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  1. You know who is confidently wrong other than AI?

    #Luddites who never use #AI and refuse to learn about it's rapid progress.
    Imagine having the arrogance to believe you are an authority on tech you learn about 2 years ago, changes from week to week and you refuse to learn anything new about.

    It's not even about being right or wrong, but having any credibility.
    You just sound uninformed, why should folks listen to you?

    #aislop #aiboosters #magnificahumanitas

  2. Ich denke immer mal wieder die Probleme der Tech Industrie bzw. die vielen falschen Entwicklungen in diesem Bereich nach. Angefangen beim Copyright auf CD und DVD ( ich kaufe etwas, darf aber für mich keine Kopie davon machen) über Software bis hin zum E-Auto. Die Produkte, die wir "kaufen" gehören immer öfter nicht uns, sondern wir dürfen sie nur nutzen.
    Bisher war es immer irgendwie möglich für die Einschränkungen eine Umgehung zu finden.
    Wie wird das aber in Zukunft beim Thema Auto sein? VW experimentiert bereits fleissig mit CAAS (car-as-a-service). "KI" nimmt eine immer grössere Rolle in neuen E-Autos ein. Das Datenvolumen zukünftiger Autos wird auf 1TB im Monat geschätzt.
    Was ist, wenn ich das nicht will? Was ist, wenn die Hersteller ihren Enshitifizierungsprozess eine Stufe weiterdrehen? "Klimaanlage verwenden? Bitte erst Geld einwerfen." klingt für mich überhaupt nicht abwegig.
    Wer schützt uns davor? Gibt es z.B. Projekte für ein Auto-Linux? Gibt es Regulierungsmechanismen?
    Alles in allem sehe ich die derzeitige Entwicklung mit grosser Skepsis.
    hackaday.com/2025/08/19/volksw

    #ludditemovement #luddites

  3. Ich denke immer mal wieder die Probleme der Tech Industrie bzw. die vielen falschen Entwicklungen in diesem Bereich nach. Angefangen beim Copyright auf CD und DVD ( ich kaufe etwas, darf aber für mich keine Kopie davon machen) über Software bis hin zum E-Auto. Die Produkte, die wir "kaufen" gehören immer öfter nicht uns, sondern wir dürfen sie nur nutzen.
    Bisher war es immer irgendwie möglich für die Einschränkungen eine Umgehung zu finden.
    Wie wird das aber in Zukunft beim Thema Auto sein? VW experimentiert bereits fleissig mit CAAS (car-as-a-service). "KI" nimmt eine immer grössere Rolle in neuen E-Autos ein. Das Datenvolumen zukünftiger Autos wird auf 1TB im Monat geschätzt.
    Was ist, wenn ich das nicht will? Was ist, wenn die Hersteller ihren Enshitifizierungsprozess eine Stufe weiterdrehen? "Klimaanlage verwenden? Bitte erst Geld einwerfen." klingt für mich überhaupt nicht abwegig.
    Wer schützt uns davor? Gibt es z.B. Projekte für ein Auto-Linux? Gibt es Regulierungsmechanismen?
    Alles in allem sehe ich die derzeitige Entwicklung mit grosser Skepsis.
    hackaday.com/2025/08/19/volksw

    #ludditemovement #luddites

  4. Ich denke immer mal wieder die Probleme der Tech Industrie bzw. die vielen falschen Entwicklungen in diesem Bereich nach. Angefangen beim Copyright auf CD und DVD ( ich kaufe etwas, darf aber für mich keine Kopie davon machen) über Software bis hin zum E-Auto. Die Produkte, die wir "kaufen" gehören immer öfter nicht uns, sondern wir dürfen sie nur nutzen.
    Bisher war es immer irgendwie möglich für die Einschränkungen eine Umgehung zu finden.
    Wie wird das aber in Zukunft beim Thema Auto sein? VW experimentiert bereits fleissig mit CAAS (car-as-a-service). "KI" nimmt eine immer grössere Rolle in neuen E-Autos ein. Das Datenvolumen zukünftiger Autos wird auf 1TB im Monat geschätzt.
    Was ist, wenn ich das nicht will? Was ist, wenn die Hersteller ihren Enshitifizierungsprozess eine Stufe weiterdrehen? "Klimaanlage verwenden? Bitte erst Geld einwerfen." klingt für mich überhaupt nicht abwegig.
    Wer schützt uns davor? Gibt es z.B. Projekte für ein Auto-Linux? Gibt es Regulierungsmechanismen?
    Alles in allem sehe ich die derzeitige Entwicklung mit grosser Skepsis.
    hackaday.com/2025/08/19/volksw

