#intheirname — Public Fediverse posts
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⬆️ @ferret
>> people around here actually read history.
Then those very same people must know that it was the Arab world that started the 1947 war, and it was #Palestinians that let them fight #inTheirName.
How come now neighboring Arab states are not welcoming Palestinian refugees the way West welcomed Jewish refugees of the #Holocaust?
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⬆️ @stuffifound
>> "That was not a problem for them…"???
"…UNTIL #Israel came into existence in 1947".
If it were a problem before, you'd have heard it.
There was no independent #Palestine before #BalfourDeclaration.
There wasn’t going to be one even if no #Balfour Declaration.
#TurkishYoke Palestinians would still be under a yoke, but of a different #MENA country. They're "marginalized" because they let others fight #inTheirName. #PanArabism
Open a history book https://www.amazon.com/Balfour-Declaration-Origins-Arab-Israeli-Conflict/dp/1400065321/
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⬆️ @theothersimo
>> if #Harris felt that her position as VP prevented her from criticizing her boss’s role in #genocide then she needed to resign.No, you need to stop spreading disinfo. #KamalaHarris supported a #TwoStateSolution that #Trump will never support, even though many european nations already do, and #France is on the cusp of doing so.
Protesters who spoke for #Palestinians #inTheirName have hurt the #Palestinian cause more than anybody by reelecting Trump
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⬆️ @linuxpickle
>> they're not protesting against Hamas. This is a propaganda message that has been manufactured by Zionists and the western media.
So, I take it that you are OK with #Hamas fighting #inTheirName? [Click through the hashtag to learn more]
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For 75+ years #Palestinians have let neighboring countries and their proxies foment war #inTheirName.
So, it is quite remarkable to see them protest #Hamas in a rare show of public anger against the militant group in #Gaza.
Palestinians held signs saying “Stop the war… We refuse to die” and “The blood of our children is not cheap”
“We are sick of the bombing, killing and displacement.”
Hamas is “the only party we can affect. Protests won’t stop Israeli occupation…”
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⬆️ @Nazani
>> Perhaps the obsession with sacred #martyrdom precludes "what if we end up worse off" reflection.
Yes, exactly! As the author of the original essay wrote:
"A people on the cusp of #liberation instead suffered war deaths and the moral rot caused by the veneration of suicide and murder."
#EcstasyAndAmnesia #VenerationOfSuicide #InTheirName #Palestine #Israel.
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⬆️ Time to boost 🧵 #EcstasyAndAmnesia again… #WorthReading
Hard to miss the sudden and magical end to the conflict as #Biden retires.
Noting that correlation ≠ causation, I posit that the conflict was contrived for a specific objective, that objective was achieved, and like #DamascusProtocol, it was NOT dreamt up in consultation with #Palestinians, nor had #Palestinian interest in mind.
Once again, ecstasy will subside, amnesia will set in, and Palestinians will let others fight #inTheirName
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"Contrary to the impression we often get via the world's media, most of the #MiddleEast is not at war. Day-to-day life in places like #Dubai, #SaudiArabia and #Egypt goes on as normal, untouched by the threat of war. Even in countries that have recently experienced conflict in some form, like #Iraq and #Iran, life is largely peaceful for most people."
Not at all surprising how little the #Arab world cares about their #brothers in #Palestine.
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⬆️ Many of those hit were members of #Hezbollah. Not clear if non-Hezbollah members also carried any exploding pagers.
The blasts were mainly in areas where Hezbollah has a STRONG PRESENCE… according to Lebanese security officials and a Hezbollah official.
Hezbollah said that it would CONTINUE its NORMAL strikes against Israel “as in all the past days” as part of what it describes as a support front for its ally, #Hamas, and #Palestinians #inTheirName.
https://time.com/7022209/taiwan-firm-deny-making-pagers-lebanon-syria-budapest
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⬆️ >> [Nov 2023] #NasarallahWasCoy about #Oct7 but ended up discrediting his own public denial spectacularly.
Now, Yahya #Sinwar, the #Oct7 mastermind and new leader of #Hamas, thanks #Nasarallah, the #Hezbollah leader for latter's help attacking #Israel.
They are no longer hiding the coordination between Hamas and Hezbollah and openly implicating #Iran in the conflict.
Sinwar called the war “one of the most honorable battles for the #Palestinian people” #inTheirName
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⬆️ >> #Palestinians never fought for freedom
They never fought for freedom despite being under the #TurkishYoke since 1517 the way #Arabs under #Hussein did in 1917.That’s how Arabs earned their freedom, but Palestinians never did.
