#nivenly — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #nivenly, aggregated by home.social.
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https://social.firesidefedi.live/@firesidefedi/statuses/01JVVZ3K95XSZZ3BTQ65MPPY9Q
That's me! Come join us tomorrow, 4pm CEST / 10a ET, at https://stream.firesidefedi.live/, send questions here, or to @firesidefedi
#pachli #nivenly #livestream #podcast #androiddev #fediverse
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https://social.firesidefedi.live/@firesidefedi/statuses/01JVVZ3K95XSZZ3BTQ65MPPY9Q
That's me! Come join us tomorrow, 4pm CEST / 10a ET, at https://stream.firesidefedi.live/, send questions here, or to @firesidefedi
#pachli #nivenly #livestream #podcast #androiddev #fediverse
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I hope everyone is having a wonderful day!
Tomorrow, May 23rd at 1000 Eastern / UTC-4, we are going to be speaking with @nikclayton with the @pachli project.
If you're not familiar with #Pachli it's a best-in-class #Android #client for #Mastodon .
Pachli is also a part of the @nivenly #foundation , who support and endorse open projects.
If you're not familiar with Pachli or #nivenlyfoundation you might be familiar with @hachyderm which is also a member of #nivenly !
So an absolutely amazing group of individuals!
As usual if you have any questions or friendly comments for Nik about Pachli or anything, please don't hesitate to toot @ me and we'll see if we can get them answered!
Watch the show live:
#Owncast #Livestream - https://stream.firesidefedi.live
After the show:
#Peertube #VOD - https://video.firesidefedi.live
#Castopod #Fedicast - https://audio.firesidefedi.live
All #Links - https://firesidefedi.live
#stream #owncast #live #interview #firesideFedi #FsF #people #peopleOverPlatforms #protocolsOverPlatforms #fedi #fediverse #open #internet #openInternet #podcast #fedicast #livestream #show #episode #peertube #vod #castopod #writefreely #lemmy #boostplease -
I hope everyone is having a wonderful day!
Tomorrow, May 23rd at 1000 Eastern / UTC-4, we are going to be speaking with @nikclayton with the @pachli project.
If you're not familiar with #Pachli it's a best-in-class #Android #client for #Mastodon .
Pachli is also a part of the @nivenly #foundation , who support and endorse open projects.
If you're not familiar with Pachli or #nivenlyfoundation you might be familiar with @hachyderm which is also a member of #nivenly !
So an absolutely amazing group of individuals!
As usual if you have any questions or friendly comments for Nik about Pachli or anything, please don't hesitate to toot @ me and we'll see if we can get them answered!
Watch the show live:
#Owncast #Livestream - https://stream.firesidefedi.live
After the show:
#Peertube #VOD - https://video.firesidefedi.live
#Castopod #Fedicast - https://audio.firesidefedi.live
All #Links - https://firesidefedi.live
#stream #owncast #live #interview #firesideFedi #FsF #people #peopleOverPlatforms #protocolsOverPlatforms #fedi #fediverse #open #internet #openInternet #podcast #fedicast #livestream #show #episode #peertube #vod #castopod #writefreely #lemmy #boostplease -
After I make this post, as announced yesterday, I am defederating #hachyderm over #nivenly (their parent company) endorsing transphobic death threats against me, using the name of their deceased transgender founder to disparge me. Details here: https://fedi.aria.dog/notice/AstMFfVyR64yThXUlU
I will continue to make noise and raise awareness about their values, but I have no need to stay federated to do it efficiently.
This will only affect a very small amount of people. You are not welcome in my home.
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CW: Meta: References about anti-transgender abuse, fediverse gentrification. Death threats, CSA, every warning.
I joined the Fediverse in 2018, but only became highly active in 2023.
The state of the transgender community was some terminally diseased bullshit: you could disrupt federation by throwing the name of any trans girl you dislike to #Fediblock with nothing more than accusations of social adjacency to the wrong people. Destroy hundreds of connections over trumped-up charges. Many of my dear friends are no longer on the network because of this.I found the network split into two hermetic clusters i like to call Tech Mastodon and Queer Fedi. The first is barely aware of the second, eager to gentrify it, and to speak over us.
