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@mzar @_bapt_ excellent!

A fix for single user mode with csh/tcsh would be nice:

<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260875>

#FreeBSD #csh #tcsh

@mzar @_bapt_ excellent!

A fix for single user mode with csh/tcsh would be nice:

<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260875>

#FreeBSD #csh #tcsh

Preparing an engineering-focused presentation entitled "The Zen of Shell Scripting" for an internal talk at work. Question for seasoned Shell programmers: What would you have liked to know when you first started out? Interested in both big ideas and sharp edges that come with Shell scripting.

#shell #unix #linux #posix #bash #zsh #tcsh #ksh #fish

Preparing an engineering-focused presentation entitled "The Zen of Shell Scripting" for an internal talk at work. Question for seasoned Shell programmers: What would you have liked to know when you first started out? Interested in both big ideas and sharp edges that come with Shell scripting.

#shell #unix #linux #posix #bash #zsh #tcsh #ksh #fish

If I've never seen the codebase, which #Linux shell has the easiest code to read and understand? Specifically I want to isolate the code for *parsing* the command line syntax.

All #POSIX-compliant (or close enough) shells welcome! I probably don't know them all but off the top of my head:

#bash
#dash
#fish (sorry for the spam, marine life enthusiasts)
#zsh
#ksh
#tcsh & #csh I think?

#shell #shells #foss #code #commandline

#Poll: Curious about people's attitudes towards shell scripting.

Two part question:

1. Are you a DEVeloper (or working in a development-heavy role), OTHER-IT worker (such as a sysadmin, architect, anything in a non-development-heavy role), or NON-IT (accountant, doctor, whatever)
2. Do you HATE shell scripting, are you INDIFferent towards (or ignorant of) shell scripting, or do you LOVE it?

#Unix #UnixShell #ShellScript #ShellScripting #POSIX #PosixShell #sh #bash #zsh #csh #tcsh #ksh #pdksh #oksh #mksh

#Poll: Curious about people's attitudes towards shell scripting.

Two part question:

1. Are you a DEVeloper (or working in a development-heavy role), OTHER-IT worker (such as a sysadmin, architect, anything in a non-development-heavy role), or NON-IT (accountant, doctor, whatever)
2. Do you HATE shell scripting, are you INDIFferent towards (or ignorant of) shell scripting, or do you LOVE it?

#Unix #UnixShell #ShellScript #ShellScripting #POSIX #PosixShell #sh #bash #zsh #csh #tcsh #ksh #pdksh #oksh #mksh

#Poll: Curious about people's attitudes towards shell scripting.

Two part question:

1. Are you a DEVeloper (or working in a development-heavy role), OTHER-IT worker (such as a sysadmin, architect, anything in a non-development-heavy role), or NON-IT (accountant, doctor, whatever)
2. Do you HATE shell scripting, are you INDIFferent towards (or ignorant of) shell scripting, or do you LOVE it?

#Unix #UnixShell #ShellScript #ShellScripting #POSIX #PosixShell #sh #bash #zsh #csh #tcsh #ksh #pdksh #oksh #mksh

#Poll: Curious about people's attitudes towards shell scripting.

Two part question:

1. Are you a DEVeloper (or working in a development-heavy role), OTHER-IT worker (such as a sysadmin, architect, anything in a non-development-heavy role), or NON-IT (accountant, doctor, whatever)
2. Do you HATE shell scripting, are you INDIFferent towards (or ignorant of) shell scripting, or do you LOVE it?

#Unix #UnixShell #ShellScript #ShellScripting #POSIX #PosixShell #sh #bash #zsh #csh #tcsh #ksh #pdksh #oksh #mksh

Linus Torvalds has proper motivated reasons for really disliking file systems without a case sensitivity.

Read this with me from the kernel lkml, regarding bcachefs.

Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs fixes for 6.15-rc4 - Linus Torvalds
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wja[email protected]/

🖋️ #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #git #Linux #lkml #POSIX #FOSS #100daysofCode #640DaysOfCode #coding #1024DaysOfCode #github #programming #Torvalds #filesystem

Linus Torvalds has proper motivated reasons for really disliking file systems without a case sensitivity.

Read this with me from the kernel lkml, regarding bcachefs.

Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs fixes for 6.15-rc4 - Linus Torvalds
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wja[email protected]/

🖋️ #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #git #Linux #lkml #POSIX #FOSS #100daysofCode #640DaysOfCode #coding #1024DaysOfCode #github #programming #Torvalds #filesystem

Linus Torvalds has coded git two decades ago.