Instead, egged on by Arab neighbors, they let the neighbors fight #inTheirName ever since 1947 (and later #Hamas) without taking their destiny in their own hands
@ajaykaul10 @ekis @Properganda @tartley @Lane @chiclet @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
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⬆️ @ekis
>> I accept Israel exists
Are you #Palestinian and do you have support of the majority of #Palestinians on the above issue?
If not, then your voice in this respect does not matter.
It is up to Palestinians to take control of their own destiny instead of letting #Hamas fight #inTheirName
See hashtags #PermanentStateOfWar and #inTheirName if you want to see what Palestinians have done to themselves.
@tartley @Lane @chiclet @Properganda @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
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⬆️ @junesim63
>> Distinguished Israeli genocide historian, Omer Bartov, writes about the complete indifference of most Israelis to what is being done in their name.
Wow, I had NEVER imagined the hashtag #inTheirName to apply in this context.
I have hundreds of posts with this tag for the other side, but the repeated use of the phrase “in their name” in the story linked to in the above post comes as a gut punch and is shaking my deeply held beliefs
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⬆️ @wdlindsy
>> "decision about #Israel-related citations… means that one of the most prominent & longstanding #Jewish advocacy groups… – and one historically seen as the leading #US authority on #antisemitism – is now grouped together with the #NationalInquirer, #Newsmax, & #OccupyDemocrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation"
#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #antisemitism #BDS #BDSMovement
Want to tag this with #ShamAntisemitism and #inTheirName for no particular reason.
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⬆️ @mogus
>> Correct
Correct 😉 re Bibi
>> The only way forward for #Israel is to start treating #Palestinians like human beings, instead of threats that must be exterminated
Wrong! There are multiple ways forward:
✴️ #Hamas could surrender and release ALL #hostages
✴️ #Palestinians could disavow Hamas instead of letting them fight #inTheirName
✴️ Palestinians could RECOGNIZE Israel
Also, leave #extermination or #eliminationist rhetoric to Hamas, and chose a better word, say, "contained?" 🙂
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⬆️ @rightardia @enoch_exe_inc @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog
>> Israel has had 76 years to settle with the Palestinians
Isn’t that backwards given that:
1. In 1947 it was #Palestinians who spat on the #UN #TwoStateSolution
2. In 1948 Palestinians let neighboring #Arab states to fight a full-scale war #inTheirName with Israel, and LOST
What led to 1967 #SixDayWar, 1973 #YomKippur War, 1982 #LebanonWar, 2006 #SecondLebanonWar, & 2023 Israel-#Hamas War?
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⬆️ @samhkennedy
>> If #Israel had followed any form of legal process, not funded Hamas to undermine any peace process maybe things would have been different
Skipping a lot of #history? My timeline is FULL of that. Look for #TurkishYoke, #ThievesBanquet, #DamascusProtocol, #Arabism, #ArabNationalism, #permanentStateOfWar, #inTheirName…
Before Israel funded Hamas, #Palestinians kicked offer for free state in 1947 & joined Arabs in war. If they hadn’t done that, Israel wouldn’t need to fund Hamas
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⬆️ @rela45
>> #ICJ has made this ruling is hinting that #Israel will be guilty in the #genocide case having ignored "instruction"
ICJ is blowing #SouthAfrica, #Iran, & #Russia horn
>> It seems inevitable then that the ICC will find key individuals guilty too in that case
#ICC is independent & called out Hamas too
>>It's just a tragedy that it will come too late for so many innocent Palestinians
#Palestinians are NOT innocent. It is #PalestinianGuilt that they let #Hamas fight #inTheirName
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⬆️ @gimulnautti
#Arabs joined the British to defeat the Turks, and so earned freedom on the #Arabian Peninsula. What did Palestinians do to EARN their freedom?
In 1947, Palestinians were given freedom but they rejected it at the behest of neighboring Arab nations who they let fight #inTheirName, lost multiple times, and came out worse off each time. That’s Palestinian folly, not Israel’s fault.
Adding new tag: #PalestinianGuilt
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⬆️ >> Deal with #Hamas is a non-starter.
A #grandBargain hinges on #Palestinian statehood.
Even if/when #Israel accepts that, "bargain" means the other side has to GIVE something too.
Unfortunately, there is not much interest among neighboring #Arab states in rebuilding a New #Palestine.