I have written about these topics at length, and taken action about them.
I wrote an article that focuses on a nonprofit named #IFTAS, due to their penchant for enabling abuse against us - this is a very long article, and the next links are more summarized:
https://aria.dog/barks/ethics-in-transgenderism/Once I learned the #FediForum virtual conference was co-organized by a transphobe, me and friends dug up all the receipts in time, before they were concealed. I delivered an uninvited counter-talk, which is a good summary of our dysfunctional social dynamics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy5O2LjeuDY
You might prefer to read this transcript: https://aria.dog/barks/mastodon-trust-and-safety-at-the-terf-conference/
The transcript also contains a section about death threats I received about this video, which US nonprofit companies i criticized multiple times, #Nivenly and #IFTAS, decided not to take action about, despite platforming the person who made those threats. IFTAS, in particular, had a previous history of transphobic death threats from its staff, and tried to conceal the evidence. Meanwhile, Nivenly used the name of a dead trans woman to deflect accountability, then said the death threats didn’t happen.
In the aftermath of death threats made towards me (as if i was the right person to target for that), I addressed those companies directly - Nivenly even trying to weaponize the name of a dead trans woman against me. The queer community didn’t buy it: https://fedi.aria.dog/notice/AstMFfVyR64yThXUlU
So long as death threats are in play, i have no inclination to be civil: my community’s penchant for civility is the reason we are easy to speak over.
Do not follow me to keep up with those topics, try @fedilore instead. Me, i just pop out of random wells to chastise you, without warning, and will try to keep my activity mostly away from this account.
BTW: Queers always keep receipts, and we’ll be gay much longer than gentrifiers will be solvent.
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This is a program that I've been championing within @nivenly over the past year, after we noticed that security vulnerabilities weren't being disclosed responsibly, and not enough research was going into the security of Fediverse software.
You might remember my Pixelfed vulnerability from last year, where OAuth scopes weren't checked allowing for privilege escalation via the API (CVE-2024-25108), that was our very first test-case of this program.
I'm incredibly proud to be involved in launching the Fediverse Security Fund from Nivenly Foundation (a 501(c)4 not-for-profit cooperative)
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This is a program that I've been championing within @nivenly over the past year, after we noticed that security vulnerabilities weren't being disclosed responsibly, and not enough research was going into the security of Fediverse software.
You might remember my Pixelfed vulnerability from last year, where OAuth scopes weren't checked allowing for privilege escalation via the API (CVE-2024-25108), that was our very first test-case of this program.
I'm incredibly proud to be involved in launching the Fediverse Security Fund from Nivenly Foundation (a 501(c)4 not-for-profit cooperative)
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The website also needed an update to reflect #Pachli's new state as a #Nivenly Foundation project.
As well as some cosmetic updates https://pachli.app/pachli/2024/07/02/more-on-nivenly.html explains how to become a member, and https://pachli.app/about/ goes into more detail about ways of contributing to Pachli.
These are companion pieces to https://nivenly.org/blog/2024/07/01/pachli-introduction/.
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The website also needed an update to reflect #Pachli's new state as a #Nivenly Foundation project.
As well as some cosmetic updates https://pachli.app/pachli/2024/07/02/more-on-nivenly.html explains how to become a member, and https://pachli.app/about/ goes into more detail about ways of contributing to Pachli.
These are companion pieces to https://nivenly.org/blog/2024/07/01/pachli-introduction/.
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#Nivenly withdraws support for open source torment nexus 👏 https://hachyderm.io/@nivenly/112384063597517427
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#Nivenly withdraws support for open source torment nexus 👏 https://hachyderm.io/@nivenly/112384063597517427
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The good part is that my recognized value with my #FOSS work, finally has hardened enough within me, that it keeps the self-doubt away. So when I get rejected from giving a conference talk about AI (as is what happened with #fosdem2024 ) or having my right to belong to something like #Nivenly constantly challenged, I can remind, nay, *prove* to myself that I am actually worth it, but the system has always been rigged against neurodivergent people from the start.
