#marc-andreesen — Public Fediverse posts
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“Don’t eat your seed corn”*…
AI doesn’t really “think.” Rather, it remembers how we thought together. Are we’re about to stop giving it anything worth remembering? Bright Simons with a provocative analysis…
We are on the verge of the age of human redundancy. In 2023, IBM’s chief executive told Bloomberg that soon some 7,800 roles might be replaced by AI. The following year, Duolingo cut a tenth of its contractor workforce; it needed to free up desks for AI. Atlassian followed. Klarna announced that its AI assistant was performing work equivalent to 700 customer-service employees and that reducing the size of its workforce to under 2000 is now its North Star. And Jack Dorsey has been forthright about wanting to hold Block’s headcount flat while AI shoulders the growth.
The trajectory has a compelling internal logic. Routine cognitive work gets automated; junior roles thin out; productivity gains compound year on year. For boards reviewing cost structures, it is the cleanest investment proposition since the internal combustion engine retired the horse, topped up with a kind of moral momentum. Hesitate, the thinking goes, and fall behind.
But the research results of a team in the UK should give us pause. In the spring of 2024, they asked around 300 writers to produce short fiction. Some were aided by GPT-4 and others worked alone. Which stories, the researchers wanted to know, would be more creative? On average, the writers with AI help produced stories that independent judges rated as more creative than those written without it.
So far, so on message: a familiar story about the inevitable takeover by intelligent machines. But when the researchers examined the full body of stories rather than individual ones, the picture became murky. The AI-assisted stories were more similar to each other. Each writer had been individually elevated; collectively, they had converged. Anil R Doshi and Oliver Hauser, who published the study in Science Advances, reached for a phrase from ecology to explain this: a tragedy of the commons.
Hold that result in mind: individual gain, collective loss. It describes something far more consequential than a writing experiment—it describes the hidden logic of our entire relationship with artificial intelligence. And it suggests that the most successful organizations of the coming decade will be the ones that do something profoundly counterintuitive: instead of using AI to eliminate human interaction by firing droves of workers, they will use it to create more human interaction. IBM has reversed course on its earlier human redundancy fantasies. I bet more will in due course…
[Simons sketches the history of humans’ intertwined development of both social/organizational and utile technologies, concluding…]
… What the chain reveals is a dependency the AI industry has largely declined to examine. The underlying intelligence of a large language model isn’t a function of its architecture, its parameter count, or the volume of compute thrown at its training. It is not even about the training data. It is a function of the social complexity of the civilization whose language it digested.
Each epoch advanced the cognitive frontier through something far richer and more complex than the isolated genius of an individual guru or machine. It did so through new forms of collective problem-solving. Think new institutions (the Greek agora, the Roman lex, the medieval university, the scientific society, the modern corporation, and the social internet) that demanded and rewarded ever more sophisticated uses of language.
The cognitive anthropologist Edwin Hutchins studied how Navy navigation teams actually think. In his 1995 book Cognition in the Wild, he wrote something that reads today like an accidental prophecy. The physical symbol system, he observed, is “a model of the operation of the sociocultural system from which the human actor has been removed.”
That is, with eerie precision, a description of what a large language model (LLM) really is, stripped of all the unapproachable jargon and mathematical wizardry. An LLM like ChatGPT is a model of human social reasoning with the human wrangled out. And the question nobody in Silicon Valley is asking with sufficient urgency is: What happens to the model when the social reasoning that produced its training data begins to thin?…
[Simons explores evidence that this may already be materially underway, then explores what that “atrophy” might mean …]
… If AI capability depends on the social complexity of human language production—and if AI deployment systematically reduces that complexity through cognitive offloading, homogenization of creative output, and the elimination of interaction-dense work—then the technology is gradually undermining the conditions for its own advancement. Its successes, rather than failures, create a spiral: a slow attenuation of the very substrate it feeds on, spelling doom.