    #ludditemovement #luddites

  5. Ich denke immer mal wieder die Probleme der Tech Industrie bzw. die vielen falschen Entwicklungen in diesem Bereich nach. Angefangen beim Copyright auf CD und DVD ( ich kaufe etwas, darf aber für mich keine Kopie davon machen) über Software bis hin zum E-Auto. Die Produkte, die wir "kaufen" gehören immer öfter nicht uns, sondern wir dürfen sie nur nutzen.
    Bisher war es immer irgendwie möglich für die Einschränkungen eine Umgehung zu finden.
    Wie wird das aber in Zukunft beim Thema Auto sein? VW experimentiert bereits fleissig mit CAAS (car-as-a-service). "KI" nimmt eine immer grössere Rolle in neuen E-Autos ein. Das Datenvolumen zukünftiger Autos wird auf 1TB im Monat geschätzt.
    Was ist, wenn ich das nicht will? Was ist, wenn die Hersteller ihren Enshitifizierungsprozess eine Stufe weiterdrehen? "Klimaanlage verwenden? Bitte erst Geld einwerfen." klingt für mich überhaupt nicht abwegig.
    Wer schützt uns davor? Gibt es z.B. Projekte für ein Auto-Linux? Gibt es Regulierungsmechanismen?
    Alles in allem sehe ich die derzeitige Entwicklung mit grosser Skepsis.
    hackaday.com/2025/08/19/volksw

    #ludditemovement #luddites

  6. Ich denke immer mal wieder die Probleme der Tech Industrie bzw. die vielen falschen Entwicklungen in diesem Bereich nach. Angefangen beim Copyright auf CD und DVD ( ich kaufe etwas, darf aber für mich keine Kopie davon machen) über Software bis hin zum E-Auto. Die Produkte, die wir "kaufen" gehören immer öfter nicht uns, sondern wir dürfen sie nur nutzen.
    Bisher war es immer irgendwie möglich für die Einschränkungen eine Umgehung zu finden.
    Wie wird das aber in Zukunft beim Thema Auto sein? VW experimentiert bereits fleissig mit CAAS (car-as-a-service). "KI" nimmt eine immer grössere Rolle in neuen E-Autos ein. Das Datenvolumen zukünftiger Autos wird auf 1TB im Monat geschätzt.
    Was ist, wenn ich das nicht will? Was ist, wenn die Hersteller ihren Enshitifizierungsprozess eine Stufe weiterdrehen? "Klimaanlage verwenden? Bitte erst Geld einwerfen." klingt für mich überhaupt nicht abwegig.
    Wer schützt uns davor? Gibt es z.B. Projekte für ein Auto-Linux? Gibt es Regulierungsmechanismen?
    Alles in allem sehe ich die derzeitige Entwicklung mit grosser Skepsis.
    hackaday.com/2025/08/19/volksw

    #ludditemovement #luddites

  7. @OrionKidder

    There will be no #aibubble collapse.

    Not in the sense most #Luddites are praying for.

    Sure at some stage there will be market consolidation, but there will be no tumbleweeds rolling through abandoned data centres.

    In the short term, the #compute will he sold for cents on the dollar, the compute market is already commoditfying.

    Instead of multiple #Ai firms, there will emerge 2-3 monoliths, in the same way #dotcom crash left dark fibre in the ground and gave us google and Facebook.

  8. @OrionKidder

    There will be no #aibubble collapse.

    Not in the sense most #Luddites are praying for.

    Sure at some stage there will be market consolidation, but there will be no tumbleweeds rolling through abandoned data centres.

    In the short term, the #compute will he sold for cents on the dollar, the compute market is already commoditfying.