Learn about why how who and where here

https://youtu.be/sCr_gb8rdEI?si=s8tDVh1e8dBTGWkJ

🖋️ #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #git #Linux #POSIX #FOSS #100daysofCode #640DaysOfCode #coding #1024DaysOfCode #github #programming

Linus Torvalds has coded git two decades ago.

Learn about why how who and where here

https://youtu.be/sCr_gb8rdEI?si=s8tDVh1e8dBTGWkJ

🖋️ #bash #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #git #Linux #POSIX #FOSS #100daysofCode #640DaysOfCode #coding #1024DaysOfCode #github #programming

@jimbolaya

I've installed the statically linked version. Now I rock the latest version of ffmpeg

#AskFediverse #ffmpeg #programming #Linux #KDE #MXLinux #iso #bash #tcsh #ksh #zsh #sh

@jimbolaya

I've installed the statically linked version. Now I rock the latest version of ffmpeg

#AskFediverse #ffmpeg #programming #Linux #KDE #MXLinux #iso #bash #tcsh #ksh #zsh #sh

This error in MX Linux KDE edition is now annoying

I cant work without ffmpeg and Im NOT going to install a programming ENV: just to build one programma

>>
$ sudo apt install ffmpeg
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
ffmpeg-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ffmpeg
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,816 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2,437 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 ffmpeg amd64 7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1 [1,816 kB]
Fetched 1,816 kB in 2s (992 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package ffmpeg.
(Reading database ... 342056 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../ffmpeg_7%3a5.1.6-0+deb12u1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ffmpeg (7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1) ...
Setting up ffmpeg (7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
metalloid@bugrupola:~
$ ffmpeg
ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so.59: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

<<

Who knows a fix apart from compilation?

#AskFediverse #ffmpeg #programming #Linux #KDE #MXLinux #iso #bash #tcsh #ksh #zsh #sh

This error in MX Linux KDE edition is now annoying

I cant work without ffmpeg and Im NOT going to install a programming ENV: just to build one programma

>>
$ sudo apt install ffmpeg
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
ffmpeg-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
ffmpeg
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,816 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2,437 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 ffmpeg amd64 7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1 [1,816 kB]
Fetched 1,816 kB in 2s (992 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package ffmpeg.
(Reading database ... 342056 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../ffmpeg_7%3a5.1.6-0+deb12u1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ffmpeg (7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1) ...
Setting up ffmpeg (7:5.1.6-0+deb12u1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
metalloid@bugrupola:~
$ ffmpeg
ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so.59: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

<<

Who knows a fix apart from compilation?

#AskFediverse #ffmpeg #programming #Linux #KDE #MXLinux #iso #bash #tcsh #ksh #zsh #sh

Look at the year 2K17 yet I still used DVD storage to boot ghostBSD!

.🖋️ #bash #freeBSD #ghostBSD #BSD #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tksh #fish #tcsh  #distro #KDE  #DVD #RetroComputing #retro #storage #POSIX  #fresh #programming

Look at the year 2K17 yet I still used DVD storage to boot ghostBSD!

.🖋️ #bash #freeBSD #ghostBSD #BSD #sh #zsh #ksh #csh #tksh #fish #tcsh  #distro #KDE  #DVD #RetroComputing #retro #storage #POSIX  #fresh #programming

@fbfortune @BRicker I thought #csh (and by extension, #tcsh) was Considered Harmful. https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/csh

#shell #Unix #Linux

@fbfortune @BRicker I thought #csh (and by extension, #tcsh) was Considered Harmful. https://harmful.cat-v.org/software/csh

#shell #Unix #Linux

Tired of asking a web LLM to generate aws-cli commands for you and copy+pasting the result into your shell?

I've written a shell command that does this for me, and I can't live without it now.

https://getabc.sh/

Ready for feedback and issues from early adopters.

#cli #bash #zsh #tcsh #linux #mac #aws

Tired of asking a web LLM to generate aws-cli commands for you and copy+pasting the result into your shell?

I've written a shell command that does this for me, and I can't live without it now.

https://getabc.sh/

Ready for feedback and issues from early adopters.

#cli #bash #zsh #tcsh #linux #mac #aws

🐚 TCSH, a shell for Fortune & Glory 🐚

Relevant blog post @ OpenSource.com

> "Why I still love tcsh after all these years. Bash may be more popular, but tcsh has advantages that make it more appealing..."

- https://opensource.com/article/20/8/tcsh

How about dot-files for my tcsh config, sure...
- https://codeberg.org/winterschon/dot-files/src/branch/main/.tcshrc

#freebsd #linux #sysadmin #engineering #terminal #shells #bash #tcsh #csh #modernSolutionsForModernProblems

🐚 TCSH, a shell for Fortune & Glory 🐚

Relevant blog post @ OpenSource.com

> "Why I still love tcsh after all these years. Bash may be more popular, but tcsh has advantages that make it more appealing..."

