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  1. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  2. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  3. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  4. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  5. A quotation from Thomas More

    Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
       If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
       So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
     
       [Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
       Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
       Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences

  6. A quotation from Thomas More

    Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
       If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
       So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
     
       [Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
       Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
       Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences

  7. A quotation from Thomas More

    Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
       If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
       So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
     
       [Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
       Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
       Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences

  8. A quotation from Thomas More

    Well, those are my objections on moral grounds. From a practical point of view, surely it’s obvious that to punish thieves and murderers in precisely the same way is not only absurd but also highly dangerous for the public.
       If a thief knows that a conviction for murder will get him into no more trouble than a conviction for theft, he’s naturally impelled to kill the person that he’d otherwise merely have robbed. It’s no worse for him if he’s caught, and it gives him a better chance of not being caught, and of concealing the crime altogether by eliminating the only witness.
       So in our efforts to terrorize thieves we’re actually encouraging them to murder innocent people.
     
       [Non licere putem. Quam uero sit absurdum, atque etiam perniciosum reipublicae furem, atque homicidam ex aequo puniri, nemo est, opinor, qui nesciat.
       Nempe quum latro conspiciat non minus imminere discriminis duntaxat furti damnato, quam si praeterea conuincatur homicidij, hac una cogitatione impellitur in caedem eius, quem alioqui fuerat tantum spoliaturus. quippe praeterquam quod deprehenso nihil sit plus periculi, est etiam in caede securitas maior, & maior caelandi spes sublato facinoris indice.
       Itaque dum fures nimis atrociter studemus perterrefacere, in bonorum incitamus perniciem.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Turner (1965 ed.)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/83554/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #penalsystem #capitalpunishment #crime #criminal #cruelty #deathpenalty #execution #hanging #killing #nothingtolose #punishment #severity #stealing #theft #thief #thievery #unintendedconsequences

  9. #OTD (April 10) in 1937, the killing of an #NYPD detective by restaurant robbers leads to the wrongful conviction (and nearly to the execution) of Isidore "Beansy' Zimmerman.

    writersofwrongs.com/2017/04/80

    #NewYork #CrimeHistory #CapitalPunishment #Histodons