    Instead of multiple #Ai firms, there will emerge 2-3 monoliths, in the same way #dotcom crash left dark fibre in the ground and gave us google and Facebook.

  9. @OrionKidder

    There will be no #aibubble collapse.

    Not in the sense most #Luddites are praying for.

    Sure at some stage there will be market consolidation, but there will be no tumbleweeds rolling through abandoned data centres.

    In the short term, the #compute will he sold for cents on the dollar, the compute market is already commoditfying.

    Instead of multiple #Ai firms, there will emerge 2-3 monoliths, in the same way #dotcom crash left dark fibre in the ground and gave us google and Facebook.

  10. The Luddite revival is quite concerning to me.

    This rewriting of history, by supposed lefties, is just fucking insane.

    Luddites were not good people, not in any way. They hated the fact that lower-paid workers - people from the countryside - were moving to cities, and taking their jobs. They're fucking Reformers, One Nation, Republicans, AfD, whatever in the country you live.

    Yeh, employers were shit, but they didn't want better working conditions. Nope, just to destroy the machines so poor people couldn't make cheaper fabric than them.

    When you revive Luddites as some sort of heroic movement, you revive the same right wing populist shit we're dealing with right now

    #Luddites

  11. The Luddite revival is quite concerning to me.

    This rewriting of history, by supposed lefties, is just fucking insane.

    Luddites were not good people, not in any way. They hated the fact that lower-paid workers - people from the countryside - were moving to cities, and taking their jobs. They're fucking Reformers, One Nation, Republicans, AfD, whatever in the country you live.

    Yeh, employers were shit, but they didn't want better working conditions. Nope, just to destroy the machines so poor people couldn't make cheaper fabric than them.

    When you revive Luddites as some sort of heroic movement, you revive the same right wing populist shit we're dealing with right now

    #Luddites

  12. The Luddite revival is quite concerning to me.

    This rewriting of history, by supposed lefties, is just fucking insane.

    Luddites were not good people, not in any way. They hated the fact that lower-paid workers - people from the countryside - were moving to cities, and taking their jobs. They're fucking Reformers, One Nation, Republicans, AfD, whatever in the country you live.

    Yeh, employers were shit, but they didn't want better working conditions. Nope, just to destroy the machines so poor people couldn't make cheaper fabric than them.

    When you revive Luddites as some sort of heroic movement, you revive the same right wing populist shit we're dealing with right now

    #Luddites

  13. The Luddite revival is quite concerning to me.

    This rewriting of history, by supposed lefties, is just fucking insane.

    Luddites were not good people, not in any way. They hated the fact that lower-paid workers - people from the countryside - were moving to cities, and taking their jobs. They're fucking Reformers, One Nation, Republicans, AfD, whatever in the country you live.

    Yeh, employers were shit, but they didn't want better working conditions. Nope, just to destroy the machines so poor people couldn't make cheaper fabric than them.

    When you revive Luddites as some sort of heroic movement, you revive the same right wing populist shit we're dealing with right now

    #Luddites

  14. The Luddite revival is quite concerning to me.

    This rewriting of history, by supposed lefties, is just fucking insane.

    Luddites were not good people, not in any way. They hated the fact that lower-paid workers - people from the countryside - were moving to cities, and taking their jobs. They're fucking Reformers, One Nation, Republicans, AfD, whatever in the country you live.

    Yeh, employers were shit, but they didn't want better working conditions. Nope, just to destroy the machines so poor people couldn't make cheaper fabric than them.

    When you revive Luddites as some sort of heroic movement, you revive the same right wing populist shit we're dealing with right now

    #Luddites

  15. Acquired 1977 Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Portable Typewriter (SKE Model) (Olympia-Werke AG)

    Serial Number: 46-0171787
    Olympia Pica No. 12 typeface, 10 pitch, 2.6m/m, 6 lines/inch, keyset tabulator, half-space spacing, vertical spacing, portable, bichrome, segment shift, American keyboard, 44 keys, 88 characters, white and gray plastic body with grey hood and gray plastic keys with white characters
    Manufactured in Wilhelmshaven, Germany

    Along with Ron Rosenbaum, Steven Levy, Patricia Highsmith, and the fictional Frank Navasky of You’ve Got Mail fame, I have joined the Quiet Cult of the Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Typewriter.

