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Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/thoughts-on-mechanical-keyboards-zsa-moonlander

#HackerNews #MechanicalKeyboards #ZSAMoonlander #TechTalk #Ergonomics #KeyboardEnthusiast

I bought a #zsamoonlander a few months ago because my left wrist hurt began to hurt. I have an asymmetric tilt set up between the two halves. Does anyone else do something similar?

https://snee.la/posts/moonlander/

There's a #plushtodon photo :D

@ieure Now that sounds interesting. I'm disappointed in the Kalih browns I got with the #ZSAMoonlander that I use a work.

So I _would_ change the Zeal 3-in-1 Clickiez switches to silent tactile for my office work use-case, but if the clicky configuration is as good as you suggest, I might consider a second set for home use, where my Cherry blues are not exactly impressing, especially compared to my IBM model M... assuming compatibility.

Thanks for the tip, I might check them out.

@awoodsnet I got Cherry MX Blue switches on my second #ZsaMoonlander (See https://indieweb.social/@mcrocker/113830573317423245 ) for home use, where clicky keys won't bother anyone 😉

Like you, I found these took more force than I expected. I was hoping that they would be more like my IBM model M #MechanicalKeyboard that they were modeled after. However, they're better than the Kailh Brown and definitely better than Outemu Blues that I had on a Redragon Vata keyboard. No false positives with these either 🌞

@awoodsnet On my first #ZsaMoonlander I got Kailh box brown switches for use at work. They are the least tactile switches I have ever used that claim to be tactile. There's no obvious bump, unless you count the stickiness at the very top of the travel. I would sum them up as muddy.

https://keebworks.com/kailh-box-brown/ confirms my experience.

Despite that, they are still better for typing than Otemu brown switches because I _never_ get any false positive key presses.

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I have reached peak awkwardness with my #ZSAMoonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander #MechanicalKeyboard.

Before Christmas I told people I was about 70% of my typing speed on my previous 104 key QWERTY Mechanical keyboard (Redragon Vata with Outemu browns). Then, I Forgot the Moonlander at home and discovered, it was more like 50%.

I Forgot again the other day and found, I'm slower on the old keyboard too, because I have to pause and search for key combos like Alt-Home, Ctrl-Sft-Right etc.. 🤦‍♂️

@jalefkowit I _just_ doubled down on a second #ZSAMoonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander (an ergonomic, split, columnar, tent-able, RGB, #MechanicalKeyboard).

After trudging through the snow and ice with thick gloves on and carrying that keyboard to and from work, I figured that it didn't matter if I still hadn't learned it well enough to be as fast as I was before, because it would be cheaper to buy a second one for home, than if I fell on my ass and broke something (keyboard or bones). 😉

Odd question for anyone that owns a #zsa #moonlander or a #voyager #keyboard . Can you set keys to send midi messages so you can have a layer that works as a midi controller pad by sending all kinds of midi messages? I know qmk has support for this but wander if zsa keyboards does too. I would much rather get one of there keyboards then try to hack something together on one of my qkm based keyboards

#zsamoonlander #zsavoyager #mechanicalkeyboard

I am disappointed with the Kailh box brown switches on my #ZSAMoonlander #SplitMechanicalKeyboard because they don't feel very tactile.

This review, https://keebworks.com/kailh-box-brown/ , would have told me that they have a very small "bump" right up near the top of the range of travel.

The Outemu browns, from my re-entry to the #MechanicalKeyboard world experiment, feel much more like my IBM model M, but sometimes register key presses before the bump.

Kailh's never give me false positive key presses.

@waxbanks okay ill print the PDFs thanks for the feedback. It is not the first time I read about the thumb buttons being a bit far on the #zsamoonlander. I also have not the biggest hands for sure. Also I wasn't planing on getting that metal tenting kit, which is another 100 bucks at least... but yea. Does such a kit not exist for the voyager?

