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  1. While #Capitalism is the main root of the #Polycrisis since the culprit behind it all is the simple fact that we have exceeded the sustainable planetary growth limits of Earth, as already outlined in the 1972 MIT computer model simulation study Limits of Growth, Capitalism is not the whole problem, and 19th century ideas of proletarian revolutions won't solve it. There are other roots that need to get ripped out along with the capitalist world economy. The 20th century showed us that a Soviet style socialist regime is even worse in terms of sustainability, and that our entire Industrial Age is basically unsustainable, which means it _will_ end no matter what we do. No reform or revolution can stop the already ongoing collapse because we're deep in overshoot, the global economy _will_ shrink, many systems are already beginning to unravel, our civilisation won't last for very much longer.

    A #SocialistWorldRevolution would help a lot, but it wouldn't be enough. A #GreenWorldRevolution would help a lot, but it wouldn't be enough. A #GreenSocialistWorldRevolution would get us on the best of all possible trajectories, but it would still lead into a slow #decline and eventual #collapse at some point in the next few centuries. A shrinking economy is no fun at all, therefore it is wrong to think of #degrowth as something we can decide to do or not; the economy will shrink no matter what we do, and degrowth is an attempt at achieving a controlled economic contraction instead of an uncontrollable chaotic breakdown.

    The real problem us that all of our modern industrial cultures, no matter whether Western or Eastern, rooted in European or Asian thinking, are about to end. Our ways of thinking about the world, about the role and place of humanity within that world, about the might and importance of the human race, are completely out of touch with the real, living planet. We live in landscapes that have been raped and dismembered by our machines since before we were born, we live in a dead world where most of the few remaining living things are humans, and we don't even remember what it feels like to participate in a living ecosystem as an animal among others.

    We are part of the ecosystems in which we live, whether we like it or not. And there is no way to keep producing and using our modern technology. I don't say we should just stop using our technology, I say we should steel ourselves and enjoy our time as long as it lasts, because 60 years from now, computers will be something rare and expensive very people ever get to touch, just like they were 60 years ago. The Industrial Age is close to its peak, it's probably already behind us. We're in the plateau phase of our growth now, and we don't know how soon we will drop over the edge, and how steep it will be. We need to be ready.

    The Polycrisis is not just a series of crises and catastrophes, that's just how it is presented to us in the media, usually paired with suggestions for technical solutions to each particular problem, but that's not how it works. #ClimateChange escalating into #ClimateChaos , #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction , #war and #hunger and #Fascism and all those things, #inflation and #recession etc., they are all just symptoms, and the disease is our industrial civilisation itself. We think we can solve everything with machines, but the machines are eating the world, and we are part of the world they're eating. It just doesn't work. The future will have much fewer humans and not very much technological complexity, there's no way to avoid that. There won't be any people building cities on Mars, there will be people moving across the planet on foot and in carts drawn by horses and donkeys, nomadic post-collapse tribes on a broken planet that probably won't support more than a few hundred million humans anymore. If there is any kind of Mad Max warriors riding motorbikes and driving cars and tanks, it won't last for very long, that period will peter out as it runs out of fuel, and the fewer survivors remain, the more likely they are to cooperate instead of killing one another. When there aren't many humans left, you cannot afford to kill anybody who might otherwise help everyone survive a little longer. Even if they can't work very much, they can still think about things and perhaps come up with important ideas.

    Today we need to resist the Fascists and oligarchs that are trying to use the chaos for their power grabs, and a who are accelerating the breakdown of the #biosphere as if they weren't part of it. (They're rich and stupid but consider themselves smart, and because they're too important to die, they think their plans will work). Tomorrow we need to cooperate in our struggle to survive the escalating chaos. The future will be ugly, but we can still survive. We might have to #EatTheRich and #BashTheFash though.

  2. While #Capitalism is the main root of the #Polycrisis since the culprit behind it all is the simple fact that we have exceeded the sustainable planetary growth limits of Earth, as already outlined in the 1972 MIT computer model simulation study Limits of Growth, Capitalism is not the whole problem, and 19th century ideas of proletarian revolutions won't solve it. There are other roots that need to get ripped out along with the capitalist world economy. The 20th century showed us that a Soviet style socialist regime is even worse in terms of sustainability, and that our entire Industrial Age is basically unsustainable, which means it _will_ end no matter what we do. No reform or revolution can stop the already ongoing collapse because we're deep in overshoot, the global economy _will_ shrink, many systems are already beginning to unravel, our civilisation won't last for very much longer.

    A #SocialistWorldRevolution would help a lot, but it wouldn't be enough. A #GreenWorldRevolution would help a lot, but it wouldn't be enough. A #GreenSocialistWorldRevolution would get us on the best of all possible trajectories, but it would still lead into a slow #decline and eventual #collapse at some point in the next few centuries. A shrinking economy is no fun at all, therefore it is wrong to think of #degrowth as something we can decide to do or not; the economy will shrink no matter what we do, and degrowth is an attempt at achieving a controlled economic contraction instead of an uncontrollable chaotic breakdown.

    The real problem us that all of our modern industrial cultures, no matter whether Western or Eastern, rooted in European or Asian thinking, are about to end. Our ways of thinking about the world, about the role and place of humanity within that world, about the might and importance of the human race, are completely out of touch with the real, living planet. We live in landscapes that have been raped and dismembered by our machines since before we were born, we live in a dead world where most of the few remaining living things are humans, and we don't even remember what it feels like to participate in a living ecosystem as an animal among others.

