#contentnation — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #contentnation, aggregated by home.social.
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Even more shocking is the revelation that somehow, even private DMs from Mastodon were mirrored on their public site and searchable. How this is even possible is beyond me, as DM’s are ostensibly only between two parties, and the message itself was sent from two hackers.town
WHAT THE FUCK? There should have been no way that #Maven was able to read DMs, even if they're poorly coded (should be importing Public posts only) and the DMs are not E2EE.
I guess the common wisdom of not trusting the privacy of #Mastodon DMs is very correct all along. :koishtare:
Oh, and I was skeptical of whether this is block worthy (don't want another #ContentNation or #Awakari incident again), but this definitely is #fediblock worthy considering their casual response. Reading someone else's DMs is never acceptable. This flaw should've been acknowledged and reported to Mastodon (and perhaps other #fediverse developers too just in case).
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RE: https://wedistribute.org/2024/06/maven-mastodon-posts/ -
Yet another new #ActivityPub implementation harassed out of the #fediverse because of privacy-freaks mistaking an AP first-class citizen for a "scraper". I guess fedi has not learned from the #ContentNation incident at all. Or maybe they don't really care, because it's not the "normal social media way", whatever the fuck that means. :ablobcateyeroll:
If these privacy-freaks are really serious about their "opt-in" they would've already suspended all instances of #Misskey, #Sharkey, and every other -key fork (I think #Iceshrimp, #Catodon, and #Firefish still has it but please correct me if I'm wrong) that has the "proxy account" feature (you can see this with @[email protected] for example). Because it is fundamentally the same damn thing as #Awakari's AP implementation does. They're both a kind of #followbot which will only follow you if someone from that instance or service needs a feed of your posts and nobody else has requested for a feed before.
But they won't suspend them because they're "mainstream" and "do it the normal social media way". Because of course, the fediverse is all about social media and microblogs, and if I don't understand how this new implementation works it must be dangerous! And Russian!!
Don't like follow bots? Fine, block them, announce if you feel like it and if nobody else who you can boost has done it yet. But don't mislead #fediadmins by saying it is a "scraper" and it "violates the GDPR" and all kinds of psuedolegal bullshit. You're just showing your ignorance. And don't be a fucking cop by reporting them to their ISP because that just makes you an asshole. :reimu_sigh:
#fediblockmeta #fediversemeta
RE: https://mastodon.social/users/akurilov/statuses/112588091709651901 -
Tell me where #Awakari is "selling" your content. Because it certainly doesn't look like it.
It's just a push RSS on steroids, which allows you to pull from multiple sources (e.g. #RSS / #Atom / #JSON feeds, #Telegram channels, websites without RSS, #fediverse accounts via #ActivityPub) and then push all of them in a single medium (currently via Telegram messages AFAICS). That's literally it.
The paid option is there for people who need a lot of pull sources. But otherwise if you just need 10 it is free. Which is fair enough. No service is really gratis.
So again, can we not have another #ContentNation incident, please? :reimu_sigh:
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RE: https://social.beaware.live/users/BeAware/statuses/112414184170997426 -
It's not a #scraper. It is its own #ActivityPub implementation like #ContentNation was. Can we please not have another Content Nation incident please. :koishtare:
cc @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
#Awakari #fediblockmeta
RE: https://mastodon.scot/users/gunchleoc/statuses/112311149744744675 -
A rant about social protocols
Introduction
Recently, I read an article that talked about that someone, tried to do a new platform called “Content Nation”. This is a German platform that allows people to write content (to be honest, I don’t really know what it does.) and publish it. And recently, the creators tried to implement the ActivityPub protocol. They did so by using the official documentation provided by @w3c.
The problem was that the last time the official documentation was updated, was in 23 January 2018. So, this means that a lot of new standards that other platforms like Mastodon, Misskey, etc... use are not written in there. But this isn’t the fault of the service developers, this is the fault of the W3C that hasn’t been an update to the protocol officially to support the new standards in the industry such as Webfinger, SharedInbox, Privacy Scopes, and Opt-Out for Search…
The thing, is that this led to a lot of people thinking that this site was some kind of scraper and started making the crawler crash or, even worse, someone tried to load CP inside the platform.