- https://opensource.com/article/20/8/tcsh

How about dot-files for my tcsh config, sure...
- https://codeberg.org/winterschon/dot-files/src/branch/main/.tcshrc

#freebsd #linux #sysadmin #engineering #terminal #shells #bash #tcsh #csh #modernSolutionsForModernProblems

@kenshirriff @b0rk Always default to enclosing file names and other argument strings to your #shell in 'single quotes' unless you want it mucked about with substituting $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLES or `command substitution` (which uses an entirely other kind of quote!)

"Double quotes" will honor the spaces but also tell your shell to look for variable and command expansion.

#Linux #Unix #bash #zsh #Zshell #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #FishShell

@kenshirriff @b0rk Always default to enclosing file names and other argument strings to your #shell in 'single quotes' unless you want it mucked about with substituting $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLES or `command substitution` (which uses an entirely other kind of quote!)

"Double quotes" will honor the spaces but also tell your shell to look for variable and command expansion.

#Linux #Unix #bash #zsh #Zshell #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #FishShell

@kenshirriff @b0rk Always default to enclosing file names and other argument strings to your #shell in 'single quotes' unless you want it mucked about with substituting $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLES or `command substitution` (which uses an entirely other kind of quote!)

"Double quotes" will honor the spaces but also tell your shell to look for variable and command expansion.

#Linux #Unix #bash #zsh #Zshell #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #FishShell

@kenshirriff @b0rk Always default to enclosing file names and other argument strings to your #shell in 'single quotes' unless you want it mucked about with substituting $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLES or `command substitution` (which uses an entirely other kind of quote!)

"Double quotes" will honor the spaces but also tell your shell to look for variable and command expansion.

#Linux #Unix #bash #zsh #Zshell #ksh #csh #tcsh #fish #FishShell

This guide shows you how to change your Linux shell, making the switch from(to) Bash, Fish, Zsh, or any other shell a breeze.
https://linuxiac.com/how-to-change-shell-in-linux/

#linux #shell #bash #fishshell #zsh #tcsh

This guide shows you how to change your Linux shell, making the switch from(to) Bash, Fish, Zsh, or any other shell a breeze.
https://linuxiac.com/how-to-change-shell-in-linux/

#linux #shell #bash #fishshell #zsh #tcsh

@ojs @OpenBSDAms A C-Shell is a traditional default shell in #BSD systems (#FreeBSD uses the #tcsh implementation). So, finding at least a default configuration isn't too surprising.

@ojs @OpenBSDAms A C-Shell is a traditional default shell in #BSD systems (#FreeBSD uses the #tcsh implementation). So, finding at least a default configuration isn't too surprising.

@hramrach @bagder if you think #bash is horrible (I assume you use #zsh and/or #fish - which then yes that is a valid argument) then please take a look at #ksh, #tcsh or the original #UNIX #sh and tell me that's readable.

Tangents aside: Bash, for better or worse, is the #standard for #Linux and since I want OS/1337 to be "self-reproducing" / "self-hosting" with as little dependencies as possible, I'm stuck with it.

@OS1337
#OS1337

@flomaraninchi

Oh, on est 2 à pas s'être décidés à migrer de #tcsh....?

Bon après si je pouvais scripter le velouté ce serait en #bash. C'est que pour la cuisine interactive que j'ai pas le courage de recoder mes p'tits raccourcis qui vont bien pour sortir la poêle en fonte ou éditer le réglage du four en #vi.

@flomaraninchi

Oh, on est 2 à pas s'être décidés à migrer de #tcsh....?

Bon après si je pouvais scripter le velouté ce serait en #bash. C'est que pour la cuisine interactive que j'ai pas le courage de recoder mes p'tits raccourcis qui vont bien pour sortir la poêle en fonte ou éditer le réglage du four en #vi.

@vermaden @[email protected] @stefano To be fair, this article is *very* old and targets some "original" #csh, not #tcsh (which certainly fixes many of the severe bugs).

Nevertheless, some strange behavior (like the inability to redirect stdout and stderr individually) persists.

@rwatt @malte No. If you want to use stock #FreeBSD RELEASE versions, use freebsd-update, it's the simplest way. Using source is only needed when you want to change build-time options (which I do, e.g. to leave out #sendmail, #tcsh, #ssh and a few other things from base).

TIL: there is a "foreach" keyword in #zsh, which is about exactly the same even with character counts as "for" (probably for #ksh or #tcsh or other shell compat?)