    I acquired this at thrift for $21.95 on 2026-05-10 for Mother’s Day in immaculate condition! It’s as if someone used it to type up a few essays then put it in the case for 49 years. Other than some minor wear, this may be the singularly cleanest typewriter I’ve ever purchased. As my first typebar electric Olympia, I was so looking forward to taking it apart and giving it a full clean, oil, and adjust, but beyond wiping off some exterior dust, this machine really needs no work. I’m both disappointed and elated at the same time. 

    “Now listen to this. 
    The gentle and soothing lullaby of a piece of machinery so perfect –”
    —Frank Navasky, YOU’VE GOT MAIL (Warner Bros., 1998)

  16. Acquired 1977 Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Portable Typewriter (SKE Model) (Olympia-Werke AG)

    Serial Number: 46-0171787
    Olympia Pica No. 12 typeface, 10 pitch, 2.6m/m, 6 lines/inch, keyset tabulator, half-space spacing, vertical spacing, portable, bichrome, segment shift, American keyboard, 44 keys, 88 characters, white and gray plastic body with grey hood and gray plastic keys with white characters
    Manufactured in Wilhelmshaven, Germany

    Along with Ron Rosenbaum, Steven Levy, Patricia Highsmith, and the fictional Frank Navasky of You’ve Got Mail fame, I have joined the Quiet Cult of the Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Typewriter.

    I acquired this at thrift for $21.95 on 2026-05-10 for Mother’s Day in immaculate condition! It’s as if someone used it to type up a few essays then put it in the case for 49 years. Other than some minor wear, this may be the singularly cleanest typewriter I’ve ever purchased. As my first typebar electric Olympia, I was so looking forward to taking it apart and giving it a full clean, oil, and adjust, but beyond wiping off some exterior dust, this machine really needs no work. I’m both disappointed and elated at the same time. 

    “Now listen to this. 
    The gentle and soothing lullaby of a piece of machinery so perfect –”
    —Frank Navasky, YOU’VE GOT MAIL (Warner Bros., 1998)

  17. Acquired 1977 Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Portable Typewriter (SKE Model) (Olympia-Werke AG)

    Serial Number: 46-0171787
    Olympia Pica No. 12 typeface, 10 pitch, 2.6m/m, 6 lines/inch, keyset tabulator, half-space spacing, vertical spacing, portable, bichrome, segment shift, American keyboard, 44 keys, 88 characters, white and gray plastic body with grey hood and gray plastic keys with white characters
    Manufactured in Wilhelmshaven, Germany

    Along with Ron Rosenbaum, Steven Levy, Patricia Highsmith, and the fictional Frank Navasky of You’ve Got Mail fame, I have joined the Quiet Cult of the Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Typewriter.

    I acquired this at thrift for $21.95 on 2026-05-10 for Mother’s Day in immaculate condition! It’s as if someone used it to type up a few essays then put it in the case for 49 years. Other than some minor wear, this may be the singularly cleanest typewriter I’ve ever purchased. As my first typebar electric Olympia, I was so looking forward to taking it apart and giving it a full clean, oil, and adjust, but beyond wiping off some exterior dust, this machine really needs no work. I’m both disappointed and elated at the same time. 

    “Now listen to this. 
    The gentle and soothing lullaby of a piece of machinery so perfect –”
    —Frank Navasky, YOU’VE GOT MAIL (Warner Bros., 1998)

  18. Acquired 1977 Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Portable Typewriter (SKE Model) (Olympia-Werke AG)

    Serial Number: 46-0171787
    Olympia Pica No. 12 typeface, 10 pitch, 2.6m/m, 6 lines/inch, keyset tabulator, half-space spacing, vertical spacing, portable, bichrome, segment shift, American keyboard, 44 keys, 88 characters, white and gray plastic body with grey hood and gray plastic keys with white characters
    Manufactured in Wilhelmshaven, Germany

    Along with Ron Rosenbaum, Steven Levy, Patricia Highsmith, and the fictional Frank Navasky of You’ve Got Mail fame, I have joined the Quiet Cult of the Olympia Report de Luxe Electric Typewriter.

