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  1. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  2. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  3. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  4. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  5. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  6. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  7. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  8. A quotation from Montaigne

    Deliberation, even about the slightest things, annoys me; and I feel my mind harder put to it to endure the various shocks and ups and downs of doubt and deliberation, than to settle down and accept any course whatever, after the die is cast. Few passions have troubled my sleep; but as for deliberations, the slightest one troubles it.
     
    [Le deliberer, voire és choses plus legeres, m’importune. Et sens mon esprit plus empesché à souffrir le bransle, & les secousses diverses du doute, & de la consultation, qu’à se rassoir & resoudre à quelque party que ce soit, apres que la chance est livree. Peu de passions m’ont troublé le sommeil ; mais des deliberations, la moindre me le trouble.]

    Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) French essayist
    Essays, Book 2, ch. 17 (2.17), “Of Presumption [De la Presomption]” (1578) [tr. Frame (1943)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montaigne-michel-de/…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montaigne #consideration #deciding #decisionmaking #deliberation #doubt #indecision #sleeplessness #insomnia

  9. A quotation from Montesquieu

    Extreme obedience assumes ignorance in the one who obeys; it assumes ignorance even in the one who commands; he does not have to deliberate, to doubt, or to reason; he has only to want.
     
    [L’extrême obéissance suppose de l’ignorance dans celui qui obéit; elle en suppose même dans celui qui commande: il n’a point à délibérer, à douter, ni à raisonner; il n’a qu’à vouloir.]

    Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755) French political philosopher
    Spirit of Laws [The Spirit of the Laws; De l’esprit des lois], Book 4, ch. 3 (4.3) (1748) [tr. Cohler/Miller/Stone (1989)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montesquieu/81939/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montesquieu #autocracy #autocrat #command #consideration #deliberation #despot #dictator #ignorance #obedience #reason #servility #tyranny #tyrant #want #will

  10. A quotation from Montesquieu

    Extreme obedience assumes ignorance in the one who obeys; it assumes ignorance even in the one who commands; he does not have to deliberate, to doubt, or to reason; he has only to want.
     
    [L’extrême obéissance suppose de l’ignorance dans celui qui obéit; elle en suppose même dans celui qui commande: il n’a point à délibérer, à douter, ni à raisonner; il n’a qu’à vouloir.]

    Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755) French political philosopher
    Spirit of Laws [The Spirit of the Laws; De l’esprit des lois], Book 4, ch. 3 (4.3) (1748) [tr. Cohler/Miller/Stone (1989)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montesquieu/81939/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montesquieu #autocracy #autocrat #command #consideration #deliberation #despot #dictator #ignorance #obedience #reason #servility #tyranny #tyrant #want #will

  11. A quotation from Montesquieu

    Extreme obedience assumes ignorance in the one who obeys; it assumes ignorance even in the one who commands; he does not have to deliberate, to doubt, or to reason; he has only to want.
     
    [L’extrême obéissance suppose de l’ignorance dans celui qui obéit; elle en suppose même dans celui qui commande: il n’a point à délibérer, à douter, ni à raisonner; il n’a qu’à vouloir.]

    Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755) French political philosopher
    Spirit of Laws [The Spirit of the Laws; De l’esprit des lois], Book 4, ch. 3 (4.3) (1748) [tr. Cohler/Miller/Stone (1989)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montesquieu/81939/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montesquieu #autocracy #autocrat #command #consideration #deliberation #despot #dictator #ignorance #obedience #reason #servility #tyranny #tyrant #want #will

  12. A quotation from Montesquieu

    Extreme obedience assumes ignorance in the one who obeys; it assumes ignorance even in the one who commands; he does not have to deliberate, to doubt, or to reason; he has only to want.
     
    [L’extrême obéissance suppose de l’ignorance dans celui qui obéit; elle en suppose même dans celui qui commande: il n’a point à délibérer, à douter, ni à raisonner; il n’a qu’à vouloir.]

    Charles-Lewis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755) French political philosopher
    Spirit of Laws [The Spirit of the Laws; De l’esprit des lois], Book 4, ch. 3 (4.3) (1748) [tr. Cohler/Miller/Stone (1989)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/montesquieu/81939/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #montesquieu #autocracy #autocrat #command #consideration #deliberation #despot #dictator #ignorance #obedience #reason #servility #tyranny #tyrant #want #will

  13. Two new essays, 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐞, diagnose a shared failure in contemporary political theory.
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.18476422
    2. 𝐂𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐥 𝐌𝐢𝐬𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 argues that even where disagreement is genuine, political explanation increasingly focuses on beliefs and values while missing the structural conditions that shape outcomes before deliberation begins.

    #philosophy #essay #politics #writing #theory #Enlightenment #conflict #ConceptualImpasse #mislocation #disagreement #beliefs #structure #deliberation

  14. A quotation from Joseph Joubert

    Imitate time. It destroys slowly. It undermines, wears, loosens, separates. It does not uproot.
     
    [Imitez le temps: il détruit tout avec lenteur; il mine, il use, il déracine, il détache, et n’arrache pas.]