BlueSky
Recently, BlueSky opened its AT protocol for everyone to use and federate, due to this, there has been a bit of a discussion inside these platforms. This made me think, why did BlueSky feel the necessity to make another protocol? If there is one already, why do we need another one that competes, wasn’t the objective of protocols to allow interoperability?
So, I did a bit of digging and I found two things. The first one is that they wanted so solve a few things that AP does not support officially (here are the main points, not all of them):Account portability. A person’s online identity should not be owned by corporations with no accountability to their users. With the AT Protocol, you can move your account from one provider to another without losing any of your data or social graph.
A lot of these problems are already present on ActivityPub for a long time. The account portability of ActivityPub let’s say it’s not intuitive. You have to do a lot of things and even then, there are some things like the posts that you make or the favourites that don’t transfer (in the case of favourites you need to transfer them manually, the same for blocks and mutes).
Algorithmic choice. Algorithms dictate what we see and who we can reach. We must have control over our algorithms if we're going to trust in our online spaces. The AT Protocol includes an open algorithms mode so users have more control over their experience.
Also, right now 99% if not all software that uses ActivityPub, does not have an algorithm that orders content for you to see, but shows you everything in chronological order (I don’t know if its intentional or if it’s a limit of AP) and the only thing you have to discover topics is trough hashtags that maybe someone forgot to tag.
Furthermore, not to mention that on ActivityPub, you are at the mercy of the server moderators, so this means that if you know someone that is on an instance that is blocked by yours, you won’t be able to talk to them unless you change the instance, which in a way it’s not very decentralized.
The other protocols
By doing research, I realized that there are a lot of other protocols (for example Nostr) that have its own implementation of things maybe there are some that are bridged and other not.
Such protocols have different features, for example Nostr allows you to suggest content edit to other people’s posts, move your content easily, etc.
How can we solve this?
First, we have to know why all these other companies make their own. I must say, that most of them probably do because AP does not allow customization of posts or the adding of new features for everyone and the fact that it’s not been updated for 6 whole years makes matters worse.
What the developers want, is a protocol that lets them create wherever they want and add everything the want, for example the edit thing that I said the Nostr supports, the only way to add it to AP, would be or only on your software or find another software that is willing to implement that feature, the rest of the market is left behind as well as the users that depending on what it is, they don’t understand.
My solution to this problem would be to add some kind of per user plugin system directly to the AP that allows for devs to implement add-ons that do with the JSON strings that add buttons or scripts at least to send and receive data. As well as to add some kind of CSS support for the posts and profiles. Of course, the point of these is that if you make a platform, and you are the only one using these characteristics, well… but in case that everybody wants to use it and everybody makes their own plugins it would be chaos.
For this, the solution I proposed would be like something you add while the W3C updates the protocol to support a very popular feature. #socialprotocols #nostr #activitypub #W3C #ATprotocol #rant #blogpost #ContentNation -
The Fediverse HOA strikes yet again.
#ContentNation #FediForum #Mastodon https://cosocial.ca/@evan/112123451378889685
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We're discussion #ContentNation at #Fediforum. I really appreciate this comprehensive article at WeDistribute about the topic:
https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/
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#ContentNation Backlash Highlights Mastodon's Toxicity
"Over the years, #Mastodon’s user culture has become incredibly insular and hostile towards outsiders. Despite repeated claims of “People are just nicer here!” and “Everyone is just so welcoming!”, often those preaching about #privacy and #consent are the first to harass anyone doing something they don’t like. Reactions have extended to #doxxing, death threats, #DDoS attacks, and apparently, distribution of CSAM."
https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/
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The #ContentNation situation is a dumpster fire for the #Fediverse. What would you do if you were building something, people misunderstood what it was, and things escalated to a point that someone loaded CSAM onto your server for the sake of reporting it?
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There seems to be some discourse about #ContentNation being some kind of Fedi scraper, and I think people are overreacting.
I'm not going to link to the thread, but some people were freaking out because they put in their handles into a search field and saw their profiles and posts there. It's like they didn't realize they were literally performing a Webfinger request, and were just looking at some cached data of public statuses.