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The good part is that my recognized value with my #FOSS work, finally has hardened enough within me, that it keeps the self-doubt away. So when I get rejected from giving a conference talk about AI (as is what happened with #fosdem2024 ) or having my right to belong to something like #Nivenly constantly challenged, I can remind, nay, *prove* to myself that I am actually worth it, but the system has always been rigged against neurodivergent people from the start.
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I do really want to thank @nivenly (and especially @esk) for sponsoring the work to fix the critical security vulnerability found in @pixelfed earlier in February:
https://hachyderm.io/@thisismissem/112022457133862143
Nivenly stepped up, even though they don't have a stake in Pixelfed, they just wanted to see the Fediverse be safer, more secure and all that.
Without their support, I wouldn't have been able to dedicate the time to handling that (since I'm a freelancer)
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I do really want to thank @nivenly (and especially @esk) for sponsoring the work to fix the critical security vulnerability found in @pixelfed earlier in February:
https://hachyderm.io/@thisismissem/112022457133862143
Nivenly stepped up, even though they don't have a stake in Pixelfed, they just wanted to see the Fediverse be safer, more secure and all that.
Without their support, I wouldn't have been able to dedicate the time to handling that (since I'm a freelancer)
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and the first vote for @nivenly members is up -> https://hachyderm.io/@nivenly/112019849759608434.
we plan on announcing the "nivenly fedi security fund experiment" later this weekend. preview: pay finders/contributors who find/close high/critical bugs in fedi software. we did a mini proof of concept and sponsored @thisismissem to ship a fix for a critical 9.9 score vulnerability in pixelfed, and now we're ready to expand a bit. more soon!
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and the first vote for @nivenly members is up -> https://hachyderm.io/@nivenly/112019849759608434.
we plan on announcing the "nivenly fedi security fund experiment" later this weekend. preview: pay finders/contributors who find/close high/critical bugs in fedi software. we did a mini proof of concept and sponsored @thisismissem to ship a fix for a critical 9.9 score vulnerability in pixelfed, and now we're ready to expand a bit. more soon!
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@ExecGoofy
This started with a post that, to me, has the effect of paiting those people critical of this suss-as-fuck AI shit that Nivenly is involved in as those critics being "[kinda racist]".The nRx / Dark Enlightenment tell feels like it's getting more obvious, FYI. My paranoia is still waning from gibbous, though.
I have no interest in wading into "prolix and verbose" discussions on this, like it feels you're doing now.
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I mean just to start with calling #nivenly an "AI Art Foundation" is like saying that the ASF is a "blockchain foundation" because they are incubating https://incubator.apache.org/projects/resilientdb.html, except that the relationship between Apache and ResilientDB is actually stronger than the relationship between Nivenly and Haidra.
This blog thing is telling me a lot about some people in how they react and what they decide to focus on, but it isn't telling me anything even… coherent about Nivenly.
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I mean just to start with calling #nivenly an "AI Art Foundation" is like saying that the ASF is a "blockchain foundation" because they are incubating https://incubator.apache.org/projects/resilientdb.html, except that the relationship between Apache and ResilientDB is actually stronger than the relationship between Nivenly and Haidra.
This blog thing is telling me a lot about some people in how they react and what they decide to focus on, but it isn't telling me anything even… coherent about Nivenly.
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I have started a conversation on the @nivenly Community Boards ( https://github.com/nivenly/community/discussions/4 ) about #FSEP and #TheBadSpace, starting with my own breakdown of the doc.
Insights, considerations, and further discussion welcome!
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I have started a conversation on the @nivenly Community Boards ( https://github.com/nivenly/community/discussions/4 ) about #FSEP and #TheBadSpace, starting with my own breakdown of the doc.
Insights, considerations, and further discussion welcome!