    We are part of the ecosystems in which we live, whether we like it or not. And there is no way to keep producing and using our modern technology. I don't say we should just stop using our technology, I say we should steel ourselves and enjoy our time as long as it lasts, because 60 years from now, computers will be something rare and expensive very people ever get to touch, just like they were 60 years ago. The Industrial Age is close to its peak, it's probably already behind us. We're in the plateau phase of our growth now, and we don't know how soon we will drop over the edge, and how steep it will be. We need to be ready.

    The Polycrisis is not just a series of crises and catastrophes, that's just how it is presented to us in the media, usually paired with suggestions for technical solutions to each particular problem, but that's not how it works. #ClimateChange escalating into #ClimateChaos , #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction , #war and #hunger and #Fascism and all those things, #inflation and #recession etc., they are all just symptoms, and the disease is our industrial civilisation itself. We think we can solve everything with machines, but the machines are eating the world, and we are part of the world they're eating. It just doesn't work. The future will have much fewer humans and not very much technological complexity, there's no way to avoid that. There won't be any people building cities on Mars, there will be people moving across the planet on foot and in carts drawn by horses and donkeys, nomadic post-collapse tribes on a broken planet that probably won't support more than a few hundred million humans anymore. If there is any kind of Mad Max warriors riding motorbikes and driving cars and tanks, it won't last for very long, that period will peter out as it runs out of fuel, and the fewer survivors remain, the more likely they are to cooperate instead of killing one another. When there aren't many humans left, you cannot afford to kill anybody who might otherwise help everyone survive a little longer. Even if they can't work very much, they can still think about things and perhaps come up with important ideas.

    Today we need to resist the Fascists and oligarchs that are trying to use the chaos for their power grabs, and a who are accelerating the breakdown of the #biosphere as if they weren't part of it. (They're rich and stupid but consider themselves smart, and because they're too important to die, they think their plans will work). Tomorrow we need to cooperate in our struggle to survive the escalating chaos. The future will be ugly, but we can still survive. We might have to #EatTheRich and #BashTheFash though.

  3. @aurochs @condret @carnage4life The problem is that we also can't increase the overall complexity of our systems any longer, and we won't even be able to sustain our current complexity much longer because of all the cumulative damage "we" (the people of the industrialised countries) have done to the Earth's systems within the last roughly 250 years, which will take at least tens of thousands of years to heal.
    Don't trust economists, they don't even know about all the things the planet does for us for free, they don't live in the real world but in a ficticious universe where everything can be replaced with something else, and where the climate doesn't influence the economy very much because most of it takes place inside factory buildings. Even Marxist economists underestimate the economic impacts of the #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction and the escalating #ClimateChaos all around us, and non-Marxist economists are generally lost and shouldn't be taken seriously.

    Besides, economists tend to see the economy as something fundamental, while in the real world, it is a system of the highest order which only exists because of all the really fundamental systems underneath, and the fact that economists and their way of thinking about the world have gained utter control of the higher levels of politics is one of the reasons why everything is going to hell.

    We are just primates like all the others, upright walking naked apes with huge swollen mutant brains that need a lot of fat and protein in order to function properly, and we should all panic because of all the primate populations that are collapsing all over the planet. This planet is rapidly becoming a much worse place for monkeys, and we're basically just mostly hairless monkeys wearing all kinds of artficial fur, it means that this planet is becoming a much worse place for US. I absolutely expect the human population to a billion or less within the next 150-200 years, we'll likely lose 2-3 billion within the coming 50 years. It might even be a billion more, that all depends on how long the rich countries can stop climate migrants from crossing their borders; the sooner nation-states just collapse and cease to exist, the more people will be able to migrate successfully, and the fewer will die.

    #Capitalism won't end in a glorious proletarian revolution, it will end in its own #collapse and that of all the civilisations it has permeated, and the reason for this is that, even if Marx didn't want to hear it, the basic ideas of Malthus and Darwin weren't wrong at all. There are limits to everything, and while it is possible to overshoot them for a while, doing so for a prolonged time inevitably ends in collapse. Humankind has been in overshoot for decades, and it's getting worse. With a saner economy than the malignant growth that is Capitalism, we might be able to feed 10 billion for a while, but the damage we have already done means that we won't be able to feed those 10 billion people forever anymore, and therefore, our numbers _will_ shrink. Everything that might be done to stop this collective madness would immediately plunge the world economy into chaos and make all the rich people much poorer, which is why they will do everything they can to install some kind of fascist or neo-feudal system before that happens. They don't care if six billion people die as long as they an stay filthy rich for a little while longer, and many even think they can become the cyberlords of the neo-feudal cyberpunk nightmare world. What they don't understand is that the cyberpunk world itself is still an early stage of the ongoing collapse, and that it won't end until all that's left is a bunch of post-collapse tribes, if we don't just go extinct altogether.

    tl;dr: There are hard limits. We have exceeded those limits. We have been damaging all kinds of natural systems on which we depend, like the biosphere and the climate. Chaos is escalating and will continue to escalate no matter what we do, and the behaviour of all kinds of complex systems will become much harder to predict, much less reliable.

    #πολυκρίσης #polykrisis #polycrisis

  4. @aurochs @condret @carnage4life The problem is that we also can't increase the overall complexity of our systems any longer, and we won't even be able to sustain our current complexity much longer because of all the cumulative damage "we" (the people of the industrialised countries) have done to the Earth's systems within the last roughly 250 years, which will take at least tens of thousands of years to heal.
    Don't trust economists, they don't even know about all the things the planet does for us for free, they don't live in the real world but in a ficticious universe where everything can be replaced with something else, and where the climate doesn't influence the economy very much because most of it takes place inside factory buildings. Even Marxist economists underestimate the economic impacts of the #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction and the escalating #ClimateChaos all around us, and non-Marxist economists are generally lost and shouldn't be taken seriously.