That's why Palestinians need to sever ties with their phony well-wishers, who they let fight #inTheirName, but who will do NOTHING to ameliorate their situation.
Arab #MarshallPlan ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111503067973481777
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>> #Israel should not be asked to accept a #Palestinian state immediately after #Oct7
No ally, incl #US asked for that
>> definitely not without conditions being met on the Palestinian side
Definitely.
>> Israel already tried this, up to and including complete disengagement from #Gaza, and it got Oct7 for its trouble.
It is the fault of #Palestinians — and NONE other — to let #Hamas fight #inTheirName.
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⬆️ @acarson
Longtime readers of my posts know that I've always been supportive of #Israel's right to defend itself from #Hamas, and I've always blamed #Palestinians for their own misfortune (see #inTheirName).
#Netanyahu lost my support by revealing his INTENT to occupy #Gaza permanently (or indefinitely). He has also lost support from his OWN war cabinet.
He has been defying allies for MONTHS— cap in one hand, #middleFinger on another ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111853207587158209
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⬆️ @kravietz
Both #Netanyahu and #Haniyeh have a #perverseIncentive to maintain #permanentStateOfWar in #Gaza and both are collectively responsible, with #Palestinians being the losers. #inTheirName
ICC prosecutor said that he had “reasonable grounds to believe” that #Sinwar, #Deif and #Haniyeh were responsible for “#warCrimes and #crimesAgainstHumanity” — including “the killing of hundreds of #Israeli civilians in attacks perpetrated by #Hamas.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/world/middleeast/icc-hamas-netanyahu.html?smid=tw-share
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⬆️ #EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip
A global diplomatic edifice that keeps the #Palestinians in a permanent holding pattern of misery stemming from defeated #Arab war efforts, where the Palestinians themselves weren’t even always the central actors in the descent to war or the principal combatants who lost them, is unlike anything the international community has attempted in other conflicts.
#permanentStateOfWar #inTheirName
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⬆️ #EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip #inTheirName
Again and again, #Palestinians have served as the tip of someone else’s spear, and when [the spears break], it’s evidently easier to blame the wall they hit than the person who threw them.
Thus, the EXTERNAL embrace of the #PalestinianCause once again reinforced the self-serving instinct to the postwar erasure of prewar emotions, and accompanying turns from certain victory to impending loss to the final resting state of the purity of victimhood
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⬆️ #EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip
In each of the 3 wars, the #Palestinian cause was taken up in a larger global struggle 👀 : first, #WorldWarII, then the #ColdWar, then the #jihadist war against free societies.
#Palestine has served as an excellent rallying cry for OTHERS [who only fight #inTheirName].
For #Palestinians, the result has never been good.
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⬆️ @knowprose
Supporting #Palestinians is supporting #Hamas by proxy, as it is THEY that have let Hamas fight #inTheirName instead of denouncing them & distancing from them. They need to take their destiny in their OWN hands with a fresh manifesto along the lines of #inOurName.
Please click through both hashtags if you want more discussion of why Palestinians are mostly responsible for their own plight, and how blaming others will not ameliorate their situation.
Also see #UncannySimilarities
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⬆️ @TonyStark
The only way #Palestinians can redeem themselves is by dissociating themselves from #Hamas, and instead of letting Hamas fight #inTheirName, declare their own #inOurName manifesto just as forcefully.
Note to #BDS, BDSMovement, #BDSHorseshoe: Not all #Jews think alike
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⬆️ @8124
#Palestinian situation has gotten progressively worse since 1947 when they made the pivotal mistake of rejecting the #UN partition plan at the behest of their #Arab neighbors.
This time too, as before, they will emerge worse off from where they were on #Oct7 because of their continued mistake of NOT rejecting #Hamas, and letting them fight #inTheirName instead
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⬆️ @Dinger @billiglarper @marius_gs
>> Hamas knows it can’t win
👍>> Bibi is disgracing his country
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>> Fuck Hamas
👍>> but they are resilient
They are crumbling.
>> and so are Palestinians
They have been the biggest losers since #WWII, are the biggest losers now, and will be in worse shape than they were in on #Oct7 if they don't disavow and distance themselves from #Hamas.
See hashtag #inTheirName for why they are in such a sorry situation.
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"..."Hamas rulers," who Palestinians continue to let fight #inTheirName only for a #permanentStateOfWar."
Do you also collectively blame Russian people for "letting" Putin invade Ukraine?
Do you blame Black people for "letting" whites enslave them?
Or do you reserve such insanity for Arabs and Muslims only?