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We passed $2700 today for #translifeline in memory of @nova. Thank you all so much for your generosity and support. It means the world to me & you're helping an incredible cause. The fundraiser will remain open through the end of September. Please continue to give if you can & spread the word to everyone you know. ❤️
Donate here: https://twitch.tv/charity/zunderscore
#charity #fundraiser #donate #trans #transgender #transrightsarehumanrights #translivesmatter #hachyderm #nivenly #nivenlyfoundation
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We passed $2700 today for #translifeline in memory of @nova. Thank you all so much for your generosity and support. It means the world to me & you're helping an incredible cause. The fundraiser will remain open through the end of September. Please continue to give if you can & spread the word to everyone you know. ❤️
Donate here: https://twitch.tv/charity/zunderscore
#charity #fundraiser #donate #trans #transgender #transrightsarehumanrights #translivesmatter #hachyderm #nivenly #nivenlyfoundation
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Just over a week and y'all have raised over $2600 for Trans Lifeline in memory of @nova. Let's try to hit $3000 for this wonderful cause today! ❤️
Please share! And if you can, please give. Together, we can continue doing amazing things. ❤️
Donate here: https://twitch.tv/charity/zunderscore
#charity #fundraiser #donate #trans #transgender #translifeline #transrightsarehumanrights #translivesmatter #hachyderm #nivenly #nivenlyfoundation
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Just over a week and y'all have raised over $2600 for Trans Lifeline in memory of @nova. Let's try to hit $3000 for this wonderful cause today! ❤️
Please share! And if you can, please give. Together, we can continue doing amazing things. ❤️
Donate here: https://twitch.tv/charity/zunderscore
#charity #fundraiser #donate #trans #transgender #translifeline #transrightsarehumanrights #translivesmatter #hachyderm #nivenly #nivenlyfoundation
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CW: CW: Someone well known in this community has died.
Sad news today.
#OpenSource / #FreeSoftware #activist, #writer, #programmer, and #streamer, #KrisNova, founder of #Hachyderm and #Nivenly, died in a rock climbing accident last Wednesday evening.
@nova's presence in the OpenSource community will be missed.
https://nivenly.org/blog/2023/08/19/an-announcement-regarding-kris-n%C3%B3va/
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CW: CW: Someone well known in this community has died.
Sad news today.
#OpenSource / #FreeSoftware #activist, #writer, #programmer, and #streamer, #KrisNova, founder of #Hachyderm and #Nivenly, died in a rock climbing accident last Wednesday evening.
@nova's presence in the OpenSource community will be missed.
https://nivenly.org/blog/2023/08/19/an-announcement-regarding-kris-n%C3%B3va/
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1. That's not what a supercomputer is.
2. The audience of #nivenly is highly technical already, we know what distributed workload clusters are.
3. If someone didn't know and is being assumed to not know, then the choice of references here is fascinating. Not "value neutral" items, but specifically public good projects in the domain of scientific exploration and research.
I don't think this part is deliberately manipulative, but it _is_ manipulative of the audience perception.
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1. That's not what a supercomputer is.
2. The audience of #nivenly is highly technical already, we know what distributed workload clusters are.
3. If someone didn't know and is being assumed to not know, then the choice of references here is fascinating. Not "value neutral" items, but specifically public good projects in the domain of scientific exploration and research.
I don't think this part is deliberately manipulative, but it _is_ manipulative of the audience perception.
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Specifically, I am of the view that if they are accepted then #nivenly will become complicit in the behavior of #AiHordeDotNet.
I _don't_ think that the Nivenly board sees it that way, but as an engineer _I_ would. I could draw a line between "us" and "them" if .net was run by someone who was not a lead maintainer on #Haidra
This would not be as big of deal, except that I feel like there's a bit of a shell game going on when it comes to responsibility, and that's part of my core objection
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Specifically, I am of the view that if they are accepted then #nivenly will become complicit in the behavior of #AiHordeDotNet.
I _don't_ think that the Nivenly board sees it that way, but as an engineer _I_ would. I could draw a line between "us" and "them" if .net was run by someone who was not a lead maintainer on #Haidra
This would not be as big of deal, except that I feel like there's a bit of a shell game going on when it comes to responsibility, and that's part of my core objection
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Being neurodivergent has _nothing_ to do with it. At all.