@waxbanks So if I mainly want one for stationary use, you would recommend to go with the #zsamoonlander instead? I have no preference for flat switches.

Somebody asked me today how I got the hang of the #zsamoonlander. To be fair, the Moonlander is relatively tame compared to some of my other keyboards. :)

I'm rather proud of this part of my answer:

> I guess the short version: embrace the DIY/hacker mentality: if it doesn’t work for you, change it. Question defaults: are they really still valid? Do they work for you?

@christophe Anything to say in comparison of #moonlander to #Voyager? #zsavoyager #zsamoonlander

Well, I kind of knew this already, but just so nobody complains:

Oryx Configurator says:

> Shifted symbols are determined by your OS keyboard settings rather than the physical keyboard itself. Showing these symbols in Oryx just isn't practical because of the system permissions required. However, all the shifted combinations that you're used to will still work, even if they don't show up in Oryx. Give them a try!

I've been trying to!

Still can't find Home, End, etc...

#ZSA #ZSAMoonLander

Argh! Learning the https://www.zsa.io/moonlander is so frustrating 🤬where the $#!?&% is the @#√-+! double quotes key on the standard layout???

Keymapp is really helpful for keys that it shows, but there is no '"' to be seen. The Oryx configator https://configure.zsa.io/moonlander/layouts/default/latest/0/ doesn't do any better. The training even asks you to type it without any hint for where it might be. I use Home and End frequently. Where are they? Page up/down, Insert, Delete????? It would be great of it had search 🙏

#ZSAMoonlander

There are definitely too many hoops to jump through when trying to set up a US INTL NODEADKEYS layout on Windows.

#Windows #ZSAMoonlander

Since mid October 2023, noticing I was starting to have more and more #wristPain, which were lasting days instead of hours... I opted to give those fancy #ergonomic #splitKeyboards a chance, and after several research hours, I opted for the #ZSA #Moonlander, there were alternatives, but too far from what I was used to, was unsure and this was my final choice. (also found a good local used deal)

Since I was changing keyboard, why not use also a more ergonomic layout? So, I opted for a #shockTherapy and went with #Dvorak and used this combination ever since! My first days were quite.... a going back to when I was 7 years old, sub 10 wpm XD but after a couple of weeks, typing was not as humiliating as before and my speeds increased :)

From time to time, I recorded my progress on #Monkeytype and these at the bottom are 4 months of data, from a classical full size #qwerty at 110ish wpm to currently 60ish, with a constant increase week after week. I am not in a hurry, as my wrist pain vanished, and that was the final goal.. So I'm okay with half the speed and -95%ish pains :)

Hope this might prove useful to someone that is also considering this #journey or have this kind of #pain ^^

https://monkeytype.com/profile/frayoshi
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#data #research #computer #ergoKeyboard #keyboards #keyboard #ergo #zsaMoonlander

Vor etwas über einem Jahr habe ich mit der #ZSAMoonlander meine erste geteilte Tastatur bekommen. Das war hauptsächlich eine Entscheidung aufgrund der Ergonomie. Heute könnte ich mir das kaum mehr anders vorstellen.
Dank etwas Starthilfe und Inspiration von @0x17 werde ich dann eine #CorneKeyboard zusammenbauen. Heute sind die letzten Teile angekommen. Naja abgesehen von Keycaps, die kommen später custom dazu 😁
Mal sehen, wann ich Zeit habe zu löten...

#MechanicalKeyboard #SplitKeyboards

Should i try using #HomeRowMods on my #ZSAMoonlander tomorrow?

#MechanicalKeyboard #CCHUltras

Picture of the beast #ergonomickeyboard #ergodox #zsamoonlander

While I won’t have a computer that refrains from kernel panicking when it gets a whiff of me running Windows in time to finish out interviews, my replacement #zsamoonlander shipped from Taiwan two days ago and should be here today!! https://t.co/0HNRWCw5WA