This is the Social Edge Paradox, and the intellectual tradition it draws from is older and more interdisciplinary than most AI commentary acknowledges…
[Simons unpacks that heritage, and puts it into dialogues with recent thoughts from Dario Amodei, Leopold Aschenbrenner, and Sam Altman, concluding…]
… The Social Edge Framework outlined here is a direct counterpoint to Amodei, Aschenbrenner, and Altman. It is a program of action to counter the human redundancy fantasy. It challenges the self-fulfilling doom-spirals created by the premature reallocation of material resources to a vision of AI. I speak of the philosophy that underestimates the sheer amount of human priming needed to support the Great Recode of legacy infrastructure before our current civilization can even benefit substantially from AI advances.
By “Great Recode,” I am paying homage to the simple but widely ignored fact that the overwhelming number of tools and services that advanced AI models still need to produce useful outputs for users are not themselves AI-like and most were built before the high-intensity computing era began with AI. In the unsexy but critical field of PDF parsing—one of the ways in which AI consumes large amounts of historical data to get smart—studies show that only a very small proportion of tools were created using techniques like deep learning that characterize the AI age. And in some important cases, the older tools remain indispensable. Vast investments are thus required to upgrade all or most of these tools—from PDF parsers to database schemas—to align with the pace of high-intensity computing driven by the power-thirst of AI. Yet, we are not at the point where AI can simply create its own dependencies.
Indeed, the so-called “legacy tech debt” supposedly hampering the faster adoption of AI has in many instances been revealed as a problem of mediation and translation. AI companies are learning that they need to hire people who deeply understand legacy systems to guide this Recoding effort. A whole new “digital archaeology” field is emerging where cutting-edge tools like ArgonSense are deployed to try to excavate the latent intelligence in legacy systems and code often after rushed modernization efforts have failed. In many cases, swashbuckling new-age AI adventurers have found that mainframe specialists of a bygone age remain critical, and multidisciplinary dialogues and contentions are essential to progress on the frontier. Hence the strange phenomenon of the COBOL hiring boom. New knowledge must keep feeding on old.
The Social Edge Framework says: yes, scaling matters, architecture matters, and compute matters. But none of these will continue to deliver if the social substrate—the complex, argumentative, institutionally diverse, perspectivally rich fabric of human interaction—is allowed to thin. And thinning is very possible…
… The Social Edge prescription is that organizations that hire more people to work in AI-enriched, high-interaction, and transmediary roles—where AI scaffolds learning rather than substituting it—will derive greater long-term advantage than those that treat the technology as a headcount-reduction device. In a world where raw cognitive throughput has been commodified, the value arc shifts to something considerably harder to replicate: the capacity to coordinate human intent with precision, speed, and genuine depth. That edge lies in trans-mediation and high human interactionism.
The AI industry is telling a story about the future of work that goes roughly like this: automate what can be automated, augment what remains, and trust that the productivity gains will compound into a wealthier, more efficient world.
The Social Edge Framework tells a different story. It says: the intelligence we are automating was never ours alone. It was forged in conversation, argument, institutional friction, and collaborative struggle. It lives in the spaces between people, and it shows up in AI capabilities only because those spaces were rich enough to leave linguistic traces worth learning from.
Every time a company automates an entry-level role, it saves a salary and loses a learning curve, unless it compensates. Every time a knowledge worker delegates a draft to an AI without engaging critically, the statistical thinning of the organizational record advances by an imperceptible increment. Every time an organization mistakes polished output for strategic progress, it consumes cognitive surplus without generating new knowledge.
None of these individual acts is catastrophic. However, their compound effect may be.
The organizations that will thrive in the next decade are not those with the highest AI utilization rates. They are those that understand something the epoch-chaining thought experiment makes vivid: that AI’s capabilities are an inheritance from the complexity of human social life. And inheritances, if consumed without reinvestment, eventually run out. This is particularly critical as AI becomes heavily customized for our organizational culture.
Making the right strategic choices about AI is going to become a defining trait in leadership. Bloom et al. cross-country research has long established that management quality explains a substantial share of productivity variance between teams and organizations, and even countries.