The maintainer responded poorly to multiple people who they have not apologized to, but rather made a blanket post in a different medium. This evades responsibility.
This makes the apology feel less than genuine
From a learning perspective I could treat this as a calling in moment and a matter of coaching, but in whether to select a project for #Nivenly—and their maintainers for the senate—I would like to see that learned _first_
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Being neurodivergent has _nothing_ to do with it. At all.
The maintainer responded poorly to multiple people who they have not apologized to, but rather made a blanket post in a different medium. This evades responsibility.
This makes the apology feel less than genuine
From a learning perspective I could treat this as a calling in moment and a matter of coaching, but in whether to select a project for #Nivenly—and their maintainers for the senate—I would like to see that learned _first_
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CW: AI, Nivenly, Haidra, StableDiffiusion
@[email protected] @[email protected] the parent post has links to a great case-study-in-progress of community governance; and @[email protected] and @[email protected] this ties in with the discussion here as well.
Some of the things to look for, based on the experiences I noted with some of other community governance efforts ... thinking about these up front could lead to a more inclusive and effective discussion, and once it's done looking at them in retrospective could be another good data point for what does and doesn't work.
-- @[email protected]'s #TertuliaExtraordinaria discussion (collected here in a single document) is a great example of a fediverse governance-related discussion conducted in a way that lets multiple voices be heard (as opposed to privileging those with the largest platform). What if any mechanisms will be used here, both in the broad initial discussion and then the next phase of the general membership discussion?
-- In the social.coop and cosocial discussions, BIPOC and transvoices were almost completely absent. Will there be a similar dynamic here #nivenly discussion? [To be clear, I'm talking both about who participates and whether cis white participants elevante the voices of non-participating BIPOC and trans people.]. And the parent post discusses another "who's at the table" question that could crop up here:
"For example Nivenly is tech- and open-source focused. How well represented will artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians -- the people who tools like #Haidra exploit -- be in the discussions and voting?"
-- Mastodon doesn't have no way of getting notified about replies to a post that _don't_ mention you; it's functionality that's been requested multiple times, dating back to 2018 if not earlier. Github discussions are better on this front; and unlike vanilla Mastodon they allow formatting via Markdown. So on the one hand it's a more useful platform for people who are used to Github -- which, given Nivenly's techie and open-source focus, presumably includes all the board and paying members, and quite possibly most of the people who have accounts on @[email protected]. At the same time though @[email protected]'s has some good points about the lack of inclusivity of using github.
Of course Nivenly's also encouraging discussions on the fediverse and in their Discord chat, and offering an email option for people to submit questions ... that's good: people without github accounts aren't excluded from the conversation. Still, the structure certainly favors people who do have github accounts. In particular, techies (who as a class, and in some cases as individuals, are more likely to profit from normalizing exploitative AI governance) are more likely to have github accounts than artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians (who as a class and as individuals are the ones who are exploited), so this could accentuate the potential "who's at the table" problem.
-- as @[email protected] mentions in the post, it's not clear what mechanism to use for voting. is there a way to use existing affordances to address this? If not could some straightforward improvements help?
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CW: AI, Nivenly, Haidra, StableDiffiusion
@[email protected] @[email protected] the parent post has links to a great case-study-in-progress of community governance; and @[email protected] and @[email protected] this ties in with the discussion here as well.
Some of the things to look for, based on the experiences I noted with some of other community governance efforts ... thinking about these up front could lead to a more inclusive and effective discussion, and once it's done looking at them in retrospective could be another good data point for what does and doesn't work.
-- @[email protected]'s #TertuliaExtraordinaria discussion (collected here in a single document) is a great example of a fediverse governance-related discussion conducted in a way that lets multiple voices be heard (as opposed to privileging those with the largest platform). What if any mechanisms will be used here, both in the broad initial discussion and then the next phase of the general membership discussion?