    Besides, economists tend to see the economy as something fundamental, while in the real world, it is a system of the highest order which only exists because of all the really fundamental systems underneath, and the fact that economists and their way of thinking about the world have gained utter control of the higher levels of politics is one of the reasons why everything is going to hell.

    We are just primates like all the others, upright walking naked apes with huge swollen mutant brains that need a lot of fat and protein in order to function properly, and we should all panic because of all the primate populations that are collapsing all over the planet. This planet is rapidly becoming a much worse place for monkeys, and we're basically just mostly hairless monkeys wearing all kinds of artficial fur, it means that this planet is becoming a much worse place for US. I absolutely expect the human population to a billion or less within the next 150-200 years, we'll likely lose 2-3 billion within the coming 50 years. It might even be a billion more, that all depends on how long the rich countries can stop climate migrants from crossing their borders; the sooner nation-states just collapse and cease to exist, the more people will be able to migrate successfully, and the fewer will die.

    #Capitalism won't end in a glorious proletarian revolution, it will end in its own #collapse and that of all the civilisations it has permeated, and the reason for this is that, even if Marx didn't want to hear it, the basic ideas of Malthus and Darwin weren't wrong at all. There are limits to everything, and while it is possible to overshoot them for a while, doing so for a prolonged time inevitably ends in collapse. Humankind has been in overshoot for decades, and it's getting worse. With a saner economy than the malignant growth that is Capitalism, we might be able to feed 10 billion for a while, but the damage we have already done means that we won't be able to feed those 10 billion people forever anymore, and therefore, our numbers _will_ shrink. Everything that might be done to stop this collective madness would immediately plunge the world economy into chaos and make all the rich people much poorer, which is why they will do everything they can to install some kind of fascist or neo-feudal system before that happens. They don't care if six billion people die as long as they an stay filthy rich for a little while longer, and many even think they can become the cyberlords of the neo-feudal cyberpunk nightmare world. What they don't understand is that the cyberpunk world itself is still an early stage of the ongoing collapse, and that it won't end until all that's left is a bunch of post-collapse tribes, if we don't just go extinct altogether.

    tl;dr: There are hard limits. We have exceeded those limits. We have been damaging all kinds of natural systems on which we depend, like the biosphere and the climate. Chaos is escalating and will continue to escalate no matter what we do, and the behaviour of all kinds of complex systems will become much harder to predict, much less reliable.

    #πολυκρίσης #polykrisis #polycrisis

  5. We can either have sustainability, or we can have a world in which everything is electronic and digital and connected to everything and "intelligent" and so on, where everybody drives around in an electric car, but which suddenly collapses, maybe next Thursday, maybe 25 years from now.
    The real problem is growth, which has become virtually impossible. We can't grow the economy anymore, the economy is already far too big for the planet, and whatever some marketing bastards tell you about #TheCloud or how digital devices are so bloody efficient, don't believe them.
    People only look at how much electricity devices use. They don't look at how much of which raw material goes into the production, what kind of dangerous chemicals are used in the process, where the energy for processing the materials comes from (a lot of it is heat, not electricity), and which ecosystems get damaged by which partial process in what kind of manner.
    We won't solve anything if we just replace internal combustion engines with electric motors and tanks with batteries, we'll just continue in our rape of Mother Earth, only on a slightly different path.

    Our entire way of life is unsustainable. There is no magical technology that can fix this; in fact, every tiny bit of technological complexity we add to the mix makes everything just more fragile, more likely to collapse. I don't believe there is any way we can avoid the upcoming End of the Industrial Age. However, there are still pathways on which our civilisation ends in a slow decline over the next two or three centuries, and there are others in which we just drop off a cliff and civilisation is over within a few decades, peaking in some kind of cataclysm.

    And we won't avoid the apocalypse if we continue to tell ourselves we can just consume our way out of the #Polycrisis by making "sustainable" consumer choices. You can't buy a better tomorrow, tomorrow will be bleak and ugly no matter what we do because today is already bleak and ugly, we just choose to hide it behind the curtain. Industrial civilisation is an attempt to build an entirely man-made world and keep the real world out. It has been fuelled by fossil carbon, beginning with coal, then adding oil and gas to the mix. It has been destroying the real world, the living world, all the fucking time. We didn't want to see the land around us suffer, so we created nature reserves and planted entire new "forests" (as if a hundred year old tree plantation could replace an ecosystem that had grown for a thousand years or many), stopped dumping toxic chemicals in the rivers, and just let that kind of shit happen where only poor people live because nobody cares about the poor, anyway, especially when they're not even White.

    We're living on the last scraps. We're dependent on huge masses of very rare elements and gigantic masses of more common ones, we're digging up entire landscapes to get all those sweet, sweet metals, and people keep dreaming about asteroid mining to avoid facing the fact we're running out. And at the same time, we let economists run our world. People who believe that the economy can exist even if the ecology collapses, because they totally ignore the simple fact that we are just monkey, we are upright walking storytelling naked apes, we have the same needs and wants and drives and emotions and instincts as bonobos and chimpanzees, and we're living on the same fucking planet where non-human primates are dying, their numbers are dwindling. Why isn't anybody worried about that? A planet that is bad for primates is bad for us because we are bloody primates.

    If you look closely at all the technology which is marketed as "sustainable", you will notice that if yu look at the entire production process, it is everything but. Using things that are a lot less bad than what we're doing today is a huge improvement, of course, but it means that we're still following the wrong road, just at a slower speed. The entire concepts around which our civilisation has organised itself are unsustainable, that's the bitter truth. This civilisation must inevitably end, one way or another. If we want it to end by slowly petering out while new civilisations grow from the widening cracks, we need a revolution which ends #Capitalism on a global scale ASAP, and which rapidly dismantles nation-states, replacing them with a federation of small collectives of humans that share the same landscape, collectives which will then figure out ways of repairing and restoring the ecosystem of which they are an essential part. Industrial design must change significantly, putting the longevity and repairability of complex artifacts at a very high priority in order to reduce overall production.