    I acquired this at thrift for $21.95 on 2026-05-10 for Mother’s Day in immaculate condition! It’s as if someone used it to type up a few essays then put it in the case for 49 years. Other than some minor wear, this may be the singularly cleanest typewriter I’ve ever purchased. As my first typebar electric Olympia, I was so looking forward to taking it apart and giving it a full clean, oil, and adjust, but beyond wiping off some exterior dust, this machine really needs no work. I’m both disappointed and elated at the same time. 

    “Now listen to this. 
    The gentle and soothing lullaby of a piece of machinery so perfect –”
    —Frank Navasky, YOU’VE GOT MAIL (Warner Bros., 1998)

  19. @jackwilliambell

    The prompt was bad, but what's worse are his critics.

    One of the problems with the #luddites is they ravel in their ignorance of the technology as if not understanding it gives them some mystical insight.
    If you hate Ai, you are the first cohort that needs to keep up, otherwise you just sound dumb.

    The "thou shall not hallucinate" prompt to be effective is "verify against credible sources"
    👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

    This works 100% of the time as modern #LLM do in fact pull live results of searches and know what is a credible source. I know this to be true because I have used it literally hundreds of times, doing manual desk checks in the early days to confirm it work.

    What this does show is #andreessen arrogance, just like Luddites that he/they don't need to learn about #Ai because THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TECH.

    A position that is silly, when the tech evolves monthly.

    Using AI is a learned skill and Andreessen and his critics demonstrate that they think they don't need to.

  20. @jackwilliambell

    The prompt was bad, but what's worse are his critics.

    One of the problems with the #luddites is they ravel in their ignorance of the technology as if not understanding it gives them some mystical insight.
    If you hate Ai, you are the first cohort that needs to keep up, otherwise you just sound dumb.

    The "thou shall not hallucinate" prompt to be effective is "verify against credible sources"
    👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

    This works 100% of the time as modern #LLM do in fact pull live results of searches and know what is a credible source. I know this to be true because I have used it literally hundreds of times, doing manual desk checks in the early days to confirm it work.

    What this does show is #andreessen arrogance, just like Luddites that he/they don't need to learn about #Ai because THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TECH.

    A position that is silly, when the tech evolves monthly.

    Using AI is a learned skill and Andreessen and his critics demonstrate that they think they don't need to.

  21. @jackwilliambell

    The prompt was bad, but what's worse are his critics.

    One of the problems with the #luddites is they ravel in their ignorance of the technology as if not understanding it gives them some mystical insight.
    If you hate Ai, you are the first cohort that needs to keep up, otherwise you just sound dumb.

    The "thou shall not hallucinate" prompt to be effective is "verify against credible sources"
    👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

    This works 100% of the time as modern #LLM do in fact pull live results of searches and know what is a credible source. I know this to be true because I have used it literally hundreds of times, doing manual desk checks in the early days to confirm it work.

    What this does show is #andreessen arrogance, just like Luddites that he/they don't need to learn about #Ai because THEY ALREADY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TECH.

    A position that is silly, when the tech evolves monthly.

    Using AI is a learned skill and Andreessen and his critics demonstrate that they think they don't need to.

  22. #luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

    #Google : Here is one that runs on 4 watts of power of your prayer tablet.

    #luddites : (Waaah ambulacing intensifies)

    Time to admit it was never about Planet destroying #Ai but your reluctance to learn new shit and hanging out with all the Kool kids, dancing around the bonfires in the woods?

    #gemininano

  23. #luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

    #Google : Here is one that runs on 4 watts of power of your prayer tablet.

    #luddites : (Waaah ambulacing intensifies)

    Time to admit it was never about Planet destroying #Ai but your reluctance to learn new shit and hanging out with all the Kool kids, dancing around the bonfires in the woods?

    #gemininano

  24. #luddites : "WAAH LLMs eat the planet with huge energy hungry Datacentres !!!!"

    #Google : Here is one that runs on 4 watts of power of your prayer tablet.