-- In the social.coop and cosocial discussions, BIPOC and transvoices were almost completely absent. Will there be a similar dynamic here #nivenly discussion? [To be clear, I'm talking both about who participates and whether cis white participants elevante the voices of non-participating BIPOC and trans people.]. And the parent post discusses another "who's at the table" question that could crop up here:
"For example Nivenly is tech- and open-source focused. How well represented will artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians -- the people who tools like #Haidra exploit -- be in the discussions and voting?"
-- Mastodon doesn't have no way of getting notified about replies to a post that _don't_ mention you; it's functionality that's been requested multiple times, dating back to 2018 if not earlier. Github discussions are better on this front; and unlike vanilla Mastodon they allow formatting via Markdown. So on the one hand it's a more useful platform for people who are used to Github -- which, given Nivenly's techie and open-source focus, presumably includes all the board and paying members, and quite possibly most of the people who have accounts on @[email protected]. At the same time though @[email protected]'s has some good points about the lack of inclusivity of using github.
Of course Nivenly's also encouraging discussions on the fediverse and in their Discord chat, and offering an email option for people to submit questions ... that's good: people without github accounts aren't excluded from the conversation. Still, the structure certainly favors people who do have github accounts. In particular, techies (who as a class, and in some cases as individuals, are more likely to profit from normalizing exploitative AI governance) are more likely to have github accounts than artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians (who as a class and as individuals are the ones who are exploited), so this could accentuate the potential "who's at the table" problem.
-- as @[email protected] mentions in the post, it's not clear what mechanism to use for voting. is there a way to use existing affordances to address this? If not could some straightforward improvements help?
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CW: AI, Nivenly, Haidra, StableDiffiusion
Nivenly, the cooperative that runs hachyderm.io, is having a community discussion and vote on what to do about Haidra and AIHorde, a distributed generative AI system.
@quintessence's Our First Community Discussion and Vote: Haidra has a summary and information about next steps. @Db0's The Birth of Haidra and the Join With Nivenly has background.
The discussion's open to all but voting is restricted to members They're also tracking discussion on social media in the Discord chatrooms but ask that official questions be submitted via Github discussions or email to [email protected]. They're gathering questions between now 8 Aug 2023, and will be. posting followup blog pots, followed by a general member discussion from August 14 - 25 August 2023 and an "election" after -- specific mechanism TBD,
Eligible voters including project members, trade members, and general members who pay $7/month). Something that's always interesting to watch in situations like this who's at the table. For example Nivenly is tech- and open-source focused. How well represented will artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians -- the people who tools like Haidra exploit -- be in the discussions and voting? What happens if somebody used #AIHorde ("a crowdsourced distributed cluster of Image generation workers and text generation workers") to generate fake avatars and profiles, sign up 1000 new accounts and voted to ban these exploitative tools?
Here's an excellent thread from @hrefna with some initial thoughts and questions https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/110833561126744694). The "ACM" references in the thread are to the ACM Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct at https://ethics.acm.org/
Nivenly's discussion potentially affects cross-intance communication as well, and is a good chance to think about AI-related issues in general. In the Github discussion, for example, somebody brought up a question about whether posts and images that federate to hachyderm (or another nivenly-run instance) would be used to train future AIs. With Haidra, based on the discussion so far, the answer appears to be no; but this isn't the only situation where there's a risk of using federated data without consent to train AIs. What kind of ground rules do other instances want to have, and do we need to have conventions such as extending the nodeinfo structure (which gives basic data about every fediveres instance) to include information about whether or not an instance is using data for AI training?
So it's certainly a discussion worth tracking -- and participating in, if you're interested.
EDIT: A response in the github discussion describes why data federating to Hachyderm isn't being used to train Haidra's models, so I updated the text above to make that clear. It's still a good example of how this conversation highlights more general issues. If other instances using images and text they receive to train AI models, should they have to disclose it?
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CW: AI, Nivenly, Haidra, StableDiffiusion
Nivenly, the cooperative that runs hachyderm.io, is having a community discussion and vote on what to do about Haidra and AIHorde, a distributed generative AI system.
@quintessence's Our First Community Discussion and Vote: Haidra has a summary and information about next steps. @Db0's The Birth of Haidra and the Join With Nivenly has background.