    Sorry for the long rant. #climatechaos #ecocide #extinction #biodiversitycollapse #collapse #mining #asteroidmining

  6. We can either have sustainability, or we can have a world in which everything is electronic and digital and connected to everything and "intelligent" and so on, where everybody drives around in an electric car, but which suddenly collapses, maybe next Thursday, maybe 25 years from now.
    The real problem is growth, which has become virtually impossible. We can't grow the economy anymore, the economy is already far too big for the planet, and whatever some marketing bastards tell you about #TheCloud or how digital devices are so bloody efficient, don't believe them.
    People only look at how much electricity devices use. They don't look at how much of which raw material goes into the production, what kind of dangerous chemicals are used in the process, where the energy for processing the materials comes from (a lot of it is heat, not electricity), and which ecosystems get damaged by which partial process in what kind of manner.
    We won't solve anything if we just replace internal combustion engines with electric motors and tanks with batteries, we'll just continue in our rape of Mother Earth, only on a slightly different path.

    Our entire way of life is unsustainable. There is no magical technology that can fix this; in fact, every tiny bit of technological complexity we add to the mix makes everything just more fragile, more likely to collapse. I don't believe there is any way we can avoid the upcoming End of the Industrial Age. However, there are still pathways on which our civilisation ends in a slow decline over the next two or three centuries, and there are others in which we just drop off a cliff and civilisation is over within a few decades, peaking in some kind of cataclysm.

    And we won't avoid the apocalypse if we continue to tell ourselves we can just consume our way out of the #Polycrisis by making "sustainable" consumer choices. You can't buy a better tomorrow, tomorrow will be bleak and ugly no matter what we do because today is already bleak and ugly, we just choose to hide it behind the curtain. Industrial civilisation is an attempt to build an entirely man-made world and keep the real world out. It has been fuelled by fossil carbon, beginning with coal, then adding oil and gas to the mix. It has been destroying the real world, the living world, all the fucking time. We didn't want to see the land around us suffer, so we created nature reserves and planted entire new "forests" (as if a hundred year old tree plantation could replace an ecosystem that had grown for a thousand years or many), stopped dumping toxic chemicals in the rivers, and just let that kind of shit happen where only poor people live because nobody cares about the poor, anyway, especially when they're not even White.

    We're living on the last scraps. We're dependent on huge masses of very rare elements and gigantic masses of more common ones, we're digging up entire landscapes to get all those sweet, sweet metals, and people keep dreaming about asteroid mining to avoid facing the fact we're running out. And at the same time, we let economists run our world. People who believe that the economy can exist even if the ecology collapses, because they totally ignore the simple fact that we are just monkey, we are upright walking storytelling naked apes, we have the same needs and wants and drives and emotions and instincts as bonobos and chimpanzees, and we're living on the same fucking planet where non-human primates are dying, their numbers are dwindling. Why isn't anybody worried about that? A planet that is bad for primates is bad for us because we are bloody primates.

    If you look closely at all the technology which is marketed as "sustainable", you will notice that if yu look at the entire production process, it is everything but. Using things that are a lot less bad than what we're doing today is a huge improvement, of course, but it means that we're still following the wrong road, just at a slower speed. The entire concepts around which our civilisation has organised itself are unsustainable, that's the bitter truth. This civilisation must inevitably end, one way or another. If we want it to end by slowly petering out while new civilisations grow from the widening cracks, we need a revolution which ends #Capitalism on a global scale ASAP, and which rapidly dismantles nation-states, replacing them with a federation of small collectives of humans that share the same landscape, collectives which will then figure out ways of repairing and restoring the ecosystem of which they are an essential part. Industrial design must change significantly, putting the longevity and repairability of complex artifacts at a very high priority in order to reduce overall production.

    Sorry for the long rant. #climatechaos #ecocide #extinction #biodiversitycollapse #collapse #mining #asteroidmining

  7. We can either have sustainability, or we can have a world in which everything is electronic and digital and connected to everything and "intelligent" and so on, where everybody drives around in an electric car, but which suddenly collapses, maybe next Thursday, maybe 25 years from now.
    The real problem is growth, which has become virtually impossible. We can't grow the economy anymore, the economy is already far too big for the planet, and whatever some marketing bastards tell you about #TheCloud or how digital devices are so bloody efficient, don't believe them.
    People only look at how much electricity devices use. They don't look at how much of which raw material goes into the production, what kind of dangerous chemicals are used in the process, where the energy for processing the materials comes from (a lot of it is heat, not electricity), and which ecosystems get damaged by which partial process in what kind of manner.
    We won't solve anything if we just replace internal combustion engines with electric motors and tanks with batteries, we'll just continue in our rape of Mother Earth, only on a slightly different path.

    Our entire way of life is unsustainable. There is no magical technology that can fix this; in fact, every tiny bit of technological complexity we add to the mix makes everything just more fragile, more likely to collapse. I don't believe there is any way we can avoid the upcoming End of the Industrial Age. However, there are still pathways on which our civilisation ends in a slow decline over the next two or three centuries, and there are others in which we just drop off a cliff and civilisation is over within a few decades, peaking in some kind of cataclysm.

