrants in just 50 days dating back to last September.

Editor’s Note: Read the rest of the story, at the below link.

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How an #Ontario #video blew up #USCanada relations, and how we can #deescalate. https://open.substack.com/pub/christophersands1/p/ad-nauseum
#Canada #MarkCarney #DougFord #DonaldTrump #RonaldReaganspeech #tariffs #tradewar #WorldSeries

This has been a difficult few days.

I did not agree with Charlie Kirk on many issues. I consider some of his ideas to be appalling. But I do not hate him. I refuse to hate him. I do not condone his horrific murder and hope all involved are brought to justice. And we are now seeing that violence only begets violence.

I am horrified by the hatred and contempt shown by some of his supporters and his opponents. The disregard for human life and dignity on both sides is alarming.

Something is deeply wrong. Unless all of us work towards deescalation, understanding, and forgiveness, we know where this will end.

As one who considers myself a Christian, I believe and try to follow these teachings of Jesus Christ:

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 5:43-45 KJV)

I implore all of us - Christians or not - to examine our hearts. Can we not find a path toward reconciliation and peace. Are we bold enough to try?

#CharlieKirk #deescalate #nonviolence #peace #uspol #Christian

Protest #3 was good. Getting easier. Was extra brave and inserted myself in between a protestor and someone scream-cussing and goading him. Literally thrust my sign over their car window between them and blocked them from each other until the maga dude drove off and then worked to soothe him a bit.

Had a stress tummy ache for an hour after (cortisol) but worth it!

#Deescalate #BeConstructive
#GoodTrouble
#BeBrave&Gather

#AIConversation: a #conversationwithdeepseek 70b:

Q: what would you say, why did the #Ukraine #conflict escalate and what to do to #deescalate it?
<think>
Okay, so I need to figure out why the Ukraine conflict escalated and how to deescalate it. Hmm, where do I start?

I remember that the conflict has been going on for a while. It started in 2014 with some protests, right? That's when #Crimea was annexed by #Russia. But now it's gotten much worse since
February 2022 because Russia invaded Ukraine more aggressively.

Why did it escalate so much this time? Maybe there are deeper reasons. I think it has to do with historical ties between Russia and Ukraine. They were part of the Soviet Union
together, so there's a lot of shared history, but also some tensions, especially over Ukrainian independence.

Another thing is #NATOexpansion. After the #ColdWar, #NATO started including more Eastern #European countries. #Russia didn't like that because it felt threatened by #military #alliances
getting closer to its #borders. So when #Ukraine considered joining #NATO, maybe #Russia saw that as a direct threat and decided to act.

There's also the issue of pro-Russian #separatists in eastern #Ukraine. Since 2014, they've been fighting against the Ukrainian government, and Russia has supported them. That ongoing
#conflict probably kept tensions high and made things worse over time.

In terms of deescalating, I'm not sure what can be done. Maybe a #ceasefire would help stop the immediate #violence
But how do you get both sides to agree?

They might need some kind of
#mediator or #peacetalks facilitated by other countries or organizations like the #UN.

#Economic #sanctions were imposed on Russia because of their actions, but maybe easing those could be an incentive for deescalation.

Though I'm not sure if that would work without other measures in place.

#Ukraine's #sovereignty is really important here.

They should have the right to make their own decisions about alliances and security without interference from bigger powers like Russia
or NATO.

I think a long-term solution needs to address those underlying issues, maybe through #negotiations where both sides can express their concerns. But it's complicated because there are so
many historical and political factors at play. Plus, you have external actors involved, which might make it harder to reach an agreement.

Overall, it seems like the conflict escalated due to a mix of historical tensions, security concerns, and internal Ukrainian politics.

#Deescalating would require careful diplomacy, possibly involving third parties, to find a compromise that respects Ukraine's sovereignty while addressing #Russia's #fear about #NATOexpansion.

</think>

The Ukraine conflict has deepened due to a complex interplay of historical, political, and security factors. To deescalate, a multifaceted approach is necessary:

1. **Immediate Measures**: Implementing a #ceasefire under international mediation can halt the violence. Organizations like the #UN could facilitate this process.

2. **Diplomatic Engagement**: #Peace talks involving Ukraine, Russia, and mediators are crucial. These should address security concerns, including NATO's expansion and regional
stability.

3. **Economic Incentives**: Easing sanctions on Russia might provide an incentive for deescalation, contingent upon reciprocal actions from Russia.

4. **#Sovereignty #Respect**: Upholding Ukraine's right to #selfdetermination and international relations is essential.

5. **Long-term Solutions**: Negotiations should consider historical ties and political tensions, ensuring a balance between Ukraine's autonomy and regional #security dynamics.

In summary, #deescalation requires careful #diplomacy, addressing both immediate concerns and underlying issues through mediated talks and mutual incentives.

#howto #AI #LLM model #deepseek 70GByte in size have a lot of RAM and fast CPU or GPU:

curl -fsSL https://ollama.com/install.sh | sh
# then
ollama run deepseek-r1:70b

hashtags: #politics #politic #economy #war #worldorder

what is #FuckTheEU (because #EU did not wanted #confrontation with #Russia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

#VictoriaNuland doing currently????

isn't she massively #responsible for the possible #escalation of #war in #Ukraine? (next to #BorisJohnson not wanting to #deescalate

She seem to be hiding somehwere

to be honest can't find anything very useful except some #russia #propaganda

"Victoria Nuland and Ko was left without money for his favorite hobby — color revolutions. Her National Foundation (for the Promotion) of Democracy, being formally a non-governmental organization, was 95% funded from the budget through USAID"

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/03/03/the-breadwinner-of-euromaidan-was-excommunicated-from-the-budget-pushkov

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Victoria_Nuland&df=m&ia=web

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7379 https://www.france24.com/en/20140207-ukraine-usa-eu-nuland-leaked-audio

https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/03/05/1114794.html <- this a good #source don't know

#Religious #groups are #protecting #Pride #events — upending the #LGBTQVsFaith #narrative.

More than 120 #faith groups will fan out across 50 #Pride #events this June to #deescalate #extremist #antiLGBTQ+ #protests from #hategroups.

#Women #Transgender #LGBTQ #Allies #Spirituality #Religion #LGBTQIA #Pride #PrideMonth #Representation #Culture

https://19thnews.org/2024/06/religious-groups-protecting-pride-lgbtq-events/

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/urgent-tell-congress-to-stop-fueling-violence/?sourceid=1002378 #Israel #Gaza #Deescalate

#reallifestories

Want to end a #streetfight of #two #teenager #groups as #swiftly as #possible (this #advice might not apply to #usa )

if possible #contact #other #people #before #stepping in

Purchase a #doener steps inside the #confrontation #eat your #doener #sandwich as #calm as #possible

#watch the #amazed #crowds #looks and #questions #unfolding

"is this a doener in your hand"

#chuckle insyde put a #pokerface on and calmly #deescalate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJeSJhb3Hc4