The discussion's open to all but voting is restricted to members They're also tracking discussion on social media in the Discord chatrooms but ask that official questions be submitted via Github discussions or email to [email protected]. They're gathering questions between now 8 Aug 2023, and will be. posting followup blog pots, followed by a general member discussion from August 14 - 25 August 2023 and an "election" after -- specific mechanism TBD,
Eligible voters including project members, trade members, and general members who pay $7/month). Something that's always interesting to watch in situations like this who's at the table. For example Nivenly is tech- and open-source focused. How well represented will artists, photographers, writers, actors, and musicians -- the people who tools like Haidra exploit -- be in the discussions and voting? What happens if somebody used #AIHorde ("a crowdsourced distributed cluster of Image generation workers and text generation workers") to generate fake avatars and profiles, sign up 1000 new accounts and voted to ban these exploitative tools?
Here's an excellent thread from @hrefna with some initial thoughts and questions https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/110833561126744694). The "ACM" references in the thread are to the ACM Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct at https://ethics.acm.org/
Nivenly's discussion potentially affects cross-intance communication as well, and is a good chance to think about AI-related issues in general. In the Github discussion, for example, somebody brought up a question about whether posts and images that federate to hachyderm (or another nivenly-run instance) would be used to train future AIs. With Haidra, based on the discussion so far, the answer appears to be no; but this isn't the only situation where there's a risk of using federated data without consent to train AIs. What kind of ground rules do other instances want to have, and do we need to have conventions such as extending the nodeinfo structure (which gives basic data about every fediveres instance) to include information about whether or not an instance is using data for AI training?
So it's certainly a discussion worth tracking -- and participating in, if you're interested.
EDIT: A response in the github discussion describes why data federating to Hachyderm isn't being used to train Haidra's models, so I updated the text above to make that clear. It's still a good example of how this conversation highlights more general issues. If other instances using images and text they receive to train AI models, should they have to disclose it?
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A thread around #haidra #stableHorde and #nivenly 's sponsorship has started on nivenly's community forum:
https://github.com/nivenly/community/discussions/2
It is well researched and is a good read on its own (thx @SnoopJ).
People who follow me know that I am into generative AI, but my three strongest criticism are about data-sourcing ethics, solid user education (especially around LLMs) and building tools that centers users.
We have the opportunity to do better as an opensource community!
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A thread around #haidra #stableHorde and #nivenly 's sponsorship has started on nivenly's community forum:
https://github.com/nivenly/community/discussions/2
It is well researched and is a good read on its own (thx @SnoopJ).
People who follow me know that I am into generative AI, but my three strongest criticism are about data-sourcing ethics, solid user education (especially around LLMs) and building tools that centers users.
We have the opportunity to do better as an opensource community!
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I was hoping Haidra joining the #Nivenly Foundation would be a cause of celebration for open commons and FOSS enthusiasts. Instead the Anti-GenerativeAI crowd have taken over the replies with the most uncharitable takes possible and are openly calling me a thief and a liar.
Good times...
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I was hoping Haidra joining the #Nivenly Foundation would be a cause of celebration for open commons and FOSS enthusiasts. Instead the Anti-GenerativeAI crowd have taken over the replies with the most uncharitable takes possible and are openly calling me a thief and a liar.
Good times...
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@nova Finally watched the FOSDEM talk on #hachyderm and #nivenly. I really enjoyed hearing the details of the November growth spurt and all the context behind that, thanks so much for sharing! You made a call to action to the community to talk about democratic governance. Where is the best place to be involved in working with the community on that?
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Friendly reminder to be careful with #Paypal's exchange rates.
A $50 donation (to @nova for #Hachyderm and #Nivenly) would have been 49,47€ at Paypal's exchange rate. Using my creditcard issuer’s exchange rate, it was only 47,12€.
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Friendly reminder to be careful with #Paypal's exchange rates.
A $50 donation (to @nova for #Hachyderm and #Nivenly) would have been 49,47€ at Paypal's exchange rate. Using my creditcard issuer’s exchange rate, it was only 47,12€.