    And we won't avoid the apocalypse if we continue to tell ourselves we can just consume our way out of the #Polycrisis by making "sustainable" consumer choices. You can't buy a better tomorrow, tomorrow will be bleak and ugly no matter what we do because today is already bleak and ugly, we just choose to hide it behind the curtain. Industrial civilisation is an attempt to build an entirely man-made world and keep the real world out. It has been fuelled by fossil carbon, beginning with coal, then adding oil and gas to the mix. It has been destroying the real world, the living world, all the fucking time. We didn't want to see the land around us suffer, so we created nature reserves and planted entire new "forests" (as if a hundred year old tree plantation could replace an ecosystem that had grown for a thousand years or many), stopped dumping toxic chemicals in the rivers, and just let that kind of shit happen where only poor people live because nobody cares about the poor, anyway, especially when they're not even White.

    We're living on the last scraps. We're dependent on huge masses of very rare elements and gigantic masses of more common ones, we're digging up entire landscapes to get all those sweet, sweet metals, and people keep dreaming about asteroid mining to avoid facing the fact we're running out. And at the same time, we let economists run our world. People who believe that the economy can exist even if the ecology collapses, because they totally ignore the simple fact that we are just monkey, we are upright walking storytelling naked apes, we have the same needs and wants and drives and emotions and instincts as bonobos and chimpanzees, and we're living on the same fucking planet where non-human primates are dying, their numbers are dwindling. Why isn't anybody worried about that? A planet that is bad for primates is bad for us because we are bloody primates.

    If you look closely at all the technology which is marketed as "sustainable", you will notice that if yu look at the entire production process, it is everything but. Using things that are a lot less bad than what we're doing today is a huge improvement, of course, but it means that we're still following the wrong road, just at a slower speed. The entire concepts around which our civilisation has organised itself are unsustainable, that's the bitter truth. This civilisation must inevitably end, one way or another. If we want it to end by slowly petering out while new civilisations grow from the widening cracks, we need a revolution which ends #Capitalism on a global scale ASAP, and which rapidly dismantles nation-states, replacing them with a federation of small collectives of humans that share the same landscape, collectives which will then figure out ways of repairing and restoring the ecosystem of which they are an essential part. Industrial design must change significantly, putting the longevity and repairability of complex artifacts at a very high priority in order to reduce overall production.

    Sorry for the long rant. #climatechaos #ecocide #extinction #biodiversitycollapse #collapse #mining #asteroidmining

  8. We can either have sustainability, or we can have a world in which everything is electronic and digital and connected to everything and "intelligent" and so on, where everybody drives around in an electric car, but which suddenly collapses, maybe next Thursday, maybe 25 years from now.
    The real problem is growth, which has become virtually impossible. We can't grow the economy anymore, the economy is already far too big for the planet, and whatever some marketing bastards tell you about #TheCloud or how digital devices are so bloody efficient, don't believe them.
    People only look at how much electricity devices use. They don't look at how much of which raw material goes into the production, what kind of dangerous chemicals are used in the process, where the energy for processing the materials comes from (a lot of it is heat, not electricity), and which ecosystems get damaged by which partial process in what kind of manner.
    We won't solve anything if we just replace internal combustion engines with electric motors and tanks with batteries, we'll just continue in our rape of Mother Earth, only on a slightly different path.

    Our entire way of life is unsustainable. There is no magical technology that can fix this; in fact, every tiny bit of technological complexity we add to the mix makes everything just more fragile, more likely to collapse. I don't believe there is any way we can avoid the upcoming End of the Industrial Age. However, there are still pathways on which our civilisation ends in a slow decline over the next two or three centuries, and there are others in which we just drop off a cliff and civilisation is over within a few decades, peaking in some kind of cataclysm.

    And we won't avoid the apocalypse if we continue to tell ourselves we can just consume our way out of the #Polycrisis by making "sustainable" consumer choices. You can't buy a better tomorrow, tomorrow will be bleak and ugly no matter what we do because today is already bleak and ugly, we just choose to hide it behind the curtain. Industrial civilisation is an attempt to build an entirely man-made world and keep the real world out. It has been fuelled by fossil carbon, beginning with coal, then adding oil and gas to the mix. It has been destroying the real world, the living world, all the fucking time. We didn't want to see the land around us suffer, so we created nature reserves and planted entire new "forests" (as if a hundred year old tree plantation could replace an ecosystem that had grown for a thousand years or many), stopped dumping toxic chemicals in the rivers, and just let that kind of shit happen where only poor people live because nobody cares about the poor, anyway, especially when they're not even White.

    We're living on the last scraps. We're dependent on huge masses of very rare elements and gigantic masses of more common ones, we're digging up entire landscapes to get all those sweet, sweet metals, and people keep dreaming about asteroid mining to avoid facing the fact we're running out. And at the same time, we let economists run our world. People who believe that the economy can exist even if the ecology collapses, because they totally ignore the simple fact that we are just monkey, we are upright walking storytelling naked apes, we have the same needs and wants and drives and emotions and instincts as bonobos and chimpanzees, and we're living on the same fucking planet where non-human primates are dying, their numbers are dwindling. Why isn't anybody worried about that? A planet that is bad for primates is bad for us because we are bloody primates.

    If you look closely at all the technology which is marketed as "sustainable", you will notice that if yu look at the entire production process, it is everything but. Using things that are a lot less bad than what we're doing today is a huge improvement, of course, but it means that we're still following the wrong road, just at a slower speed. The entire concepts around which our civilisation has organised itself are unsustainable, that's the bitter truth. This civilisation must inevitably end, one way or another. If we want it to end by slowly petering out while new civilisations grow from the widening cracks, we need a revolution which ends #Capitalism on a global scale ASAP, and which rapidly dismantles nation-states, replacing them with a federation of small collectives of humans that share the same landscape, collectives which will then figure out ways of repairing and restoring the ecosystem of which they are an essential part. Industrial design must change significantly, putting the longevity and repairability of complex artifacts at a very high priority in order to reduce overall production.