In the AI age, small differences in leadership quality can generate large differences in outcomes—a non-linear payoff I call convex leadership. The term is borrowed from options mathematics, where a convex payoff is one whose upside accelerates faster than the downside decelerates. Convex leaders convert cognitive abundance into structural ambition and thus avoid turning their creative and discovery pipelines into stagnant pools of polished busywork. Conversely, in organizations led by what we might call concave leaders—cautious, procedurally anchored, optimizing for error-avoidance—AI would tend to produce more noise than signal. Because leadership is such a major shaper of all our lives, it is in our interest to pay serious attention to its evolution in this new age.
The Social Edge is more than a metaphor. It is the literal boundary between what AI can do well and what it will keep struggling with due to fundamental internal contradictions. Furthermore, the framework asks us all to pay attention to how the very investment thesis behind AI also contains the seeds of its own failure. And it reminds leaders that AI’s frontier today is set by the richness of the social world that produced the data it learned from…
Eminently worth reading in full: “The Social Edge of Intelligence.”
Consider also the complementary perspectives in “What will be scarce?,” from Alex Imas (via Tim O’Reilly/ @timoreilly.bsky.social)… and in the second piece featured last Monday: ““Curiosity Is No Solo Act.“
Apposite: “Some Unintended Consequences Of AI,” from Quentin Hardy.
And finally, from the estimable Nathan Gardels, a suggestion that Open AI’s recent paper on industrial policy for the Age of AI fills a vacuum left by an unimaginative political class and should be taken seriously, at least as a conversation starter: “OpenAI Proposes A ‘Social Contract’ For The Intelligence Age.”
* Old agricultural proverb
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As we take the long view, we might recall that today is the anniverary of a techological advance that both fed the social edge and encouraged the build out of the technostructure from which today’s AI hatched: on this date in 1993 Version 1.0 of the web browser Mosaic was released by the National Center for Supercomputing Applications. It was the first software to provide a graphical user interface for the emerging World Wide Web, including the ability to display inline graphics.
The lead Mosaic developer was Marc Andreesen, one of the future founders of Netscape, and now a principal at the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz (AKA “a16z”)… where he has been become a major investor in, promoter of, and politicial champion of the current crop of AI firms.
#AI #artificialIntelligence #browswer #culture #history #humans #learning #MarcAndreesen #NationalCenterForSupercomputingApplications #politics #progress #Technology #web #webBrowser -
[Financial Times]: Reading Socrates in Silicon Valley
Self-proclaimed stoics who denounce self-examination only prove the bankruptcy of the tech bro worldview By Jemima Kelly
https://www.ft.com/content/f9e57ed6-ad07-491c-830a-88ba92d77add?shareType=nongift
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Marc Andreessen saying "I have absolutely no introspection" is simultaneously a "No shit dude, that was obvious when you opened your mouth the first time" moment, *and* a "Wow, that explains so much about him" moment.
Achievement unlocked.
#AchievementUnlocked #Andreessen #MarcAndreesen #introspective #introspection #NoShit #obvious #TheMoreYouKnow
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Most people surely think of introspection and self-reflection as good qualities — things that help prevent you from making the same mistakes over and again. "The unexamined life is not worth living," said Socrates in around 399 BCE. But tech billionaire Marc Andreessen thinks he knows better. In a podcast interview with David Senra that has caused a stir today, he said his level of introspection is zero. "Move forward. Go ... I've just I found people who dwell in the past get stuck in the past ... It's a problem at work and it's a problem at home," he said. "You probably know if you go back 100 years ago, it never it never would have occurred to anybody to be introspective," he continued, perhaps forgetting about Socrates. Here's the full podcast interview.
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"The end-of-year contest from Tech Won’t Save Us to let YOU choose the worst person in the tech industry is back!
Here's how it works: Every day I’ll post the matchups and you'll have 12 hours to vote. That will give me time to tabulate the results and get everything ready for the next round."
https://twsu.forms.app/worst-person-tech-2025-round-one#Tech #Technology #Game #ElonMusk #DOGE #TimCook #PeterThiel #SamAltman #MarcAndreesen #JDVance #JeffBezos #LarryEllison #MarkZuckerberg #Fun #Humor
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@cdarwin
And they called Liberals "snowflakes".I have never in my life seen such a huge quivering mass of millionaires/billionaires & people with "Executive Power" WHINE so much about being "discriminated against" for being white and/or rich. #JFC #WATB Alert.