    Joseph Joubert (1754-1824) French moralist, philosopher, essayist, poet
    Pensées [Thoughts], ch. 14 “Des Gouvernements [On Governments],” ¶ 31 (1793; 1850 ed.) [tr. Attwell (1896), ¶ 199]

    Sourcing, notes, alternate translations: wist.info/joubert-joseph/76888…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #decay #deliberation #gradualism #incrementalism #loosening #patience #separation #time #undermining #wear

  15. @Andrewpapale @elduvelle_neuro @BrianMSweis

    Sweeps are theta sequences. 100% They do tend to go farther during VTE than during normal running, but they are definitely relatively normal theta sequences.

    As you may know, there is this paper by Papale et al (2016 Neuron 😉​​) that definitively showed that animals are in theta through VTE. This can also be seen in the original Johnson and Redish 2007 JNeurosci paper as well as in the Kay et al 2020 Cell paper, and all the other ones that have looked.

    What is more controversial is whether #VTE = #Deliberation. My view is that VTE is a subset of Deliberation. You can see Deliberation without VTE, but not VTE without Deliberation.

    In general, what we see is three stages of theta sequences.

    (1) When an animal knows the maze, but not what to do on it, you see alternating sweeps to the goal in theta and commonly VTE (although sometimes just pausing or slowing through the choice point). [Deliberation]

    (2) When an animal knows the maze and what to do, but is still in "hippocampal" mode, you see sweeps to one side (the next goal). [Planning/Checking]

    (3) When an animal has automated what to do, sweeps drop down to very small (not going all the way to the goal), and task bracketing shows up in dorsal striatum. [Habit/Automation]

    See Redish 2016 Nature Reviews Neuroscience for a thorough review. This story has been confirmed by many papers since. Most recently see Ugurcan Mugan's 2024 bioRxiv paper.

  16. “Fostering deliberation would require platforms that encourage long-term and in-depth interaction with arguments and less 'communicative plenty'“

    @ManuelBiertz

    algorithmwatch.org/en/mastodon

    Fair comment. I do find that conversations on Discourse forums or Loomio groups are more likely to go deep, and lead to covergent outcomes, then even the most constructive chats here. I haven't used Pol.is, but I've read impressive things about its by #g0v for vTaiwan.

    #Discourse #Loomio #deliberation #vTaiwan

  17. 🧐🗞️ Here is the April newsletter of the Citizen Participation Network, including events, training opportunities, publications, resources and a job vacancy

    #demopart #participation #deliberation #democracy #coproduction #demoinno

    Available here 👉 jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc

  18. Older people (over 55) were less prone to a certain type of #deliberation during #buying and #donation #decisions—even though they were more ambivalent (and #ambivalence correlated with more deliberation) and even when controlling for working #memory—than younger people (18-24). Total N = 120. 

    Images of pages from the article are attached: ir.ua.edu/handle/123456789/990

    #age #CriticalThinking #DecisionScience #JudgmentAndDecisionMaking #JDM #DevelopmentalPsychology #DevPsych #Psychology #CogSci

  19. A Few Observations on Standing on Quicksand

    A few thoughts on the drawing I made yesterday morning.

    One amoral transactionalist or another in my drawing might try to accumulate sufficient goods — in this case, enough flooring: planks, paving stones, rebar, etc. — to shore up only his patch of quicksand.

    As he watched his trading partner and his fellow man sink, he might realize that he has done himself out of the trade that sustained and defined him.

    He might also find that he needs the other guy after all, as it’s very hard to lay planks across one area of quicksand without building up another. (The best design would go to the very margins of the whole patch of quicksand, and anchor the floor in terra firma.) He has won only as much land as his transactions to date have secured for him. Once his trading partner sinks, he has made his last acquisition.

    Even if their trade observes some rules, it will be short-lived unless they recognize that the patch of quicksand they’re standing on needs shoring up and maintenance. When the pair recognize that they share common ground, and a common future, they have a much better chance of keeping themselves from sinking.

    With that recognition, they have already crossed over from amoral transactionalism into some sense of common life or mutual standing. They can start working together, or start coordinating their efforts: they might decide to tax their trade so that they can direct some of the goods toward building a shared foundation.

    Do the pair locked in territorial rivalry have any future? One might prevail over the other, raid his stores of goods and make plans to occupy the entire territory. He could even enslave him or coerce him to build a stable platform over the quicksand patch.

    It’s a future from which both parties should recoil in horror. At the very least they might understand that, all things being equal and luck being what it is, committing to this course means that one of them will end up dead or suffering under the lash.

    And the best the winner of such a contest can hope for is the master’s fate: he will never be truly respected nor have standing as a person (which can only be granted by another person; but he has deprived his rival of that standing). He will have lost even that bitter sense of “we” that he knew in the days of territorial rivalry. Now he can only make the vanquished party hand over his goods, do his bidding, cower in fear or howl in pain.

    #amoralTransactionalism #asking #ClimateChange #coDeliberation #collaboration #commonFuture #commonLife #cruelty #deliberation #ethics #globalWarming #master #moralCommunity #mutualRespect #mutualStanding #quicksand #respect #territorialRivalry #thePowerOfAsking #transactionalism