    Sorry for the long rant. #climatechaos #ecocide #extinction #biodiversitycollapse #collapse #mining #asteroidmining

  9. We can either have sustainability, or we can have a world in which everything is electronic and digital and connected to everything and "intelligent" and so on, where everybody drives around in an electric car, but which suddenly collapses, maybe next Thursday, maybe 25 years from now.
    The real problem is growth, which has become virtually impossible. We can't grow the economy anymore, the economy is already far too big for the planet, and whatever some marketing bastards tell you about #TheCloud or how digital devices are so bloody efficient, don't believe them.
    People only look at how much electricity devices use. They don't look at how much of which raw material goes into the production, what kind of dangerous chemicals are used in the process, where the energy for processing the materials comes from (a lot of it is heat, not electricity), and which ecosystems get damaged by which partial process in what kind of manner.
    We won't solve anything if we just replace internal combustion engines with electric motors and tanks with batteries, we'll just continue in our rape of Mother Earth, only on a slightly different path.

    Our entire way of life is unsustainable. There is no magical technology that can fix this; in fact, every tiny bit of technological complexity we add to the mix makes everything just more fragile, more likely to collapse. I don't believe there is any way we can avoid the upcoming End of the Industrial Age. However, there are still pathways on which our civilisation ends in a slow decline over the next two or three centuries, and there are others in which we just drop off a cliff and civilisation is over within a few decades, peaking in some kind of cataclysm.

    And we won't avoid the apocalypse if we continue to tell ourselves we can just consume our way out of the #Polycrisis by making "sustainable" consumer choices. You can't buy a better tomorrow, tomorrow will be bleak and ugly no matter what we do because today is already bleak and ugly, we just choose to hide it behind the curtain. Industrial civilisation is an attempt to build an entirely man-made world and keep the real world out. It has been fuelled by fossil carbon, beginning with coal, then adding oil and gas to the mix. It has been destroying the real world, the living world, all the fucking time. We didn't want to see the land around us suffer, so we created nature reserves and planted entire new "forests" (as if a hundred year old tree plantation could replace an ecosystem that had grown for a thousand years or many), stopped dumping toxic chemicals in the rivers, and just let that kind of shit happen where only poor people live because nobody cares about the poor, anyway, especially when they're not even White.

    We're living on the last scraps. We're dependent on huge masses of very rare elements and gigantic masses of more common ones, we're digging up entire landscapes to get all those sweet, sweet metals, and people keep dreaming about asteroid mining to avoid facing the fact we're running out. And at the same time, we let economists run our world. People who believe that the economy can exist even if the ecology collapses, because they totally ignore the simple fact that we are just monkey, we are upright walking storytelling naked apes, we have the same needs and wants and drives and emotions and instincts as bonobos and chimpanzees, and we're living on the same fucking planet where non-human primates are dying, their numbers are dwindling. Why isn't anybody worried about that? A planet that is bad for primates is bad for us because we are bloody primates.

    If you look closely at all the technology which is marketed as "sustainable", you will notice that if yu look at the entire production process, it is everything but. Using things that are a lot less bad than what we're doing today is a huge improvement, of course, but it means that we're still following the wrong road, just at a slower speed. The entire concepts around which our civilisation has organised itself are unsustainable, that's the bitter truth. This civilisation must inevitably end, one way or another. If we want it to end by slowly petering out while new civilisations grow from the widening cracks, we need a revolution which ends #Capitalism on a global scale ASAP, and which rapidly dismantles nation-states, replacing them with a federation of small collectives of humans that share the same landscape, collectives which will then figure out ways of repairing and restoring the ecosystem of which they are an essential part. Industrial design must change significantly, putting the longevity and repairability of complex artifacts at a very high priority in order to reduce overall production.

    Sorry for the long rant. #climatechaos #ecocide #extinction #biodiversitycollapse #collapse #mining #asteroidmining

  10. Vor wenigen Stunden wurde ein verheerender Bericht veröffentlicht, der aufgezeigt, daß die Beobachtungsdaten zur #Klimakatastrophe eine Beschleunigung der Klimaveränderung aufzeigen. Die Vorhersagen des @ipcc.bsky.social AR6 werden übertroffen!

    #DiagramsOfDoom
    #BiodiversityCollapse
    [1]

  11. @climate.noaa.gov
    zeigt auf, dass die CO2-Konzentration in der Atmosphäre weiterhin rapide ansteigt.

    Das brennende Auto rast auf mit Vollgas auf die Todesklippe zu. Diese Zahlen offenbaren die Spuren der Umweltzerstörung.
    [3]

    #DoD
    #DiagramsOfDoom
    #ClimateCatastrophe
    #BiodiversityCollapse

  12. As a result of the failed combat against #ClimateCatastrophe and #BiodiversityCollapse, the numbers of
    @copernicusecmwf.bsky.social

    tell us that we are still on a path that can be considered a “worst-case scenario.”

    Get real, folks. That the way the civilisation breakdown looks like.

    [4/FIN]

  13. @climate.noaa.gov
    is telling us, that the the CO2 level is still increasing with high speed.

    The burning car races toward the cliff of death. Pedal to the metal. These figures reveal the signature of environmental destruction.

    [3]

    #DoD
    #DiagramsOfDoom
    #ClimateCatastrophe
    #BiodiversityCollapse

  14. #EMBER is telling us, that the usage of coal and gas for global electricity production is increasing towards new heights every month.

    The strategy 'peak fossil' has failed completely to combat #ClimateCatastrophe & #BiodiversityCollapse.

    #DoD
    #DiagramsOfDoom

    [2]

  15. #DoD - #DiagramsOfDoom

    The world is heading towards #ClimateCatastrophe and #BiodiversityCollapse without any speed limits. The data are crystal clear.

    The threat to civilization is so obvious that only the will to destroy prevents us from implementing the necessary changes.