And just like how they call the Left "snowflakes" & 'violent", it's a reminder that when it comes to the Far Right: EVERY ACCUSATION IS A CONFESSION. 😒
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Astute takedown of the Silicon Valley villains in their own language. [The Bulwark, Substack]: Elon Musk Thinks He’s an Ayn Rand Hero. Nope: He’s One of Her Villains.
Recent years have revealed the Silicon Valley venture capitalists and tech entrepreneurs who worship Rand to be racists, fraudsters, and looters. By Paul Crider, March 10, 2025
#elonMusk #aynRand #jamesTaggert #marcAndreesen #peterThiel #villains
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A core vulnerability of the current #technofeudalist class (#ElonMusk, #JeffBezos, #MarcAndreesen etc) is their complete dismissal of state power. They assume the state won't ever be a player in the information infrastructure space..
Their plans depend on them having full control of the #digital information space forever, which they will use to charge rent on all us forever. Now is our chance. They are not expecting an attack from this direction. Let’s hit them back while we still can!
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My personal theory is that Silicon Valley has shifted towards griftier and more rent-seeking business models (crypto, AI) and folks like Marc Andreesen realized that actual grifters and rent-seekers would be better for their portfolios than folks like Lina Khan, who was (rightfully) cracking down on that nonsense.
#SiliconValley #Politics #MarcAndreesen #Democrats
https://www.programmablemutter.com/p/why-did-silicon-valley-turn-right
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I keep forgetting about the impending bubble collapse that was going to get blamed on #KamalaHarris:
A few days ago, the well-known venture capitalist #MarcAndreesen started to spill the beans, saying on a podcast “we're increasing [graphics processing units] at the same rate, we're not getting the intelligent improvements at all out of it” – which is basically VC-ese for “#deeplearning is hitting a wall.”
https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/confirmed-llms-have-indeed-reached?r=8tdk6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true -
"..thousands of sovereign and independent mini-countries, each governed by its own joint-stock corporation without regard to the residents’ opinions"
Welcome to #DarkEnglightement where unhinged, profoundly narcissistic #InCel #software developers circle-jerk to fascist-porn fantasies of absolute #authoritarianism.
#PeterThiel
#KKKVance
#CurtisYarvin
#MarcAndreesenhttps://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
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Most interesting editorial in the NYT by Ezra Klein that uses one of techno optiimist Marc Andreesen's manifestos to articulate some of the ideological underpinnings of the tech bro crowd. I'm using one of my subscription gift links, let's see if it works.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/opinion/marc-andreessen-reactionary-futurism.html?unlocked_article_code=1.6Ew.MfiY.NMAmCY2Csd6z&smid=url-shareAnd he's writing a book on he subject too. H/T to Erik Loomis, who made me aware of this.
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2023/10/the-weirdo-techbro-elite -
In reading through the Marc Andreessen "Manifesto" (up there with Ted Kazinski and Karl Marx), I've started to write a rebuttal. In the meantime, you can read my annotations on his essay. Warning: plenty of snark.
Note that edits are not enabled, but comments are. Pitch in!
#racism #economics #MarcAndreesen #libertarian #BullShit #ai #technology
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1HfS-iOZ1VsJX8ka82N7yhtmoKhbWdmDs4TWN14bkI/edit?usp=sharing
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I remember back when I thought #MarcAndreesen was one of the good guys fighting the good fight against the likes of soulless #corporate ghouls like #BillGates and #Microsoft.
But then, I also thought #Google would not be evil.
Everything #SiliconValley and #VentureCapital has and will touch is corrupted and rotted to its core because of its inception.
From #corruption and rot only grows the same.
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I bet Marc Andreesen and Scott Adams would be great friends.
#MarcAndreesen
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@Lightfighter I see a #Hyperloop -size brain 🧠 fart in #MarcAndreesen ‘s future! 🔮