#eliminationist — Public Fediverse posts
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⬆️ @mogus
>> Correct
Correct 😉 re Bibi
>> The only way forward for #Israel is to start treating #Palestinians like human beings, instead of threats that must be exterminated
Wrong! There are multiple ways forward:
✴️ #Hamas could surrender and release ALL #hostages
✴️ #Palestinians could disavow Hamas instead of letting them fight #inTheirName
✴️ Palestinians could RECOGNIZE Israel
Also, leave #extermination or #eliminationist rhetoric to Hamas, and chose a better word, say, "contained?" 🙂
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>> I didn't say #Israel should disarm
You complained that Israel is “refusing to disarm.”
>> They both need to de-escalate. Neither will find security by continuing the conflict
There is no equivalence between them. #Hamas charter is explicitly #eliminationist. It calls for the destruction of #Israel and killing of ALL #Jews everywhere.
Israel does not seek elimination of #Palestinians, nor the destruction of #Arab states.
Hamas needs to be disarmed and driven out of #Gaza
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>> #FalseEquivalency. "ICC prosecutor compares Hamas to the IRA"
There's #FalseEquivalence, but even #SimonHarris, #Irish PM, compared #Hamas to #IRA.
Most significant difference between them is that one is #eliminationist while the other was not.
#TheTroubles were a conflict between #Catholics and #Protestants on whether to separate from #UK or remain.
That's not what Hamas is trying to do. Its charter calls NOT for a separate state from #Israel but Israel's destruction
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⬆️ @gimulnautti
>> How well did that go in Northern Ireland?
#FalseEquivalence. Completely different backgrounds and histories. #Catholics and #Protestants in #Ireland were not #eliminationist. #Hamas charter calls for the elimination of #Jews and destruction of #Israel.
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There are people in power who are actively pursuing #supremacy, which is the popular belief that some people matter and all other people do not matter and aren’t even fully people, and probably need to be eliminated for the safety of people who matter.
These supremacists are enacting all the violence and menace and harm and abuse that always attends supremacy, because supremacy—a human spirit that believes most people don’t matter—is always inherently #eliminationist and therefore inherently #violent.
And they are almost always doing it in the name of a desire for some good thing—in fact, in the name of the exact opposite thing that they intend; in the name of the exact thing they are working to destroy.
So I conclude that fascists and other supremacists find themselves easily able to claim to hold any beliefs at all—even beliefs whose goals they are actively working against—because their only real belief is in their own supremacy.
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There are people in power who are actively pursuing #supremacy, which is the popular belief that some people matter and all other people do not matter and aren’t even fully people, and probably need to be eliminated for the safety of people who matter.
These supremacists are enacting all the violence and menace and harm and abuse that always attends supremacy, because supremacy—a human spirit that believes most people don’t matter—is always inherently #eliminationist and therefore inherently #violent.
And they are almost always doing it in the name of a desire for some good thing—in fact, in the name of the exact opposite thing that they intend; in the name of the exact thing they are working to destroy.
So I conclude that fascists and other supremacists find themselves easily able to claim to hold any beliefs at all—even beliefs whose goals they are actively working against—because their only real belief is in their own supremacy.
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This video includes more examples of the openly stated #eliminationist rhetoric from #Israeli officials, as well as some discussion of the increasing frequency of their referring to all #Palestinians as "Nazis" and to their violence in #Gaza (and the #WestBank) as "de-Nazification", echoing the alleged justifications from #Putin for #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine, a horrendous conflict that has nonetheless seen significantly fewer civilians murdered and maimed in twenty-one months than the #IDF has been responsible for in Gaza in less than two months.
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This video includes more examples of the openly stated #eliminationist rhetoric from #Israeli officials, as well as some discussion of the increasing frequency of their referring to all #Palestinians as "Nazis" and to their violence in #Gaza (and the #WestBank) as "de-Nazification", echoing the alleged justifications from #Putin for #Russia's invasion of #Ukraine, a horrendous conflict that has nonetheless seen significantly fewer civilians murdered and maimed in twenty-one months than the #IDF has been responsible for in Gaza in less than two months.
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Israeli military forces have killed more medics than Hamas commanders, with hundreds of documented attacks on medical facilities, ambulances & personnel.
Combined with deprivations of food, clean water, shelter & energy, the collapse of the health system in #Gaza means devastating epidemics approach.
Senior Israeli government figures have openly been using #eliminationist language.
Giora Eiland, former #IDF operations chief & current defence advisor, wrote this in a major 'centrist' newspaper in Israel: "The international community is warning us against severe humanitarian disaster and severe epidemics. We must not shy away from this. After all, severe epidemics in the south of Gaza will bring victory closer. There's no reason why the Hamas generals in southern Gaza wouldn't surrender when they have no fuel, no water, and when plagues reach them and the danger to the lives of their family members will increase".
To which the current finance minister replied: "I agree with every word".
The goals of #Israeli leadership go well beyond merely targeting #Hamas. That line, endlessly repeated by western governments & media, is PR for a modicum of #PlausibleDeniability. According to many recognised experts in such matters, the goal of this conflict is #EthnicCleansing and #genocide.
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Israeli military forces have killed more medics than Hamas commanders, with hundreds of documented attacks on medical facilities, ambulances & personnel.
Combined with deprivations of food, clean water, shelter & energy, the collapse of the health system in #Gaza means devastating epidemics approach.
Senior Israeli government figures have openly been using #eliminationist language.
Giora Eiland, former #IDF operations chief & current defence advisor, wrote this in a major 'centrist' newspaper in Israel: "The international community is warning us against severe humanitarian disaster and severe epidemics. We must not shy away from this. After all, severe epidemics in the south of Gaza will bring victory closer. There's no reason why the Hamas generals in southern Gaza wouldn't surrender when they have no fuel, no water, and when plagues reach them and the danger to the lives of their family members will increase".
To which the current finance minister replied: "I agree with every word".
The goals of #Israeli leadership go well beyond merely targeting #Hamas. That line, endlessly repeated by western governments & media, is PR for a modicum of #PlausibleDeniability. According to many recognised experts in such matters, the goal of this conflict is #EthnicCleansing and #genocide.
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1947 also saw the partition of #British #India, months before the partition of British #Palestine.
Both India & #Pakistan largely accepted the outcome. Even though hostilities continue to the day, there was never "openly #eliminationist rhetoric" between the two
#Nakba, the leap from #aggression to #victimhood, is astonishing. More astonishing is the change in meaning of Nakba itself — from humiliating defeat to forced victimhood — laced with #Holocaust envy for rationalizers