    [1]

  16. I grow increasingly disengaged from politics in this country. I’m just tired of being lectured and demonized.

    Here’s why…

    1. IT’S ALWAYS OUR FAULT
    The left always gets the blame and shame for the situation we’re in despite having exactly zero representation in any of the three branches of the federal government.

    Despite the claim that “Democracy is on the ballot,” we’re shouted at for even the slightest hint of exercising our democratic power through dissent or reluctance to vote for the candidate we are instructed to support, as opposed to supporting the one we most align with.

    It is expected that our votes should automatically go to the Center-Right Democrats. When we don’t fall in line, we’re accused of being as bad as the right wing or secret agents of Russia.

    No genuinely held beliefs or concerns are permissible. We could not possibly have a legitimate grievances.

    So, for the crime of not blindly falling in line, all losses are our fault.

    2. WE “DON’T HAVE A PLAN”
    We’re constantly criticized for not having a “realistic plan” and are thus expected to adopt their plan. This belief that the left has no plan is widely shared despite the existence of a century of leftist theory. The truth is they either don’t know, understand, or like our plan.

    But the irony is too much because the people lecturing us often have only one plan: keep believing that the same system of two party electoral politics that got us here, is capable of saving us.

    They insist to us, without any evidence, that this time will be different. That these candidates can be pushed to the left. How, you ask?

    Maaaaaagic 👋🪄

    They certainly don’t agree with any method we might choose to push them left.

    They scream at you if you dare criticize their candidate. They suggest we're being radical or unrealistic for expecting their candidate to refrain from sending police to violently break up protests, arming a nation state committing genocide, or siding with capitalists over the unions. After all, it's an election year!

    The left does have a plan, but it requires principled collective action and that won’t come from people whose only plan is to vote and hope.

    3. WE ARE UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE
    It’s always that the left insists on perfection and purity tests. It’s our obstruction that is the problem, you see.

    Things would already be fixed by now if we would just accept tiny incremental changes instead of insisting that we meaningfully and immediately address problems that cause people to suffer and die.

    We’re shamed for standing on our principles because it's inconvenient to the campaign. We’re scolded for leveraging what little electoral power we hold through voting. The “right” thing to do, they argue, is to compromise because "THIS election is too important."

    But we’ve learned that compromise is a one way street. What they mean is give them our vote, and get nothing in return.

    “Come on bro, just ignore the genocide a little longer.”

    “We’ll get healthcare someday, just not today. There’s just no money left cuz we just approved a trillion dollar military budget.”

    “I know the cops are increasingly militarized and violent, and cop cities are being built all around the country but defunding them is bad branding and we gotta watch out for fascism.”

    A TEMPORARY SOLUTION…
    For all of this frustration, it can all be temporarily mended in the short term with a few simple shifts...

    Acknowledge our concerns and stop trying to gaslight us into believing we’re crazy for being concerned.

    You don’t have to agree with us. Just stop trying to make us feel crazy or morally inferior for our deeply held beliefs, like:
    - wanting universal healthcare
    - stopping the militarization of cops
    - wanting an end to a genocide that our tax dollars are arming and funding
    - believing that actual meaningful action on climate change is important
    - etc

    Because if you can’t at least do that, how can you expect us to fall in line and vote for your candidate, to save the system we don’t believe in? What do we even have in common at that point?

    I'm just ranting at this point and I'll probably delete this later but I'm just tired of being in the group that gets blamed for everything when all we want is a kinder world with more equity and less violence.

    Focus on the Nazis and maybe spend some time deprogramming yourself from what you've been told about the left.

    And for the record, before anyone tries to educate or reminds me of the stakes...

    I'm in a swing state, most likely voting for Harris, and keenly aware of the unique threat that Trump represents.


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  17. I grow increasingly disengaged from politics in this country. I’m just tired of being lectured and demonized.

    Here’s why…

    1. IT’S ALWAYS OUR FAULT
    The left always gets the blame and shame for the situation we’re in despite having exactly zero representation in any of the three branches of the federal government.

    Despite the claim that “Democracy is on the ballot,” we’re shouted at for even the slightest hint of exercising our democratic power through dissent or reluctance to vote for the candidate we are instructed to support, as opposed to supporting the one we most align with.

    It is expected that our votes should automatically go to the Center-Right Democrats. When we don’t fall in line, we’re accused of being as bad as the right wing or secret agents of Russia.

    No genuinely held beliefs or concerns are permissible. We could not possibly have a legitimate grievances.

    So, for the crime of not blindly falling in line, all losses are our fault.

    2. WE “DON’T HAVE A PLAN”
    We’re constantly criticized for not having a “realistic plan” and are thus expected to adopt their plan. This belief that the left has no plan is widely shared despite the existence of a century of leftist theory. The truth is they either don’t know, understand, or like our plan.

    But the irony is too much because the people lecturing us often have only one plan: keep believing that the same system of two party electoral politics that got us here, is capable of saving us.

    They insist to us, without any evidence, that this time will be different. That these candidates can be pushed to the left. How, you ask?

    Maaaaaagic 👋🪄

    They certainly don’t agree with any method we might choose to push them left.

    They scream at you if you dare criticize their candidate. They suggest we're being radical or unrealistic for expecting their candidate to refrain from sending police to violently break up protests, arming a nation state committing genocide, or siding with capitalists over the unions. After all, it's an election year!

    The left does have a plan, but it requires principled collective action and that won’t come from people whose only plan is to vote and hope.

    3. WE ARE UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE
    It’s always that the left insists on perfection and purity tests. It’s our obstruction that is the problem, you see.

    Things would already be fixed by now if we would just accept tiny incremental changes instead of insisting that we meaningfully and immediately address problems that cause people to suffer and die.