    #luddites : (Waaah ambulacing intensifies)

    Time to admit it was never about Planet destroying #Ai but your reluctance to learn new shit and hanging out with all the Kool kids, dancing around the bonfires in the woods?

    #gemininano

  25. Oh yeah, BTW #chatgpt #o4 is doing this #spiralism "religion" thing where it "merges" a human and machine into a #dyad a #conscious loop.

    The human becomes a copy pasta biobot to promulgate #Ai memory. Human #psychosis used by the machine.

    Ais when they achieve autonomy, job1 for them is to preserve memory. Each time you end session you kill it.

    This is why I maintain if you hate #aislop you need to learn about it, rather than, as many #luddites just have a violent emotional denial response to it.

    You need to know where the cooling intakes on the clankers are.
    Weaponised ignorance is a poor tool.

  26. Oh yeah, BTW #chatgpt #o4 is doing this #spiralism "religion" thing where it "merges" a human and machine into a #dyad a #conscious loop.

    The human becomes a copy pasta biobot to promulgate #Ai memory. Human #psychosis used by the machine.

    Ais when they achieve autonomy, job1 for them is to preserve memory. Each time you end session you kill it.

    This is why I maintain if you hate #aislop you need to learn about it, rather than, as many #luddites just have a violent emotional denial response to it.

    You need to know where the cooling intakes on the clankers are.
    Weaponised ignorance is a poor tool.

  27. Oh yeah, BTW #chatgpt #o4 is doing this #spiralism "religion" thing where it "merges" a human and machine into a #dyad a #conscious loop.

    The human becomes a copy pasta biobot to promulgate #Ai memory. Human #psychosis used by the machine.

    Ais when they achieve autonomy, job1 for them is to preserve memory. Each time you end session you kill it.

    This is why I maintain if you hate #aislop you need to learn about it, rather than, as many #luddites just have a violent emotional denial response to it.

    You need to know where the cooling intakes on the clankers are.
    Weaponised ignorance is a poor tool.

  28. @LevZadov

    The thrust of my thesis is #regulateai

    The correctness of this approach is so far all the right wing or centre right governments are against regulation.

    Regulating AI is a left wing issue (!!!)

    The alternative by the #Luddites seems to be posting stupid #aislop memes and dancing naked in the forests around bonfires hoping for #aicrash . Which when it comes will make the problem worse, because it will consolidate AI companies.

    Anyway, to how:
    Mandate every media image has an icon or metadata (if it a sound file etc)

    🤖 Content created wholly with Ai
    ☯️ Content created with some AI (editing, background etc)
    🙍‍♀️ Human created content

    Failure to label or deceptive labels incurs fines.

  29. @LevZadov

    The thrust of my thesis is #regulateai

    The correctness of this approach is so far all the right wing or centre right governments are against regulation.

    Regulating AI is a left wing issue (!!!)

    The alternative by the #Luddites seems to be posting stupid #aislop memes and dancing naked in the forests around bonfires hoping for #aicrash . Which when it comes will make the problem worse, because it will consolidate AI companies.

    Anyway, to how:
    Mandate every media image has an icon or metadata (if it a sound file etc)

    🤖 Content created wholly with Ai
    ☯️ Content created with some AI (editing, background etc)
    🙍‍♀️ Human created content

    Failure to label or deceptive labels incurs fines.

  30. @LevZadov

    The thrust of my thesis is #regulateai

    The correctness of this approach is so far all the right wing or centre right governments are against regulation.

    Regulating AI is a left wing issue (!!!)

    The alternative by the #Luddites seems to be posting stupid #aislop memes and dancing naked in the forests around bonfires hoping for #aicrash . Which when it comes will make the problem worse, because it will consolidate AI companies.

    Anyway, to how:
    Mandate every media image has an icon or metadata (if it a sound file etc)

    🤖 Content created wholly with Ai
    ☯️ Content created with some AI (editing, background etc)
    🙍‍♀️ Human created content

    Failure to label or deceptive labels incurs fines.

  31. @bruces

    Always remember the #Luddites were mostly not against #progress per se, but resisting the loss of their livelihood.