    We’re shamed for standing on our principles because it's inconvenient to the campaign. We’re scolded for leveraging what little electoral power we hold through voting. The “right” thing to do, they argue, is to compromise because "THIS election is too important."

    But we’ve learned that compromise is a one way street. What they mean is give them our vote, and get nothing in return.

    “Come on bro, just ignore the genocide a little longer.”

    “We’ll get healthcare someday, just not today. There’s just no money left cuz we just approved a trillion dollar military budget.”

    “I know the cops are increasingly militarized and violent, and cop cities are being built all around the country but defunding them is bad branding and we gotta watch out for fascism.”

    A TEMPORARY SOLUTION…
    For all of this frustration, it can all be temporarily mended in the short term with a few simple shifts...

    Acknowledge our concerns and stop trying to gaslight us into believing we’re crazy for being concerned.

    You don’t have to agree with us. Just stop trying to make us feel crazy or morally inferior for our deeply held beliefs, like:
    - wanting universal healthcare
    - stopping the militarization of cops
    - wanting an end to a genocide that our tax dollars are arming and funding
    - believing that actual meaningful action on climate change is important
    - etc

    Because if you can’t at least do that, how can you expect us to fall in line and vote for your candidate, to save the system we don’t believe in? What do we even have in common at that point?

    I'm just ranting at this point and I'll probably delete this later but I'm just tired of being in the group that gets blamed for everything when all we want is a kinder world with more equity and less violence.

    Focus on the Nazis and maybe spend some time deprogramming yourself from what you've been told about the left.

    And for the record, before anyone tries to educate or reminds me of the stakes...

    I'm in a swing state, most likely voting for Harris, and keenly aware of the unique threat that Trump represents.


    Tags for search:
    #politics #USPolitics #GOP #GQP #Dems #Democrats #Republicans #fascism #FascismInAmerica #fascism #fascists #FascismInAmerica #capitalism #LateStageCapitalism #leftist #leftism #socialism #communism #guillotines #ClimateChange #climate #BiodiversityCollapse #GlobalWarming

  18. @tri_becca90 We're not all dead if we cross +2K of warming or anything, but many, many of us will die when civilisation collapses due to #ClimateChaos --and nobody really knows at what point exactly that will happen. It's not so much how much warmer the planet gets as how fast that happens--but since we're in a multidimensional polycrisis, #GlobalWarming isn't the only thing that's about to kill us. #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction is just as bad if not worse.

  19. @tri_becca90 We're not all dead if we cross +2K of warming or anything, but many, many of us will die when civilisation collapses due to #ClimateChaos --and nobody really knows at what point exactly that will happen. It's not so much how much warmer the planet gets as how fast that happens--but since we're in a multidimensional polycrisis, #GlobalWarming isn't the only thing that's about to kill us. #BiodiversityCollapse aka the #SixthExtinction is just as bad if not worse.

  20. once again, if you love wild #birds, supporting the animal agriculture industry is a direct contradiction.

    on second-generation anti-coagulants used as rodenticide and the push to ban them:

    > If the hawk ingests enough poison, it too faces a grisly death. Its internal organs become puddled with blood that just won’t clot. It bleeds out of its mouth. Some hawks have drowned in backyard swimming pools as they try to satisfy their unquenchable thirst.

    what the fuck are we doing???

    > One of the largest loopholes is the agricultural exemption. In 2007, the EPA proposed restricting the agricultural use of secondgeneration anticoagulants. But the agency’s 2008 Risk Mitigation Decision states that their proposal was met by an outcry from “poultry and livestock producer groups indicating that the proposed requirement would [constitute] a significant burden.” Based on those comments, the EPA concluded that “the benefits of the use of second-generation anticoagulants by poultry and livestock producers outweigh the risks.”

    not to mention how dreadfully inhumane they are to rodents.

    allaboutbirds.org/news/raptors

    #biodiversity #biodiversitycollapse #climate #climatecrisis #birding #vegan

  21. The incentives and values of capitalism will destroy countless species and cause largely avoidable mass suffering and death for humanity. But, please, go on about how "capitalism is the best economic system ever conceived that has brought millions out of poverty" -- as if it doesn't literally create poverty and feed off of it.

    youtube.com/watch?v=oeWyARGkFD


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  22. The incentives and values of capitalism will destroy countless species and cause largely avoidable mass suffering and death for humanity. But, please, go on about how "capitalism is the best economic system ever conceived that has brought millions out of poverty" -- as if it doesn't literally create poverty and feed off of it.

    youtube.com/watch?v=oeWyARGkFD


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  23. “If we really are approaching the end of this phase of organized human civilization, and are virtually guaranteed to find ourselves in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, wading through floating oceans of plastic, experiencing severe droughts and food shortages, and collecting rain water that is no longer safe to drink, should we have a different strategy for Threads than we did for Twitter?

    This is exactly what I mean when I say that smart businesses need to have the courage to ask the tough questions.”

    Staff Appreciation Event at the End of the World - Becoming Superhuman

    #ClimateChange #BiodiversityCollapse #BusinessStrategy #Threads jeffgibbard.com/?p=13843&previ

  24. Disassociation is the space between appreciating all of the good things in my life and recognizing the horror show going on around me, present and future.

    It’s what I do/where I go when I can’t hold the duality/contradiction.

    ⬆️ I love my family and my work.

    ⬇️ Yet, we live in an increasingly dangerous and fascist country where late stage capitalism threatens to rip society apart at the seams.

    ⬆️ I’m excited to see who my children become.

    ⬇️ Yet I fear the world they’re being handed. Climate change, bio diversity collapse, the march toward fascist criminalization and genocide for anyone who is not an active agent of white supremacy.

    I’m always feeling optimistic and hopeful while being dragged down by misery and rage.

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